my new idea IV vitamin C in a slow release fanny pack using port

pete43lost_at_sea
pete43lost_at_sea Member Posts: 3,900 Member
only read this if your interested in vit c which is a complementary therapy i am using.
i am not suggesting this for anyone else but me, but am interested in any comments.

assuming iv c has real benefits in fighting tumours. i do based on my experience so far and the 500 pages of studies i have read. its use is wide spread here outside of the onc's circles.

so most of us remember the old slow release 5fu fanny pack, those who had folfox.

well now i wonder if the onc's would like us using the technique to dish out iv C at the correct molar concentration to kill tumour cells.

we could be living on iv c 24x7x365 using this technique. i am going to try it, will let you know how it goes.

maybe i will need in c breaks, like chemo breaks. but this technique would certainly take the hassle out of iv c infusions.

my strong point is ideas, not spelling and grammar. we are quiet innovative in australia.

had a radical idea with leveraging conventional chemo slow release bum pack with the complementary iv c i am recieving.

that the chemo bum bag we get 3 days x 24 hours could be IV C. if i get a port soon thats what i will try investigate. never heard of the slow release in iv C.

basically i need to get and maintain the correct molar concentration of iv c in my blood for as long as possible.

if i graph my iv c concentration versus time, then its the area under the curve that represents my tumour cell kill. assuming my tumours respond.

did you know glucose and vit c have similar shapes and that the reason tumour cells apparently suck in vit c.

i emailed this post to some friends in the iv c world.

of course strategies and blood tests would not to be fitted around this regime. but getting the best dosaging around this technique could make the 10% improvement in tumour kill that could turn iv c from a nice life extended/sometimes cure. to a more effective treatment.

maybe the onc's not letting me into the chemo room at saint vincents and saint george to get iv c, has helped me develop what maybe a more practical and effective treatment option just for me.

hugs,
pete

Comments

  • smokeyjoe
    smokeyjoe Member Posts: 1,425 Member
    Interesting. Sorry I
    Interesting. Sorry I HATED wearing that pump!!! How about a vitamine C patch instead :)
  • elizabethgd
    elizabethgd Member Posts: 145
    smokeyjoe said:

    Interesting. Sorry I
    Interesting. Sorry I HATED wearing that pump!!! How about a vitamine C patch instead :)

    i like
    My veins are weak.. so vit c patch ..really appeals to me.. easy to live with also.. like that idea a lot..
  • tanstaafl
    tanstaafl Member Posts: 1,313 Member
    slow IVC
    never heard of the slow release in iv C.
    Me neither.

    Not sure what fluid storage capacity the fanny pack carries, injection over 24 hr sounds pretty dilute in the body at any given time, where concentration is important to tumor kill. Shouldn't have any sniffles, since vitamin C neutralizes histamine internally. Also the Histamine drives VEGF-A, an angiogenic protein that promotes cancer growth, so neutralization is good.
  • smokeyjoe
    smokeyjoe Member Posts: 1,425 Member
    tanstaafl said:

    slow IVC
    never heard of the slow release in iv C.
    Me neither.

    Not sure what fluid storage capacity the fanny pack carries, injection over 24 hr sounds pretty dilute in the body at any given time, where concentration is important to tumor kill. Shouldn't have any sniffles, since vitamin C neutralizes histamine internally. Also the Histamine drives VEGF-A, an angiogenic protein that promotes cancer growth, so neutralization is good.

    Tans...is this the same
    Tans...is this the same (sort of) affect as cimetidine??
  • tanstaafl
    tanstaafl Member Posts: 1,313 Member
    smokeyjoe said:

    Tans...is this the same
    Tans...is this the same (sort of) affect as cimetidine??

    histamine
    Different mechanisms to reduce the presence of histamine, probably only partial - that they reduce the amount of histamine, not eliminate it. Cimetidine also stimulates tumor infiltrating lymphocytes