Carol (CAMUL) .. How are You doing ??

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VickiSam
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We are thinking about you ...  Please check in when possible.

Gentle hugs,

Vicki Sam

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  • New Flower
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    Carol thinking of you

    Hi Carol,

    You are on my mind often, sorry I do not write to you. Seems like Halaven is tough for me. Hugs

  • aisling8
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    Carol thinking of you

    Hi Carol,

    You are on my mind often, sorry I do not write to you. Seems like Halaven is tough for me. Hugs

    Yes, thinking about you

    Maybe you're off fishing with your boys? Though it might be too soon and still cold.

    Just check in when you can. We worry:)

    xoxo

    Victoria

  • Double Whammy
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    aisling8 said:

    Yes, thinking about you

    Maybe you're off fishing with your boys? Though it might be too soon and still cold.

    Just check in when you can. We worry:)

    xoxo

    Victoria

    Where are you, Carol?

    What's going on?

    Suzanne

  • VickiSam
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    Where are you, Carol?

    What's going on?

    Suzanne

    Ladies .. I am a little worried!

    Carol ... come out, come out ....

     

    Vicki Sam

  • camul
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    Am I black mailed?  Looks like this may work.  I was in E.R. a couple of weeks ago. Whole body cramping from abdomen thru chest.  They ran some tests. Said no clot s, heart good but have an infection.  No UTI, no sore throat...  Let me go home in am.  Went to dentist for scheduled appt.  New dentist, I was still filling out medical questions.  He did an xray. Thought I had a toothache.  

    It was an infection.  His first comment was.."were you on phosphates?"  Your jaw has necrosis.  I need to pull a tooth where I had a root canal and the cap dropped out.  From the effects of Xgeva, which was stopped when my jaw started hurting in March 2013,  my jaw bone has died and is soft.  Most of my teeth are loose and hurt when I chew.  He talked to my onco.  He said when he pulls what is left of the tooth and the posts from the root canal, there use a 50/50 chance that my jaw could crumble or fracture.  I just finished an antibiotic and have an appointment at the University Hospital dental school for Friday.  Then if it cracks or crumbles he will had medical staff nearby!

    I saw my onco few days later, he said the tooth needs to come out.  I risk a bone and/or blood infection if I do nothing.  I have no dental insurance. Asked if they graft w/bone if that happens.  He said they can't use my bone from rib etc. Bcuz of the tumors.  So, I may postpone the appointment for another couple of weeks and see my own dentist.  The one I saw teaches at the dental school.

    At onco appointment, everything was the same except that my tumor.markers are.going in the wrong direction.  I am back  in the 30's and climbing, but still slower than if not on Aromason.  All-in-all, not such a good month.  Did the sleep study.  I have not heard back and it is over 2 weeks out.  Onco read the scan results and said I stopped 18 times in 2 1/2 hours when my oxygen levels dropped.  They put me on oxygen after 2 1/2 hours and I didn't stop once, and my levels stayed steady at 98/99 %.  He said cpap machine not necessary!  So I am cxl the next visit.  Medicare required the test to keep me on the oxygen.

    I didn't post as I was a bit down.  I just hate going to Dr. Appts.  I knew when he said stable 2 month as ago (from the Month b4), that it was no longer right as I could feel new lumps in right arm and left leg, and now one by left elbow.  But he was so excited that I didn't show him til last month.  He felt it and said not fatty tumors, but soft tissue tumors.. they cleared on chemo in back and torso while on chemo.

    It has been 2 years now since chemo and everything was stopped.  He said I am now seeing the fallout from the treatments.  Ie.  Bladder lining w/burned and damaged veins, diverticulitis, both from rad s to pelvic.  Necrosis in right hip and jaw, from the Xgeva, and the neuropathy from chemo.  

    I knew there would be some fallout from rads and chemo, he said I am his first patient with jaw necrosis that is causing real issues.  I asked if this is bcuz I lived longer than expected, his wanderer e was they really didn't know what the long-term effects of the Xgeva could be, and people with aggressive cancers are living longer bcuz of these new treatments, and they are starting to see the effects.

    SO! I am very fortunate to have been given the drugs as I am still here, therefore, my new task at hand is learning how to live with the fallout, and at the same time establishing quality of life (less pain and still be mentally present), controlling the stress that goes with constant pain, as well as the bills that accompany 5 years of aggressive, continual, treatment.  He said he is beginning to see these issues more and more, and the financial distress mainly on single females who had good jobs while working (bcuz SSDI and work disability ins. Tends to be higher than the cutoffs for any kind of financial assistance or programs.  Most males will remarry if they are widowed or divorced tend to remarry and have primary insurance rather than SSDI.  Usually primary ins covers better than SSDI.  

    So.  I am working really hard at trying to stay positive and do what I can on good days!  My pain Dr. asked me if I found.my new normal.  I LAUGHED and said, there is no normal at this point.  The most normal thing I know is that if I do something at all physical today, I will most likely be too sore to move for the next 2 days, so it is really important when I make a commitment that it is something I really want to do!  

    She smiled and said it is not going to get better, so this is my new normal! I just smiled!  I think I figured that out already!

    Hope everyone is doing well!  Hope this goes thru!   have not been able to post!

    VICTORIA,  In my onco office!  A man made the birds origami, like yours, but the first 12 on each one was done with foiled papers!  Then an additional 10 smaller out of paper, and 4 smaller again.  He has them in a circle 3 deep and almost to the floor.  There are 3 circles of wire with the birds on each from there to the top there is another circle of heavy wire (almost like a hanger wire), the crystals strung through the top.  He put a Edison lightbulb in a mason jar in the middle of the foiled paper part.  IT is beautiful!  He called it 1000 hours of hope! It was part of his estate.  He beat the cancer and died in his late 80's of natural causes...  Made me think of you when I saw it.  There were exactly1000 birds on it. It throws a beautiful light thru the reception room at the office.

    Hugs,

    Carol

  • GlowMore
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    camul said:

    can't send messages

    Am I black mailed?  Looks like this may work.  I was in E.R. a couple of weeks ago. Whole body cramping from abdomen thru chest.  They ran some tests. Said no clot s, heart good but have an infection.  No UTI, no sore throat...  Let me go home in am.  Went to dentist for scheduled appt.  New dentist, I was still filling out medical questions.  He did an xray. Thought I had a toothache.  

    It was an infection.  His first comment was.."were you on phosphates?"  Your jaw has necrosis.  I need to pull a tooth where I had a root canal and the cap dropped out.  From the effects of Xgeva, which was stopped when my jaw started hurting in March 2013,  my jaw bone has died and is soft.  Most of my teeth are loose and hurt when I chew.  He talked to my onco.  He said when he pulls what is left of the tooth and the posts from the root canal, there use a 50/50 chance that my jaw could crumble or fracture.  I just finished an antibiotic and have an appointment at the University Hospital dental school for Friday.  Then if it cracks or crumbles he will had medical staff nearby!

    I saw my onco few days later, he said the tooth needs to come out.  I risk a bone and/or blood infection if I do nothing.  I have no dental insurance. Asked if they graft w/bone if that happens.  He said they can't use my bone from rib etc. Bcuz of the tumors.  So, I may postpone the appointment for another couple of weeks and see my own dentist.  The one I saw teaches at the dental school.

    At onco appointment, everything was the same except that my tumor.markers are.going in the wrong direction.  I am back  in the 30's and climbing, but still slower than if not on Aromason.  All-in-all, not such a good month.  Did the sleep study.  I have not heard back and it is over 2 weeks out.  Onco read the scan results and said I stopped 18 times in 2 1/2 hours when my oxygen levels dropped.  They put me on oxygen after 2 1/2 hours and I didn't stop once, and my levels stayed steady at 98/99 %.  He said cpap machine not necessary!  So I am cxl the next visit.  Medicare required the test to keep me on the oxygen.

    I didn't post as I was a bit down.  I just hate going to Dr. Appts.  I knew when he said stable 2 month as ago (from the Month b4), that it was no longer right as I could feel new lumps in right arm and left leg, and now one by left elbow.  But he was so excited that I didn't show him til last month.  He felt it and said not fatty tumors, but soft tissue tumors.. they cleared on chemo in back and torso while on chemo.

    It has been 2 years now since chemo and everything was stopped.  He said I am now seeing the fallout from the treatments.  Ie.  Bladder lining w/burned and damaged veins, diverticulitis, both from rad s to pelvic.  Necrosis in right hip and jaw, from the Xgeva, and the neuropathy from chemo.  

    I knew there would be some fallout from rads and chemo, he said I am his first patient with jaw necrosis that is causing real issues.  I asked if this is bcuz I lived longer than expected, his wanderer e was they really didn't know what the long-term effects of the Xgeva could be, and people with aggressive cancers are living longer bcuz of these new treatments, and they are starting to see the effects.

    SO! I am very fortunate to have been given the drugs as I am still here, therefore, my new task at hand is learning how to live with the fallout, and at the same time establishing quality of life (less pain and still be mentally present), controlling the stress that goes with constant pain, as well as the bills that accompany 5 years of aggressive, continual, treatment.  He said he is beginning to see these issues more and more, and the financial distress mainly on single females who had good jobs while working (bcuz SSDI and work disability ins. Tends to be higher than the cutoffs for any kind of financial assistance or programs.  Most males will remarry if they are widowed or divorced tend to remarry and have primary insurance rather than SSDI.  Usually primary ins covers better than SSDI.  

    So.  I am working really hard at trying to stay positive and do what I can on good days!  My pain Dr. asked me if I found.my new normal.  I LAUGHED and said, there is no normal at this point.  The most normal thing I know is that if I do something at all physical today, I will most likely be too sore to move for the next 2 days, so it is really important when I make a commitment that it is something I really want to do!  

    She smiled and said it is not going to get better, so this is my new normal! I just smiled!  I think I figured that out already!

    Hope everyone is doing well!  Hope this goes thru!   have not been able to post!

    VICTORIA,  In my onco office!  A man made the birds origami, like yours, but the first 12 on each one was done with foiled papers!  Then an additional 10 smaller out of paper, and 4 smaller again.  He has them in a circle 3 deep and almost to the floor.  There are 3 circles of wire with the birds on each from there to the top there is another circle of heavy wire (almost like a hanger wire), the crystals strung through the top.  He put a Edison lightbulb in a mason jar in the middle of the foiled paper part.  IT is beautiful!  He called it 1000 hours of hope! It was part of his estate.  He beat the cancer and died in his late 80's of natural causes...  Made me think of you when I saw it.  There were exactly1000 birds on it. It throws a beautiful light thru the reception room at the office.

    Hugs,

    Carol

    You are...

    You Carol are ONE FANTASTIC WOMAN.........  I feel humbled and proud to be on the same board with you. 

    Prayers ..  and Love  ..  Glo

  • Jean 0609
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    camul said:

    can't send messages

    Am I black mailed?  Looks like this may work.  I was in E.R. a couple of weeks ago. Whole body cramping from abdomen thru chest.  They ran some tests. Said no clot s, heart good but have an infection.  No UTI, no sore throat...  Let me go home in am.  Went to dentist for scheduled appt.  New dentist, I was still filling out medical questions.  He did an xray. Thought I had a toothache.  

    It was an infection.  His first comment was.."were you on phosphates?"  Your jaw has necrosis.  I need to pull a tooth where I had a root canal and the cap dropped out.  From the effects of Xgeva, which was stopped when my jaw started hurting in March 2013,  my jaw bone has died and is soft.  Most of my teeth are loose and hurt when I chew.  He talked to my onco.  He said when he pulls what is left of the tooth and the posts from the root canal, there use a 50/50 chance that my jaw could crumble or fracture.  I just finished an antibiotic and have an appointment at the University Hospital dental school for Friday.  Then if it cracks or crumbles he will had medical staff nearby!

    I saw my onco few days later, he said the tooth needs to come out.  I risk a bone and/or blood infection if I do nothing.  I have no dental insurance. Asked if they graft w/bone if that happens.  He said they can't use my bone from rib etc. Bcuz of the tumors.  So, I may postpone the appointment for another couple of weeks and see my own dentist.  The one I saw teaches at the dental school.

    At onco appointment, everything was the same except that my tumor.markers are.going in the wrong direction.  I am back  in the 30's and climbing, but still slower than if not on Aromason.  All-in-all, not such a good month.  Did the sleep study.  I have not heard back and it is over 2 weeks out.  Onco read the scan results and said I stopped 18 times in 2 1/2 hours when my oxygen levels dropped.  They put me on oxygen after 2 1/2 hours and I didn't stop once, and my levels stayed steady at 98/99 %.  He said cpap machine not necessary!  So I am cxl the next visit.  Medicare required the test to keep me on the oxygen.

    I didn't post as I was a bit down.  I just hate going to Dr. Appts.  I knew when he said stable 2 month as ago (from the Month b4), that it was no longer right as I could feel new lumps in right arm and left leg, and now one by left elbow.  But he was so excited that I didn't show him til last month.  He felt it and said not fatty tumors, but soft tissue tumors.. they cleared on chemo in back and torso while on chemo.

    It has been 2 years now since chemo and everything was stopped.  He said I am now seeing the fallout from the treatments.  Ie.  Bladder lining w/burned and damaged veins, diverticulitis, both from rad s to pelvic.  Necrosis in right hip and jaw, from the Xgeva, and the neuropathy from chemo.  

    I knew there would be some fallout from rads and chemo, he said I am his first patient with jaw necrosis that is causing real issues.  I asked if this is bcuz I lived longer than expected, his wanderer e was they really didn't know what the long-term effects of the Xgeva could be, and people with aggressive cancers are living longer bcuz of these new treatments, and they are starting to see the effects.

    SO! I am very fortunate to have been given the drugs as I am still here, therefore, my new task at hand is learning how to live with the fallout, and at the same time establishing quality of life (less pain and still be mentally present), controlling the stress that goes with constant pain, as well as the bills that accompany 5 years of aggressive, continual, treatment.  He said he is beginning to see these issues more and more, and the financial distress mainly on single females who had good jobs while working (bcuz SSDI and work disability ins. Tends to be higher than the cutoffs for any kind of financial assistance or programs.  Most males will remarry if they are widowed or divorced tend to remarry and have primary insurance rather than SSDI.  Usually primary ins covers better than SSDI.  

    So.  I am working really hard at trying to stay positive and do what I can on good days!  My pain Dr. asked me if I found.my new normal.  I LAUGHED and said, there is no normal at this point.  The most normal thing I know is that if I do something at all physical today, I will most likely be too sore to move for the next 2 days, so it is really important when I make a commitment that it is something I really want to do!  

    She smiled and said it is not going to get better, so this is my new normal! I just smiled!  I think I figured that out already!

    Hope everyone is doing well!  Hope this goes thru!   have not been able to post!

    VICTORIA,  In my onco office!  A man made the birds origami, like yours, but the first 12 on each one was done with foiled papers!  Then an additional 10 smaller out of paper, and 4 smaller again.  He has them in a circle 3 deep and almost to the floor.  There are 3 circles of wire with the birds on each from there to the top there is another circle of heavy wire (almost like a hanger wire), the crystals strung through the top.  He put a Edison lightbulb in a mason jar in the middle of the foiled paper part.  IT is beautiful!  He called it 1000 hours of hope! It was part of his estate.  He beat the cancer and died in his late 80's of natural causes...  Made me think of you when I saw it.  There were exactly1000 birds on it. It throws a beautiful light thru the reception room at the office.

    Hugs,

    Carol

    Hugs!

    Sending big hugs and kisses!  Think about you often.

     

    xoxo,

    Jean

  • New Flower
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    Jean 0609 said:

    Hugs!

    Sending big hugs and kisses!  Think about you often.

     

    xoxo,

    Jean

    Carol thank you for sharing

    Carol,

    I am feeling your pain . It has been a very tough fight for you. You are my inspiration to any obstacles in life.

    I admire you courage and willpower and looking forward to see you again.

    hugs

     

  • aisling8
    aisling8 Member Posts: 1,627 Member
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    wow

    Oh my, Carol, reading what's going on with you, it's so much and sounds overwhelming. It makes me want to come to your house and make you some soup, not that I know how to make good soup, but something comforting, something -- oh, wait, that would be a margarita:)

    You've outlived the studies and here you are with real needs and real problems and nothing's easy. I hate that money and insurance get thrown into the mix to complicate things. I hate that it's all happening to you. I hate that there's no quick fix like take this pill and it will all be better. 

    Thank you for describing the cranes in your oncologist's office. I'm trying to picture it all. It sounds like he made what artists call an installation, not just some cranes hanging on strings. If I'm picturing what you're describing, the light hits the ones made of foil and the light hits the crystals up top. I'm going to try some foil, see what happens. What I'm imagining is beautiful!!

    Sending you a big hug. No margarita cause it's probably not good for you. 

    xoxo

    Victoria

     

  • Double Whammy
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    aisling8 said:

    wow

    Oh my, Carol, reading what's going on with you, it's so much and sounds overwhelming. It makes me want to come to your house and make you some soup, not that I know how to make good soup, but something comforting, something -- oh, wait, that would be a margarita:)

    You've outlived the studies and here you are with real needs and real problems and nothing's easy. I hate that money and insurance get thrown into the mix to complicate things. I hate that it's all happening to you. I hate that there's no quick fix like take this pill and it will all be better. 

    Thank you for describing the cranes in your oncologist's office. I'm trying to picture it all. It sounds like he made what artists call an installation, not just some cranes hanging on strings. If I'm picturing what you're describing, the light hits the ones made of foil and the light hits the crystals up top. I'm going to try some foil, see what happens. What I'm imagining is beautiful!!

    Sending you a big hug. No margarita cause it's probably not good for you. 

    xoxo

    Victoria

     

    Well, there you are!

    Doesn't sound like the best of times for you - again.  So sorry to hear about all the fallout you're experiencing.  I guess fallout is the best word for all the treatments you've had, my friend.  I think about you often.

    Hugs,

    Suzanne

    I want a margarita, Victoria.  Let's have one for Carol.  Oh, she'll probably have one with us!

     

  • camul
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    GlowMore said:

    You are...

    You Carol are ONE FANTASTIC WOMAN.........  I feel humbled and proud to be on the same board with you. 

    Prayers ..  and Love  ..  Glo

    Thanks Glo...
    It is more like fumbling thru though! You are always so upbeat and positive. Something that some days is hard to be.
    Hugs and keep posting.
    Carol
  • camul
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    Carol thank you for sharing

    Carol,

    I am feeling your pain . It has been a very tough fight for you. You are my inspiration to any obstacles in life.

    I admire you courage and willpower and looking forward to see you again.

    hugs

     

    Thanks Jean and Olga.
    This really s a bi#%& of a journey. I am still trying to figure out if I will be able to make my annual California Journey. The beach just seems to be what I need, just the thought of travelling thou tires me out, but once there I am always rejuvinated. We have had so much rain the last month. I am sure that is addi
    ng to the pain with arthritis.
    Hugs to both, Olga, I will email you, hope the chemo gets better.
  • camul
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    Well, there you are!

    Doesn't sound like the best of times for you - again.  So sorry to hear about all the fallout you're experiencing.  I guess fallout is the best word for all the treatments you've had, my friend.  I think about you often.

    Hugs,

    Suzanne

    I want a margarita, Victoria.  Let's have one for Carol.  Oh, she'll probably have one with us!

     

    no way Victoria aand Suzanne

    I will have one with you! We will need to start about noon thou, so it does not affect my breathing when I go to sleep! Vctoria, it is reall beautiful, and it is the foils and crystals reflecting! Felt like I should have been doing cards or getting a reading. What you would see in a Woo Woo store.

  • VickiSam
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    camul said:

    no way Victoria aand Suzanne

    I will have one with you! We will need to start about noon thou, so it does not affect my breathing when I go to sleep! Vctoria, it is reall beautiful, and it is the foils and crystals reflecting! Felt like I should have been doing cards or getting a reading. What you would see in a Woo Woo store.

    Carol .. like it has been stated, so humbled

    to be in your Company.  I don't have the words .. Humbling to KNOW YOU... frustrated to see you dealing with so much. The intense stress you are under daily, and unimaginable pain you must be in.

    I do know that I keep you close to my heart, and in prayers daily. 

    Gentle hugs and magic sprinkles I send to YOU, Carol.

     

    Vicki Sam

     

     

  • 1surfermom
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    Hello Carol

    Carol

    You sure have been put thru the wringer. I hope that all goes well for your dental procedure. I understand your feeling of dealing with insurance issues, it makes me furious that we have to fight for coverage when through no fault of our own have been dealt a serious illness. I'm off the soap box now and I am sending you a huge hug . Love surf

     

  • aisling8
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    camul said:

    no way Victoria aand Suzanne

    I will have one with you! We will need to start about noon thou, so it does not affect my breathing when I go to sleep! Vctoria, it is reall beautiful, and it is the foils and crystals reflecting! Felt like I should have been doing cards or getting a reading. What you would see in a Woo Woo store.

    All right

    I'll start drinking in the morning, I'll allow you to thoroughly corrupt me:)

  • camul
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    VickiSam said:

    Carol .. like it has been stated, so humbled

    to be in your Company.  I don't have the words .. Humbling to KNOW YOU... frustrated to see you dealing with so much. The intense stress you are under daily, and unimaginable pain you must be in.

    I do know that I keep you close to my heart, and in prayers daily. 

    Gentle hugs and magic sprinkles I send to YOU, Carol.

     

    Vicki Sam

     

     

    aThanks VickiSam
    It just is ehat it is Today the dentist office called, the spri kler system broke and thedental school flooded so they have cancelled all appointments. Now I go June 9th. Just hope it does not get infected again.
    As far as me humbling people, I just do what I have to to make it thru. Nothing special. But yhank you.
    Sure wish you would have made it last June to so. cal get together. I really would have enjoyed meeting you!
    Hugs,
    Carol
  • camul
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    Hello Carol

    Carol

    You sure have been put thru the wringer. I hope that all goes well for your dental procedure. I understand your feeling of dealing with insurance issues, it makes me furious that we have to fight for coverage when through no fault of our own have been dealt a serious illness. I'm off the soap box now and I am sending you a huge hug . Love surf

     

    Thanks Surf
    I will never get off the insurance box! I pay more for supplement (cobra) than I did as my primary, samr insurance... just as a secondary, they went fron 1000 out of pocket max, to 3900. Deductable, and where I use to jusst pay co-pays, now even when I reach my deductable, there is no longer an out of pocket mthey deny almost every claim. Reason? If medicare pays so much, and hosp contract takes more off, they feel that is their share.
    Amazing what we have ddone as a socieity by allowing the ins. companys to run our healthcare system and determine what care we can re ieve. Glad our Congress and Senate are working for the people and not the ins. an pharmasuetical conglomerates.
    Hugs,
    Carol