New member and diagnosed with tonsil cancer with one lymph node mets

arlenearn
arlenearn Member Posts: 1 Member
edited March 2014 in Head and Neck Cancer #1
Hi,
I am new this discussion board. I was wondering if anyone out there has had HPV squamous cell carcinoma of the tonsil and one mets to the lymph node. If so what treatment did you do adn how was the outcome? I have been told that surgery and radiation had similar outcomes as radiation and chemo. I have decisions to make before too late and would like to hear from you all. Thank you in advance for your replys.
Arlene

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  • kingcole42005
    kingcole42005 Member Posts: 178
    Hi Arlene,
    Hi Arlene, You've definitely come to the right place. Many people here will be able to help you. I'm sorry for your diagnosis, I know how it feels, very very scary. I do not have the same type of cancer as you but there are many on these boards that do and will answer very shortly. Good luck to you. Shelly
  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member
    Welcome Aboard
    Hi Arleen, welcome to the forum, great folks here and tons of experience;

    I had exactly what you mention, STG III SCC Right Tonsil, one node (tumor) on the same side, HPV+.

    I was diagnosed on January 2, 2009..went through the treatment below, ending mid June 2009. To date I am NEd (No Evidense of Disease), and pretty much back to normal...(if I was ever really normal, I'm more abi-normal).

    When I had mine cancer, my ENT whom is the best, said it really depends on what seems to be working the best currently. For me that meant nine weeks (three week cycles) of Cisplatin, Taxotere and 5FU through a port that had been surgically implanted. That was followed with seven weeks of concurrent (weekly Carboplatin and daily Radiation (35 days)). I could have just as easily gone the concurrent first then strictly chemo latter. But the were insistant to get the best results that it included both chemo and radiation for me, other than the tonsils came out on January 5, 2009.

    On me the tonsils were the primary, and the single node tumor was the secondary. Either having the second location on the same side or the size of the tumor classified it as STG III SCC (also later determined HPV+). If it would have been more nodes (I believe) or for sure traveled also to the other side, it would have been classified as STG IV.

    It is very common in this type of cancer to have a primary and a secondary. Unfortunately some never know for sure where they primary is.

    I also had the tonsils removed, no additional surgery, and after the third cycle, the tumor had dissolved and remains gone.

    I might question if they have found a tumor, and if the tonsils were infected also, why they aren't opting for both radiation and chemo though.

    I'm 56, and was in good health going in. My MD's felt that they would hit me with everything I could handle and go for the total kill. They felt I was young and healthy enough to take it, and hopefully kill it for good leaving me with as many years as possible.

    No PEG, minimal sides other than no solid food for about seven weeks (last portion of radiation and next few thereafter). I lost most taste and saliva for about a month or so, but now after 18+ months, I have regained about 90 - 95% of both back.

    Best,
    John
  • luv4lacrosse
    luv4lacrosse Member Posts: 1,410 Member
    SCC OF TONSIL
    Hi Arlene and welcome to the group. I was diagnosed on July 2nd with SCC of my Right Tonsil and soft tissue near base of Tongue and soft palate. I had METS to 19 of the 23 nodes removed from the Right side of my neck. I opted for the "all out assault." I had a total of 3 surgeries. The first was emergency surgery to stop the bleeding of the tumor on my tonsil as it ruptured. The 2nd surgery was for the Tonsilectomy and surrounding tissue, and the 3rd surgery was for the Modified Selective Neck Dissection. After healing from that, I then did 30 Radiation treatments and 3 Cisplatin treatments over a 9 week period. I am 10 weeks post treatment today and so far cancer free. Even as I continue to deal with the side effects of the Radiation and Chemo, I would do it all over again to achieve the result I have today.

    BEST!!

    MIke
  • Irishgypsie
    Irishgypsie Member Posts: 333

    SCC OF TONSIL
    Hi Arlene and welcome to the group. I was diagnosed on July 2nd with SCC of my Right Tonsil and soft tissue near base of Tongue and soft palate. I had METS to 19 of the 23 nodes removed from the Right side of my neck. I opted for the "all out assault." I had a total of 3 surgeries. The first was emergency surgery to stop the bleeding of the tumor on my tonsil as it ruptured. The 2nd surgery was for the Tonsilectomy and surrounding tissue, and the 3rd surgery was for the Modified Selective Neck Dissection. After healing from that, I then did 30 Radiation treatments and 3 Cisplatin treatments over a 9 week period. I am 10 weeks post treatment today and so far cancer free. Even as I continue to deal with the side effects of the Radiation and Chemo, I would do it all over again to achieve the result I have today.

    BEST!!

    MIke

    Goto to this web-site, join and check out alogorithm!
    Right tonsil, one positive node with focal extracapillary extension. T2N2aM0 If it hadn't been for the extracapillary extension I would have just done surgery and radiation; but had all 3 to be safe. Good luck!!

    Find out your TNM status then goto web-site; this is what your doctors should be going by to make a decision. These are National guidelines.

    http://www.nccn.org/professionals/physician_gls/f_guidelines.asp


    http://www.nccn.org/professionals/physician_gls/PDF/head-and-neck.pdf

    Best of luck!!

    Charles
  • Hondo
    Hondo Member Posts: 6,636 Member

    Goto to this web-site, join and check out alogorithm!
    Right tonsil, one positive node with focal extracapillary extension. T2N2aM0 If it hadn't been for the extracapillary extension I would have just done surgery and radiation; but had all 3 to be safe. Good luck!!

    Find out your TNM status then goto web-site; this is what your doctors should be going by to make a decision. These are National guidelines.

    http://www.nccn.org/professionals/physician_gls/f_guidelines.asp


    http://www.nccn.org/professionals/physician_gls/PDF/head-and-neck.pdf

    Best of luck!!

    Charles

    Hi Arlene

    I just want to welcome you here to CSN as I am NPC and not tonsil, just glad to have you here with us and hope you plane to stay

    Hondo
  • sweetblood22
    sweetblood22 Member Posts: 3,228
    hi arlene
    just wanted to welcoe you. i had scc mets to lymph nodes. i had my tonsils out as a kid tho. they never really ever found my primary. i had a biopsy under my tongue a few months before i found my lump, but it was alledgedly not cancerous.

    i found a swollen lymph node in october '08. went to primary doc in november. i knew i was screwed when the antibiotics didnt work. went to ent and fine needle biopsy showed scc. what started in october as just a little swollen lymph node was now the size of a large lemon. i had various scopes, pokes, and prods to try and figure out where the primary was. even a pet to no avail.

    finally had a neck dissection 1-9-09 wherte they took the tumor, my left salivary gland, and 23 lymphnodes. 3 were positive.

    i am also a fanconi anemia patient, and chemo was not an option for me. radiation is also very dangerous, but i did have 30 imrt from 4-6-09 to 5-15-09. i did have a feeding tube placed which i needed. would have died without it. i am left with side effects and some pain daily, but i am alive and still kickin. the worst side effects for me are my severe dry mouth and sticture from rads damage.

    you do have decisions to make, but dont be afraid to get a second opinion. i got three, because of my other illness involved. but even if i didnt have that, i would have gotten too.

    blessings,

    sweet
  • delnative
    delnative Member Posts: 450

    hi arlene
    just wanted to welcoe you. i had scc mets to lymph nodes. i had my tonsils out as a kid tho. they never really ever found my primary. i had a biopsy under my tongue a few months before i found my lump, but it was alledgedly not cancerous.

    i found a swollen lymph node in october '08. went to primary doc in november. i knew i was screwed when the antibiotics didnt work. went to ent and fine needle biopsy showed scc. what started in october as just a little swollen lymph node was now the size of a large lemon. i had various scopes, pokes, and prods to try and figure out where the primary was. even a pet to no avail.

    finally had a neck dissection 1-9-09 wherte they took the tumor, my left salivary gland, and 23 lymphnodes. 3 were positive.

    i am also a fanconi anemia patient, and chemo was not an option for me. radiation is also very dangerous, but i did have 30 imrt from 4-6-09 to 5-15-09. i did have a feeding tube placed which i needed. would have died without it. i am left with side effects and some pain daily, but i am alive and still kickin. the worst side effects for me are my severe dry mouth and sticture from rads damage.

    you do have decisions to make, but dont be afraid to get a second opinion. i got three, because of my other illness involved. but even if i didnt have that, i would have gotten too.

    blessings,

    sweet

    Hi, Arlene
    I had the exact same cancer you have. (Have you been told if yours is HPV-derived? If you haven't, it's a good idea to ask. Outcomes generally are more favorable if your tumor was HPV-derived, as mine was.)
    I was told at the outset that radiation was mandatory but chemo was optional. When I asked why I should have chemo if it's only optional, my chemo doc, Chemical Alice, told me it could improve my chances by 20 percent. I had the chemo: three rounds of Cisplatin. Cisplatin sucks, but it wasn't anywhere near as rough as the radiation.
    I was diagnosed in June 2008. My treatments ended Oct. 5 of that year. A couple of months went by and that one lymph node was still swollen, so on Jan. 20, 2009, I had a modified radical neck dissection to remove that and a whole bunch of adjacent nodes. The cancer was contained in that one bum node, and most of the cells were dead, but not all. All the other nodes were clear.
    It's a difficult road to travel, but this is a survivable cancer. I agree with Sweet: second and third opinions are good. I also can highly recommend going to a top-notch institution. I chose Johns Hopkins rather than my local podunk hospital, and I'm very glad that I did.

    --Jim in Delaware
  • debi4109
    debi4109 Member Posts: 7
    this is dated 2011,, how are

    this is dated 2011,, how are you today

  • KTeacher
    KTeacher Member Posts: 1,103
    debi4109 said:

    this is dated 2011,, how are

    this is dated 2011,, how are you today

    Welcome

    Welcome to our group.  You will find some very supportive people here.  Skiffin is very active on the site, you can read about his many fishing adventures here (I'm not sure if all of the fish stories are true!).  Kingcole checks in and is doing well, Sweetblood does not post here but is active on Facebook, she is doing well, Luv is fighing a good fight!  Unfortunately we lost Delnative.  Please start a new post and introduce yourself.  Stick around.

    Oops, can't forget Hondo.  He took some time off but is now posting regularly.  Irish checks in now and then.

  • debi4109
    debi4109 Member Posts: 7
    KTeacher said:

    Welcome

    Welcome to our group.  You will find some very supportive people here.  Skiffin is very active on the site, you can read about his many fishing adventures here (I'm not sure if all of the fish stories are true!).  Kingcole checks in and is doing well, Sweetblood does not post here but is active on Facebook, she is doing well, Luv is fighing a good fight!  Unfortunately we lost Delnative.  Please start a new post and introduce yourself.  Stick around.

    Oops, can't forget Hondo.  He took some time off but is now posting regularly.  Irish checks in now and then.

    Must be doing something

    Must be doing something wrong, I wrote a message and i guess it never posted, new diagnosis of early L tonsil CA, 1 node on same side, Dr. wants to do cyberknife/ went thru breast ca radiation and chemo in 2009/ been to this rodeo before/   best wishes to every one on this board/ has anyone done the cyberknife/ thx debi

  • KTeacher
    KTeacher Member Posts: 1,103
    debi4109 said:

    Must be doing something

    Must be doing something wrong, I wrote a message and i guess it never posted, new diagnosis of early L tonsil CA, 1 node on same side, Dr. wants to do cyberknife/ went thru breast ca radiation and chemo in 2009/ been to this rodeo before/   best wishes to every one on this board/ has anyone done the cyberknife/ thx debi

    Easy peasy

    I wish they could do Cyberknife from the very beginning.  I have gone through 3 surgeries followed by radiation to head and neck.  Reocurrance on skull and nerves on cheek last Sept.  Cyberknife, 5 days, about 45 minutes each time.  It was so much easier than previous radiation.  No burned skin, no mouth sores.  The only side effect was fatigue for about 2 weeks.

  • debi4109
    debi4109 Member Posts: 7
    KTeacher said:

    Easy peasy

    I wish they could do Cyberknife from the very beginning.  I have gone through 3 surgeries followed by radiation to head and neck.  Reocurrance on skull and nerves on cheek last Sept.  Cyberknife, 5 days, about 45 minutes each time.  It was so much easier than previous radiation.  No burned skin, no mouth sores.  The only side effect was fatigue for about 2 weeks.

    KTeacher, so glad to have you

    KTeacher, so glad to have you to "talk" to, what was your diagnosis?  I go this Tuesday to go over Cyberknife Treatment, believe me i hope to god I can do this and not the other. I have worked in the medical field for 29 yrs, when diagnosed 10 days ago, i started reading everything i could find, wow dont want any of that!!!  My doc is so great, he called said from what i have been thru, this report was really good, cancer on tonsil VERY small, said I have 9 lives/ geez i sure hope so.  Best wishes to you and everyone on here/ debi

  • joeykbasile
    joeykbasile Member Posts: 2
    Skiffin16 said:

    Welcome Aboard
    Hi Arleen, welcome to the forum, great folks here and tons of experience;

    I had exactly what you mention, STG III SCC Right Tonsil, one node (tumor) on the same side, HPV+.

    I was diagnosed on January 2, 2009..went through the treatment below, ending mid June 2009. To date I am NEd (No Evidense of Disease), and pretty much back to normal...(if I was ever really normal, I'm more abi-normal).

    When I had mine cancer, my ENT whom is the best, said it really depends on what seems to be working the best currently. For me that meant nine weeks (three week cycles) of Cisplatin, Taxotere and 5FU through a port that had been surgically implanted. That was followed with seven weeks of concurrent (weekly Carboplatin and daily Radiation (35 days)). I could have just as easily gone the concurrent first then strictly chemo latter. But the were insistant to get the best results that it included both chemo and radiation for me, other than the tonsils came out on January 5, 2009.

    On me the tonsils were the primary, and the single node tumor was the secondary. Either having the second location on the same side or the size of the tumor classified it as STG III SCC (also later determined HPV+). If it would have been more nodes (I believe) or for sure traveled also to the other side, it would have been classified as STG IV.

    It is very common in this type of cancer to have a primary and a secondary. Unfortunately some never know for sure where they primary is.

    I also had the tonsils removed, no additional surgery, and after the third cycle, the tumor had dissolved and remains gone.

    I might question if they have found a tumor, and if the tonsils were infected also, why they aren't opting for both radiation and chemo though.

    I'm 56, and was in good health going in. My MD's felt that they would hit me with everything I could handle and go for the total kill. They felt I was young and healthy enough to take it, and hopefully kill it for good leaving me with as many years as possible.

    No PEG, minimal sides other than no solid food for about seven weeks (last portion of radiation and next few thereafter). I lost most taste and saliva for about a month or so, but now after 18+ months, I have regained about 90 - 95% of both back.

    Best,
    John

    Skiffin I'm new today and want to post to this discussion board

    Maybe you can enlighten me with a step by step, on how.

    Thanks in advance Joe

  • lornal
    lornal Member Posts: 428

    Skiffin I'm new today and want to post to this discussion board

    Maybe you can enlighten me with a step by step, on how.

    Thanks in advance Joe

    New

    Under the title for the Head and Neck Cancer discussion page, there is a link : Post New Forum Topic.  Select that, and you should be starting a new topic under the H&N cancer.

    Lorna 2007 & 2014

  • wmc
    wmc Member Posts: 1,804
    Welcome to the H&N Group

    First welcome, and sorry you need to be here. My SCC was larynx, but there are many others that had tonsil and will be able to answer your questions and we all will be here fro support. My tumor was just above my latnyx and they took all of my larynx, but I still have my tonsils. They have threatened for many years that they would remove them but I guess not yet. We'll add you to my prayer list. I only had surgery and no chemo or radiation. I'm parcel to surgery and remove it and they can always do chemo and or radiation after. It is harder to do surgery last as the side effects on tissue.

    Bill  Oct 2013