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laurissa
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Are the nails the last to go? The white tips are getting lower and lower as they are lifting off the nailbed. It's not painful, just looks nasty. I have to keep filing them down. My chemo was done in January and this just started a few weeks ago. Lashes and brows are still holding on, half of them anyway. Anyone else having nail problems? When do they start growing back healthy?

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natly15
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Mine are breaking but havent lifted off the nailbed. I sure hope they dont start lifting.

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Skeezie
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across the nail. So far they have grown to 2/3 of the nail. Some nails have flaking on some of the ridges and where the nail has grown out it's a funny white color. And half of the nail closest to the nail bed is a lighter pink, almost white. I am keeping Nail Envy by Opi (3 and 4 coats) on the nails and that helps fill in the ridges and flakes. It almost seems as tho some of the new growth by the nail bed is smooth without any ridges. I can almost count 4 ridges, one for each chemo treatment. They don't hurt and don't seem to be lifting. Toenails are normal. I finished chemo 12-11.

Judy :-)

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carkris
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nails keep breaking not lifting so far. very fragile. cant open a soda can or anything, I use the nail polish as well. I wonder how long this goes on for. Maybe when the waether is better, this is just a little worse than the winter breakage from the dryness in the house. also nail beds are darker and thumb has some red streaks.

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angel46
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Just went to my Podi. cuz three of my toe nails on R side have fallen off, just like yours. I finished chemo Dec. 1st. started turning white at the bottom lifted and fell off. He said just keep them filed like you are doing, it happens with chemo and they will grow back. I hate that cuz I'm going on a much needed cruise next month,and and I got ugly feet:( oh well, guess we can't be pretty every where...the ugly got to come out somewhere...HA HA. Angel

prv
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I finished taxol 12/8/09 and have had alot of trouble with my nails since. I had several nails with sub nail bleeding and lost a great toenail just last week. All other nails have lifted off nailbed and look awful and are hard to keep clean. My onc doc says that they will grow back though.
Hang in there!
prv

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VickiSam
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nails and toe nails, from what my ono and staff states. My finger nails look UGLY, and ready to fall off at a moments notice. I try to file weekly - a few have lifted. Bleed with I'm in too much water .. Did I mention my hands look UGLY ..

I've tried keeping vit E on them, and switch over to tree tea several times a week. Oh well, just another nasty side effort of chemo.

VickiSam

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Alexis F
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I am so sorry Laurissa for all that you women that had chemo have to deal with.

Sending you big hugs!

Lex♥

LynnPlatt
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Angel 46, go to a nail tech that applies acrylic overlays. They can build you toe nails that look natural and will stay on long enough for your cruise. My sister had to have a toe nail removed from the root because of being ingrown all the time. I build her a toe nail all summer long so she can wear sandals and have nice toes. Use lots of cuticle oil on nails and cuticles. It helps to keep them moist. It also keeps them from getting soft from absorbing water. I am a nail tech so I learned a lot from trial and error on my own nails. I have been doing nails for 10 yrs and do my own.Call if you have questions, 620-344-5104.

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pinkkari09
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Ah you guys are scaring me!! I finished chemo 1-14-10, had surgery 2-11-10 (Both ovaries, bilateral with latissimus dorsi recon.), start rads 3-15-10 and your saying I could still lose my nails, YIKES! What do I look for and what do I do??
~Kari

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sausageroll
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Unfortunately, there is not much you can do. I lost all my nails during chemo. I finished last March and still have some nail problems. During chemo, I would loose all the skin on my hands and that has not completely gone away, although it is not as bad.
I guess the main thing when nails come off is to keep the areas really clean and protect your toes with soft shoes.

Good luck!

Sharon_D
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Maybe we could bring back the "Michael Jackson Silver Glove Look"!!

My nails are full of ridges from tip to cuticle but they start breaking from side to side just far enough back that you can't trim them without cutting half your finger off. However, one thumb nail split right down the middle. Now how do you trim that one?

Man, isn't chemo an adventure??

Anyone's ears fell off yet?? LOL

Weezie2010
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Sharon, wow I would not have thought it possible to laugh so hard on a bc discussion board. thank you!

Sharon_D
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Weezie, now you're getting to know me. ;-)

dash4
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Sharon,
Thanks for the laughter...my endorphins are healing me already!
mk

survivorbc09
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Sharon, you have a great sense of humor! Thanks!

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Megan M
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LOL Sharon!

LynnPlatt
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You don't trim them. Go to like Sally Beauty and get some silk strips and some brush on nail glue. Apply the strip to clean nail over split and apply the glue. Let dry. You can use several layers of silk and then the glue. It will work as a bandage on the nail. Buff out roughness with a soft grit buffing block, 240 grit. You will not see the silk, it will look just like a natural nail. Ask the sales person at the store for help. I use Sally Beauty because there are so many and they go through training for this. A good nail tech should be able to help too. If you have questions call me at 620-344-5104.

MAJW
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I was warned at the very beginning of chemo to take extra good care of my nails and toenails...I used Sally Hansen Triple strength faithfully and on my toesnails too.....My nails grew rock hard,very tick. I actually had to cut them in addition to filing them weekly.....Now, I did and still do have the ridges, I finished chemo the end of August 09..so that's 7 months.....my two big toenails look AWFUL....they are yellowed and have dark spots under them......I just keep polish on the ugly looking things! I never lost any fingernails or toesnails...I keep the nails polished also. I was told it would take about a year from everything to return to normal as the nails have to grow completely out..I can see a big difference in the nails at the nail bed and half way out......It's just another of what I call "chemo, the gift that keeps on giving!"
Best to you all

dash4
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Which chemos cause the nail problems?
mk

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laurissa
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I was on cytoxin and taxotere. I'm now having a painful middle finger. Getting hang nails and catching on things. I'll be wearing bandaids pretty soon.

laynie
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I was on taxotere and finished Feb. 10th. One of my finger nails turned yellow and the finger tip swelled WAY up. They gave me antibiotics, which didn't do anything. Now I'm on anti-fungal meds, which seem to have reduced the swelling. That nail just fell off, but now 7 of the others have turned yellow and red and loosened from the nail bed. They all smell terrible, too! Now the toenails are slightly yellow. Did this happen- the smell, discharge from under the nail etc.?

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Kathy09
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Just as you described they still are about 1/2 done seems like they are drying up. My lst chem was oct. 09. 8 of 10 nails still look bad. Toes nails not so bad, they say to keep your hands out of water....right.... I figure thats why my toes arn't in as bad of shape.

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Kat11
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my nail went south about 2 months after chemo ended. I had AC and the Taxol. The turned black and blue and hurt really bad. Then they turned white and have white lines that split now and tear. I also used product all the time to keep the strong but it did not work. I have used tea tree oil which helps with the dryness a bit. Lost 2 toe nail. Still waiting for all to come back to normal.

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Sher43009
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I finished chemo (4 A/C, 1 Taxol) last Oct. and my toe nails are still red, with horizontal ridges and lifting. I hope they grow out soon. Both hands and feet are very dry and peel. And now I'm on my second set of eyelashes. I've had 7 of 17 herceptins every 3 weeks so I don't know if it's from that or not. I'm also on Tamoxefin so life is fun with all these new side effects! I've been told it takes one year from the end of treatment to stop getting side effects from that treatment.

laynie
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I think you're right about the water. Its pretty much impossible to keep them dry all of the time. I took a lot of baths during treatment, and I'm wondering if this is what caused this "rare" side effect. Mine seem to be drying up as well now. One and a half fell off.

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blazytracy
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sorry this is so late but wanted to add my 2 cents in here. I have had fake nails since 1992!! And I certainly did not quit during chemo. I noticed absolutely zero difference in my nails - probably because I couldn't see them. They still look beautiful to this day! hahaha, I guess I cheated. I always do the pink and white.

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Marlene_K
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I did pretty much the same thing, Tracy. My nail tech suggested taking off my old tips and putting a thin layer of 'fill' over top. I have continued to do that and haven't had the slightest problems with my nails. I haven't wanted to post this because I guess I didn't want to make you feel worse, but after Tracy posted, I wanted to validate this because perhaps it holds some truth. Trial & error... we just never know what lies ahead in the way of new findings :)

laynie
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I don't know about the fake nails helping. I think you're probably just lucky. They say that the nails falling off is rare. If it is fungus (no one has confirmed that with lab tests), they say that fake nails and even nail polish are bad.

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heidijez
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omg! i am so glad i found this website - in fact i found it because i was freaking about my nails and did a search for taxotere and cytoxan side effects. it's still crappy that this is happening to me, but now i know i am not the only one (some of my friends look at me like i have done this to myself)

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laurissa
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So far I still have all my nails. The white tips have gotten lower and I hope it stops soon. Its like half of my nail is white tips, looks odd. My two big toenails are in bad shape too.

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Angie2U
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So sorry Laurissa. Hoping it does stop soon for you.

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ppurdin
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I am sorry you are going through this with your nails.That is one thing I was spared.Take care. Pat.

laynie
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Hi Laurissa. I've noticed that my loose nails actually have new nails growing underneath them. Its taken about 2 months to grow maybe an 1/8". The new nails do look healthy though.

LynnPlatt
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Laurissa, I am a nail tech going through chemo. My nail beds are turning dark and a little tender. I take a B vitamin called Biotin. I take 5000 mcg a day. It helps rebuild the Keratin in our skin, hair and nails. I do wear acrylic overlays to keep my nails strong. I also use cuticle oil on my nails and cuticles to keep them moisturized. You can also get a nail strengthner, such as Sally Hanson to put on them. Apply to coats to clean nails, apply polish and then apply strenghtner daily. Remove all coats weekly, shape with a file not an emery board, and repeat process.

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