I don't know if I should believe this

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Marcia527
Marcia527 Member Posts: 2,729
edited March 2014 in Breast Cancer #1
Found this article on the BBC website:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6214655.stm
Housework cuts breast cancer risk

I'm tired of all these studys that say this or that. What! I did housework and still got breast cancer...didn't cut my risk! I got it so I guess that is 100%. I think they need to look at a lot of different other factors before saying something like this. Getting cancer is pretty complicated thing. You have to look at the whole picture not just how much housework was done.

Geez.

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  • meena1
    meena1 Member Posts: 1,003
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    yikes! Maybe some men made
    yikes! Maybe some men made this up so their wifes would clean the house. just ridiculous
  • chenheart
    chenheart Member Posts: 5,159
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    I am a healthy
    I am a healthy person....except for cancer. A non smoker,I maintain a healthy weight ( size 8-10) at age 60, do 5Ks and half marathons regularly, walk 5 miles 3X a week. I eat almost no red meat, LOVE salads , fish and veggies, I drink water by the ton~ and have moderate amounts but regular red wine. I read, belong to a book club, am not depressed, have a good attitude, am in a loving, supportive MARRIAGE ( whooo hhoo) to a man who is wildly crazy about me. I also did and still do housework. And yet, as you know, I am here because I not only HAD cancer, but because right now I am fighting mets.

    Which high risk category did I just fall into? Oh that's right...being a woman raised my risk and I think, just being alive!

    I'm with you Marcia, studies be damned!

    Hugs,
    Chen♥
  • ms.sunshine
    ms.sunshine Member Posts: 707 Member
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    chenheart said:

    I am a healthy
    I am a healthy person....except for cancer. A non smoker,I maintain a healthy weight ( size 8-10) at age 60, do 5Ks and half marathons regularly, walk 5 miles 3X a week. I eat almost no red meat, LOVE salads , fish and veggies, I drink water by the ton~ and have moderate amounts but regular red wine. I read, belong to a book club, am not depressed, have a good attitude, am in a loving, supportive MARRIAGE ( whooo hhoo) to a man who is wildly crazy about me. I also did and still do housework. And yet, as you know, I am here because I not only HAD cancer, but because right now I am fighting mets.

    Which high risk category did I just fall into? Oh that's right...being a woman raised my risk and I think, just being alive!

    I'm with you Marcia, studies be damned!

    Hugs,
    Chen♥

    Pure BS and that's my
    Pure BS and that's my thoughts on that study
  • Christmas Girl
    Christmas Girl Member Posts: 3,682 Member
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    No offense intended, Marcia...
    Am not even going to check out that link. Balderdash.

    BC is currently described - by the onc med pros - as "situational"... Or, "environmental"... (Those are interchangeable terms.) I was/still am ASSURED that BC is NOT a "lifestyle" cancer; i.e., we don't "give" it to ourselves by what we do or don't do.

    I repeat: balderdash.

    Kind regards, Susan
  • Hubby
    Hubby Member Posts: 325
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    Too Funny
    It almost sound like what teenage boys say to the girls- "Really, it helps clear up acne".
  • Marcia527
    Marcia527 Member Posts: 2,729
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    meena1 said:

    yikes! Maybe some men made
    yikes! Maybe some men made this up so their wifes would clean the house. just ridiculous

    That's what my husband said!
    That's what my husband said! He said to forget about it.
  • Marcia527
    Marcia527 Member Posts: 2,729
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    chenheart said:

    I am a healthy
    I am a healthy person....except for cancer. A non smoker,I maintain a healthy weight ( size 8-10) at age 60, do 5Ks and half marathons regularly, walk 5 miles 3X a week. I eat almost no red meat, LOVE salads , fish and veggies, I drink water by the ton~ and have moderate amounts but regular red wine. I read, belong to a book club, am not depressed, have a good attitude, am in a loving, supportive MARRIAGE ( whooo hhoo) to a man who is wildly crazy about me. I also did and still do housework. And yet, as you know, I am here because I not only HAD cancer, but because right now I am fighting mets.

    Which high risk category did I just fall into? Oh that's right...being a woman raised my risk and I think, just being alive!

    I'm with you Marcia, studies be damned!

    Hugs,
    Chen♥

    Yeah, being alive puts us at
    Yeah, being alive puts us at risk for almost everything. Do a study on that one, not!
  • Marcia527
    Marcia527 Member Posts: 2,729
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    No offense intended, Marcia...
    Am not even going to check out that link. Balderdash.

    BC is currently described - by the onc med pros - as "situational"... Or, "environmental"... (Those are interchangeable terms.) I was/still am ASSURED that BC is NOT a "lifestyle" cancer; i.e., we don't "give" it to ourselves by what we do or don't do.

    I repeat: balderdash.

    Kind regards, Susan

    I just put the link for
    I just put the link for anyone to read incase they thought I was making it up. Sounds like I was making a joke, which I tend to joke too much sometimes.
  • Marcia527
    Marcia527 Member Posts: 2,729
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    Hubby said:

    Too Funny
    It almost sound like what teenage boys say to the girls- "Really, it helps clear up acne".

    It just goes to show,
    It just goes to show, sometimes you have to cut the crap. I mean not believe everything you read. Some studys just aren't done properly to begin with. It's like they use to say about computers: garbage in, garbage out.
  • MyTurnNow
    MyTurnNow Member Posts: 2,686 Member
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    I agree with the statement
    I agree with the statement that this was someone's way to get their house cleaned. I have cleaned as a young person growing up and have always cleaned my house as an adult and guess what, I must be the exception because I got breast cancer.
  • Marcia527
    Marcia527 Member Posts: 2,729
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    Pure BS and that's my
    Pure BS and that's my thoughts on that study

    My son just got a BS and I
    My son just got a BS and I told him some people get BS and don't even go to college! (did I say that right or blow the punch line?) sigh
  • Marcia527
    Marcia527 Member Posts: 2,729
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    MyTurnNow said:

    I agree with the statement
    I agree with the statement that this was someone's way to get their house cleaned. I have cleaned as a young person growing up and have always cleaned my house as an adult and guess what, I must be the exception because I got breast cancer.

    Can you believe that they
    Can you believe that they followed 200,000 women for 6 years for this study? Someone worked for 6 years. Sometimes I think it's just a way to produce work for themselves. Hey lets start a study on stupid studys and give ourselves a paycheck!
  • chenheart
    chenheart Member Posts: 5,159
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    Hubby said:

    Too Funny
    It almost sound like what teenage boys say to the girls- "Really, it helps clear up acne".

    Good One, Hubby!
    Are you kidding me??? That wasn't true? OMG~ it cannot be! I can't believe that "those boys" were lying to me~my teenage acne cleared up by itself????? How utterly humiliating....

    Hugs,
    Claudia
  • Mama G
    Mama G Member Posts: 762
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    Marcia527 said:

    Can you believe that they
    Can you believe that they followed 200,000 women for 6 years for this study? Someone worked for 6 years. Sometimes I think it's just a way to produce work for themselves. Hey lets start a study on stupid studys and give ourselves a paycheck!

    I admit it, I suck at housecleaning...
    but I always put my family FIRST! If there was a ball game to attend, I was there, who cares about the house, it will still be there when I get home. Boy am I glad I did that now! You can't get those days back, but guess what! My house is still intact!
  • cindycflynn
    cindycflynn Member Posts: 1,132 Member
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    I agree
    that this is just silliness!

    I also hope my husband doesn't hear about it ;)!
  • greyhoundluvr
    greyhoundluvr Member Posts: 402
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    Geez
    At least now I understand! My daughter, even after grad school, has cleaned my house for extra money since she was a teenager. At least now I know that it wasn't all of those other 2000 things that they say can cause cancer. To think that all I had to do was get out the vacuum cleaner. I wish I had known this before surgery and chemo (she says facetiously) - I'm sure if I had started cleaning, it would have made it go away, too! You just have to wonder where they come up with these things.....
  • lynn1950
    lynn1950 Member Posts: 2,570
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    Hi Marcia, Thanks for
    Hi Marcia, Thanks for sharing the good laugh. xoxoxox Lynn
  • Wolfi
    Wolfi Member Posts: 425
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    Marcia,
    This is a good post

    Marcia,

    This is a good post and makes a great point: there seem to be too many "studies" out there that seem crazy.

    I don't know about all of you but I am SICK of hearing on the news about a new study to prevent bc or seeing an article about bc in EVERY magazine I open. Get a mammogram, drink more coffee, stop drinking coffee, drink wine (but not too much), buy a super duper and really expensive bra to avoid bc.

    I am all for younger women (under 40) getting mammograms for early detection and for the health care systems to start taking this seriously, but after already having bc I am just tired of hearing about it everywhere I turn. I want to scream at the TV news "I don't NEED a mammogram any more even though I am 42 - just shut up!"

    Sorry to vent - I woke up today in tremendous pain with swollen limbs and a bad headache.

    Wolfi
  • KayNYC
    KayNYC Member Posts: 495 Member
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    can't believe everything you read
    Thanks for sharing. I agree wholeheartedly with you. I have not opened the link and don't intend to. There are many studies, some good and some not so good. I always consider who are the investigators and their funding sources. Looks like this one had an agenda to get the ladies back into the home to do the housework. Clearly, there are poor studies, studies that lack rigorous and sound basis or measurement or limited by the statistics they used. Then there is sampling issues...are they representative of the whole population or skewed? The size of the study etc.
    If I believed all of the studies, I would be driving myself crazy trying to figure out why I got BC. I don't think we should be blaming ourselves for getting BC.
    I am married to the same great guy for 38 yrs, have breastfed my children,work full time, I am active, eat a healthy diet (no red meat,lowfat diet), never smoked, don't drink alcohol regularly, Do MY OWN HOUSEWORK, practice yoga,manage stress well,started yearly mammograms at age 30 yrs old etc.....By virtue of the fact that I am a female, 60 yrs old and exposed to environmental factors beyond my control as well as, possible genetic factors (unknown), I was diagnosed and treated for BC. Housework does not seem to be a deciding factor for anyone I have ever heard of. Thanks for an opportunity to vent. Hmmm that felt good,now I need to go clean my apartment!
    Hugs, K
  • GregStahl
    GregStahl Member Posts: 188
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    Just tax dollars
    hard at work for the common good....LOL.
    This ranks up there with the US govt giving a $2 million dollar grant to study pig feed lots and if they stink or not. They could have bought me a tank of gas so I could drive to one, 2 sniffs and I will have your answer for just $35. The govt could give the rest of the $2M to REAL cancer research!!!!