Bowel control

buckeye2
buckeye2 Member Posts: 428 Member
My husband had resection of small and large intestine without colostomy end of Nov. and continues to battle bathroom issues. It's either too much or not enough. Can any of you give me an idea of whether he will regain some normalcy in this area? Lisa

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  • PhillieG
    PhillieG Member Posts: 4,866 Member
    Battle of the Bowels
    I had surgery and no colostomy was needed too. Things balanced out after a while. Mine was a long time ago but since your husband's was only two months ago, I think it still needs time to heal and adjust to the new "route". Like many things when dealing with cancer, he may have a New Normal but they should become more predictable.
    -phil
  • smokeyjoe
    smokeyjoe Member Posts: 1,425 Member
    PhillieG said:

    Battle of the Bowels
    I had surgery and no colostomy was needed too. Things balanced out after a while. Mine was a long time ago but since your husband's was only two months ago, I think it still needs time to heal and adjust to the new "route". Like many things when dealing with cancer, he may have a New Normal but they should become more predictable.
    -phil

    It's a balancing act, I had
    It's a balancing act, I had to find the right amount of immodium every morning and things are normal when I pop three every morning. Now, when on chemo. that threw it all off from time to time, but not much. In time it will get better.
  • tommycat
    tommycat Member Posts: 790 Member
    Don't know if you're going
    Don't know if you're going to like this response or not, but I do hope you find it helpful. Some of the things I had to contend with after my reattachment surgery were explosive diarrhea or painful constipation. It really took time and a big learning curve to get things to my now normal routine. I used Depends for about eight months in case things got busy, and I learned to adjust my diet and/or take Miralax or a stool softener if things seemed to be backing up.
    It's been 16 months since that surgery and now things are pretty predictable. But it did take time.
  • plh4gail
    plh4gail Member Posts: 1,238 Member
    My resection was a year ago
    My resection was a year ago from October and I finished chemo last May. I waited for chemo to be over before I worked on my "new normal". I've tried different medications, eating certain things, and staying away from others, also amount I eat and time. The only thing worse than unexpected mad dashes to the bathroom is being out and needing a restroom and there isn't one around.

    I hope like the others said, with time, it will get better and better. But, for now at 8 months out of chemo this is what seems to work best and I need to be pretty faithfull with some of it. I take 3 chewable Benefiber morning and night (bulks things up). I add Immodium as needed. But when I do take it, I start with 4 and take another 2 or 3 each time till it stops. It sounds like a lot, but I don't have the problem of not going. For food, I eat a banana at least once a day, and usually peanut butter sandwich or on toast daily. (I use a good bread like Milton's, organic peanut butter, organic honey, and flax on mine) Those are the only foods I know seem to help. And there are things I think can really mess me up, and its not the spicy or rich stuff (I can have the yummy red sauce but if I try the alfredo I might pay a price). ...it's milk, or too acidic like oranges or orange juice. I can pretty much eat anything. But if I keep it smaller meals and servings, it seems to be easier on my system.

    Another thing and sorry if tmi but for me, just in case...I never leave the house without my "emergency kit" because I feel like a kindergartner again sometimes. It includes Immodium, pads, panties, and used to be pants. I take a bottle of water every single time I go somewhere and at least have these things in the car. I know it sounds like a lot but I've had some tough situations happen and learn as I go.

    The good news is...it's getting better and easier to manage if I stay with my routine.

    Hugs, plh4gail
  • herdizziness
    herdizziness Member Posts: 3,624 Member
    Bathroom issues
    I was just thinking about this the other day as I sat on a potty at the Lowes store in San Jose. I was thinking about my departed Cousin Richard and how he knew where every bathroom was in every store we went to and that would be he first thing he would point out to me. I would smile, tell him "that's good to know" and think in my head "Good Lord, why do we need to know where every bathroom is?"
    A couple of years later and on my way to and from school which is 4 miles from my house, I know where the closest public bathrooms are. It isn't something constant in my mind, but when I need it, I know where one is.
    The surgeon that did my resection said that going to the bathroom would be an entirely new experience and a new norm. She was right. But heck, I figure that's the price of living, so I deal with it, and that thought makes it seem "not so bad".
    I don't apparently have problems as bad as others, because I don't take pills (mostly because I really dislike pills), or worry about having extra clothes with me (and believe me, sometimes I wish I had taken extra clothes but got lucky and didn't have an "accident") but the minute my body insists it needs to go and go NOW, I start heading to the nearest place with a restroom, I've barely made it a few times.
    Winter Marie
  • John23
    John23 Member Posts: 2,122 Member
    Lisa -

    Something that hasn't been mentioned, is regarding the amount
    of intestine that's been removed.

    Between the small intestine and large intestine, is a section that's
    called an "ileocecal valve". The "valve" has two purposes in life:
    It keeps bacteria from the large intestine from migrating into the
    small intestine..... and... It helps regulate the output from the
    small intestine into the large intestine.

    It's the second part of that, that is of concern.

    When the large intestine is resected, that valve (being part of the
    large intestine) is usually removed. The output from the small intestine
    is then uncontrolled, and the waste enters the large intestine
    unhampered and at whatever speed the small intestine decides
    is adequate.

    If too much large intestine has been removed, the very liquid
    output from the small intestine that's being dumped into the large
    intestine and to the anus, will be more liquid than otherwise.

    No, not diarrhea.... just waste that hasn't been processed the
    way mom nature designed it to be processed.

    Mom nature doesn't like us messin' with it's system.

    So..... long story short?

    Your mileage may vary depending on what sections have been
    "modified", and what remains.

    If the output is too much to deal with, and the trips to the toilet
    become overwhelming and too time consuming, then the possibility
    of either a colostomy or Ileostomy should be seriously explored.

    I prefer my Ileostomy to the alternative of wearing "Depends"
    and being chained to a toilet.

    Try to find out more from your surgeon, regarding "how much
    of what" was taken out, and what's left. There's no rush to
    do anything, but it'd be good to know for future reference.

    Best of health!

    John
  • thingy45
    thingy45 Member Posts: 632 Member
    John23 said:

    Lisa -

    Something that hasn't been mentioned, is regarding the amount
    of intestine that's been removed.

    Between the small intestine and large intestine, is a section that's
    called an "ileocecal valve". The "valve" has two purposes in life:
    It keeps bacteria from the large intestine from migrating into the
    small intestine..... and... It helps regulate the output from the
    small intestine into the large intestine.

    It's the second part of that, that is of concern.

    When the large intestine is resected, that valve (being part of the
    large intestine) is usually removed. The output from the small intestine
    is then uncontrolled, and the waste enters the large intestine
    unhampered and at whatever speed the small intestine decides
    is adequate.

    If too much large intestine has been removed, the very liquid
    output from the small intestine that's being dumped into the large
    intestine and to the anus, will be more liquid than otherwise.

    No, not diarrhea.... just waste that hasn't been processed the
    way mom nature designed it to be processed.

    Mom nature doesn't like us messin' with it's system.

    So..... long story short?

    Your mileage may vary depending on what sections have been
    "modified", and what remains.

    If the output is too much to deal with, and the trips to the toilet
    become overwhelming and too time consuming, then the possibility
    of either a colostomy or Ileostomy should be seriously explored.

    I prefer my Ileostomy to the alternative of wearing "Depends"
    and being chained to a toilet.

    Try to find out more from your surgeon, regarding "how much
    of what" was taken out, and what's left. There's no rush to
    do anything, but it'd be good to know for future reference.

    Best of health!

    John

    Dear Lisa.
    I had my

    Dear Lisa.
    I had my resection end of April 2011. When it started to work it worked. it took a good 5 to 6 months for it to become"normal" Again it depends on what I eat and at what time. I do know were every bathroom is in everystore and place I go. A few times I barely made it, but I have been lucky. The first 2 months after my operation I stayed home or wore depends.
    You will get used to it and it became better for me over time.
    I hope the same for you. It is with everything "Patience"

    Marjan