health and Wellness
Right now I am looking for a good recipe book, for healthy simple foods. I need to add fiber as I have had to rely on OTC things to keep me regular. (had bum surgery after chemo) (again results not typical) but not one for really "involved" cooking. I also want to improve the terrain for my family.
anyway my current change will be to add green tea to my diet, I dont really like it, but it is supposed to be helpful. and to increase my aerobic exersize as it shown to be helpful as well. (I have sore painful feet from PN) but it has been proven to help and so I feel it is a non negotiable. I also do pilates which I love. I take Vit D and B6 supplements. Anyway sorry about the long post, but it seems alot of great advice gets posted on random threads and not everyone gets to see them. It also will be helpful for us to feel impowered in our health. Penny
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Penny,
For the aerobics, if
Penny,
For the aerobics, if there is a gym or health club near you that offers water aerobics you might try it. It is so less impactive and does the aerobic bit for you. I did this years ago and it was great. I just joined a new gym with my daughter and will be starting it again. I am also riding a stationary bike and taking an afro cuban belly dance class. I am slowly losing some weight and I do eat more plants, less meat and am cutting out most of my bad snacking. But once or twice a week I have an ice cream cone. The cone keeps me from eating too much ice cream (I can only pile it so high) LOL I am not doing this so much for the cancer as for my general health. I tend to be one of those people who loses weight, does great and then slowly it all comes back. I used to beat myself up over this pattern but now I just get back on the horse and try again. I just find as I age it all gets a little harder but I won't give up. I will get myself in better shape (sooner or later).
I take meds for cholesterol, high blood pressure, diabetes (2 types), arimidex, vitamin D, calcium, and I drink milk daily (which I am not fond of). My hope is that when I get this extra ?? pounds off I will be able to go off of most of these meds. We shall see.
Good to see you being proactive with your health.
Stef0 -
Penny -
My oncologist is very much into the holistic aspects of treating BC. My radiation oncologist works with my onc (and I believe has also had breasy cancer herself from some of her comments. Most of my radiation oncology appointments were teaching sessions on exercise, supplements, etc. The exercise everyone seems to agree on and I just started again since finishing rads (stationary bike and walking). I am also dieting although this seems a bit hard post-chemo and Arimidex. On the supplement front, both docs are big on the D3 and want my blood elevels between 40-60 which are checked every 3 months. They also told me to take fish oil and multi-vits (I also take other supplements now that I have finished chemo because I have always taken them like C, E, Calcium, glucosamine chondroitin). I am also on the green tea kick but don't like the taste so I am taking the green tea pills. On the DO NOT side, I was told black cohosh, soy (they said dietary soy was OK but no soy supplements - I still try to avoid all of them) and flaxseed. I'm just trying to find my way as to what makes me feel better and makes me healthier and I have my onc check my lsit every 3 months so she can veto anything she doesn't like (like my Benadry I used to take at night:(0 -
Trying to stay wellfauxma said:Penny,
For the aerobics, if
Penny,
For the aerobics, if there is a gym or health club near you that offers water aerobics you might try it. It is so less impactive and does the aerobic bit for you. I did this years ago and it was great. I just joined a new gym with my daughter and will be starting it again. I am also riding a stationary bike and taking an afro cuban belly dance class. I am slowly losing some weight and I do eat more plants, less meat and am cutting out most of my bad snacking. But once or twice a week I have an ice cream cone. The cone keeps me from eating too much ice cream (I can only pile it so high) LOL I am not doing this so much for the cancer as for my general health. I tend to be one of those people who loses weight, does great and then slowly it all comes back. I used to beat myself up over this pattern but now I just get back on the horse and try again. I just find as I age it all gets a little harder but I won't give up. I will get myself in better shape (sooner or later).
I take meds for cholesterol, high blood pressure, diabetes (2 types), arimidex, vitamin D, calcium, and I drink milk daily (which I am not fond of). My hope is that when I get this extra ?? pounds off I will be able to go off of most of these meds. We shall see.
Good to see you being proactive with your health.
Stef
My goal is to stay as well as possible until the cancer finally takes me down (stage IV--but hopefully we can control it for a long time). So far, drug therapy has slowed the disease, so recent PET scan shows my organs remain clear. I just finished 10 rounds of rads to my left upper arm and lumbar spine area, and so far, no side effects.
In the past few years I've been leaning toward healthier diet and more exercise, so when I got the DX, it was not difficult to make more changes for the better. Cancer likes sugar, so even though I'm not diabetic, I've been following the diabetic diet. It just seems to me to be a common sense way to eat. I do not use artificial sweeteners, though. Hate them. I use stevia instead. A natural food store in town (60 mi. away), sells it in a 1# canister. Not cheap, but just 1/8 tsp adds as much sweetness as a teaspoon of sugar. Very pleasant tasting.
I also have meat only once a day, if at all, and no more than 4 oz. I love seafood, so in a typical week, more than half of my protein is satisfied that way. Whole grains, nuts and beans are also a large part of my diet. Fresh fruits and veggies round things out. The July visit with my primary doctor shows my cholesterol is "borderline high" at 230. I'm seeing her next week to see what we can do to bring it down. I don't want to add more drugs to my system, so I'm hoping she'll start with diet and exercise.
I walk when I can, and use a mini-trampoline otherwise.0 -
Flaxseedgreyhoundluvr said:Penny -
My oncologist is very much into the holistic aspects of treating BC. My radiation oncologist works with my onc (and I believe has also had breasy cancer herself from some of her comments. Most of my radiation oncology appointments were teaching sessions on exercise, supplements, etc. The exercise everyone seems to agree on and I just started again since finishing rads (stationary bike and walking). I am also dieting although this seems a bit hard post-chemo and Arimidex. On the supplement front, both docs are big on the D3 and want my blood elevels between 40-60 which are checked every 3 months. They also told me to take fish oil and multi-vits (I also take other supplements now that I have finished chemo because I have always taken them like C, E, Calcium, glucosamine chondroitin). I am also on the green tea kick but don't like the taste so I am taking the green tea pills. On the DO NOT side, I was told black cohosh, soy (they said dietary soy was OK but no soy supplements - I still try to avoid all of them) and flaxseed. I'm just trying to find my way as to what makes me feel better and makes me healthier and I have my onc check my lsit every 3 months so she can veto anything she doesn't like (like my Benadry I used to take at night:(
Why is flaxseed on the DO NOT list?0 -
I had readm_azingrace said:Flaxseed
Why is flaxseed on the DO NOT list?
about the controversies with flaxseed and breast cancer before I met with her so I didn't ask a lot of questions. But she basically said that like soy products, they contain phytoestrogens (plant estrogens) that can mimic female estrogen in the body (which I shoudl avoid since I am ER/PR+). Like with the soy, she said not to be obsessive about what I normally get in my diet but not to take any as a supplement. Crazy, huh?? You see all these stories about it being good to prevent breast cancer and being a healthy food but I guess until they decide one way or the other, I'll stay away from it....0 -
Benedryl?greyhoundluvr said:Penny -
My oncologist is very much into the holistic aspects of treating BC. My radiation oncologist works with my onc (and I believe has also had breasy cancer herself from some of her comments. Most of my radiation oncology appointments were teaching sessions on exercise, supplements, etc. The exercise everyone seems to agree on and I just started again since finishing rads (stationary bike and walking). I am also dieting although this seems a bit hard post-chemo and Arimidex. On the supplement front, both docs are big on the D3 and want my blood elevels between 40-60 which are checked every 3 months. They also told me to take fish oil and multi-vits (I also take other supplements now that I have finished chemo because I have always taken them like C, E, Calcium, glucosamine chondroitin). I am also on the green tea kick but don't like the taste so I am taking the green tea pills. On the DO NOT side, I was told black cohosh, soy (they said dietary soy was OK but no soy supplements - I still try to avoid all of them) and flaxseed. I'm just trying to find my way as to what makes me feel better and makes me healthier and I have my onc check my lsit every 3 months so she can veto anything she doesn't like (like my Benadry I used to take at night:(
What about benedryl? I have taken it every night for several years.
MerleBee0 -
I try sometimesMerleBee said:Benedryl?
What about benedryl? I have taken it every night for several years.
MerleBee
unsuccessfully to eat healthy. I even started to see a naturapathic dr last year. He put me on proteins and veggies. He didn't want me to start fruit until blood glucose was below 100. I lost 25#s in 4 months but craved carbs. Since mid April I put back on all 25#s. Steroids make me very bloated and I have had no nausea, hence I'm still snacking mindlessly. That's my downfall, no routine to my life for the past 3 years since quitting my job.
I just asked my oncologist last week about going back on Fish oil, Flaxseed oil and Glucosamine/Chondroiton. He said yes to 2 and NO to flaxseed. He told me they don't know enough about how it interacts with chemo treatment. Fortunately for me I eat enough fiber and drink lots of water not to have constipation issues. I can't wait to get rid of these excess pounds. Good thing I hadn't gotten rid of my bigger clothes but I could scream because I have to wear them again. I had changed 2 sizes!
Char0 -
Green teacahjah75 said:I try sometimes
unsuccessfully to eat healthy. I even started to see a naturapathic dr last year. He put me on proteins and veggies. He didn't want me to start fruit until blood glucose was below 100. I lost 25#s in 4 months but craved carbs. Since mid April I put back on all 25#s. Steroids make me very bloated and I have had no nausea, hence I'm still snacking mindlessly. That's my downfall, no routine to my life for the past 3 years since quitting my job.
I just asked my oncologist last week about going back on Fish oil, Flaxseed oil and Glucosamine/Chondroiton. He said yes to 2 and NO to flaxseed. He told me they don't know enough about how it interacts with chemo treatment. Fortunately for me I eat enough fiber and drink lots of water not to have constipation issues. I can't wait to get rid of these excess pounds. Good thing I hadn't gotten rid of my bigger clothes but I could scream because I have to wear them again. I had changed 2 sizes!
Char
After reading Anticancer, I also jumped on the green tea bandwagon, and try to shoot for 3-5 cups per day.
Like you, Penny, I also don't like the taste of green tea, so the key for me is to drink flavored varieties. I found I like Republic of Tea the best -- their Honey Ginseng, Wild Berry, and Pomegranate are my favorites. I order from their website (republicoftea.com) -- just got my latest order today!
I found out the hard way to only buy decaf varieties. I don't normally drink much caffeine, and jumped in all gung ho into this green tea thing, forgetting that tea has caffeine. After 5 cups in a day -- ZZZTT! I was like an electric maniac, until I figured out what was causing it. Decaf -- a much better way to go for me!
Also, like Gracie, I've switched to stevia in my tea. I buy something called Stevia in the Raw from my grocery store, so luckily don't have to go hunting in special stores for it.
Traci0 -
I too drink green teaTraciInLA said:Green tea
After reading Anticancer, I also jumped on the green tea bandwagon, and try to shoot for 3-5 cups per day.
Like you, Penny, I also don't like the taste of green tea, so the key for me is to drink flavored varieties. I found I like Republic of Tea the best -- their Honey Ginseng, Wild Berry, and Pomegranate are my favorites. I order from their website (republicoftea.com) -- just got my latest order today!
I found out the hard way to only buy decaf varieties. I don't normally drink much caffeine, and jumped in all gung ho into this green tea thing, forgetting that tea has caffeine. After 5 cups in a day -- ZZZTT! I was like an electric maniac, until I figured out what was causing it. Decaf -- a much better way to go for me!
Also, like Gracie, I've switched to stevia in my tea. I buy something called Stevia in the Raw from my grocery store, so luckily don't have to go hunting in special stores for it.
Traci
and use Stevia occasionally. My favorite is Just Green Tea (iced). I like organic green tea w/ginger too.
Char0 -
Afro-Cuban bellydance?fauxma said:Penny,
For the aerobics, if
Penny,
For the aerobics, if there is a gym or health club near you that offers water aerobics you might try it. It is so less impactive and does the aerobic bit for you. I did this years ago and it was great. I just joined a new gym with my daughter and will be starting it again. I am also riding a stationary bike and taking an afro cuban belly dance class. I am slowly losing some weight and I do eat more plants, less meat and am cutting out most of my bad snacking. But once or twice a week I have an ice cream cone. The cone keeps me from eating too much ice cream (I can only pile it so high) LOL I am not doing this so much for the cancer as for my general health. I tend to be one of those people who loses weight, does great and then slowly it all comes back. I used to beat myself up over this pattern but now I just get back on the horse and try again. I just find as I age it all gets a little harder but I won't give up. I will get myself in better shape (sooner or later).
I take meds for cholesterol, high blood pressure, diabetes (2 types), arimidex, vitamin D, calcium, and I drink milk daily (which I am not fond of). My hope is that when I get this extra ?? pounds off I will be able to go off of most of these meds. We shall see.
Good to see you being proactive with your health.
Stef
Stef, I've been bellydancing for several years, and, before my diganosis, used to go to festivals -- heck, it's LA, I thought I'd seen it all!
But Afro-Cuban bellydance? Que interesante -- do tell!
Traci0 -
Dr. Oz
This was on the Dr. Oz show today:
See: http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/5-foods-starve-cancer
Disturbing new research suggests that microscopic cancer, small cancer cells that can only been seen under a microscope, is widely prevalent. A recent study of women in their 40s indicated that 40% of them had microscopic breast cancer. Even more shocking, almost 100% of people in their 70s will have microscopic cancer in their thyroid glands.
A microscopic tumor can grow up to 16,000 times its original size in as little as 2 weeks. But new groundbreaking research from The Angiogenesis Foundation proposes that you can stop cancer before it begins to grow. This new preventive approach is called anti-angiogenesis. To learn more about anti-angiogenesis and the groundbreaking research at The Angiogenesis Foundation, click here. Anti-angiogenesis encourages that, by changing the way you eat, you can change your “internal environment,” thereby depriving cancer cells the opportunity to grow and multiply.
Certain foods, eaten in the correct portions and frequency, can provide cancer-starving benefits. Below are 5 foods to eat that can prevent cancer growth:
1.Bok Choy This type of Chinese cabbage contains brassinin; a powerful cancer-fighter, also found in broccoli, cauliflower and Brussels sprouts. Bok Choy should be eaten 3 times a week, in 1/2 cup servings to obtain its full benefits.
2.Cooked Tomatoes have more cancer-fighting properties than raw tomatoes. Both contain the molecule lycopene, but heating the tomato changes its chemical structure and makes the benefits more readily available to your body. You should eat 2-3 (1/2 cup) servings of cooked tomatoes a week.
3.Flounder This fish is rich in omega-3 fatty acids and low in mercury. Three 6-ounce servings a week is ideal.
4.Strawberries The antioxidants in this berry help fight cancers. You should eat 1 cup a day, including the juice.
5.Artichokes contain 3 different cancer-fighting molecules. Enjoy ¼ cup of hearts per day.0 -
PennyCypressCynthia said:Dr. Oz
This was on the Dr. Oz show today:
See: http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/5-foods-starve-cancer
Disturbing new research suggests that microscopic cancer, small cancer cells that can only been seen under a microscope, is widely prevalent. A recent study of women in their 40s indicated that 40% of them had microscopic breast cancer. Even more shocking, almost 100% of people in their 70s will have microscopic cancer in their thyroid glands.
A microscopic tumor can grow up to 16,000 times its original size in as little as 2 weeks. But new groundbreaking research from The Angiogenesis Foundation proposes that you can stop cancer before it begins to grow. This new preventive approach is called anti-angiogenesis. To learn more about anti-angiogenesis and the groundbreaking research at The Angiogenesis Foundation, click here. Anti-angiogenesis encourages that, by changing the way you eat, you can change your “internal environment,” thereby depriving cancer cells the opportunity to grow and multiply.
Certain foods, eaten in the correct portions and frequency, can provide cancer-starving benefits. Below are 5 foods to eat that can prevent cancer growth:
1.Bok Choy This type of Chinese cabbage contains brassinin; a powerful cancer-fighter, also found in broccoli, cauliflower and Brussels sprouts. Bok Choy should be eaten 3 times a week, in 1/2 cup servings to obtain its full benefits.
2.Cooked Tomatoes have more cancer-fighting properties than raw tomatoes. Both contain the molecule lycopene, but heating the tomato changes its chemical structure and makes the benefits more readily available to your body. You should eat 2-3 (1/2 cup) servings of cooked tomatoes a week.
3.Flounder This fish is rich in omega-3 fatty acids and low in mercury. Three 6-ounce servings a week is ideal.
4.Strawberries The antioxidants in this berry help fight cancers. You should eat 1 cup a day, including the juice.
5.Artichokes contain 3 different cancer-fighting molecules. Enjoy ¼ cup of hearts per day.
In an effort to eat better, I signed up for "Recipe of the Week" from
caring4cancer.com . It is free and I've received about 12 of them - and
not used one! I'm a very picky eater, I like beef, chicken, pork, turkey,
ham, green beans, corn, peas, potatoes and JUNK. That's about it. If you like
more variety than I, you may get some ideas you like. Just go to the website I
mentioned and sign up, they'll E-mail you a recipe every week.
Good luck in your endeavors!
Marsha0 -
Anti cancer uses many of theMarsha Mulvey said:Penny
In an effort to eat better, I signed up for "Recipe of the Week" from
caring4cancer.com . It is free and I've received about 12 of them - and
not used one! I'm a very picky eater, I like beef, chicken, pork, turkey,
ham, green beans, corn, peas, potatoes and JUNK. That's about it. If you like
more variety than I, you may get some ideas you like. Just go to the website I
mentioned and sign up, they'll E-mail you a recipe every week.
Good luck in your endeavors!
Marsha
Anti cancer uses many of the principals you mention CC. thanks for the tea suggestion Traci, because since chemo when my resting heart rate was 131, I do not use caffeine and green tea without is hard to find. I did have my friend switch from splenda to stevia.I dont use sugar in my tea but may need to add the stevia to the green tea.
At Dana Farber they told me to avoid, tomatoes in cans, as the acid in the tomatoes can interact with the lining of the can releasing BPA/s. I think if the cans are lined with the plastic. Its a bummer with the flaxseed as I need to find a good soource of Omega 3's. I dont like to eat too much mercury containing fish, but am allergic to tuna so fish oil supplememnts are out. Thanks for the flounder tip. I will look at the site Marsha.
I did some aerobic stuff today, and pilates. I will look into the water thing, but wearing a bathing suit Not so much. LOL I have lost a ton of weight. but when you lose it fast the more clothes the better trust me LOL.
My friend a person trainer, helps me with the pilates and we talk about food, so our new mantra is "improving our terrain" I know I will feel better, as I do with the changes I have already made, regardless if it helps the cancer. Anyway I posted this not just for me but for us a ll as we try to recover, maintain, or reach toward our own level of wellness.0 -
I think it is just a blendTraciInLA said:Afro-Cuban bellydance?
Stef, I've been bellydancing for several years, and, before my diganosis, used to go to festivals -- heck, it's LA, I thought I'd seen it all!
But Afro-Cuban bellydance? Que interesante -- do tell!
Traci
I think it is just a blend of Latin moves and African dance moves that also incorporate belly rolls etc. My daughter is a belly dancer. She has danced with Urban Tribal out of San Diego and toured through several cites (until she was 7 months pregnant), and she hada troupe in Arcata Real Hip (I think) and another one in San Francisco. She is really good and is a great choreographer. She makes many of her costumes. She hadn't been dancing for the last few years but is starting to get back into it. She encouraged me to do this class and it is fun but I am pretty hopeless but I keep moving. There are so many styles of belly dance and I find it fasinating. We went up to Santa Rosa to a festival where her old troupe from San Diego was performing. I especially liked one troupe that has a goth/steam punk look to their costumes and dance style but I also love the traditional. Wouldn't it be funny if you had been to a festival where she performed. Did you perform at the festivals? Such a small world.
Stef
Oh, it's Afro Belly Boogie. See I really don't know what I am doing.0 -
Penny, great topic I docarkris said:Anti cancer uses many of the
Anti cancer uses many of the principals you mention CC. thanks for the tea suggestion Traci, because since chemo when my resting heart rate was 131, I do not use caffeine and green tea without is hard to find. I did have my friend switch from splenda to stevia.I dont use sugar in my tea but may need to add the stevia to the green tea.
At Dana Farber they told me to avoid, tomatoes in cans, as the acid in the tomatoes can interact with the lining of the can releasing BPA/s. I think if the cans are lined with the plastic. Its a bummer with the flaxseed as I need to find a good soource of Omega 3's. I dont like to eat too much mercury containing fish, but am allergic to tuna so fish oil supplememnts are out. Thanks for the flounder tip. I will look at the site Marsha.
I did some aerobic stuff today, and pilates. I will look into the water thing, but wearing a bathing suit Not so much. LOL I have lost a ton of weight. but when you lose it fast the more clothes the better trust me LOL.
My friend a person trainer, helps me with the pilates and we talk about food, so our new mantra is "improving our terrain" I know I will feel better, as I do with the changes I have already made, regardless if it helps the cancer. Anyway I posted this not just for me but for us a ll as we try to recover, maintain, or reach toward our own level of wellness.
I have made some changes: foods, stress,and positive attitude. It does not mean that I did everything wrong but I have different life vision now. When I finished invasive treatment I was looking for a life coach, could not find one and have been my own coach.
No processed foods, no sugar (just natural honey), no white flour
Hugs everyone0 -
went to the gym and walkedNew Flower said:Penny, great topic I do
I have made some changes: foods, stress,and positive attitude. It does not mean that I did everything wrong but I have different life vision now. When I finished invasive treatment I was looking for a life coach, could not find one and have been my own coach.
No processed foods, no sugar (just natural honey), no white flour
Hugs everyone
went to the gym and walked and did some leg presses. they say 30 min of exersize can reduce your risk of recurrence by 50 percent, i hear this from many sources. so i am going to make an attempt!!!!!! ordering green tea tonight!!! P.S. I know it doesnt guarantee anything but I feel better mentally and that enhances my daily life.0 -
No guarantees...carkris said:went to the gym and walked
went to the gym and walked and did some leg presses. they say 30 min of exersize can reduce your risk of recurrence by 50 percent, i hear this from many sources. so i am going to make an attempt!!!!!! ordering green tea tonight!!! P.S. I know it doesnt guarantee anything but I feel better mentally and that enhances my daily life.
Penny, I agree that adopting healthy habits won't guarantee anything, but I too feel so much more positive about my recovery and my future when I'm being proactive and DOing something that a) can't hurt me (like green tea) or b) will certainly help my overall health in general (like exercise and eating more fruits and vegetables).
Did you order tea from Republic of Tea? Let me know how you like their flavors!
Traci0 -
yes Traci thanks for theTraciInLA said:No guarantees...
Penny, I agree that adopting healthy habits won't guarantee anything, but I too feel so much more positive about my recovery and my future when I'm being proactive and DOing something that a) can't hurt me (like green tea) or b) will certainly help my overall health in general (like exercise and eating more fruits and vegetables).
Did you order tea from Republic of Tea? Let me know how you like their flavors!
Traci
yes Traci thanks for the info. I got two decaf flavors and the tumeric ginger. I agree with you as well. I think if I generally feel better, it just makes everything better. I too have to feel I am doing everything I can. Things that make sense. I just have to be careful to not expect too much from myself. so small baby steps.0 -
What is about family?carkris said:yes Traci thanks for the
yes Traci thanks for the info. I got two decaf flavors and the tumeric ginger. I agree with you as well. I think if I generally feel better, it just makes everything better. I too have to feel I am doing everything I can. Things that make sense. I just have to be careful to not expect too much from myself. so small baby steps.
My Hubby still eats candies, sweets, cakes and drinks a lot of coffee. It is very difficult to resist, especially when we go out. He also does not have interest in joining GYM, however always accompanies me in hiking and walking. How do you encourge your family members to follow your step in healthy lifestyle?
Hugs0
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