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Casein in milk and protein in general and cancer from the Huffington Post

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kathy-freston/a-cure-for-cancer-eating_b_298282.html

I hope that some of you take the time to read this article and at least think about what it has to say. The more info in the greater one has to work with in making decisions. Personally, I don't know if it's a cure for cancer, but if proper diet can slow cancer cell's division time way, way down, taking dietary and lifestyle action could you put you on the far end of the most likely to not survive list. I'm trying to die of old age, not cancer. So far, so good. She too believes synergism is vitally important.

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Written by Kathy Preston for the Huffington Post Posted: September 24, 2009 08:34 AM
A Cure For Cancer? Eating A Plant-Based Diet

I have been working closely recently with a few extraordinary nutritional researchers, and I find that the information they have compiled is quite eye opening. Interestingly, what these highly esteemed doctors are saying is just beginning to be understood and accepted, perhaps because what they are saying does not conveniently fit in with or support the multi-billion dollar food industries that profit from our "not knowing". One thing is for sure: we are getting sicker and more obese than our health care system can handle, and the conventional methods of dealing with disease often have harmful side effects and are ineffective for some patients.
As it is now, one out of every two of us will get cancer or heart disease and die from it - an ugly and painful death as anyone who has witnessed it can attest. And starting in the year 2000, one out of every three children who are born after that year will develop diabetes--a disease that for most sufferers (those with Type 2 diabetes) is largely preventable with lifestyle changes. This is a rapidly emerging crisis, the seriousness of which I'm not sure we have yet recognized. The good news is, the means to prevent and heal disease seems to be right in front of us; it's in our food. Quite frankly, our food choices can either kill us - which mounting studies say that they are, or they can lift us right out of the disease process and into soaring health.
In the next few months, I will share a series of interviews I've conducted with the preeminent doctors and nutritional researchers in the fields of their respective expertise. And here it is straight out: they are all saying the same thing in different ways and through multiple and varying studies: animal protein seems to greatly contribute to diseases of nearly every type; and a plant-based diet is not only good for our health, but it's also curative of the very serious diseases we face .

Cancer On the subject of cancer, I've asked Dr. T. Colin Campbell, Professor Emeritus of Cornell University and author of the groundbreaking The China Study to explain how cancer happens and what we can do to prevent and reverse it. Dr. Campbell's work is regarded by many as the definitive epidemiological examination of the relationship between diet and disease. He has received more than 70 grant years of peer-reviewed research funding, much of which was funded by the U.S. National Institutes of Health (NIH), and he has authored more than 300 research papers. He grew up on a dairy farm believing in the great health value of animal protein in the American diet and set out in his career to investigate how to produce more and better animal protein. Troublesome to his preconceived hypothesis of the goodness of dairy, Dr. Campbell kept running up against results that consistently proved an emerging and comprehensive truth: that animal protein is disastrous to human health.
Through a variety of experimental study designs, epidemiological evidence, along with observation of real life conditions which had rational biological explanation, Dr. Campbell has made a direct and powerful correlation between cancer (and other diseases and illnesses) and animal protein. Following is a conversation I had with him so that I could better understand the association.

KF: What happens in the body when cancer develops? What is the actual process?
TCC: Cancer generally develops over a long period of time,

divided into 3 stages,initiation, promotion and progression.

Initiation occurs when chemicals or other agents attack the genes of normal cells to produce genetically modified cells capable of eventually causing cancer. The body generally repairs most such damage but if the cell reproduces itself before it is repaired, its new (daughter) cell retains this genetic damage. This process may occur within minutes and, to some extent, is thought to be occurring most of the time in most of our tissues.

Promotion occurs when the initiated cells continue to replicate themselves and grow into cell masses that eventually will be diagnosed. This is a long growth phase occurring over months or years and is known to be reversible.

Progression occurs when the growing cancer masses invade neighboring tissues and/or break away from the tissue of origin (metastasis) and travel to distant tissues when they are capable of growing independently at which point they are considered to be malignant.
KF: Why do some people get cancer, and other don't? What percentage is genetic, and what percentage has to do with diet?

TCC: Although the initiated cells are not considered to be reversible, the cells growing through the promotion stage are usually considered to be reversible, a very exciting concept. This is the stage that especially responds to nutritional factors. For example, the nutrients from animal based foods, especially the protein, promote the development of the cancer whereas the nutrients from plant-based foods, especially the antioxidants, reverse the promotion stage. This is a very promising observation because cancer proceeds forward or backward as a function of the balance of promoting and anti-promoting factors found in the diet, thus consuming anti-promoting plant-based foods tend to keep the cancer from going forward, perhaps even reversing the promotion. The difference between individuals is almost entirely related to their diet and lifestyle practices.
Although all cancer and other diseases begin with genes, this is not the reason whether or not the disease actually appears. If people do the right thing during the promotion stage, perhaps even during the progression stage, cancer will not appear and if it does, might even be resolved. Most estimates suggest that not more than 2-3 percent of cancers are due entirely to genes; almost all the rest is due to diet and lifestyle factors. Consuming plant based foods offers the best hope of avoiding cancer, perhaps even reversing cancer once it is diagnosed. Believing that cancer is attributed to genes is a fatalistic idea but believing that cancer can be controlled by nutrition is a far more hopeful idea.

KF: You said that initially something attacks the genes, chemicals or other agents; like what?
TCC: Cancer, like every other biological event--good or bad--begins with genes. In the case of cancer, gene(s) that give rise to cancer either may be present when we are born or, during our lifetimes, normal genes may be converted into cancer genes by certain highly reactive chemicals (i.e., carcinogens).
Consider 'cancer genes' as seeds that grow into tumor masses only if they are 'fed'. The 'feeding' comes from wrongful nutrition. It's like growing a lawn. We plant seeds but they don't grow into grass (or weeds) unless they are provided water, sunlight and nutrients. So it is with cancer. In reality, we are planting seeds all of our lifetime although some may be present at birth, not only for cancer but also for other events as well. But this mostly does not matter unless we 'nourish' their growth.
The chemicals that create these cancer genes are called 'carcinogens'. Most carcinogens of years past have been those that attack normal genes to give cancer genes. These are initiating carcinogens, or initiators. But more recently, carcinogens also may be those that promote cancer growth. They are promoting carcinogens, or promoters.

OUR WORK SHOWED THAT CASEIN IS THE MOST RELEVANT CANCER PROMOTER EVER DISCOVERED.
My note: Casein is in milk.
Aside from chemicals initiating or promoting cancer, other agents such as cosmic rays (energetic particles) from the sun or from the outer reaches of space may impact our genes to cause them to change (i.e., mutate) so that they could give rise to cancer 'seeds'. The most important point to consider is that we cannot do much about preventing initiation but we can do a lot about preventing promotion. The initiating idea is fatalistic and outside of our control but the promotion idea is hopeful because we can change our exposure to promoting agents and reverse the cancer process, thus is within our control.
KF: What exactly is so bad about animal protein?
TCC: I don't choose the word "exactly" because it suggests something very specific. Rather, casein causes a broad spectrum of adverse effects.
Among other fundamental effects, it makes the body more acidic, alters the mix of hormones and modifies important enzyme activities, each of which can cause a broad array of more specific effects. One of these effects is its ability to promote cancer growth (by operating on key enzyme systems, by increasing hormone growth factors and by modifying the tissue acidity). Another is its ability to increase blood cholesterol (by modifying enzyme activities) and to enhance atherogenesis, which is the early stage of cardiovascular disease.
And finally, although these are casein-specific effects, it should be noted that other animal-based proteins are likely to have the same effect as casein.

KF: Ok, so I am clear that it's wise to avoid casein, which is intrinsic in dairy (milk and cheese), but how is other animal protein, such as chicken, steak, or pork, implicated in the cause and growth of cancer?
TCC: I would first say that casein is not just "intrinsic" but IS THE MAIN PROTEIN OF COW MILK, REPRESENTING ABOUT 87% OF THE MILK PROTEIN.
The biochemical systems which underlie the adverse effects of casein are also common to other animal-based proteins. Also, the amino acid composition of casein, which is the characteristic primarily responsible for its property, is similar to most other animal-based proteins. They all have what we call high 'biological value', in comparison, for example, with plant-based proteins, which is why animal protein promotes cancer growth and plant protein doesn't.

KF: Isn't anything in moderation ok, as long as we don't overdo it?
TCC: I rather like the expression told by my friend, Caldwell Esselstyn, Jr., MD, the Cleveland Clinic surgeon who reversed heart disease and who says, "Moderation kills!" I prefer to go the whole way, not because we have fool-proof evidence showing that 100% is better than, say, 95% for every single person for every single condition but that it is easier to avoid straying off on an excursion that too often becomes a slippery slope back to our old ways. Moreover, going the whole way allows us to adapt to new unrealized tastes and to rid ourselves of some old addictions. And finally, moderation often means very different things for different people.
KF: Are you saying that if one changes their diet from animal based protein to plant-based protein that the disease process of cancer can be halted and reversed?
TCC: Yes, this is what our experimental research shows. I also have become aware of many anecdotal claims by people who have said that their switch to a plant-based diet stopped even reversed (cured?) their disease. One study on melanoma has been published in the peer-reviewed literature that shows convincing evidence that cancer progression is substantially halted with this diet.

KF: How long does it take to see changes?
TCC: It is not clear because carefully designed research in humans has not been done. However, we demonstrated and published findings showing that experimental progression of disease is at least suspended, even reversed, when tumors are clearly present.
KF: Consider a person who has been eating poorly his whole life; is there still hope that a dietary change can make a big difference? Or is everything already in motion?
TCC: Yes, a variety of evidence shows that cancers and non-cancers alike can be stopped even after consuming a poor diet earlier in life. This effect is equivalent to treatment, a very exciting concept.

KF: This is sounding like it's a cure for cancer; is that the case?
TCC: Yes. The problem in this area of medicine is that traditional doctors are so focused on the use of targeted therapies (chemo, surgery, radiation) that they refuse to even acknowledge the use of therapies like nutrition and are loathe to even want to do proper research in this area. So, in spite of the considerable evidence--theoretical and practical--to support a beneficial nutritional effect, every effort will be made to discredit it. It's a self-serving motive.
KF: What else do you recommend one does to avoid, stop, or reverse cancer?
TCC: A good diet, when coupled with other health promoting activities like exercise, adequate fresh air and sunlight, good water and sleep, will be more beneficial. The whole is greater than the sum of its parts.
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It is anybody here who didn't read The China Study?????

california_artist
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How ya doin'. I do think a lot of people not only didn't read it, but have never heard of it.
Love ya,

claudia

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culka
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this is my 3 day on water, so I'm fine.

How many times we mention that book here? Me at least 2 or 3.

california_artist
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here, there will always be someone who hasn't heard and those that have, can just think that they already have that info and move on. Also, there was a bit on the progression of cancer. There are many who have no idea about that either.

Hey, when you go on a fast do you drink green smoothies or something for nutrients or do you just do the water? Now, don't hollar at me, as I saw that you said water, I just wondered if you had anything else. Love ya.

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culka
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And which part of water you can't understand.

No really, if it is diet - juices
if it is fast - water and more water

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I've only heard about it in passing, never read anything about it here that I recall.
It happens. I gather from what I see here now that I've arrived at a pretty similar place, but I will try to pick it up anyway.
There is no one source of basic information, no one go-to place.
I feel as though I have been playing catch-up every single damn step of the way. I went into surgery with the false belief that it would be at an early stage and therefore very self-contained and easy. I did very, very little research in advance--definitely not enough to know what I should do to protect myself.
I'm having a very difficult time not blaming myself for not being more proactive from the first minute I thought something was wrong, let alone from the time of diagnosis forward.
I cannot believe how challenging it is to grapple with this condition.

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Claudia,

Very interesting ... have tried not to eat much meat or dairy since diagnosis. (Occasionally have just a small bit of feta if from organic source as goats are reputedly not fed hormones and antibiotics as cows usually are. Even then I feel guilty.

But what about the implications for whey protein--DERIVED from grass-fed cows? So many alternative nutritionists tout the benefits of whey as ANTI-carcinogenic particularly because it is a precursor of glutatione.

In fact, given all the warnings about animal protein, grains (too high in sugar), fruits (too high in sugar) and so on, I often feel there's nearly nothing I can eat without worry.

And by the way: where do we all stand on an occasional single glass of red wine? Some claim it's actually good for us as long as we consume it with a meal; others say stay away entirely.

Thanks,
Rosey

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Personally, all things in moderation, tempered with the particular state of your health.
Let's take grapes, there's good, the resveratrol, there's the other good, alkaline, then there's the sugar. I eat grapes, especially in the morning, after not having eaten anything for hours, cause I know my little cancer cells are very hungry, with that thought they'll take the sugar along with the resveratrol and the alkalinity and in the long run, not come out the winner.

So, one can look at it like that. Few things are perfect. Weigh the pros and cons and make a decision based on your needs. If you really need or would be ever so happy to have a glass of wine, fine, take into account the acidity and have it with something to balance that, say a slice of melon, or green tea and lemon. That's what I do, I have fun and then I figure out how to get back to where I need to be. Every once in a while I actually plan ahead. It shouldn't be all or nothing.

Enjoyment weighs as a plus on the scales. Stress is the real killer, as it doesn't allow your immune system to work on the business of killing your cancer cells.

Just do the best you can today, and take a clue from what my daughter told me the other day when I was ruing some long past fate. She said, "Mom, I let the past go and just think like Scarlett from Gone with the Wind, that tomorrow is another day." We can simply give ourselves a break and try to do better tomorrow. Helps one sleep better at night. And, it really makes me appreciate my daughter.

Thinking kindly of you all no matter what you do,

Claudia

I know very little about whey. Is it the protein only, which from cows and is it mostly entirely casein? Do you want me to look it up?

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I don't know much about whey powder either but it is my understanding that there are two main proteins in milk- casien and whey. The casien (curd) is removed from the milk to make cheese and the whey is the milk protein separated from the casein protein.

So, it seems whey powder MIGHT be acceptable?

Karen

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Claudia,

Thank you very much for the article.
I am currently eating Greek yogurt, because I am trying to gain some weight.Now, I am
concerned about it. I also eat fish, at least twice week for the same reason.

I do not know what to do? I am loosing oz of weight, which it should not worry me, but I would like at least to maintain my weight.

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Well, what about an avocado with some homemade salsa. Sometimes I just mash the two together and eat them with a spoon. It's really good, packs some major calories and has essential fatty acids, the good kind of acids, it's good for your liver. Check it out on the net.

Fish should be fine once or twice a week.Again, it's a balance. The one thing you would want to avoid is a high protein drink as they are often based on casein powders, which aren't good, sugars and a lot of protein.

Aside from the weight, how are you feeling. You've been rather quiet lately. Last time we talked you were only down a couple of pounds from your pre dancer weight.

How do you say you're welcome again?

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Thank you very much. I'll look into its benefits and see if it fits for me with what I'm doing.

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