Is there such thing as too much non refined/ processed sugar? (sugar from fruits)

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Fayard
Fayard Member Posts: 438 Member
I am trying to gain some weight, at the same time I am trying to completely eliminate processed food, sugar, meat, and lactose from my diet.

I know almost everything, if not everything, has natural sugar.
My concern is the fact that sugar feeds cancer cell, and I also know it is mainly referring to processed sugar, but how about excess natural sugar from fruits?
I drink and eat a lot of carrots, and carrots have a lot sugar. I also eat a lot of raising.

Anyone knows if these sugars in excess also feed cancer cells?

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  • daisy366
    daisy366 Member Posts: 1,458 Member
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    Spike in insulin most harmful
    Here's a tidbit of knowledge for the conversation of sugar. Don't know where I've heard this but I've heard it more than once.

    Yes, cancer loves sugar and we should limit intake. But we should also be cognizant of WHEN we consume sugar. Spikes of insulin will encourage cancer more than sugar consumed after or with other foods. I guess if we eat sugary foods they should not be on empty stomach.

    I'm interested to learn more about this as well as original question.

    Mary Ann
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  • Cler
    Cler Member Posts: 26
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    Natural Sugar
    Hello,

    I have been advised by nutritionists to stick to a plant based low GI diet as insulin peaks do promote cancer growth. Low GI diets contain foods which release sugar into the blood stream slowly. Some tips were to include protein when eating anything like fruit - so a small portion of fruit with a handful of nuts or seeds to balance the blood sugars. I have been told to avoid having too many carbs - just a tablespoon of brown rice, just one slice of wholemeal bread and to fill up on vegetables and beans. I do eat eggs and oily fish.

    I snack on oat cakes with nut or seed butter, goji berries and nuts.

    Agave nectar has now been so over processed it is no longer considered a good sugar substitute. Currently Xylitol Crystals - derived from birch bark - are considered ok for an occasional treat and can be used to make sweet treats. However, it is an occasonal treat and I have just learned (with difficulty!) to alter my taste and get over my sugar cravings. After a few months of perserverence I am fine without sugar and do not even miss it.

    Cler
  • evertheoptimist
    evertheoptimist Member Posts: 140
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    I read a research (sorry,
    I read a research (sorry, forget the link) that actually fructose is much worse than glucose. Though both of them are sugars, they are metabolized differently, and cancer cells use fructose much more than glucose. There were several studies like that. Needless today, glucose is also bad for cancer patients. It's just that most people think lots of fruits are really healthy, and that's not true for cancer patients.

    The recommendations I read from integrative oncology books was, limit fruits to 1-2 servings a day, no more. And, even there, choose low fructose fruits. You can google and find out which fruits have lower fructose content.

    Of course, the worst (most abundant) source of fructose is packaged foods. They all contain tons of fructose. It's all corn syrup based, and it's all fructose. As a rule, I no longer eat any food from a package.
  • Fayard
    Fayard Member Posts: 438 Member
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    I read a research (sorry,
    I read a research (sorry, forget the link) that actually fructose is much worse than glucose. Though both of them are sugars, they are metabolized differently, and cancer cells use fructose much more than glucose. There were several studies like that. Needless today, glucose is also bad for cancer patients. It's just that most people think lots of fruits are really healthy, and that's not true for cancer patients.

    The recommendations I read from integrative oncology books was, limit fruits to 1-2 servings a day, no more. And, even there, choose low fructose fruits. You can google and find out which fruits have lower fructose content.

    Of course, the worst (most abundant) source of fructose is packaged foods. They all contain tons of fructose. It's all corn syrup based, and it's all fructose. As a rule, I no longer eat any food from a package.

    What!
    That is a bomber!
    I eat a lot of fruits. Most of the staff I have read on healthy diets for cancer patients stay to eat a lot of fruits.

    I do not eat any process sugar or natural sweeteners. I have an appointment with my nutritionist in two weeks. I need to gain some weight and do not know how!
  • Fayard
    Fayard Member Posts: 438 Member
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    I read a research (sorry,
    I read a research (sorry, forget the link) that actually fructose is much worse than glucose. Though both of them are sugars, they are metabolized differently, and cancer cells use fructose much more than glucose. There were several studies like that. Needless today, glucose is also bad for cancer patients. It's just that most people think lots of fruits are really healthy, and that's not true for cancer patients.

    The recommendations I read from integrative oncology books was, limit fruits to 1-2 servings a day, no more. And, even there, choose low fructose fruits. You can google and find out which fruits have lower fructose content.

    Of course, the worst (most abundant) source of fructose is packaged foods. They all contain tons of fructose. It's all corn syrup based, and it's all fructose. As a rule, I no longer eat any food from a package.

    Anti Cancer Diet
    I was just flipping to the book pages, and it says to eat fruits. I checked on the sugar content of the fruits mentioned, and they all have a lot of sugar.
    Someone in this board mentioned in another discussion she eats a lot of fruits.

    I am very confused and concerned now, because I eat a lot of fruits with high percentage of sugar: cherries, grapes, cantaloupe, blueberries, raspberries, strawberries, bananas, etc.
  • evertheoptimist
    evertheoptimist Member Posts: 140
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    this is what was posted by
    this is what was posted by one of the tireless researchers at Inspire.com ovarian cancer forum. After I read this, I decided to limit fruits to only 1 serving a day, strawberries that have known anti cancer nutrients. Nothing else seems to worth the benefit.

    The exception is lemon. Lemons has powerful anti cancer properties and have VERY LOW fructose. Hence, I treat lemons as vegetables from the nutritional profile point of view. I eat organic whole lemons WITH PEELS - two small ones blenderized into my daily green drinks.

    If you must eat fruits, google the fructose content. Some fruits have much higher fructose contents than others. Recommendation I have seen is to limit daily total consumption of fructose to 15 grams. Eat a couple of high fructose fruits, you are already there, and then most of the anti cancer vegetables all contain small amount of fructose. that's why I eat only 1 serving of fruit a day.


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    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38528161/ns/health-cancer/

    "Pancreatic tumor cells use fructose to divide and proliferate, U.S. researchers said on Monday in a study that challenges the common wisdom that all sugars are the same. ... 'They have major significance for cancer patients given dietary refined fructose consumption, and indicate that efforts to reduce refined fructose intake or inhibit fructose-mediated actions may disrupt cancer growth.' ... Tumor cells thrive on sugar but they used the fructose to proliferate. 'Importantly, fructose and glucose metabolism are quite different,' Heaney's team wrote."

    Cancer Research, Fructose Induces Transketolase Flux to Promote Pancreatic Cancer Growth

    http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/70/15/6368.short?rss=1

    "Importantly, fructose and glucose metabolism are quite different; in comparison with glucose, fructose induces thiamine-dependent transketolase flux and is preferentially metabolized via the nonoxidative pentose phosphate pathway to synthesize nucleic acids and increase uric acid production"

    Cancer Research, Fructose Induces Transketolase Flux to Promote Pancreatic Cancer Growth
  • evertheoptimist
    evertheoptimist Member Posts: 140
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    for your information:
    for your information: fructose content per 100 gram of fruits.

    FRUIT LIST

    Fructose per 100 grams
    1. Dates 32 grams/32%
    2. Raisins 29.7 grams/27.9%
    3. Figs 22.9 grams/22.9%
    4. Prunes 12.5 grams/12.5%
    5. Grapes 8.13 grams/8.13%
    6. Pears 6.23 grams/6.23%
    7. Cherries 6 grams/6%
    8. Apples 5.9 grams/5.9%
    9. Persimmon 5.56 grams/5.56%
    10. Blueberry 4.97 grams/4.97%
    11. Bananas 4.85 grams/4.85%
    12. Kiwi Fruit 4.35 grams/4.35%
    13. Watermelon 3.36 grams/3.36%
    14. Plums 3.07 grams/3.07%
    16. Honeydew Melon 2.96 grams/2.96%
    17. Grapefruit 2.5 grams/2.5%
    18. Strawberry 2.5 grams/2.5%
    19. Blackberry 2.4 grams/2.4%
    20. Raspberry 2.35 grams/2.35%
    21. Orange 2.25 grams/2.25%
    22. Pineapple 2.05 grams/2.05%
    23. Cantaloupe 1.87 grams/1.87%
    24. Peach 1.53 grams/1.53%
    25. Nectarine 1.37 grams/1.37%
    26. Apricot 0.94 gram/0.94%
  • Fayard
    Fayard Member Posts: 438 Member
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    for your information:
    for your information: fructose content per 100 gram of fruits.

    FRUIT LIST

    Fructose per 100 grams
    1. Dates 32 grams/32%
    2. Raisins 29.7 grams/27.9%
    3. Figs 22.9 grams/22.9%
    4. Prunes 12.5 grams/12.5%
    5. Grapes 8.13 grams/8.13%
    6. Pears 6.23 grams/6.23%
    7. Cherries 6 grams/6%
    8. Apples 5.9 grams/5.9%
    9. Persimmon 5.56 grams/5.56%
    10. Blueberry 4.97 grams/4.97%
    11. Bananas 4.85 grams/4.85%
    12. Kiwi Fruit 4.35 grams/4.35%
    13. Watermelon 3.36 grams/3.36%
    14. Plums 3.07 grams/3.07%
    16. Honeydew Melon 2.96 grams/2.96%
    17. Grapefruit 2.5 grams/2.5%
    18. Strawberry 2.5 grams/2.5%
    19. Blackberry 2.4 grams/2.4%
    20. Raspberry 2.35 grams/2.35%
    21. Orange 2.25 grams/2.25%
    22. Pineapple 2.05 grams/2.05%
    23. Cantaloupe 1.87 grams/1.87%
    24. Peach 1.53 grams/1.53%
    25. Nectarine 1.37 grams/1.37%
    26. Apricot 0.94 gram/0.94%

    Thank you very much!
    Thank you very much!

    So, how many grams of sugar, fructose, should we consume and still stay healthy?
  • culka
    culka Member Posts: 149 Member
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    Fayard said:

    Thank you very much!
    Thank you very much!

    So, how many grams of sugar, fructose, should we consume and still stay healthy?

    Here is link
    about sugar
    http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2011/08/16/low-sugar-or-high-sugar-diet/
  • Fayard
    Fayard Member Posts: 438 Member
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    culka said:
    Culka
    Thank you!

    I am going to read it and watch the video as well.