Surgery video

Karen63
Karen63 Member Posts: 25
in Colorectal Cancer #1
I am having my liver surgery at a teaching/research hospital. I was asked if I would agree to having a video done of my surgery and medical students allowed to observe. I was fine with this, but my husband feels uncomfortable about it. Any thoughts from any of you about this? thanks for any responses...

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  • PhillieG
    PhillieG Member Posts: 4,866 Member
    #2
    Go For It...
    The way I see it is that you're helping others by doing this. I'm sure that they will keep your identity private.
    Did your husband say what he is uncomfortable with?
    -phil
  • Karen63
    Karen63 Member Posts: 25
    #3
    PhillieG said:

    Go For It...
    The way I see it is that you're helping others by doing this. I'm sure that they will keep your identity private.
    Did your husband say what he is uncomfortable with?
    -phil

    privacy
    He says he doesn't like the idea of students viewing what he considers a private matter..I think he believes that there is no privacy adhered to. I stay away from the internet, but he says he has viewed videos of surgeries and find them plentiful on-line. I guess he is afraid I could end up being one of those videos that are available....
  • Helen321
    Helen321 Member Posts: 1,459 Member
    #4
    Karen63 said:

    privacy
    He says he doesn't like the idea of students viewing what he considers a private matter..I think he believes that there is no privacy adhered to. I stay away from the internet, but he says he has viewed videos of surgeries and find them plentiful on-line. I guess he is afraid I could end up being one of those videos that are available....

    A little unrelated to
    A little unrelated to surgery but when I had my daughter, doctor asked if a couple of residents could participate in my care. I said yes. Well 6 people showed up. I told him sorry, one or two but I am not having six people that personally involved in my very exposed body parts. Where will this video be shown and how is your privacy preserved? I think it's a great thing as long as your husband feels comfortable once he gets the privacy info. Maybe they can show you both a sample video and tell you how that video was used.
  • PhillieG
    PhillieG Member Posts: 4,866 Member
    #5
    Karen63 said:

    privacy
    He says he doesn't like the idea of students viewing what he considers a private matter..I think he believes that there is no privacy adhered to. I stay away from the internet, but he says he has viewed videos of surgeries and find them plentiful on-line. I guess he is afraid I could end up being one of those videos that are available....

    Students Learn By Viewing
    Many times they can't perform the surgery so the next best thing is to view an actual procedure being done. If all of the trials and procedures were kept private, how could others learn how to perform the procedure? It seems that what you are having done and they are requesting to video is not something that are a dime a dozen.

    I really don't see what the big deal is, it almost sounds like he's comparing your operation to porn. I would make sure that your privacy is respected but if they are looking at your liver, what's the problem?

    Everything that I was asked to do as far as clinical trials go was fine by me. How are people supposed to learn? I guess one could let someone else do it but I feel that I (and the collective "we") have a responsibility to help others with cancer.

    I know if my wife was having something done, I'd be fine with it being filmed if she was. If she WASN'T, I would respect her wishes and that would be that but I strongly feel it's your call.
    Of course, if it's going to start WWIII then I guess I'd probably start WWIII. I can't help it, I feel a responsibility to do things that benefit others in the fight against cancer...

    Obviously, I feel very strongly about this. I'm sure your husband cares deeply about you and I can understand that, but if this is being videoed, you can be sure that they are going to make sure the procedure will be done right since there is a "record" of it being performed.

    -phil
    PS: maybe they can get a stunt double
    What's Meryl Streep doing?
    :-)
  • maglets
    maglets Member Posts: 2,576 Member
    #6
    PhillieG said:

    Students Learn By Viewing
    Many times they can't perform the surgery so the next best thing is to view an actual procedure being done. If all of the trials and procedures were kept private, how could others learn how to perform the procedure? It seems that what you are having done and they are requesting to video is not something that are a dime a dozen.

    I really don't see what the big deal is, it almost sounds like he's comparing your operation to porn. I would make sure that your privacy is respected but if they are looking at your liver, what's the problem?

    Everything that I was asked to do as far as clinical trials go was fine by me. How are people supposed to learn? I guess one could let someone else do it but I feel that I (and the collective "we") have a responsibility to help others with cancer.

    I know if my wife was having something done, I'd be fine with it being filmed if she was. If she WASN'T, I would respect her wishes and that would be that but I strongly feel it's your call.
    Of course, if it's going to start WWIII then I guess I'd probably start WWIII. I can't help it, I feel a responsibility to do things that benefit others in the fight against cancer...

    Obviously, I feel very strongly about this. I'm sure your husband cares deeply about you and I can understand that, but if this is being videoed, you can be sure that they are going to make sure the procedure will be done right since there is a "record" of it being performed.

    -phil
    PS: maybe they can get a stunt double
    What's Meryl Streep doing?
    :-)

    Karen
    I'd stand in for you karen but I've done it twice already and well....

    seriously....it's your call. I had several students attend my first liver re-section. It was a 6 hour surgery so I think they came and went. One of the kids came and sat with me before sugery and several dropped in after surgery to say hello in the days following the operation. They were all great kids and i was really glad I had said yes.

    mags
  • steveandnat
    steveandnat Member Posts: 886
    #7
    get assurance from surgeon
    I would think the privacy issue comes up all the time. The surgeon and hospital must have some sort of privacy policy in place for patients. I would look at that and if they don't then I might question them "why not". Pray the surgery goes great video or not. Jeff
  • SisterSledge
    SisterSledge Member Posts: 332 Member
    #8
    my choice
    I would want them to do the video...we need to help with the learning and research and knowledge for making the advances needed in caring for, treating and curing this disease. Put personal issues aside for the greater good, I think! My mother donated her body to science and I would do the same if they wanted it...take whatever knowledge gains can be had from my experience, would be my choice. Good luck on your surgery!
  • CaptainCowboy
    CaptainCowboy Member Posts: 4
    #9
    Surgery Video - a different view
    The comments regarding video taping and students observing the surgery, I have found very interesting. However, here are some more points to consider:

    1. When will the students be observing the surgery? Will they be there for the prep, aseptic skin prep, draping, etc.? My question is why do they have to be there. If they are in the operating room, that only adds more poteniial for infection,etc. IF they are not in the operating arena, and are watching from a secure,closed circuit TV, that does not seem to be necessary for students to learn.

    2. What is the purpose of the video? When do they start recording? Is it begun when the patient enters the surgical arena for the prep,skin prep and draping? If it is only the surgical procedure itself, what makes that any better than computer simulation or the use of "dummies" which are currently used for nursing students when learning nursing procedures during their training.

    Many people are of a conservative natue and believe that after marriage, the 2 bodies become one and such things as nudity should remain private. That is not to say that there are not reasons for that not to be the case --- doctors and nurses in the opearating arena are exceptions and should have access to a person's body,

    In today's computer age, through computer simulation, the same thngs can be accomplished without "muddying up" the operating arena or having a potential steady stream of students entering and exiting a sterile environment.

    Just another view. However, as has baeen said previously, I do believe the decision is yours.

    Good luck
  • PhillieG
    PhillieG Member Posts: 4,866 Member
    #10
    CaptainCowboy said:

    Surgery Video - a different view
    The comments regarding video taping and students observing the surgery, I have found very interesting. However, here are some more points to consider:

    1. When will the students be observing the surgery? Will they be there for the prep, aseptic skin prep, draping, etc.? My question is why do they have to be there. If they are in the operating room, that only adds more poteniial for infection,etc. IF they are not in the operating arena, and are watching from a secure,closed circuit TV, that does not seem to be necessary for students to learn.

    2. What is the purpose of the video? When do they start recording? Is it begun when the patient enters the surgical arena for the prep,skin prep and draping? If it is only the surgical procedure itself, what makes that any better than computer simulation or the use of "dummies" which are currently used for nursing students when learning nursing procedures during their training.

    Many people are of a conservative natue and believe that after marriage, the 2 bodies become one and such things as nudity should remain private. That is not to say that there are not reasons for that not to be the case --- doctors and nurses in the opearating arena are exceptions and should have access to a person's body,

    In today's computer age, through computer simulation, the same thngs can be accomplished without "muddying up" the operating arena or having a potential steady stream of students entering and exiting a sterile environment.

    Just another view. However, as has baeen said previously, I do believe the decision is yours.

    Good luck

    Video is to be viewed later, Correct?
    If they're making a video, why would students even be in there?
  • CaptainCowboy
    CaptainCowboy Member Posts: 4
    #11

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