Crappy Nurse, way out of bounds, do i tattle?

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cinnamonsmile
cinnamonsmile Member Posts: 1,187 Member
I had a BMX w/SNB and have had severe PMPS/neuropathy since I woke up from surgery. I have been going to a pain clinic lately and have been utterly impressed with the staff ( I have had so many incompetent, unprofessional drs, surg techs, nurses it is unbelieveable). This morning, I went to register like usual, and they put the bright orange bands stating restricted limb on each arm, not necessarily for causing lymphedema but because bps taken on my arms, esp upper arms can put me in pain for days. Well, miss know it all nurse looked at the bands, ignored them and was going to put the cuff on my arms, I said, uh uh and showed her the bands that I KNOW she saw. She argued with me saying somehting well I know they SAY one time can do it....and I calmly replied to her (really wishing my partner had been in there, of all days, of course he isnt), it is not necessarily for the prevention of lymphedema, but I am being treated here for severe pain and bps on the arms will hurt for days. She argued AGAIN, well you could do the lower arms and again i calmly explained that once I had a bp taken on lower arm and I had a section that felt swollen, burned and felt like someone had taken a razor to the underlying tissue. BP was taken on lower leg. Then came the argument that I did not need to put a gown on, that I could just leave my shirt on. OMG,she was really getting on my nerves. When I got my nerve block in the neck I didn't want any crap on my nice shirt. Turns out I need a gown anyway because my wonderful dr. examines me, pokes to find where the pain starts and stops because he was giving me corisone shots as well. I went to pt an hour after that, and as she was working on me, she noticed that my shirt was bloody and looked at my back, and it was bloody!! the therapist cleaned me up!!! I am so sick of medical unprofessionals. This clinic has been top notch until this B*&tch. I was told my receptionist my rights as having restricted limbs and she broke them.
My anesthiologist/pain dr. is a stickler for protocol, understandmy pain, working with me to help me, do you think I should report her? It is like the bullies from school, if you tattle, they don't treat you nice afterwards and if I have to have her as a nurse again, I really don't need her attitude. I have enough sh*$t with all my pain, you know? Just do your job and don't argue with me.
Thank you for listening.

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  • chenheart
    chenheart Member Posts: 5,159
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    I think you should
    I think you should absolutely "tattle"...maybe she was having a bad day, maybe she is a B.itch on wheels all the time. How much worse could she treat you??? I think you should simply voice your concerns to her superior~ my husband says I have the patent on being a "hot butter knife"...when I voice my opinion, the intended victim doesn't even feel the pain until hours later! I think that kind of tattling is best...if you calmly and even rather nicely go over her head and say how upsetting it was to be treated in what seems to be such a non caring and cavalier way by Nurse Ratchett. You have alwys gotten such good care at the facility, you know the staff has a lot on their plates, blah blah blah, but that above all, YOU are following drs orders and being proactive in your own health management...and would this superior pull Rachett aside and ask her to please take a breath and listen to her patients a bit more closely???? Then, when asked for details~ you can let him know just what happened and how upsetting it all was to you!

    You are important, you deserve better~ stand up for yourself!
  • jnl
    jnl Member Posts: 3,869 Member
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    chenheart said:

    I think you should
    I think you should absolutely "tattle"...maybe she was having a bad day, maybe she is a B.itch on wheels all the time. How much worse could she treat you??? I think you should simply voice your concerns to her superior~ my husband says I have the patent on being a "hot butter knife"...when I voice my opinion, the intended victim doesn't even feel the pain until hours later! I think that kind of tattling is best...if you calmly and even rather nicely go over her head and say how upsetting it was to be treated in what seems to be such a non caring and cavalier way by Nurse Ratchett. You have alwys gotten such good care at the facility, you know the staff has a lot on their plates, blah blah blah, but that above all, YOU are following drs orders and being proactive in your own health management...and would this superior pull Rachett aside and ask her to please take a breath and listen to her patients a bit more closely???? Then, when asked for details~ you can let him know just what happened and how upsetting it all was to you!

    You are important, you deserve better~ stand up for yourself!

    Yes, tell someone about how you were treated!
    Jo Jo just went thru being treated badly by some medical professionals and she asked the pink sisters if she should tell someone higher up. And, the resounding answer was YES!

    There is no excuse for a nurse to treat you like this, especially to argue with you. There must have been something really bad going on in her life, as, I like to give people the benefit of the doubt.


    These medical people work for you and therefore should treat you kindly. And if they don't, they should be reported, plain and simple in my opinion.

    It isn't "tattling". It is simply pointing out that rudeness, unprofessional and harsh treatment was inflicted upon on you and for no reason.

    So, good luck and here's to wishing you better office visits!


    Hugs, Leeza
  • skipper54
    skipper54 Member Posts: 936 Member
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    jnl said:

    Yes, tell someone about how you were treated!
    Jo Jo just went thru being treated badly by some medical professionals and she asked the pink sisters if she should tell someone higher up. And, the resounding answer was YES!

    There is no excuse for a nurse to treat you like this, especially to argue with you. There must have been something really bad going on in her life, as, I like to give people the benefit of the doubt.


    These medical people work for you and therefore should treat you kindly. And if they don't, they should be reported, plain and simple in my opinion.

    It isn't "tattling". It is simply pointing out that rudeness, unprofessional and harsh treatment was inflicted upon on you and for no reason.

    So, good luck and here's to wishing you better office visits!


    Hugs, Leeza

    Agree
    Absolutely, you need to "tattle". If she was having a bad day it shouldn't be a problem. If she treats everyone this way someone needs to know about it because she shouldn't be there. You have to look out for yourself.
  • pinkpalette
    pinkpalette Member Posts: 112
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    skipper54 said:

    Agree
    Absolutely, you need to "tattle". If she was having a bad day it shouldn't be a problem. If she treats everyone this way someone needs to know about it because she shouldn't be there. You have to look out for yourself.

    Absolutely,,,,
    ....You don't deserve to be treated in that matter. Some of these so called health care professionals should walk a mile in our shoes. We, as BC survivors are managing the best we can under extraordinary circumstances. Nobody knows our pain. We must protect ourselves, and do whatever it takes to get through this.

    As my mother always said...what comes around goes around. Good luck to you.
  • mamolady
    mamolady Member Posts: 796 Member
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    At the very least, don't let
    At the very least, don't let her work with you again. If she is your nurse next time, ask for some one else. I can't imagine your blood pressure was normal after all that. I too had bilateral lymph nodes removed and no one has ever argued about taking my bp on my calf.
    Do you happen to know the difference in the reading between the arm and the calf? Mine is higher but I don't know if it is the leg or the chemo or what that has made it higher. I want to try a test but I am a chicken..... I don't want to risk the lymph edema in the arm.
    Cindy
  • 24242
    24242 Member Posts: 1,398
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    I am sorry
    Hi everyone I have been away for a long time,

    It saddens me today when I actually see the personal care deteriorate yet thier success rates seem to be the driving force these days. I was like you in pain all the time and everything done caused more lasting pain effects. No one wanted to talk about the tiny percentages of the possibilities that some of us just are burdened with. 14 years ago I was treated and actually it was 3 years when I was at my nerve ends and could not keep my mind on anything. I had no quality to my life...

    I have had bouts of physical deterioration over the past 9 years but manage to live a productive life. I have had needles and suffered but actually my lymphodima swelling has never been horrid yet still get the feeling of restriction and numbness or pain prickles all through to my hands.

    Please feel like it is your right to express yourself and I continually am reminded that the squeaky wheel does get the grease. I have complained and still complain if it is waranted and have found the care improves drastically the next time you are around if you so happen to have the miss fortune. I am tired of not saying and being honest about how I feeel about most things when at 50 I am still asking myself the age old question, "How far have we truly come?"

    I had to finally quit going to doctors and it will take allot for me to drag my but into one after all I have been through the last couple of years. It was keeping me stuck and I feel allot better now that I stopped spending my time in waiting rooms once again. Life goes on and I finally feel like I am up for living one.

    Love is great and can find lots of it here!!!!!!
    Tara
  • mruczko
    mruczko Member Posts: 110
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    Crappy Nurse
    Last year I got me a Medi Alert bracelet through the National Lymphedema Network and wear it all the time on the left arm. Only once did a medical professional actually see it when I had an infected cyst removed under that arm. She removed it and marked my arm with huge letters - no B/P, no needles this arm! Even at the Oncologist's office, where everyone couldn't be nicer, I have had them actually attach the cuff, but before they inflated it, I yelled. If anyone in the medical profession reads this - PLEASE instruct your people to check wrists, that's what I got if for! Wonder what happens if I ever, God forbid, should be unconcious?
    M.
  • fauxma
    fauxma Member Posts: 3,577 Member
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    mruczko said:

    Crappy Nurse
    Last year I got me a Medi Alert bracelet through the National Lymphedema Network and wear it all the time on the left arm. Only once did a medical professional actually see it when I had an infected cyst removed under that arm. She removed it and marked my arm with huge letters - no B/P, no needles this arm! Even at the Oncologist's office, where everyone couldn't be nicer, I have had them actually attach the cuff, but before they inflated it, I yelled. If anyone in the medical profession reads this - PLEASE instruct your people to check wrists, that's what I got if for! Wonder what happens if I ever, God forbid, should be unconcious?
    M.

    Lots of good advise. I
    Lots of good advise. I think Chen put it well. Tattle but in a very proactive, positive fashion and if you get her again and she shows attitude because of this ask for someone else. This is unexceptable on all levels.
    Stef
  • CypressCynthia
    CypressCynthia Member Posts: 4,014 Member
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    Just wanted to say that I
    Just wanted to say that I agree completely with all of the above comments. Although most of my nurses are absolutely wonderful (I'm an NP), I can think of one who is moody (at best) with parents and I am over her. Please do complain because you may not realize how important your voice can be to the next patient (&/or her co-workers).

    P.S. Just report "the facts" as much as possible and try and keep emotion out of it in order to be as effective as possible.
  • grams2jc
    grams2jc Member Posts: 756
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    Of course speak up
    I work in a small independent medical lab and our patients are encouraged to ask for their preferred phlebotomist, sometimes it is just to talk fisihing. We absolutely want to know if there is a problem with an employee. We work for you and so does that nurse.

    I agree that you should tell them "just the facts, ma'am" but tell them!

    Jennifer
  • bluerose
    bluerose Member Posts: 1,104
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    Tell !!!!!!!!!
    You have to report that nurse to someone who can make a difference by having her spoken to so she doesn't do the same thing to others. I would find a higher up to talk to about it, not a direct supervisor cause then that might get back to her who ratted her out. Higher ups like Administrative folks or those in the PR area of hospitals etc. have an interest in making sure their staff treats patients well and they tend to be more discreet with not saying who it was or making references to specific incidents that would tell the person who provided poor care who it was who told on them. You shouldn't have to worry about reprocussions from her in a perfect world but you could encounter an attitude for sure. You don't need that. If you do get a backlash in attitude from her, even though you told whoever you talk this over with in the organization not to be specific so she knows it was you, then go back and tell the Admin that too, she is resenting you and it's affecting your care. You can go back to them a few times if that's what it takes to stop her from acting the way she did with you because no doubt she is doing the same with others.

    I have experienced this kind of nurse over the 26 years on my journey with cancer and each time I talk with higher ups because I always think that there are patients who are timid and weak and even sicker than I was and just won't have the energy to fight back so if I can at all help by standing up for myself and thereby other patients to follow then I have done the right thing. I actually have had 2 nurses come back to me and apologize themselves, even before I ratted them out, realizing they had crossed a line and they saw it themselves. That's the other thing you do when you first try to work it out with the nurse themselves, you teach them that what they are doing is not helping the patient (quite the opposite), and it's a lesson that could help them become better nurses in the future. I know this from personal experience.

    Just a suggestion from a cancer survivor who has been there. I feel we all need to help each other through our journies with cancer and this is just one way that we can do that - stand up for ourselves and each other in situations like the one you experienced.

    Let us know how it all goes if you have a minute.

    Blessings,

    Bluerose
  • Lynn Smith
    Lynn Smith Member Posts: 1,264 Member
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    bluerose said:

    Tell !!!!!!!!!
    You have to report that nurse to someone who can make a difference by having her spoken to so she doesn't do the same thing to others. I would find a higher up to talk to about it, not a direct supervisor cause then that might get back to her who ratted her out. Higher ups like Administrative folks or those in the PR area of hospitals etc. have an interest in making sure their staff treats patients well and they tend to be more discreet with not saying who it was or making references to specific incidents that would tell the person who provided poor care who it was who told on them. You shouldn't have to worry about reprocussions from her in a perfect world but you could encounter an attitude for sure. You don't need that. If you do get a backlash in attitude from her, even though you told whoever you talk this over with in the organization not to be specific so she knows it was you, then go back and tell the Admin that too, she is resenting you and it's affecting your care. You can go back to them a few times if that's what it takes to stop her from acting the way she did with you because no doubt she is doing the same with others.

    I have experienced this kind of nurse over the 26 years on my journey with cancer and each time I talk with higher ups because I always think that there are patients who are timid and weak and even sicker than I was and just won't have the energy to fight back so if I can at all help by standing up for myself and thereby other patients to follow then I have done the right thing. I actually have had 2 nurses come back to me and apologize themselves, even before I ratted them out, realizing they had crossed a line and they saw it themselves. That's the other thing you do when you first try to work it out with the nurse themselves, you teach them that what they are doing is not helping the patient (quite the opposite), and it's a lesson that could help them become better nurses in the future. I know this from personal experience.

    Just a suggestion from a cancer survivor who has been there. I feel we all need to help each other through our journies with cancer and this is just one way that we can do that - stand up for ourselves and each other in situations like the one you experienced.

    Let us know how it all goes if you have a minute.

    Blessings,

    Bluerose

    I've had minor problems
    I've had minor problems.I watch what the nurses do and ask what next.I keep them on their toes.If I don't feel right about things I tell them politely. Of course they wonder who I think I am.If it is bad enough I will say something.My worse part my surgeon office puts things off. I will continue to go but lately I have told this to my other doctors.No one wait 6 weeks for a biopsy.

    For my husband he had a doppler test done on his legs.He makes the appt.after work.He isn't far but it is a big town and at times there are traffic jams.He got in one. He was 5 minutes late.She told him in no uncertain terms she wants out of there and for him to not be late.Another time he told her she was re-doing the same leg.She said she didn't.He swears she did and I remembe the report that time seemed to be off.

    This year he put off doing the test. We talked about it.Even made a appt somewhere else but it was farther.He did talk to his doctor about her.Nothing was said.Anyway he decided to go back. He kept saying I dread this,I dread this.I said just MAYBE she will be nice for a change(it's April Fools Day)He comes home and said "You'll never believe this".She asked me how I've been.She was gentle on the test and oh so pleasant when we talked. Maybe he should make all his appt on April 1.She wants to shock/fool her patients.

    My cancer dx has changed me.I won't put up with things like I did before.I fired 2 doctors in less than a year and would do it again.One I went to for 25 years. I wish now I would've quit one other doctor years ago but he went to a position in the hospital and I no longer see him but his associate.So that worked.

    Lynn Smith
  • Minka
    Minka Member Posts: 29
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    ABSOLUTELY!!!
    There is NO EXCUSE for the treatment you got. I'm a clinical social worker. If I have a 'bad day'...I stay home. File a complaint. You have the list of patient rights? If not...give me an email and I'll send them to you. You can complain to the State as well. I look at it this way (it's the Social Worker in me..)....if she's done it to you, she's done it to others...and someone needs to hold her responsible. I'm so sorry you had to go through that. Hugs.
  • aysemari
    aysemari Member Posts: 1,596 Member
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    I agree with everyone
    I once witnessed a nasty nurse bully a very sick cancer patient, it
    was horrible but guess what? EVERYONE in the chemo room spoke
    up and I didn't see her after it. And I don't feel sorry one bit. She
    deserved it. This man could barely breathe, he was practically a
    skeleton, how DARE she make him cry! So if not for yourself, then
    do it for the next patient who may not be able to defend him/herself.

    Hugs,
    Ayse
  • pinkflutterby
    pinkflutterby Member Posts: 615 Member
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    aysemari said:

    I agree with everyone
    I once witnessed a nasty nurse bully a very sick cancer patient, it
    was horrible but guess what? EVERYONE in the chemo room spoke
    up and I didn't see her after it. And I don't feel sorry one bit. She
    deserved it. This man could barely breathe, he was practically a
    skeleton, how DARE she make him cry! So if not for yourself, then
    do it for the next patient who may not be able to defend him/herself.

    Hugs,
    Ayse

    the others are right on -
    the others are right on - tell TELL!! Once I had a nurse totally miss my port, hurt like crap! I told the chemo nurse she missed and she was gone the next time I went in (a week later) I am also allergic to all tapes and band aids a male nurse didnt believe me and put a huge bandage over my port, the poor nurse (and me) who picked it off was so mad, my skin came off with it, I have not seen him again either, finally when I was first DX'd I was hardly able to move, the x-ray tech was very annoyed with me and jerked me off the table, I screamed!!!! He has not been seen either. So I say TELL someone else should not have to suffer like we have had to if we can help avoid it. If you are like me and its hard to tattle on someone, do it in a joking way, like man so/so tried taking my BP in my __ arm, glad I was paying attention
  • ms.sunshine
    ms.sunshine Member Posts: 707 Member
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    aysemari said:

    I agree with everyone
    I once witnessed a nasty nurse bully a very sick cancer patient, it
    was horrible but guess what? EVERYONE in the chemo room spoke
    up and I didn't see her after it. And I don't feel sorry one bit. She
    deserved it. This man could barely breathe, he was practically a
    skeleton, how DARE she make him cry! So if not for yourself, then
    do it for the next patient who may not be able to defend him/herself.

    Hugs,
    Ayse

    If it will make you feel better
    Report her. I tend to deal with these type of people when it is happening. That way they will know who you are, and what your issue is with her/him. You can correct it before it snowballs, so to speak. What are they going to do get mad, so what. It's your body, your pain.

    I have learned the hard way when dealing with medical issues that you can't always wait. Somethings have to be done now, the right way.
  • jendrey
    jendrey Member Posts: 377
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    If it will make you feel better
    Report her. I tend to deal with these type of people when it is happening. That way they will know who you are, and what your issue is with her/him. You can correct it before it snowballs, so to speak. What are they going to do get mad, so what. It's your body, your pain.

    I have learned the hard way when dealing with medical issues that you can't always wait. Somethings have to be done now, the right way.

    ...
    I wouldn't call it tattling..I'd call it standing up for yourself. She obviously has a real problem accepting anybody else's reality when it differs from hers. The reality is that she is simply not allowed to treat you (or anyone) in that manner. I think I'd tell her just exactly that. Stupidity is not an asset and neither is arguing with your patient! Especially when the potential for enduring harm is an actual possibility.

    Not only was she clearly in the wrong, she was incredibly insensitive and downright rude. People like her have just no business working with any patients let alone cancer patients.

    (((Hugs)))
  • Different Ballgame
    Different Ballgame Member Posts: 868
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    Here I go again
    Don't know what happened to my post, so here I go again.

    There's a saying, "Don't bring your work, home." Reverse it. "Don't bring your bad day to work."

    I agree 100% with Chen and Ayse.

    As far as I am concerned, the nurse is not human.

    Never hesitate to stand up for your rights.

    Lots of Hugs,
    Janelle
  • laughs_a_lot
    laughs_a_lot Member Posts: 1,368 Member
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    Don't hesitate
    You and your insurance company pay for a service. If the service is delivered incorrectly in any other type of situation you bring it to the attention of a manager.
  • helenkay
    helenkay Member Posts: 9
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    Yes, tell someone higher up. You have a right to be treated correctly. We are not idiots. My daughter had to write with a black Sharpie on my arm "No BP. No needles" before my surgery because people are idiots. I wear a bracelet that says "No BP" but nobody ever looks at it. Speak up!