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Apricot Seeds....

tgarris3
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Has anyone heard about apricot seeds fighting cancer???? I have a neighbor that swears it helped with her lymphoma and she read it has helped attack the colon cancer cells??? But the Oncol.. said it is a rumor..Just some input!

John23
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They once reported that Coca Cola killed the aids virus.
And of course, it really did...... in the test-tube. Drinking gallons
of soda wasn't going to do a thing; and everything, including the air,
can kill the aids virus...

With cancer. and thanks to the real fear of dying, there are
brazillions of "remedies" out there. Some that might have some
merit, and others telling us to ingest the undigestible.

The fact is, that there are certain percentages of cancer victims
that will survive after surgery, even if they do nothing at all.
Try to keep that fact in mind, regardless if it's chemo or apricot
seeds, or peach dander.

But of course, there really are good alternatives to chemotherapy and
radiation that will indeed actually kill cancer cells.

The big problem, is trying to figure out what is, and what ain't.

Apricot pits are on my "ain't list".

A science that's thousands of years old and continues to be practiced
in this day and age, in hospitals of other countries, isn't on my "ain't list".

But aside from that, anything that can improve your immune system's
response and ability to attack what doesn't belong, is an absolutely
good thing. If it doesn't have any side effects and can improve your
health, how can it be bad?

Can an alternative kill cancer cells directly? Some can, some can't.
Some only help your immune system do it's job better.....

And some times, that's really all it takes!

Read, read and read, and always, always, always question what
you read. When your inner instincts tell you it's right, it's usually right.

And if it sounds like a scam, it usually is.

Better health by tomorrow, or else.

John

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msccolon
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I know somebody who swears by them as well. It's the laetril that's supposed to be contained within the bitter apricot kernels. Since I've tried just about everything, I tried these as well! I did have a recurrence while taking them, so they certainly didn't appear to have done anything positive for me! The friend who swears by them and has been taking them for years has prostate cancer.
mary

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RickMurtagh
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My son's ex-girlfriend gave me a bag (she was a nutrition major in school). They do have some good things about them, but it seems more in a general health way. They, at least the ones I ate, where not bitter at all, kind of sweet in fact and a bit chewy. Mine where Organic Hunza Apricot Kernels.

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PhillieG
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I remember when that came out in the 70's as the miracle cure for cancer.
I think that was before shark cartilage came out as the next miracle cure. The theory was that sharks don't get cancer. They also don't get athlete's foot. Can they cure that too?

I've been hanging apricot pits from my rear view mirror to prevent running into an elephant while driving. It's worked, I haven't hit an elephant in over 35 years!

A rule to follow:
If ANYONE offers a guaranteed miracle cure for cancer, run the other way. There are no guarantees in life except that one day we will all die from something. You can increase or decrease your life expectancy with choices we each make in life and in dealing with disease.

John23
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Re:
"I've been hanging apricot pits from my rear view mirror to
prevent running into an elephant while driving. It's worked,
I haven't hit an elephant in over 35 years!"

Phil, this is an international forum that finds it's way into pretty remote
areas of the world!

I hope you realize that thanks to your post, there are probably 2000
Zhihuwandi tribe members with apricot pits hanging from their earlobes!

(do you sell those things? can I order some?)

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PhillieG
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I DO sell them along with the heart/butt shaped flowers that are encased in Lucite.
Maybe I can get KarenLaw to help me peddle them!
;-)

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PhillieG
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I was listening to a radio show where they were discussing aspirin. One guy brought up the question "what if aspirin was trying to get FDA approval now?"
The point was that it would take YEARS for it to get approved if it was done at all.

One thing many of us do not have is the luxury of plenty of time to wait....

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sharpy102
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Yup...they have it as B17 as well as laetril, amygdalin( is the same name)...I believe in it...but it also depends on one is in what stage at....

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PGLGreg
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Laetrile is a quack remedy. The Quackwatch article, The Rise and Fall of Laetrile traces its use for cancer back to 1892.

--Greg

John23
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QUACKWATCH.ORG
Registrant Name:Stephen Barrett
Registrant Organization:Stephen Barrett, MD
"Stephen Barrett, MD" owns about 35 other domains and a contact on the whois record of 39 domains

To wit:

Is Stephen Barrett a Quack?

Failed MD Stephen Barrett
the url is: http://www.quack pot watch.org/quackpots/quackpots/barrett.htm (remove the spaces)

Dr. Stephen Barrett of Quackwatch Exposed In Court Cases

Defeat for the Quackbusters - court orders against Quackbusters

There are more, but it gets boring.

Know those that claim, as well as those that disclaim.

(It's a tough, cruel world out there!)

John

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PGLGreg
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John: "Know those that claim, as well as those that disclaim."

It is not so much a matter of reputation and character assassination as it is of evidence and analysis. Barrett does give references for a number of his factual assertions at the end of his article.

--Greg

John23
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I remember as a juror, being instructed that if a witness is found
to be lying about one thing, everything that witness says, can
be disregarded.

It's actually instinctual common sense at it's best.

This "Stephen Barrett, MD" has been proven to be disingenuous
at best, and a liar at least.

The facts about "Stephen Barrett, MD" should be more than enough
to cause serious doubt regarding anything he has had to say.

There are a whole ton of pixles out there, with serious data
about the alternatives. It takes a lot to filter through it all, but
one has to do what's best to do, and that includes closely
examining chemotherapy's value.

I read about "Stephen Barrett, MD" a long, long time ago, well
before I knew about TCM, and while still using western medicine.

I was trying to help my wife find new medicines for her RA,
and using sites like "quackwatch" to filter out scam garbage.

I learned rather quickly about "Stephen Barrett, MD" and his
history; dropping out of medicine and starting web sites to
attack alternatives. He gives seminars and talks and charges
well for that. He doesn't mention that he was forced out of
practice, however....

Live, learn, and vomit.

Take care!

John

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PGLGreg
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Scientists' proposals are not subject to judgment by a jury. Scientific theories are not subject to human-made laws and your experience as a juror is irrelevant. You're just in the wrong ballpark. Scientists need not be persons of good character -- the correctness of what they say is not judged by their reputation.

John23
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"Stephen Barrett, MD" isn't a "scientist", never had an education
regarding the various fields of expertise he claimed to provide
a legal opinion for, etc etc.... ad infinitum..

I'd choose another individual, if I were trying to substantiate
my opinion against "alternative medicine".

If it walks like a duck and QUACKS like a duck....
(just sayin')

Stay well!

John

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PhillieG
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I like to check out domain names too at times. It can tell you a lot about the "source". Some people at times think that since it's on the internet it must be true. ANYBODY can make an website and make things look believable.

Mathtutor234
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Hi,
Years ago I heard a joke about eating apricot pits as a cure to depression. The punch line was, 'Apricot seeds have cyanide in them'. I don't know if they really do or if it was just a dumb joke. But I sure wouldn't eat a lot of them before investigating further.
Thanks.

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sharpy102
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that's true...and that's exactly why "B17" "Laetril" "Amygdalin" they say supposed to work for cancer cells. Because they are in a way that the cyanide group is tied to a sugar molecule. Cancer cells needs sugar to grow (so does others) but cancer cells have a unique enzyme that healthy cells don't, and with that enzyme they can cleave off the cyanide group and as it gets released it kills the cancer cells. Healthy cells cannot cut this sugar molecule, so cyanide will not get released...but that's all I know about this...

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