Please help with Excess Mucus or Phlegm

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mrapp
mrapp Member Posts: 30
edited October 2011 in Head and Neck Cancer #1
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to control the excessive amount of Mucus or Phlegm ? It is mostly when I lay down but sometimes when I am sitting or standing. Its like it is constantly flowing down the back of my throat, very thick and constantly flowing, very aggravating and drives me crazy. Also how long does this sticky nasty stuff last?
Someone please help me with this, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Mitch .. Florida

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  • Hal61
    Hal61 Member Posts: 655
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    The Never Ending Slurry
    Hi Mitch, I'm about a year and a half out of treatment--35 rads, chemo, partial neck--but always remember the mucous. For me, the most effective treatment was the simplest, maybe a teaspoon of baking soda, to a half teaspoon of salt in a quart of warm water. You can rinse and gargle with this all you want, and it always seemed to work, for a short time, for me.

    The other most-recommended product is Mucinex, which I never used. But it's been effective for many here.

    If the formula could be created, I always thought it would have a use as a lubricant in heavy industry. The good news is, almost to a man or woman, it does get better and go away, but it's one of the most bothersome of short-term side effects.

    best, Hal
  • mrapp
    mrapp Member Posts: 30
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    Hal61 said:

    The Never Ending Slurry
    Hi Mitch, I'm about a year and a half out of treatment--35 rads, chemo, partial neck--but always remember the mucous. For me, the most effective treatment was the simplest, maybe a teaspoon of baking soda, to a half teaspoon of salt in a quart of warm water. You can rinse and gargle with this all you want, and it always seemed to work, for a short time, for me.

    The other most-recommended product is Mucinex, which I never used. But it's been effective for many here.

    If the formula could be created, I always thought it would have a use as a lubricant in heavy industry. The good news is, almost to a man or woman, it does get better and go away, but it's one of the most bothersome of short-term side effects.

    best, Hal

    Hal61
    Thanks Hal Mucinex works for about 2 hours, then the running starts again. Anyone else, please help or at least suggest.

    Mitch .. Florida
  • Hal61
    Hal61 Member Posts: 655
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    Suction machine
    Here's an earlier post from "Dave" robdad, who had his onc prescribe a suction machine. Some here have used them. I don't know under what conditions they would be prescribed.

    "I got the suction machine through a medical supply Co. My Oncologist ordered it and they delivered to my house. It is about 1 foot square with tubes and a container that you rinse out when it is full. You put the wand in your mouth and slowly work it back towards your throat. It sucks everything up. It is GROSS. I am so glad I had it though. I used it for the last 2 weeks of treatment and at least a month after. Its basically a rental. My insurance picked up most of it but I had to pay some. Well worth it. See if your Dr. can get you one or try a supply company on your own. The 1st 6 weeks after treatment for me were brutal as far as mucous goes. It was the # 1 problem. Used to wake up 10 times a night spitting it out. Now 4 1/2 months out and sleeping 6 hrs at one stretch. You'll get there soon. All my best wishes.
    Dave"

    Good Luck, Hal
  • DominicM
    DominicM Member Posts: 18
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    Hyoscyamine was what it took for me.....towards the end of my rads my mucous production was unbelievable and lasted for maybe 3 weeks....the meds dried me right out but you have to keep adjusting the dose because it can dry you out too much
  • nwasen
    nwasen Member Posts: 235 Member
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    Excess Mucus
    Mitch
    I had that thick ropey stuff that you can't swallow near the end of my treatments and then for about 2 months afterwards.
    I too used just natural rinses which helped but still the nasty stuff lasted. But gradually it went away. One day I woke up and it was done.
    I still have some dry mouth and I use Biotene moisturizing mouth spray. They make toothpaste and other products too. Not too expensive and for me, does the trick.
    Good luck and let us know when yours is gone!
    Nancy
  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member
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    Baking Soad & Hydrogen Peroxide
    I used the above for the pasty stuff,like glue...just rinse and spit. My solution was just a mixture of about a teaspoon full of baking soda and a few Tablespoons of H2O2, in a little water, rinse and spit.

    But what helped me the most was the Amifostine injections I believe...never had the thick ropey phlegm nor the excessive mucus.

    I did have a very dry mouth for many months, and the glue like paste. It was sticky and you couldn't even spit it out.

    Now at 2 1/2 years, nearly all saliva and tasste is back... I do still dry out a little while sleeping though.

    Best,
    John
  • Hondo
    Hondo Member Posts: 6,636 Member
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    Skiffin16 said:

    Baking Soad & Hydrogen Peroxide
    I used the above for the pasty stuff,like glue...just rinse and spit. My solution was just a mixture of about a teaspoon full of baking soda and a few Tablespoons of H2O2, in a little water, rinse and spit.

    But what helped me the most was the Amifostine injections I believe...never had the thick ropey phlegm nor the excessive mucus.

    I did have a very dry mouth for many months, and the glue like paste. It was sticky and you couldn't even spit it out.

    Now at 2 1/2 years, nearly all saliva and tasste is back... I do still dry out a little while sleeping though.

    Best,
    John

    Me too

    Baking Soda and Peroxide for me too, then at night a little Stoppers 4 and I sleep like and old frog.

    Hondo
  • mrapp
    mrapp Member Posts: 30
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    Hondo said:

    Me too

    Baking Soda and Peroxide for me too, then at night a little Stoppers 4 and I sleep like and old frog.

    Hondo

    Many Thanks
    I appreciate all the suggestions. I will try the Hyoscyamine and Baking Soda and Peroxide mix. I am about 5 weeks post Rads and thinking this will ease up any day so I hope I can do without machine. But who knows I have an doc. appt in later next week and the insanity mucus can cause I may just ask for a machine. Last night was a horrible mucus night and really praying hard that tonight is better. Many thanks for all the suggestions, you guys and ladies are the best.

    Mitch .. Florida
  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member
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    mrapp said:

    Many Thanks
    I appreciate all the suggestions. I will try the Hyoscyamine and Baking Soda and Peroxide mix. I am about 5 weeks post Rads and thinking this will ease up any day so I hope I can do without machine. But who knows I have an doc. appt in later next week and the insanity mucus can cause I may just ask for a machine. Last night was a horrible mucus night and really praying hard that tonight is better. Many thanks for all the suggestions, you guys and ladies are the best.

    Mitch .. Florida

    Raining
    You getting a lot of rain up there tonight...been raining here off and on all day, just more this evening.

    Hope you have a good night Mitch...

    John
  • francma
    francma Member Posts: 69 Member
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    excess mucous
    Mitch

    I completed my txs 4/18/11 and it was one of the horrible after effects I also went crazy with. It seemed like a lifetime. Doctors/nurses kept suggesting make a quart of warm water with tsp of baking soda and salt to gargle at least 6x a day. Someone also suggested gargling
    with sparkling water. I cried for help as well and went through boxes of tissues spitting the endless phelgm out all day/night long. Try drinking alot of water...that was hard for me. Such a nightmare..I think it lasted a couple of months?? I'll pray for some relief for you..but it will get better...believe!

    Fran~Oregon
  • mrapp
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    Skiffin16 said:

    Raining
    You getting a lot of rain up there tonight...been raining here off and on all day, just more this evening.

    Hope you have a good night Mitch...

    John

    Rain
    Yea lots of rain with this nor'easterly blowing thru. It makes for a perfect recipe for a miserable night. It's 4:38 AM and I am awake because of the Phlegm and/or mucus. I can't sleep, it is driving me insane. Oh well .. let me beat my head on the wall and maybe then I can get some relief.

    Mitch .. Florida
  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member
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    mrapp said:

    Rain
    Yea lots of rain with this nor'easterly blowing thru. It makes for a perfect recipe for a miserable night. It's 4:38 AM and I am awake because of the Phlegm and/or mucus. I can't sleep, it is driving me insane. Oh well .. let me beat my head on the wall and maybe then I can get some relief.

    Mitch .. Florida

    Movie Day
    Sorry you are having problems....you know how it goes, the suffering you are doing now is the ground work for the success and longevity of your life to come....

    I think this is going to be just a good lazy day meant for movies and lounging with all of my girls....Shelley, Jasmine (Jazzy) and Kali...our two chocolate lab sisters.

    Many years of success and longevity,
    John