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krisrey
krisrey Member Posts: 194
edited March 2014 in Breast Cancer #1
Thank you ALL for responding on the needle aspiration post. I am so thankful I found this site, you are all wonderful women.

Like you Live42day...I feel I owe my life to my surgeon also, even after all the results of mamo and biopsy he still wanted it out, and out NOW..I will always be grateful to him. I am in the process of switching GYN's because I feel that this doctor could have or should have suspected something. I had just gone for a yearly GYN in Jan and then I found my own lump in March. I had expressed concerns about a small brown spot on the tip of my nipple and he said it was nothing but I could go to a surgeon and have it removed if it bothered me cosmetically. Then not even two months later I find this lump on the same breast. I asked my primary care about it and he said it should have raised a red flag to the GYN, but instead he shrugged it off. When I went back to the GYN to check the lump I found, he still basically shrugged after I expressed my concerns because I had a friend that was drying of cancer in the hospital right across the street from the doctors office. Again he shrugged it off saying..you are not going to die...I just hated his whole approach to my care, so on Feb I will be seeing a new women GYN.

Sorry ladies, I don't mean to go on and on, but it sure feels good getting it off my chest.

Kris

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  • hummingbyrd
    hummingbyrd Member Posts: 950 Member
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    I hate to say it, but for the most part these doctors are so tired, and in such a rush, I don't think they are thinking. Not thoroughly enough at any rate. With my rad onc, I feel like he comes in and is thinking about the next patient, and how many after that and getting back to the hospital. This may explain how he missed a fracture to my humerus for 3 weeks, which I'm in so much pain now, I don't find it very funny at all.
    May have broke my humerus, but I still got my bizarre since of humor. ;- )
    hummer
  • ksayler
    ksayler Member Posts: 6
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    Kris,
    I had the same experience with my GYN. Had mammogram in Dec. 01...all fine. But 2 months later I found a 1.8cm lump. I called GYN to say I found a lump and office staff said she would me 4 weeks later (when I was at the proper place in my cycle...I was 50 yrs. old and on hormones...what cycle?). She said it did not feel like cancer but wanted to do an ultrasound anyway. I asked her if I should get off of the hormones...she said they were safe. HOWEVER, the day I had the ultrasound she called telling me to get off of the hormones immediately and to get to the surgeon...highly suspicious spot. That was the day all the news hit about hormones possibly causing more cancer than we knew (July 1, 2001). I realized then that she really was not the best doctor for a woman concerned with breast cancer. I believe that the surgeon and oncologist are the most experienced ones in terms of finding breast cancer. I also left her office and went to a new office because it was hard to trust her after that. I will never again believe that a GYN is the best one to see for a lump in your breast. You did the right thing, Kris. Good luck...Kathy
  • terryI
    terryI Member Posts: 43
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    Hi Kris,
    Basically had the same experience. I always get a mammogram every year well in 2002 it showed two small lumps which the radio. and my primary decided was nothing to worry about. They never even imformed me of the lumps. In August of 2003 found a 2.5cm in my left breast. Went for tests and was called at work and told to go to a surgeron asap. Tell me this was not a shock. Went to surgeon and I have to tell you so thankful I found him he is just wonderful. Now for the humor for the last 3 visits to my onco. he keeps refering to my lumpectomy and going for radiation treatments. I had a mastectomy on Aug 28, 2003 and keep telling him this. Last visit he actually checked my breasts and was shocked when he saw I had a mastectomy. So see even our specialists are so over worked and booked with patients they really don't know who we are or what our needs may be.
    I have found a midwife for my gyn she is connected with gyn's in the same office but I go to her because she is just like hummingbird very knowledgeable in alternative care. She has personally called and written me to see how I am doing with my chemo treatments. She is going to research and send me vitamins and etc. to take during my care as soon as I receive the list will post for all. So Kris keep you chin up and know at least we have each other. Thank you all ladies for being there for me.
    god bless, Terryi
  • live42day
    live42day Member Posts: 64
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    Good for you Kris! I feel that life is too short to go to a Dr. that you don't feel comfortable with. After all, we have to put such faith in their decisions about our life. I am blessed to have a good primary care physician. Who by the way, when I found the lump and called his office, he wanted to see me that day. He also said it was not something to wait a watch and got me an appointment with my surgeon that I just love. And my oncologist who told me that his prime objective was to save my life. What else could I ask for? There are good Drs out there sometimes we just have to search for them. We are all warriors in this battle.
    Janet
  • maggs
    maggs Member Posts: 164
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    I hate to say it, but for the most part these doctors are so tired, and in such a rush, I don't think they are thinking. Not thoroughly enough at any rate. With my rad onc, I feel like he comes in and is thinking about the next patient, and how many after that and getting back to the hospital. This may explain how he missed a fracture to my humerus for 3 weeks, which I'm in so much pain now, I don't find it very funny at all.
    May have broke my humerus, but I still got my bizarre since of humor. ;- )
    hummer

    HUMMINGBYRD--Are you taking calcium or calcium/magnesium supplements to strengthen your bones? You would know--would it help? I am praying for you and your brother.
  • blossomtime
    blossomtime Member Posts: 98
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    I found my lump also. I called my gyn dr. and they arranged for me to have a mammo in 3 weeks. I told them that it wasnt a tiny little bump, it was large. Actually measured 4.5 cm. To say the least I wasnt going to wait that long, so I called my pcp and had a mammo done 3 hrs later and had my mastectomy with reconstruction done 1 week later. The gynecologist never even called me back. Of course I dont know if the nurse even told her the day I called. I have continued to see this Dr. but I came to the realization that their focus is not on breasts. In fact at my next yearly (last yr)I noticed that she actually did a very poor breast exam. I agree that the surgeon is he best to do this and I see him every 6 months. But now I know what I expect in my health care and if I dont get it, I will go where I can get it. Sharon
  • hummingbyrd
    hummingbyrd Member Posts: 950 Member
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    maggs said:

    HUMMINGBYRD--Are you taking calcium or calcium/magnesium supplements to strengthen your bones? You would know--would it help? I am praying for you and your brother.

    Not specifically maggs, other than a multivitamin, and I do drink about a gallon of milk a week. Don't worry about my bones to much as I get IV Zometa every 3-4 weeks. It's a bisphosphonate which helps rebuild bones. If you are looking for a calcium supplement check with doc, not all are the same. Calcium carbonate is the best absorbed I do believe. (((HUGS)))hummb
  • inkblot
    inkblot Member Posts: 698 Member
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    Not specifically maggs, other than a multivitamin, and I do drink about a gallon of milk a week. Don't worry about my bones to much as I get IV Zometa every 3-4 weeks. It's a bisphosphonate which helps rebuild bones. If you are looking for a calcium supplement check with doc, not all are the same. Calcium carbonate is the best absorbed I do believe. (((HUGS)))hummb

    Hi Ladies and Happy New Year!

    Have been away for a bit but noticed your posts re calcium supplements and wanted to add that Calcium Citrate is the most readily absorbed form which causes less digestive upsets (constipation, etc.). However, all the Calcium in the world won't help us if we don't also take Vitamin D. Our bodies cannot utilize calcium without it.(We also get Vit. D from the sunshine but most of us don't typically have much exposure this time of the year.)

    Postmenopausal we need 1,200 mg of Calcium/day and a minimum of 400 i.u. of vitamin D/day. One other important tidbit is that our bodies cannot absorb more than 500mg of Calcium at one time, so our 1200mg's should be taken in divided doses, a.m. and p.m., ideally with meals.

    If we're also getting Calcium regularly in our diets, then we want to have some idea of how much and adjust our supplements accordingly. Most of the once-daily vitamin/mineral supplement preparations don't contain very much Calcium so
    we need to take additional Calcium. The absolute best way to take calcium citrate is in the powdered form, usually within a clear capsule. Twin Labs and Solgar market it in this form as do some other companies. Pressed tablets have a tendency not to break down and never get utilized. To test how well ANY of your pill form supplements are likely being utilized by your body: pour some white vinegar into a glass (enough to completely cover the pill/tablet) and place your supplement into the vinegar. After 30 minutes, if it's not dissolved, you'll want to try a different brand/manufacturer/formulation.

    A quick look on the internet, through a search engine, under calcium, should net a lot of good info and links.

    To healthy bones!

    Love, light and laughter,
    Ink
  • jake10
    jake10 Member Posts: 202
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    I found my lump also. I called my gyn dr. and they arranged for me to have a mammo in 3 weeks. I told them that it wasnt a tiny little bump, it was large. Actually measured 4.5 cm. To say the least I wasnt going to wait that long, so I called my pcp and had a mammo done 3 hrs later and had my mastectomy with reconstruction done 1 week later. The gynecologist never even called me back. Of course I dont know if the nurse even told her the day I called. I have continued to see this Dr. but I came to the realization that their focus is not on breasts. In fact at my next yearly (last yr)I noticed that she actually did a very poor breast exam. I agree that the surgeon is he best to do this and I see him every 6 months. But now I know what I expect in my health care and if I dont get it, I will go where I can get it. Sharon

    Amen to that! I had big problems with my Plastic Surgeon. After a year I found another one and glad for it. Hadn't spoken to my 1st Plastic Surgeon since early summer and low and behold he called (his office) my home last week. He thinks I am still walking around with a silver dollar sized hole in my abdomen with tunnels 3-4inches long. They have to see so many patients to have a profitable practice that it is almost impossible for them to care for all these patients. Everytime I went to him his office waiting room was packed full of patients. From the care I recieved from him, I am sure he was not thinking. Good Luck! Beth
  • hummingbyrd
    hummingbyrd Member Posts: 950 Member
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    inkblot said:

    Hi Ladies and Happy New Year!

    Have been away for a bit but noticed your posts re calcium supplements and wanted to add that Calcium Citrate is the most readily absorbed form which causes less digestive upsets (constipation, etc.). However, all the Calcium in the world won't help us if we don't also take Vitamin D. Our bodies cannot utilize calcium without it.(We also get Vit. D from the sunshine but most of us don't typically have much exposure this time of the year.)

    Postmenopausal we need 1,200 mg of Calcium/day and a minimum of 400 i.u. of vitamin D/day. One other important tidbit is that our bodies cannot absorb more than 500mg of Calcium at one time, so our 1200mg's should be taken in divided doses, a.m. and p.m., ideally with meals.

    If we're also getting Calcium regularly in our diets, then we want to have some idea of how much and adjust our supplements accordingly. Most of the once-daily vitamin/mineral supplement preparations don't contain very much Calcium so
    we need to take additional Calcium. The absolute best way to take calcium citrate is in the powdered form, usually within a clear capsule. Twin Labs and Solgar market it in this form as do some other companies. Pressed tablets have a tendency not to break down and never get utilized. To test how well ANY of your pill form supplements are likely being utilized by your body: pour some white vinegar into a glass (enough to completely cover the pill/tablet) and place your supplement into the vinegar. After 30 minutes, if it's not dissolved, you'll want to try a different brand/manufacturer/formulation.

    A quick look on the internet, through a search engine, under calcium, should net a lot of good info and links.

    To healthy bones!

    Love, light and laughter,
    Ink

    There you have it....good job Ink, a very thorough
    and concise summation of Ca++ supplementation!
    Where have you been girlfriend?
    Your presence has been sorely missed!
    By the way, happy new year to you too! and welcome back.
    hummb
  • krisrey
    krisrey Member Posts: 194
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    inkblot said:

    Hi Ladies and Happy New Year!

    Have been away for a bit but noticed your posts re calcium supplements and wanted to add that Calcium Citrate is the most readily absorbed form which causes less digestive upsets (constipation, etc.). However, all the Calcium in the world won't help us if we don't also take Vitamin D. Our bodies cannot utilize calcium without it.(We also get Vit. D from the sunshine but most of us don't typically have much exposure this time of the year.)

    Postmenopausal we need 1,200 mg of Calcium/day and a minimum of 400 i.u. of vitamin D/day. One other important tidbit is that our bodies cannot absorb more than 500mg of Calcium at one time, so our 1200mg's should be taken in divided doses, a.m. and p.m., ideally with meals.

    If we're also getting Calcium regularly in our diets, then we want to have some idea of how much and adjust our supplements accordingly. Most of the once-daily vitamin/mineral supplement preparations don't contain very much Calcium so
    we need to take additional Calcium. The absolute best way to take calcium citrate is in the powdered form, usually within a clear capsule. Twin Labs and Solgar market it in this form as do some other companies. Pressed tablets have a tendency not to break down and never get utilized. To test how well ANY of your pill form supplements are likely being utilized by your body: pour some white vinegar into a glass (enough to completely cover the pill/tablet) and place your supplement into the vinegar. After 30 minutes, if it's not dissolved, you'll want to try a different brand/manufacturer/formulation.

    A quick look on the internet, through a search engine, under calcium, should net a lot of good info and links.

    To healthy bones!

    Love, light and laughter,
    Ink

    Hi Ink,
    Thanks for the info on calcium. I just recently started taking a womens mulitvit..and calcium with vit D. I know that I don't get enough in my diet, so I figured I better start taking care of it with the supplements.
    Kris
  • inkblot
    inkblot Member Posts: 698 Member
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    There you have it....good job Ink, a very thorough
    and concise summation of Ca++ supplementation!
    Where have you been girlfriend?
    Your presence has been sorely missed!
    By the way, happy new year to you too! and welcome back.
    hummb

    Hey Humm:

    Have just been busy with houseguests and then we took a little trip too. Have missed keeping up with everyone here.

    Hope you're continuing to feel well and wondering how your brother is doing? Read about your arm fracture and felt so badly for you! Doesn't that just rip the seam all the way out??? I swear, sometimes I wonder how these docs stay in business, since far too many of them seem to be asleep at the wheel!

    Take care and keep drinking that milk!

    Love, light and laughter,
    Ink