Any survivor of duodenal/cholangiocarcinoma?

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Hello,

My mom was diagnosed with duodenal cancer back in 2013 Aug. Luckily it did not metastasize to other organs or lymph nodes. Through Whipple surgery, they removed her 3.2cm tumor. At the time, the oncologist said since her cancer did not spread, she doesnt NEED chemotherapy but recommended chemo just in case. However, we felt that chemo would destroy her good cells (as well and lowers her immune system, which in turn will form cancer again) and she was already weaker than other peopl her age (58 years old) due to stroke and many other complications. So we decided to not do chemo.

 

However, she was recently diagnosed with metastasized cancer in her liver. After running the biopsy, oncologists confirmed it was indeed the same cancer tissues that were in her duodenum. So her cancer is actually cholangiocarcinoma (bile duct cancer) that formed in her duodenum And now spread to her liver. She was given 8-12 months to live...... Our family is in shock and debelief. Everytime she did her tests, all were normal and healthy for the past 4 years. She was clos to hitting her 5 year mark and cancer free. She has no symptoms, other than having brown or pink urine which the doctors said it has nothing to do with cancer...

 

oncologist basically said, since it is a metastisized cancer, she cannot do surgery. She said that once the cancer metastisizes, it means tiny cancer cells are all over her body, it just has not formed any tumor yet. I am not sure if anyone has had similar situation,  but is it really true that you cannot cut it out and do chemo to kill off the tiny cancer cells thats "all over your body?" As of now my mom has two 2.7cm leisions in her liver with no sign of metastasis in her other organs. 

 

I read on this post where people have been receiving radiation and chemo to reduce the size of the tumor and then receives surgery and finally cancer free! I wanted to post my mom's story here to see if anyone had a similar situation as my mom. Or any survivors of this rare cancer. I would love to hear your story so I can let my mom know that she is not the only one going through this fight. 

 

Thank you, 

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  • MyJourneywithCancer
    MyJourneywithCancer Member Posts: 82
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    Hello Mizziwoo,

    Hello Mizziwoo,

    I am sorry to hear about what you are going through recently.

    If you have not already done so, visiting this older thread may provide you with some personal experiences:

    https://csn.cancer.org/node/193733

    Since cancer is a heterogeneous disease, and given that treatment plans are being revised fast to accommodate new findings, every case is very unique. To add mine, my wife has been diagnosed in 2016 with a stage 4 disease in bile-duct/liver, and originally described as Cholangiocarcinoma or Hepatocellular Adenocarcinoma. She had metastasis to her lungs, kidney, adrenal gland, and multiple lymph nodes, and was later categorized as with unknown primary. Her disease was unresponsive to initial attempt with chemotherapy for 3 sessions (oxaloplatin and 5FU combo). During the chemo, her health and liver function continued to deteriorate to almost a point of no return. Apart of severe jaundice due to bile duct blockage, and respiratory distress due to plural effusion, the wild swings between constipation and diarrhea as a side effect of chemo were very hard to manage; nutrition and hydration were real concern. After multiple fluid removal from lung, and bile duct stent placement, the situation did not improve: she was completely bed-ridden, and the numbers for her liver function tests were sky-rocketing. Her first oncologist said it was matter of weeks. Luckily, her liver biopsy was found to have BRAF V600E mutation, and, as an only resort, she was put on BRAF and MEK inhibitors. Within weeks, that made a visible difference! Six months and three scans later, she is continuing to respond to the targeted therapy.

    Since you mom is a relatively long survivor and has the disease confined to limited organs, these are indications that she has a fair chance to continue to fight the disease, but at this stage her system needs some external help in terms of some kind of treatment plan. I would get a second opinion about surgery from another oncologist. Getting a few molecular diagnostics done, including genomic profiling, may also provide some knowledge about “actionable” alterations/targets which in turn may help deciding on a treatment flow chart.

    I wish your family the best.

  • mizziwoo
    mizziwoo Member Posts: 2
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    Hello MyJourneyWithCancer,

    Hello MyJourneyWithCancer,

     

    Thank you for sharing your wife's story and I am so sorry to hear about what your family is going through as well. However, I am very glad that your wife's condition is improving. It is always inspiring and encouraging to read other people's success stories. Hope my mom can see improvements as well once she starts her chemo. As for now, we are getting a second opinion from UCSF since our oncologist in LA was not really giving my mom ANY hope. She was chewing gum when she told my mom that she has 8-12 months to live..... 

    So we are hoping that through second opinion we can maybe do surgery or hear something more hopeful... 

    I will read the older posts that you sent but has your wife (or anyone reading this) considered CBD or medical marijuana to help with chemo side effects? I have read online that it definitely helps with chemo side effects by increasing appetitie and as a natural pain killer. Some even claim killing off cancer cells but it is not scientifically proven obviously. I am not sure if your wife can benefit from this or not as everyone's case is different...

     

    Best wishes to your family as well. Stay positive and strong! 

     

     

  • cat57
    cat57 Member Posts: 10
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    STRESSED

    I had my staging endoscopy/ biopsies to detect spread last Friday (today is Tuesday). They had promised me some results right after the procedure, but no such luck. I have to wait till tomorrow. I feel like everything else is on hold till I know.....as I was tld to expect surgery soon after, then whatever follow up..chemo, etc. I am a chronic pain patient too, so I am wondering how much addiitonal discomfort all of this is going to throw me into!  All that said... I swear I am trying to stay positive!!!

  • MyJourneywithCancer
    MyJourneywithCancer Member Posts: 82
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    Hello Cat57

    Welcome to the forum. I am sorry to hear about your diagnosis. I like you being so positive. It is an aggressive disease, so let's be aggressive too. My best wishes for tomorrow's visit. It's time to get in to an action plan.

    My thoughts will remain with you.

  • MyJourneywithCancer
    MyJourneywithCancer Member Posts: 82
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    mizziwoo said:

    Hello MyJourneyWithCancer,

    Hello MyJourneyWithCancer,

     

    Thank you for sharing your wife's story and I am so sorry to hear about what your family is going through as well. However, I am very glad that your wife's condition is improving. It is always inspiring and encouraging to read other people's success stories. Hope my mom can see improvements as well once she starts her chemo. As for now, we are getting a second opinion from UCSF since our oncologist in LA was not really giving my mom ANY hope. She was chewing gum when she told my mom that she has 8-12 months to live..... 

    So we are hoping that through second opinion we can maybe do surgery or hear something more hopeful... 

    I will read the older posts that you sent but has your wife (or anyone reading this) considered CBD or medical marijuana to help with chemo side effects? I have read online that it definitely helps with chemo side effects by increasing appetitie and as a natural pain killer. Some even claim killing off cancer cells but it is not scientifically proven obviously. I am not sure if your wife can benefit from this or not as everyone's case is different...

     

    Best wishes to your family as well. Stay positive and strong! 

     

     

    Thank you

    Thank you for the update.

    I think you are in right track, and I am hoping something positive is on its way.

    As for reducing the chemo side effect for my wife, we were in a continuing mode of utmost shock from the diagnosis, and things were going beyond control so fast! After each blood work, I would like to have an independent look. As soon as I was able to sit down with the data, I was plotting them together as functions of time to have an idea about their trends. Multiple parameters of her metabolic profile were showing accelerated changes, and if you are waiting for the L/H flags to show up, you are completely missing the earlier interpretation (another version of chewing gum). Anyway, looking back, switching from chemo was only and right choice! My two cents: in case to case basis, open discussion with your oncologist and insisting of having a concrete plan B (preferably plan C as well) ready is very important.

    You said it: let's stay positive!

     

  • cat57
    cat57 Member Posts: 10
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    Hello Cat57

    Welcome to the forum. I am sorry to hear about your diagnosis. I like you being so positive. It is an aggressive disease, so let's be aggressive too. My best wishes for tomorrow's visit. It's time to get in to an action plan.

    My thoughts will remain with you.

    MyJourney

    Thanks for the reply! I am finding it interesting what i read on here, compare to what the Specialist told me. I am remaining GUARDEDLY optimistic. I Felt the doctors were being a bit overly "rainbows and unicorns" when tellimg me about my diagnosis, and they said the complete opposite about it being aggressive. I have had a great deal of personal experience dealing with others thru their cancer, and I know what I have seen usually happen. So when the surgeon told me yeaterday she could "completely cure me", I said "GREAT!", but I know that was a bit premature of her to claim. I am very curious to know how many others were told that, and then had reoccurance......

    Anyway.....nice to "meet" you....and we can hopefully chat again soon!  ((((((gentlehugs))))))

  • Osproul
    Osproul Member Posts: 3
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    What options are left?

    My husband was diagnosed with Duodenal Cancer 5/12/17. On 6/6/16 he went in for a Whipple but found it had metastizied so they were only able to do a duodenal bypass. He went through 20'rounds of Folfox, 3 rounds of Folferi with Avastin and 2 rounds of Keytruda. He had a GI bleed on 11/10/17 and was hospitalized for 3 days and the on 11/14/17 he had a stroke. They aren't sure what caused the GI bleed or th stroke but now he doesn't want to get Keytruda because it can cause bleeds. We aren't sure what treatment options are available at this point. Our current oncologist says there aren't any other treatments but my husband is a fighter and feels he has a lot more in him. Any suggestions? We live in NC and he is only 52.

    Thanks for reading!

  • MyJourneywithCancer
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    Hello Osproul
    I do not have a direct experience with Keytruda, but, from what I read, response to immunotherapy like this takes a little longer to kick in. So having a reduced dose or a temporary drug holiday may be two options to continue in that route. Another completely separate option would be targeted treatment that addresses the specific tumor mutation, if known. EGFR and HER2 alterations are known in stomach and duodenal cancer, and a genomic profile from biopsy sample is needed for detecting these mutations.
  • Osproul
    Osproul Member Posts: 3
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    Hello Osproul
    I do not have a direct experience with Keytruda, but, from what I read, response to immunotherapy like this takes a little longer to kick in. So having a reduced dose or a temporary drug holiday may be two options to continue in that route. Another completely separate option would be targeted treatment that addresses the specific tumor mutation, if known. EGFR and HER2 alterations are known in stomach and duodenal cancer, and a genomic profile from biopsy sample is needed for detecting these mutations.

    2nd Opinion

    we will be seeing a new Doctor at Wake Forest on December 4th. We are hoping they have new options. I will update after the appointment.

     

    Thanks!