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chetra
chetra Member Posts: 17
edited March 2014 in Breast Cancer #1
This has been a very hard day for me,the pain and just over all ill feeling. And I have had 3 concern callers today. WHY when someone calls and your day is not so good do you always here.Oh you got to be strong-or-tomarrow will be better-or-your toughGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Im sorry but everyday I feel like Im acting to make everyone else feel better about me. I would just like one of my friends or family members to really listen to me. My fears my pain my feelings. Oh I have ask but the subject always ends up the same way.
Thanks for letting me vent

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  • celinelvr
    celinelvr Member Posts: 30
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    chetra
    Sorry to hear you are having a bad day chetra. I hate to hear those stupid words too. My least favorite is when they say , "You are so strong. You will get through this." I only have one good friend in another state who calls on me to see how I am, and I have a BIG family and not one of them have called - ever! You are fortunate to have 3 on one day. You should tell one of them what you told us, That you really need someone to REALLY listen. Listen to your pain, fears and feelings. Meanwhile we are here 4 U dear, 24/7.
    Milly
  • tami90650
    tami90650 Member Posts: 82
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    hi chetra
    Hi Chetra, I hear ya and I do recall that same feeling youve got now, but people who have not been through something like this dont understand. They obviously LOVE you or they wouldnt be calling. But for them to truely listen means they would have to comprehend how you feel and that might be too much for them. Tell us all about it and how you feel and how your doing. We understand totally and love to hear from you.
    One day, down the road and all in time, you will be able to be that ear for someone who is walking the path youve made it through. love ya tami
  • peggy65
    peggy65 Member Posts: 100
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    oh my goodness, do i
    oh my goodness, do i remember those days. you sound like you really don't feel well and you are sick of people giving you advice to feeling better. when that happened to me i used to feel guilty and think yeah, get with the program, peggy. but now i have discovered that i will own the way that i feel and if someone else doesn't agree with that, it doesn't matter. you know that friends and family care about you and want you to feel better as you do but sometimes people just have to be present with a cancer patient and keep their mouths quiet. people who have not had cancer don't have any idea how you feel. i remember when i did not feel well, i would be down in the dumps and it would be construed as i was giving up. i wasn't giving up i was sick. now that i am finished with treatment people always say to me you look fabulous! well often i don't feel fabulous but am sick of trying to explain the cancer journey. people who care about you only want you to feel better and have all sorts of advice for you. remember when you married or had children, don't know if you did or didn't, anyway everyone had advice and opinions for you. i feel now that i am coming out the other side, i will spend some time educating people about breast cancer. it is very complicated. stay in touch. blessings, peggy
  • seof
    seof Member Posts: 819 Member
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    It is OK to feel whatever
    It is OK to feel whatever you feel right now. Maybe it would help to tell those who love you but don't know how to express it in a useful way that you know you will get better, but right now you just need someone to be quiet and listen. You need to know that they can allow you to be who you are now, not just who you will be. If they cannot do that, you might ask them to write or email instead of calling. That way you have control over when and how you respond. In a letter the person is not right there "in your face" as it were. There is time to respond when you feel better. Maybe give them other ideas on how they can help. For example, you could give them a list of books or movies you like and they could send them or bring them by and watch a movie with you, or you could ask them to make a specific meal for you and bring it by, or ask them to send a music CD, or craft supplies, if you like that sort of thing. Or, if you have pets or family, they could come help take care of them, or send you coupons or gift cards...whatever you can think of that they can do that will be a real help to you. I think people often say things like that because they want to help but don't know how.

    Take care of yourself, seof
  • Ltalcott
    Ltalcott Member Posts: 119
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    Not yet
    I haven't experienced this yet, but as the matriach of the family, I know it's coming.

    Every Christmas, my children come home, and the house swells from 2 up to 8-16, depending on how many in-laws and aunts and uncles come for various meals. I get lots of help, but when the weather is bad, allergies flare up or everyone gets a cold--I never get anything. Or at least no one knows about it if I do. When everyone finally leaves, I stop pretending. It's depressing when the holiday excitement ends, and the big let-down. And then I pamper myself, get the cold, stay in bed late, or go to bed early.

    I don't think I'm going to pretend through this--but not sure how people will accept me not feeling well.

    Guess we'll just have to see.

    Lisa
  • chili
    chili Member Posts: 32
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    Let it all out
    Sometimes you just have to let it all out - I think I tend to be very upbeat and when I just sit and cry my family isn't quite sure how to deal with it. Sometimes I just want to be alone and they respect that. Sometimes I just need a hug. Hopefully once you explain your needs they will respond. We don't need to be holding things in at this point - we need to heal. This is a great place to vent and let your feelings out. God bless you.
  • bfbear
    bfbear Member Posts: 380
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    Take care of you
    Hi Chetra,
    I haven't gotten to that place yet either, since I'm still waiting for surgery, but I already get the "you-are-so-strong" "be tough" blah, blah, blah, and it seems like there is a huge amount of pressure to act the way other people want to see you. Few people really want to know what you're feeling because it might scare them.

    Actually, the only people I've talked to who absolutely "get it" are other survivors. Everyone else is clueless....well-meaning and full of love, but clueless just the same. I think that's why I've pretty much isolated myself from anyone I don't absolutely have to deal with. I get overwhelmed by people anyway, and since the dx it's been worse.

    One thing I did to help cope was start an email list, right after my dx, where I told everyone what was going on, explained that as much as I loved everyone and understood their concern for me, I didn't have the energy or wish to be on the phone constantly. I told them I would keep them updated about what was going on, and if there was something they could do I'd let them know. I call it, "Keeping You Abreast of the Situation..." (humor helps, when you can manage it). People have pretty much just emailed and respected my wishes. I have bared all the details and information possible, and everyone seems to appreciate it. The few people who I don't mind talking to are also people to whom I can be honest and say I'm too tired or sick or whatever.

    And I agree with others here that encourage us to give concerned friends something specific to do in the way of meals, beverages, errands, etc. I'm thinking about telling everyone on my e-list to send one yard of brightly colored ribbon, that I will tie on the branches of a tree in my yard and call it The Healing Tree...and when I look at it, I will know that there are many people who care about me and want me to get better. It's something easy for friends and relatives to do, and it's something I will enjoy looking at. And if I'm too sick to tie the ribbons on, I'll ask some other want-to-do-gooder to do it.

    Sooooooo...I know this doesn't help you physically feel better, but at least it was something to read! I do hope you feel a little better today. There are so many wonderful women here who care about you. Feel whatever you want to feel, and try to ask for whatever it is you need that will help you.

    I'm getting the feeling, in reading all the posts here, that all of us are the type that are used to taking care of everyone else and not ourselves. I certainly know that's true for me, and that this is turning out to be one hell of a lesson that's going to get harder before it gets easier. I'm so glad all of you are here to help us feel like we're OK no matter what we're feeling.
  • EveningStar2
    EveningStar2 Member Posts: 491 Member
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    Ltalcott said:

    Not yet
    I haven't experienced this yet, but as the matriach of the family, I know it's coming.

    Every Christmas, my children come home, and the house swells from 2 up to 8-16, depending on how many in-laws and aunts and uncles come for various meals. I get lots of help, but when the weather is bad, allergies flare up or everyone gets a cold--I never get anything. Or at least no one knows about it if I do. When everyone finally leaves, I stop pretending. It's depressing when the holiday excitement ends, and the big let-down. And then I pamper myself, get the cold, stay in bed late, or go to bed early.

    I don't think I'm going to pretend through this--but not sure how people will accept me not feeling well.

    Guess we'll just have to see.

    Lisa

    Maybe
    Its time that you provide the house and the most promising child provide the organization and *everyone* can provide the labor while you enjoy. One problem with that is that they will not do it "your" way and you would need to let it go if you take that option.

    Maureen
  • tasha_111
    tasha_111 Member Posts: 2,072
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    bfbear said:

    Take care of you
    Hi Chetra,
    I haven't gotten to that place yet either, since I'm still waiting for surgery, but I already get the "you-are-so-strong" "be tough" blah, blah, blah, and it seems like there is a huge amount of pressure to act the way other people want to see you. Few people really want to know what you're feeling because it might scare them.

    Actually, the only people I've talked to who absolutely "get it" are other survivors. Everyone else is clueless....well-meaning and full of love, but clueless just the same. I think that's why I've pretty much isolated myself from anyone I don't absolutely have to deal with. I get overwhelmed by people anyway, and since the dx it's been worse.

    One thing I did to help cope was start an email list, right after my dx, where I told everyone what was going on, explained that as much as I loved everyone and understood their concern for me, I didn't have the energy or wish to be on the phone constantly. I told them I would keep them updated about what was going on, and if there was something they could do I'd let them know. I call it, "Keeping You Abreast of the Situation..." (humor helps, when you can manage it). People have pretty much just emailed and respected my wishes. I have bared all the details and information possible, and everyone seems to appreciate it. The few people who I don't mind talking to are also people to whom I can be honest and say I'm too tired or sick or whatever.

    And I agree with others here that encourage us to give concerned friends something specific to do in the way of meals, beverages, errands, etc. I'm thinking about telling everyone on my e-list to send one yard of brightly colored ribbon, that I will tie on the branches of a tree in my yard and call it The Healing Tree...and when I look at it, I will know that there are many people who care about me and want me to get better. It's something easy for friends and relatives to do, and it's something I will enjoy looking at. And if I'm too sick to tie the ribbons on, I'll ask some other want-to-do-gooder to do it.

    Sooooooo...I know this doesn't help you physically feel better, but at least it was something to read! I do hope you feel a little better today. There are so many wonderful women here who care about you. Feel whatever you want to feel, and try to ask for whatever it is you need that will help you.

    I'm getting the feeling, in reading all the posts here, that all of us are the type that are used to taking care of everyone else and not ourselves. I certainly know that's true for me, and that this is turning out to be one hell of a lesson that's going to get harder before it gets easier. I'm so glad all of you are here to help us feel like we're OK no matter what we're feeling.

    Be Strong
    We are so proud of you....Be strong, I couldn't have done it......

    I tell you, the next person to come up with that drivel will be kicked........AND HARD!

    Let's do a Criss-Cross........ you shoot mine, I'll shoot yours , nobody will ever know........ Hugs J XXXXXXXX
  • Noel
    Noel Member Posts: 3,095 Member
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    How familiar that sounds
    I also have friends and family calling all of the time to see how I am or wanting to come out or bringing us food, flowers, movies, lots of stuff. I know it is so sweet and kind of them, but, I really just want to kind of "just be left alone" right now. Maybe when I am thru with radiation and I have some energy and know that I am done with treatment..I will feel better and different. I am sure I will, IF the tamoxifen doesn't knock me down too. If it does..I will just stop the stupid crap. People mean well Chetra..you know they do. They just don't get it though, and, they won't until if or when they would go thru this. I keep reminding myself of that...they just don't understand and they can't. The main comment I get sick of is " OMG you look great!" grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
  • chetra
    chetra Member Posts: 17
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    Thanks so Much
    You ladies are so wonderful. Each post really does help. Your right I am the one that has always taken care of everything and everybody. Before being dx again I started a Relay for Life team are Relay is in June. And the night I posted I had worked all day on a bake sale. Made 4 loaves of bread,6 dozen hot rolls and 3 peach cobblers. Guess I was overly tired too.
    But I am going to practice some of the advice given to me. Just someday I get overwelmed with not so good thought running through my head. I know I shouldnt and thinking positive is what you need to do. But I am so scared of loosing this battle and I just need to talk about it and ppl just want to hear the good. So all thank you again sooooooo much. Your right survivors understand.