Too Much Estrogen

Hippiechick58
Hippiechick58 Member Posts: 320
Boy am I bummed. Just came from Oncologist's office. I'm starting rads next Monday, but Onc tells me from the blood tests I just had drawn that my estrogen levels are way too high. It's not because of my ovaries, because I had a total hysterectomy 12 yrs. ago. It's not from my adrenal glands. It's coming from FAT. I am an obese woman (5'7'', 270 lbs.) I know this. I've tried every diet known to man and then some. I eat very healthy foods. My problem? Portion size. I eat way too much!! I tried using a smaller plate and I just heap the food on. I am a diabetic also and sometimes binge on chocolate! Onc wants me to start Arimidex in two weeks, but tells me that I MUST lose weight. I also have a fatty liver and she told me that people with fatty liver are at risk of liver cancer! I'm a total wreck! And to top it all off, I had to move my elderly Mom in with me due to her being unable to live alone any longer. She is very sick and I am trying to take care of her on top of it all. I just feel like giving up! What's the sense of it all? I know I'll never lose the weight, and if I did, I'd just gain it back again! Talk about a catch 22! I guess this turned into a venting post, sorry, didn't mean for it to. Are there gals out there like me? Sure would appreciate a post from you. Thank you in advance!

Dianne

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  • disneyfan2008
    disneyfan2008 Member Posts: 6,583 Member
    @dianne
    So sorry you are going through all of this----Sorry you must tend to your mom...on top of all this...

    can she get home health care even day or two at home to give you a break?

    good luck...
  • tgf
    tgf Member Posts: 950 Member
    Dianne
    Sorry you are feeling so down ... but you have good reasons to. I wish I had some brilliant words of wisdom for you ... but I don't. Instead I want to tell you that we are all here for you... so come here and vent away. I do hope you have some help with your mother ... because you are going to be very tired from the radiation and won't have much energy to spare.

    Take care of yourself ...

    Big hugs,
    Teena
  • teresa41
    teresa41 Member Posts: 471
    tgf said:

    Dianne
    Sorry you are feeling so down ... but you have good reasons to. I wish I had some brilliant words of wisdom for you ... but I don't. Instead I want to tell you that we are all here for you... so come here and vent away. I do hope you have some help with your mother ... because you are going to be very tired from the radiation and won't have much energy to spare.

    Take care of yourself ...

    Big hugs,
    Teena

    i can relate
    i can relate i have struggled my whole life with my weight. i lost 135 pounds about 7 years ago by starving myself i must admit it was the unhealthy way of getting it off. once i started eating again i gained every single pound back. so here i am right back with the weight. i had a double masectomy i went to a plastic surgeon to see about reconstruction she told me very boldly i was to fat! so i have gave up on the idea of reconstruction. i wanted to crawl under the chair and hide the only problem i would not fit. all the women in my family have always struggled with their weight. by the way i am 5'4 and 235ibs. i also dont think my weight is going anywhere! i eat healthy and work out but it does not budge.


    hugs to you!

    teresa
  • joannstar
    joannstar Member Posts: 403 Member
    I've had a weight
    problem all my life.
    I lost 66 pounds during 2009, then I got married and through celebrating and diagnosis (4 months later) I gained almost all back. That has been the worst part of this journey for me, because no one (onc or rad) would let me lose weight once treatment started. So now I'm finished with all treatment and I can try to focus on losing weight, but it is so hard!!!
    I'm 5'8" and weigh about 243...I walked as a SURVIVOR in our Relay for Life on 4/1/11--my last day of treatment and it was so hard--I did 3 laps and figure walking to the park and back was equal to another lap, so I managed to walk a mile.
    I know that I must exercise and eat less carbs -- what a challenge.
    And on top of this, I'm losing my job and need to start job hunting so I would really like to feel better about myself. As it is, I have 1" long salt and pepper hair (which I like, but I don't look as young as I did with dyed blond hair) and at 58, I'm not sure whether I'll need to start dying my hair again.
    Isn't just surviving breast cancer enough??
    I totally understand where you are coming from
    I wish you luck.
    Hugs,
    JoAnn
  • Lynn Smith
    Lynn Smith Member Posts: 1,264 Member
    joannstar said:

    I've had a weight
    problem all my life.
    I lost 66 pounds during 2009, then I got married and through celebrating and diagnosis (4 months later) I gained almost all back. That has been the worst part of this journey for me, because no one (onc or rad) would let me lose weight once treatment started. So now I'm finished with all treatment and I can try to focus on losing weight, but it is so hard!!!
    I'm 5'8" and weigh about 243...I walked as a SURVIVOR in our Relay for Life on 4/1/11--my last day of treatment and it was so hard--I did 3 laps and figure walking to the park and back was equal to another lap, so I managed to walk a mile.
    I know that I must exercise and eat less carbs -- what a challenge.
    And on top of this, I'm losing my job and need to start job hunting so I would really like to feel better about myself. As it is, I have 1" long salt and pepper hair (which I like, but I don't look as young as I did with dyed blond hair) and at 58, I'm not sure whether I'll need to start dying my hair again.
    Isn't just surviving breast cancer enough??
    I totally understand where you are coming from
    I wish you luck.
    Hugs,
    JoAnn

    I know some of how you feel
    I had a total hysterocomy.That's supposed to lower your estrogen.I was dx with bc cancer years later.I did the right thing and took no hormones with a bc family history.Then after dx I am told I need to take tamoxifin(a anti estogen pill) to block my estrogen.I've never been told my what my levels are but must be high.And my husband says it's high!!!

    I've had high blood pressure since I was in my early 30's.I was Watched for 6 months and then put on meds. I believe mine was stress, a major operation with complications and also was in a car wreck(pressure was high after the wreck).Alot going on then.I am 5'1 and 120 lbs.About right.Alot has to do with family history, your body chemistry and like me had alot going on and surgery.Of course I will never go off bp med.Been taking the it for 30 years.If I did my heart would race(get out of whack).

    My problem is trying to gain a few pounds.In fact just being 10 lbs heavier would make me feel better about myself. People ask me if I am sick and it upsets me.NO I'm not sick!!!!!!


    Some insight and serious consequences

    I Wish you the best.Once you are dx with high bp likely not anything is going to change.NEVER go off the meds and if they say you have high pressure take the meds.A friend and classmate decided after taking her bp meds and having a perfect blood pressure for a while to go off it.A few months later she had a stroke.It was devastating.She was in therapy for over a year.Back home in a wheelchair and care from her husband and her daughter that had a young child. Her husband retired to take care of her full time.He was dx with cancer and passed away.Very very sad thing that I will never forget. She's now moved away to be with her son.It got hard for her daughter.We all miss her. She was the brightest, most brilliant, attractive person and now this since she was in her late 40's.Now 64.

    Lynn Smith
  • ms.sunshine
    ms.sunshine Member Posts: 707 Member
    joannstar said:

    I've had a weight
    problem all my life.
    I lost 66 pounds during 2009, then I got married and through celebrating and diagnosis (4 months later) I gained almost all back. That has been the worst part of this journey for me, because no one (onc or rad) would let me lose weight once treatment started. So now I'm finished with all treatment and I can try to focus on losing weight, but it is so hard!!!
    I'm 5'8" and weigh about 243...I walked as a SURVIVOR in our Relay for Life on 4/1/11--my last day of treatment and it was so hard--I did 3 laps and figure walking to the park and back was equal to another lap, so I managed to walk a mile.
    I know that I must exercise and eat less carbs -- what a challenge.
    And on top of this, I'm losing my job and need to start job hunting so I would really like to feel better about myself. As it is, I have 1" long salt and pepper hair (which I like, but I don't look as young as I did with dyed blond hair) and at 58, I'm not sure whether I'll need to start dying my hair again.
    Isn't just surviving breast cancer enough??
    I totally understand where you are coming from
    I wish you luck.
    Hugs,
    JoAnn

    I too have to much estrogen
    Dr. said same thing to much estrogen. But, I have never been over weight. I am now 40 lbs. over weight thanks to the steroids I had to take during chemo. I do have my ovaries, I wonder if that could be the reason.

    I wish you the best, and don't give up.
  • Lynn Smith
    Lynn Smith Member Posts: 1,264 Member

    I too have to much estrogen
    Dr. said same thing to much estrogen. But, I have never been over weight. I am now 40 lbs. over weight thanks to the steroids I had to take during chemo. I do have my ovaries, I wonder if that could be the reason.

    I wish you the best, and don't give up.

    OOOOPPPPSSS
    I answered the estrogen but thought you mentioned high blood pressure.It was a fatty liver and overweight.I am sorry,Forget the high blood pressure part. But do listen to your doctor about the fatty liver.And a risk of cancer.I truly believe that.I have kidney stones.They want to X ray me all the time to see if I have more.IMO all they are doing is maybe making it likely for me to get kidney cancer.

    Lynn Smith
  • laughs_a_lot
    laughs_a_lot Member Posts: 1,368 Member
    weight /estrogen
    I am wondering if any of this has to do with thyroid problems? If your thyroid is not functioning well you can be either way over weight or way underweight. I also know that estrogen is stored in body fat. So if you are overweight you will naturally have more estrogen than average.
  • gagee
    gagee Member Posts: 332
    Me toooo...
    I am in the same boat with you. Have had a weight problem all my life. Even when it was only 10-20 over I was still very big. I am 5'8 1/2" and quite big boned. When I was in the 5th grade I had a 30 in. waist. Teased all my life from family and just would eat to comfort myself. Now I weigh 280 or a little more some days. When I had my lumpectomy I was 281 and went up to 295 on the arimidex and from side effects. I am off the arimidex because of so many side effects but some will never go away. My joints (every where) are so swollen and have to now take rematiod meds. You don't need to anymore bad stuff but know you are not alone. On top of all this my girls weren't and still not there for me. So my husband and I just do what we can. Without him I would be lost. Cancer has been the worst thing and messed me up so badly. If you believe .. it does help me get through most of this. Still bad days but most are bearable. Wish I could do someting about my weight. I know I should walk but will tomorrow .. if you know what I mean.

    Just want to let you know you are not alone. I some times go to the chat room on here. They are nice and you can talk back and forth.

    Hugs and Prayers to you, Diana (almost same name)
  • cahjah75
    cahjah75 Member Posts: 2,631
    Dianne
    Although my onc never said anything, I too am obese. My gyn is starting me on a new weight loss program next week. I have been on Arimidex since January and have been told it's hard to lose weight. I'm hoping that I have no difficulties. Last year I had a liver scan and was told I had a fatty liver. TG I don't have diabetes (yet)! I gained 80 lbs during menopause and have lost up to 35 of them 2x since. I regained it all this past 9 months. It is scary to know that fat stores estrogen and my bc was definitely estrogen related. All we can do is try our best. Praying for you that all goes well.
    {{hugs}} Char
  • BioAdoptMom
    BioAdoptMom Member Posts: 358
    It sounds like you are
    It sounds like you are really busy and may not have much time on your hands, but have you thought about joining a gym and working out. Seriously, that was the one thing that helped DH and I both start losing weight. It boosts your metabolism and helps you burn calories even when you're not being active, as long as you do it regularly (about 5 days a week). It was the best thing we ever did for our health! Then after you start that, just cut your portions by 1/3. The exercise combined with consuming a bit less calories will help you lose, slowly, but hey, that's the best way to do it. I understand the struggle! (((HUGS)))

    Nancy
  • natly15
    natly15 Member Posts: 1,941
    Dianne I so empathize with
    Dianne I so empathize with you. I'm almost 5"2 and have always struggled with weight. My onc also wants me to loose weight because of my fat belly and the estrogen it holds. So what do I do, gain 4 pounds instead of loosing. I'm much more sedentary now an it is not easy. I'm a wieght watchers lifetimer but havent been motivated to start weight watchers again. By the way 4 or 5 pounds on someone my height looks like 10 pounds. I joined the gym but must admit it built up muscle and I did not loose weight. Cutting way back on calories with exercise is the only solution so it seems. Hang in there sister, I was down about this yesterday wondering how I'm going to attack it this time. so many of us are in the same boat.
  • Hippiechick58
    Hippiechick58 Member Posts: 320

    It sounds like you are
    It sounds like you are really busy and may not have much time on your hands, but have you thought about joining a gym and working out. Seriously, that was the one thing that helped DH and I both start losing weight. It boosts your metabolism and helps you burn calories even when you're not being active, as long as you do it regularly (about 5 days a week). It was the best thing we ever did for our health! Then after you start that, just cut your portions by 1/3. The exercise combined with consuming a bit less calories will help you lose, slowly, but hey, that's the best way to do it. I understand the struggle! (((HUGS)))

    Nancy

    Nancy, We have a home gym.
    Nancy, We have a home gym. And I mean gym! The room holds a treadmill, spin bike, elliptical and home gym. We have weights, kettle balls, ab machine, bands. You name it, we have it!We even have a big screen tv in there! My husband works out 5-6 days a week. I used to work out, but quit because I am too lazy and have no energy. BUT, lo and behold I got on the treadmill yesterday for 20 mins! Please pray that I keep up with it! Thank you for your post.

    Be Well,
    Dianne
  • Hippiechick58
    Hippiechick58 Member Posts: 320
    natly15 said:

    Dianne I so empathize with
    Dianne I so empathize with you. I'm almost 5"2 and have always struggled with weight. My onc also wants me to loose weight because of my fat belly and the estrogen it holds. So what do I do, gain 4 pounds instead of loosing. I'm much more sedentary now an it is not easy. I'm a wieght watchers lifetimer but havent been motivated to start weight watchers again. By the way 4 or 5 pounds on someone my height looks like 10 pounds. I joined the gym but must admit it built up muscle and I did not loose weight. Cutting way back on calories with exercise is the only solution so it seems. Hang in there sister, I was down about this yesterday wondering how I'm going to attack it this time. so many of us are in the same boat.

    Thank you Pink Ladies
    I want to thank everyone who posted re: my struggle. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. You are the best! You are all in my thoughts and prayers!

    Be Well,
    Dianne
  • NJMom10
    NJMom10 Member Posts: 176

    Thank you Pink Ladies
    I want to thank everyone who posted re: my struggle. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. You are the best! You are all in my thoughts and prayers!

    Be Well,
    Dianne

    I lost 90 lbs Dianne...start slow
    Dianne,
    Saw your post and had to respond. About 4 years ago I weighed 270 lbs. I gained it gradually over a period of 12 years, from the time my daughter was born. My doc put me on BP meds and I didn't want to have to take them so I vowed I would lose weight. The doc said, "Good Luck but most people don't succeed." That was all I needed...a challenge!

    I started very, very slowly...just like you said...I only hit the treadmill each day for 20 mins. I found that getting into the habit of exercising was actually the biggest hurdle. After a few weeks, I had established the habit and started to increase the time I spent on the treadmill. After about 2 years I was on the elliptical at a gym for 50-60 minutes doing very intense workouts AND doing a strength training rotation on the weight machines 3 times a week.

    I used the weight watchers plan to diet...and I never felt hungry. The plan gives you a lot of food and you can eat whatever you want. If you want to binge on low fat ice cream all day, go ahead. I do eat a balanced diet though but I am never without my favorite low fat ice cream in the frig!

    I lost 93 lbs over a period of 3 years. It was a very slow process. I was down to 177 lbs last summer. Now the downer part. Since last summer I gained 30 lbs. I'm up to 207. But then I was presented a challenge again. BC, chemo, radiation and tamoxifen. "No one can lost weight on tamoxifen." Hmmmmmm...

    Last week, I started walking on the treadmill, 30 mins each day. And yesterday, my husband and I went to the gym for the first time since last fall and I managed 30 minutes on the elliptical. I felt very self concious in my wig and 30 lbs heavier amongst all those trim body building kids. But you know what...screw 'em. I'm gonna do it. AND YOU CAN DO IT TOO!!! Try it Dianne. The more you do it, the better you will feel. It will make everyting easier, even taking care of your mom.

    Just a last note, on this very lengthy post. Over this past weekend, I told my husband, I want to start going to the gym Monday. When I came home from work yesterday, I had second thoughts and went through a whole meltdown. "I'm not going. I'm too ugly. I'm too fat. Everyone is going to look at me in the wig. I can't do it." My husband was mad. We almost didn't go. But finally I said, "OK, screw it, just 20 minutes. Let's go." And you know what, it felt great! The kids are too busy looking at their own muscle bodies, they didn't even notice me. I can't wait to go back again. As the Nike ad says...just do it. Just that one time. Good Luck. Hope this helps. Sorry so long!!
  • Gabe N Abby Mom
    Gabe N Abby Mom Member Posts: 2,413

    Nancy, We have a home gym.
    Nancy, We have a home gym. And I mean gym! The room holds a treadmill, spin bike, elliptical and home gym. We have weights, kettle balls, ab machine, bands. You name it, we have it!We even have a big screen tv in there! My husband works out 5-6 days a week. I used to work out, but quit because I am too lazy and have no energy. BUT, lo and behold I got on the treadmill yesterday for 20 mins! Please pray that I keep up with it! Thank you for your post.

    Be Well,
    Dianne

    Congratulations on your 20
    Congratulations on your 20 minutes! So many of us struggle with this issue, and have for years. I lost 35 pounds on my journey, and am watching very closely to make sure it doesn't come back! Since my dx, I have become more and more sedentary...too much time at the computer and in front of the tv. So I'm walking every day, 30 minutes around the park. I only started a few days ago, so I know how challenging that 20 minutes was for you.

    I also have a guided imagery/meditation on weight loss that I listen to most days. It's not quite a half hour and I really like it. It's relaxing, but it also talks about my body working at the cellular level, about allowing the amino acids to do their job and carry the fat away. It's from my health care provider and it's free, here's the link if you'd like to try it.

    http://www.permanente.net/homepage/kaiser/pages/f49055.html

    Hugs,

    Linda
  • Lynn Smith
    Lynn Smith Member Posts: 1,264 Member
    NJMom10 said:

    I lost 90 lbs Dianne...start slow
    Dianne,
    Saw your post and had to respond. About 4 years ago I weighed 270 lbs. I gained it gradually over a period of 12 years, from the time my daughter was born. My doc put me on BP meds and I didn't want to have to take them so I vowed I would lose weight. The doc said, "Good Luck but most people don't succeed." That was all I needed...a challenge!

    I started very, very slowly...just like you said...I only hit the treadmill each day for 20 mins. I found that getting into the habit of exercising was actually the biggest hurdle. After a few weeks, I had established the habit and started to increase the time I spent on the treadmill. After about 2 years I was on the elliptical at a gym for 50-60 minutes doing very intense workouts AND doing a strength training rotation on the weight machines 3 times a week.

    I used the weight watchers plan to diet...and I never felt hungry. The plan gives you a lot of food and you can eat whatever you want. If you want to binge on low fat ice cream all day, go ahead. I do eat a balanced diet though but I am never without my favorite low fat ice cream in the frig!

    I lost 93 lbs over a period of 3 years. It was a very slow process. I was down to 177 lbs last summer. Now the downer part. Since last summer I gained 30 lbs. I'm up to 207. But then I was presented a challenge again. BC, chemo, radiation and tamoxifen. "No one can lost weight on tamoxifen." Hmmmmmm...

    Last week, I started walking on the treadmill, 30 mins each day. And yesterday, my husband and I went to the gym for the first time since last fall and I managed 30 minutes on the elliptical. I felt very self concious in my wig and 30 lbs heavier amongst all those trim body building kids. But you know what...screw 'em. I'm gonna do it. AND YOU CAN DO IT TOO!!! Try it Dianne. The more you do it, the better you will feel. It will make everyting easier, even taking care of your mom.

    Just a last note, on this very lengthy post. Over this past weekend, I told my husband, I want to start going to the gym Monday. When I came home from work yesterday, I had second thoughts and went through a whole meltdown. "I'm not going. I'm too ugly. I'm too fat. Everyone is going to look at me in the wig. I can't do it." My husband was mad. We almost didn't go. But finally I said, "OK, screw it, just 20 minutes. Let's go." And you know what, it felt great! The kids are too busy looking at their own muscle bodies, they didn't even notice me. I can't wait to go back again. As the Nike ad says...just do it. Just that one time. Good Luck. Hope this helps. Sorry so long!!

    NJ MOM10
    That is amazing losing all that weight. I dont have a weight problem but I want Oh so much to gain 10 lbs.It's hard to do.I see what you did and WOW awesome.

    Keep up the good work. You will soon be losing the other 30 lbs after your treaments.For the wig I see more and more people just putting on a scarf.I see it all the time when I go shopping.My friend used a scarf but she still had some hair.She didn't lose all her hair.She was a receptionist in a dentist office.She saw alot of people all day.

    Neat both you and your husband are working out together.Good luck to both of you.

    Lynn Smith
  • Jean 0609
    Jean 0609 Member Posts: 2,462
    Hi Dianne,
    Losing weight is probably one of the most difficult things to do. It goes on so easy and fast and comes off so hard and slow. Please don't give us. Congratulations on your time on the treadmill. It's a start. Anything is better than nothing. Maybe since the weather is breaking and it is staying light longer, you may decide to take up walking. Start slow and for just a few minutes each day. Increase by one or two minutes each day. I do Weight Watchers, but it is not for everyone. I need to be accountable and couldn't do it on my own. Hang in there, and please let me know if I can help you in any way.

    xoxo,
    Jean
  • Hippiechick58
    Hippiechick58 Member Posts: 320
    Jean 0609 said:

    Hi Dianne,
    Losing weight is probably one of the most difficult things to do. It goes on so easy and fast and comes off so hard and slow. Please don't give us. Congratulations on your time on the treadmill. It's a start. Anything is better than nothing. Maybe since the weather is breaking and it is staying light longer, you may decide to take up walking. Start slow and for just a few minutes each day. Increase by one or two minutes each day. I do Weight Watchers, but it is not for everyone. I need to be accountable and couldn't do it on my own. Hang in there, and please let me know if I can help you in any way.

    xoxo,
    Jean

    Thanks Jean, I will. Thank
    Thanks Jean, I will. Thank you for your kind offer. I am doing a little better today. Reading the posts has helped me quite a bit! I think I'll get on the treadmill again today!

    Thanks Again,
    Dianne
  • Jean 0609
    Jean 0609 Member Posts: 2,462

    Thanks Jean, I will. Thank
    Thanks Jean, I will. Thank you for your kind offer. I am doing a little better today. Reading the posts has helped me quite a bit! I think I'll get on the treadmill again today!

    Thanks Again,
    Dianne

    Go Dianne!
    Yes, get on that treadmill, if just for a little while! Go Girl!

    xoxo,
    Jean