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jim and i
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OK I am freaking out. Pam M said people can be doing fine and have an artery rupture. This is new and scarry side effect I have never heard about. Where did you hear this Pam? Doctor or friend? Does anyone else know someone who had an artery rupture?

Debbie

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I don't believe it's common and I believe it also has something to do with the type of cancer...not positive.

There was a fellow (debbieg5's husband - Ken)on here a few months ago that passed away with the same thing.

It's not something to be consumed with, there's potential for a lot of things to happen...best one is being cured and not having anything other than a longer life than you would have if you decided on no treatment.

BTW, I don't think either the Ken, nor Nicole were doing fine...I think they were both unfortunately having some related issues with the disease.

The other's that were on that post (debbieg5), mentioned neck breather's (those with stoma), not sure of all of the specifics.

Best,
John

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jim and i
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Thanks John for the positive thoughts. It is getting close to treatment end and I guess I am getting jumpy. Seems like Jim has had so many setbacks I didn't want to hear about something else thst was so final.

Deep Breath....That's better.

5 more Rads and 1 more Erbetox to go!!

Debbie

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Skiffin16
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Getting near the end.....

It won't be long until he starts feeling better....always a little room for depression in there because you tend to think as soon as you're finished you should start immediately feeling better.

It doesn't work that way as you are still cooking from the rads and the toll the chemo has taken on the body.

So get him a lot of rest and slooooowly he'll start feeling better, eating a little more and getting settled into his new normal.

Best,
John

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luv4lacrosse
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John said it right.

I am also a big believer in taking care of what you can control, and roll with the rest.

It will all work out.

Glass is always half full!!

Best!!

Mike

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D Lewis
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It is called "carotid blow-out" and some sources cite it as one of the potential side effects of certain types of treatment for head-neck cancer, including radical neck dissection where the cancer has spread outside of the nodes, and where the cancer has wrapped itself around the carotid artery and has been surgically dissected away from the artery.

In my approximately 1 1/2 year experience here, perhaps three or four folks who posted have had immediate experience with loss of a family member to this side effect.

I would guess that most doctors would prefer not to describe this very rare potential side effect with their patients. It's hard enough to deal with the other aspects of this disease and treatment.

Deb

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Hondo
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Don’t let it worry you, I took radiation twice to the same area and location and the last time my doctor checked I have no artery problems. Like John said there are a lot of other factors involved in artery rupturing.

Keep strong and keep believing God will do the rest
Hondo

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mswijiknyc
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That is one case, the other is where the cancer eats the artery. As long as treatment is working, and a radical neck dissection wasn't done, this is not something you have to worry about.

My husband had both the surgery to remove the tumor wrapped around his artery during his laryngectomy and dissection, and when the cancer returned it ate through his artery and he bled out. But I can assure you that this does not happen with any regularity. It's one of the side affects listed waaaaaay at the bottom of the list as things to worry about, and from what I have read from your responses in this thread, you have nothing to worry about with this.

Deep breath. It's all good :)

Loves and Hugs,
April

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mswijiknyc
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stupid internet - double post

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mswijiknyc
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^%#%#!!!! - triple - my bad

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Very sorry for the freak-out. The way I see it, it's not something to spend much thought on. Can't recall where I saw the blow out mentioned besides here, but I do recall it was cited as a rare occurrance. I do know that my rad doc has never had a patient that went through it, and he's not a youngin. Again, apologies for adding to the stress bucket.

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This is one article about surgery. But I don't see any about getting ultrasounds or ?? to check risk.. I have trouble with putting links here, below are 2 options to try.

Article on prevention of carotid blow out

Sternocleidomastoid muscle interposition to prevent carotid artery blowout.
Pathak KA, Viallet NR, Nason RW.
Source

Department of Surgery, Cancer Care Manitoba, University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada. alok.pathak@cancercare.mb.ca

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staceya
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OK..you are going to have to show me how to do the linking....

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sweetblood22
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Stacey, I sent you a message on FB on how to do the links. I just keep the one I sent you in my notes, and then I insert the new link I want in the first part, and what I want it to say, in the second part. If you don't understand what I sent, just let me know, and I will explain it another way. Or maybe John can do a better job. Lol.

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Skiffin16
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Like Dawn, I have a copy in a text file on my computers. I just change the http target and link name, and sometimes change the color or size.

John

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From reading these articles and research I am less worried. It seems that this is mostly a side effect of neck disection, which Jim did not have.

Debbie

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Hondo
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When I first heard about this I too was very concerned being I had radiation twice to the same area and on the neck. But after doing some research and asking my heart doctor about it I too realize there was a one and a million chance of it happening, just wish it was so for others.

God bless
Hondo

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