Just diagnosed with mucoepidermoid on the upper left palate

Hello: I was diagnosed on Tuesday with mucoepidermoid carcinoma on the left palate, Grade II, by an oral surgeon. I have a follow-up appointment with an ENT next week. I am full of questions. Is an ENT the most likely doctor to treat the cancer? I read some of the previous posts and see that it is rare to be in the minor salivary glands on the roof of the mouth. I would like to know what to expect from surgery and radiation treatments. Is surgery an outpatient or inpatient procedure? What is the recovery like? I know my mouth is very sore from the incision the oral surgeon made to remove the tissue. I can't imagine the pain and healing that will come with having more of my hard palate removed. I have also had a lot of excess fluid in my left ear and wonder if there is a relationship with the tumor. Any input I can get from others who have experienced this form of cancer will be most appreciated. I am also a thyroid cancer survivor of 19 years and wonder if there is a correlation between thyroid cancer, the radioactive iodine treatment and salivary gland cancer. Thank you and God Bless.

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  • Hondo
    Hondo Member Posts: 6,636 Member
    Hi ajerger
    More then likely all your problems in the head are related to the tumor, but hoping the ENT will be able to tell you for sure. I don’t believe that the thyroid cancer you had 19 years ago has anything to do with this one, but sounds like you are a fighter and will have the victory over this one as well. Just keep your attitude and faith in God and let him take control of the wheel.

    PS: Welcome to the Family here on CSN,

    Keeping you in prayer
    Hondo
  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member
    Welcome
    Welcome to the forum...some great people here, and tons of experience....

    I noticed that HONDO said something about "something wrong in the head", and thought he was talking about me again, LOL....

    I'm sorry I can't offer any expereince with your particulars, mine was STGIII SCC HPV+ Tonsils.

    Sixteen weeks of chemo (nine weeks (three week cycles of cisplatin, taxotere and 5FU)), then seven weeks of concurrent weekly carboplatin and daily rads.

    But, I can give you my Thoughts and Prayers.

    Best,
    John
  • Hondo
    Hondo Member Posts: 6,636 Member
    Skiffin16 said:

    Welcome
    Welcome to the forum...some great people here, and tons of experience....

    I noticed that HONDO said something about "something wrong in the head", and thought he was talking about me again, LOL....

    I'm sorry I can't offer any expereince with your particulars, mine was STGIII SCC HPV+ Tonsils.

    Sixteen weeks of chemo (nine weeks (three week cycles of cisplatin, taxotere and 5FU)), then seven weeks of concurrent weekly carboplatin and daily rads.

    But, I can give you my Thoughts and Prayers.

    Best,
    John

    John
    That would be pain in the head. lol

    Don't you just love this place. :)
    Hondo
  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member
    Hondo said:

    John
    That would be pain in the head. lol

    Don't you just love this place. :)
    Hondo

    Head
    LOL, I've been called a pain in the azz before, but never a pain in the head, LOL....

    JG
  • ajerger
    ajerger Member Posts: 3
    Skiffin16 said:

    Head
    LOL, I've been called a pain in the azz before, but never a pain in the head, LOL....

    JG

    Funny
    You guys are funny. Thank you for your insight and humor. As a one-time survivor and hope to soon say, "two-time ca survivor," I appreciate the humor. My first experience with cancer was too serious. I began to heal only when I found humor again. Thanks for your prayers and well wishes. They help a lot, too.
  • Hondo
    Hondo Member Posts: 6,636 Member
    ajerger said:

    Funny
    You guys are funny. Thank you for your insight and humor. As a one-time survivor and hope to soon say, "two-time ca survivor," I appreciate the humor. My first experience with cancer was too serious. I began to heal only when I found humor again. Thanks for your prayers and well wishes. They help a lot, too.

    Hi ajerger
    As you can see John and I have been here on CSN H&N for quite some time now and we stay just to try and make someone else’s day a little brighter. Sometimes we need t forget about our trials and troubles even if it is only for a few minutes and have a good old laugh. Great having you here with us

    PS: There is one more person you need to be careful of and she goes by the name Sweetblood she has been known for her many good Superthread, a real villain I might add. :) lol (:


    Wishing you the best
    Hondo
  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member
    Hondo said:

    Hi ajerger
    As you can see John and I have been here on CSN H&N for quite some time now and we stay just to try and make someone else’s day a little brighter. Sometimes we need t forget about our trials and troubles even if it is only for a few minutes and have a good old laugh. Great having you here with us

    PS: There is one more person you need to be careful of and she goes by the name Sweetblood she has been known for her many good Superthread, a real villain I might add. :) lol (:


    Wishing you the best
    Hondo

    DAWN aka Sweetblood
    Yes, she can be a mean spirited one.....she'll punch you in the throat if you're not careful, and sick her demon dog Nizzy Noodle on you....and if that doesn't scare you, there's always her Grams that will do you in. :)

    JG
  • Hondo
    Hondo Member Posts: 6,636 Member
    Skiffin16 said:

    DAWN aka Sweetblood
    Yes, she can be a mean spirited one.....she'll punch you in the throat if you're not careful, and sick her demon dog Nizzy Noodle on you....and if that doesn't scare you, there's always her Grams that will do you in. :)

    JG

    Thats the one !!!


    We are dead meat if by chance she finds this thread


    H :)
  • sweetblood22
    sweetblood22 Member Posts: 3,228
    Arerger
    Now that I have thoroughly ignored the Bozo and Slappy the clown show up there, I can perhaps give you a proper welcome.

    I did not have your type of cancer, but IIRC I can point you in the direction of a few CSN folks who did. I don't think they are posting much these days. I know one is having a baby. Maybe even pretty soon, so she probably has her hands full, adding another kidlet to her family. You can use the search function and put in the name of your cancer and or their screen names and look for the info that they have contributed. Ekdennie, was always very detailed. The others that I can think of are kingcole42005, deb e 19, and something like ltrll. I think that the last guys name was Len, but he didn't post much. You could try and send them a private message, as well, but as I said, I dunno if they even lurk here that much. Couldn't hurt tho.

    Also, here is the link to the superthread if you would like to check it out.

    HNC  SUPERTHREAD

    Wishing you well,

    Sweets
  • sweetblood22
    sweetblood22 Member Posts: 3,228
    Hey. Frick and Frack.
    Excuse me? Are you intentionally trying to wind up a firey little Sicilian? Don't you boys ever learn? You've been married long enough, you think you know better by now.

    Don't make me hurt you.
  • ekdennie
    ekdennie Member Posts: 238 Member
    MEC of the hard palate
    ajerger,

    I hope I can offer you some help. I was diagnosed with Mucoepidermoid Carcinoma (MEC) last year (june 30) by an oral surgeon. my tumor had been there for at least 5 1/2 years, but I had been told not to worry about it, that it was a boney growth...my dentist was wrong. they wouldn't tell me a stage for it at first, beyond that it was Low Grade. with MEC it is important to know not just what stage it is, but what grade. the grade is the most important piece to determine your treatment course. as it turns out they had thought I had a stage IV, low grade MEC, but after the surgical removal of almost a golf ball sized piece of tumor, plus margin tissue, it was determined that I had a stage II, intermediate grade tumor. if it had been low grade then I would not have needed radiation, but once it was found to be intermediate grade then radiation is the best course of treatment to help decrease the likelihood of a recurrence.

    as for surgery, you have two options, you can have an oral surgeon do the surgery, or you can have an ENT, but I know that I am very grateful that I had an amazing ENT perform my surgery (my tumor had grown into my sinuses). my surgery was technically outpatient...if you are at the hospital for less than 24 hours it is outpatient...I was there for just about 23 hours. the degree of discomfort post surgery will depend on how deep the tumor has grown and on its size. it is considered less painful if they remove a portion of the hard palate (bone) as well as the soft tissue, as they are removing the nerves as well. I was given liquid medications and a temporary mouthpiece as I had a large hole on the roof of my mouth, this allowed me to breathe, drink, and sound pretty normal, until I lost some blood clots, then I sounded funny and was later fitted with a different mouthpiece, which I am wearing now. not everyone will need a mouthpiece, in many cases they can close the hole back up. it is important to ask if reconstruction will be possible and necessary. it was not possible in my case. just like when you had the biopsy done, your mouth will be sore, you will want to eat soft foods at a temperature that feels comfortable to you. I ate a lot of macaroni and cheese and jello. my recovery was rough, but that was mostly due to the size of my tumor and through blood loss.
    as for the fluid in your ear, you will need to ask the ENT, i know it is possible, but they will be able to help you more.
    for right now, just focus on the surgery and the recovery from it. it is important that you exercise as much as possible now before the surgery so that your body is as strong as possible. I walked every day in the weeks leading up to my surgery. I also had my regular dr check to make sure I wasn't anemic...that would delay your surgery. on a positive side, MEC is a very slow growing tumor unless it is High Grade, so you won't have to worry about it.

    some basic info about MEC. three grades of tumor, low, intermediate, and high grade. recommended treatment options for each grade is (based on what I found last year), low grade= surgery with clear margins, surgery +radiation if clear margins are not possible; intermediate= surgery +radiation regardless of clear margins; high grade= surgery +radiation and/or chemo.
    If you have a low grade tumor that is successfully removed with clear margins you can be considered cured. all other types you won't be considered cured for 5 years, but with no evidence of disease (NED) or no evidence of regrowth.
    as for stages, prognosis is usually great for those with stage I, II, or III tumors.
    MEC can occur in anyone at any time at any age. there are no known risk factors for it.
    It is also important to ask your doctor after you have had it removed what variety of MEC you had. MEC's are composed of many cell types. mine was clear cell variety (clear cell responds very well to radiation).

    message me after your surgery if your doctor(s) determine if you need radiation and I will let you know what it was like for me. I will be praying that you won't need it. it wasn't easy, but it was doable.

    on a positive note: my recovery from surgery was about 6-8 weeks. my radiation treatments were over in the middle of November last year, I was very worn out for about 6 weeks post treatment, and I have been doing great since. no sign of recurrence. I have 4 more years to go before I will be considered "cured". I will still have to see my ENT for life after my four more years are up, just at less frequent intervals as time goes on. I had a 4 month old at the time of my diagnosis...I was breastfeeding him. I continued to do so throughout all of my treatments, adjusting medication to ones that would be okay for him as well. 3 months post radiation I discovered I was pregnant with my fourth child. this child will be born in a couple of months.

    as with any diagnosis of cancer, each patient will have a different story. there will be rough times, there will be times when you just want to scream, but I feel strongly that there is a core of strength inside of each and everyone of us, that we don't even know we have. a positive attitude really makes a difference, as does having faith in your doctor(s). I am not on here very often right now as I am trying to spend more time with my kids...last year was rough on them, my oldest is not yet 6, but I will try to answer any questions you may have, and you can always read any of my old posts.

    Sending you HUGE HUGS!

    elizabeth
  • Hondo
    Hondo Member Posts: 6,636 Member

    Hey. Frick and Frack.
    Excuse me? Are you intentionally trying to wind up a firey little Sicilian? Don't you boys ever learn? You've been married long enough, you think you know better by now.

    Don't make me hurt you.

    Were in trouble now


    It’s too late John she found us, lol

    Sweet you know it is all because we love you and appreciate all the work you do with your superpost.


    :):):)
    Hondo
  • ajerger
    ajerger Member Posts: 3
    ekdennie said:

    MEC of the hard palate
    ajerger,

    I hope I can offer you some help. I was diagnosed with Mucoepidermoid Carcinoma (MEC) last year (june 30) by an oral surgeon. my tumor had been there for at least 5 1/2 years, but I had been told not to worry about it, that it was a boney growth...my dentist was wrong. they wouldn't tell me a stage for it at first, beyond that it was Low Grade. with MEC it is important to know not just what stage it is, but what grade. the grade is the most important piece to determine your treatment course. as it turns out they had thought I had a stage IV, low grade MEC, but after the surgical removal of almost a golf ball sized piece of tumor, plus margin tissue, it was determined that I had a stage II, intermediate grade tumor. if it had been low grade then I would not have needed radiation, but once it was found to be intermediate grade then radiation is the best course of treatment to help decrease the likelihood of a recurrence.

    as for surgery, you have two options, you can have an oral surgeon do the surgery, or you can have an ENT, but I know that I am very grateful that I had an amazing ENT perform my surgery (my tumor had grown into my sinuses). my surgery was technically outpatient...if you are at the hospital for less than 24 hours it is outpatient...I was there for just about 23 hours. the degree of discomfort post surgery will depend on how deep the tumor has grown and on its size. it is considered less painful if they remove a portion of the hard palate (bone) as well as the soft tissue, as they are removing the nerves as well. I was given liquid medications and a temporary mouthpiece as I had a large hole on the roof of my mouth, this allowed me to breathe, drink, and sound pretty normal, until I lost some blood clots, then I sounded funny and was later fitted with a different mouthpiece, which I am wearing now. not everyone will need a mouthpiece, in many cases they can close the hole back up. it is important to ask if reconstruction will be possible and necessary. it was not possible in my case. just like when you had the biopsy done, your mouth will be sore, you will want to eat soft foods at a temperature that feels comfortable to you. I ate a lot of macaroni and cheese and jello. my recovery was rough, but that was mostly due to the size of my tumor and through blood loss.
    as for the fluid in your ear, you will need to ask the ENT, i know it is possible, but they will be able to help you more.
    for right now, just focus on the surgery and the recovery from it. it is important that you exercise as much as possible now before the surgery so that your body is as strong as possible. I walked every day in the weeks leading up to my surgery. I also had my regular dr check to make sure I wasn't anemic...that would delay your surgery. on a positive side, MEC is a very slow growing tumor unless it is High Grade, so you won't have to worry about it.

    some basic info about MEC. three grades of tumor, low, intermediate, and high grade. recommended treatment options for each grade is (based on what I found last year), low grade= surgery with clear margins, surgery +radiation if clear margins are not possible; intermediate= surgery +radiation regardless of clear margins; high grade= surgery +radiation and/or chemo.
    If you have a low grade tumor that is successfully removed with clear margins you can be considered cured. all other types you won't be considered cured for 5 years, but with no evidence of disease (NED) or no evidence of regrowth.
    as for stages, prognosis is usually great for those with stage I, II, or III tumors.
    MEC can occur in anyone at any time at any age. there are no known risk factors for it.
    It is also important to ask your doctor after you have had it removed what variety of MEC you had. MEC's are composed of many cell types. mine was clear cell variety (clear cell responds very well to radiation).

    message me after your surgery if your doctor(s) determine if you need radiation and I will let you know what it was like for me. I will be praying that you won't need it. it wasn't easy, but it was doable.

    on a positive note: my recovery from surgery was about 6-8 weeks. my radiation treatments were over in the middle of November last year, I was very worn out for about 6 weeks post treatment, and I have been doing great since. no sign of recurrence. I have 4 more years to go before I will be considered "cured". I will still have to see my ENT for life after my four more years are up, just at less frequent intervals as time goes on. I had a 4 month old at the time of my diagnosis...I was breastfeeding him. I continued to do so throughout all of my treatments, adjusting medication to ones that would be okay for him as well. 3 months post radiation I discovered I was pregnant with my fourth child. this child will be born in a couple of months.

    as with any diagnosis of cancer, each patient will have a different story. there will be rough times, there will be times when you just want to scream, but I feel strongly that there is a core of strength inside of each and everyone of us, that we don't even know we have. a positive attitude really makes a difference, as does having faith in your doctor(s). I am not on here very often right now as I am trying to spend more time with my kids...last year was rough on them, my oldest is not yet 6, but I will try to answer any questions you may have, and you can always read any of my old posts.

    Sending you HUGE HUGS!

    elizabeth

    Thank you.
    Thank you, Elizabeth. After doing some preliminary research on here earlier this week, I identified you as someone I needed to talk to. Thank you very much for giving me the detailed information. I can really empathize with you on having the children at home during treatment. My daughter was 2 when I was diagnosed with thyroid cancer. That was 19 years ago and we are very close. We had some rough times over the years and some family therapy because she couldn't understand why I had to send her to her grandparents following radioactive iodine treatments. I also thought I could do it all by myself and didn't allow anyone to help support me. Thank God I changed my thinking and allowed my family and friends to be my support. I am in a much better frame of mind this time around. I know that I will get through it. Just need some answers. I will let you know more after I visit with the ENTs. I selected two for starters. I have one appointment on Thursday and the next one on the following Monday. Thanks for the HUGE HUGS. I am sending them back to you. Give your kids kisses from me, too.

    Anita
  • Hondo
    Hondo Member Posts: 6,636 Member
    ajerger said:

    Thank you.
    Thank you, Elizabeth. After doing some preliminary research on here earlier this week, I identified you as someone I needed to talk to. Thank you very much for giving me the detailed information. I can really empathize with you on having the children at home during treatment. My daughter was 2 when I was diagnosed with thyroid cancer. That was 19 years ago and we are very close. We had some rough times over the years and some family therapy because she couldn't understand why I had to send her to her grandparents following radioactive iodine treatments. I also thought I could do it all by myself and didn't allow anyone to help support me. Thank God I changed my thinking and allowed my family and friends to be my support. I am in a much better frame of mind this time around. I know that I will get through it. Just need some answers. I will let you know more after I visit with the ENTs. I selected two for starters. I have one appointment on Thursday and the next one on the following Monday. Thanks for the HUGE HUGS. I am sending them back to you. Give your kids kisses from me, too.

    Anita

    Hi Anita
    Will keep you in prayer Thursday and the Monday following.

    God bless and be with you while in His workshop.
    Hondo
  • Krausdri
    Krausdri Member Posts: 1
    edited December 2020 #16
    Treatment facilities

    I was diagnosed  with MEC in September, spot on roof of my mouth. I had surgery 3weeks ago and am making good progress. There is still a question on a small spot that may or may not have some cancer cells present. These would be too small to be seen on any tests. I could do rather surgery and have a hole into sinus/nose and would have to use prosthetic/obdurator. Second option, radiation. Third monitor. I am 71 and female. I am fairly comfortable with my current treatment providers but wondered where I might find a list of treatment facilities/groups who specialize in MEC. Wondering if anyone knows of any listings or rankings. Thank you. Ginny

  • ERomanO
    ERomanO Member Posts: 317 Member
    edited December 2020 #17
    Krausdri said:

    Treatment facilities

    I was diagnosed  with MEC in September, spot on roof of my mouth. I had surgery 3weeks ago and am making good progress. There is still a question on a small spot that may or may not have some cancer cells present. These would be too small to be seen on any tests. I could do rather surgery and have a hole into sinus/nose and would have to use prosthetic/obdurator. Second option, radiation. Third monitor. I am 71 and female. I am fairly comfortable with my current treatment providers but wondered where I might find a list of treatment facilities/groups who specialize in MEC. Wondering if anyone knows of any listings or rankings. Thank you. Ginny

    Welcome, Krausdri

    I just wanted to point out that this is an old thread from 2011.  It's best to start a new thread to instroduce yourself and explain your situation.  That way you'll get many more responses.