Double Take on my diagnosis

fancynancy
fancynancy Member Posts: 20
edited March 2014 in Ovarian Cancer #1
I was diagnosed 2 1/2 years ago with stage 3 ovarian cancer. I've had my ups and downs. I seem to be doing good = Today I had to go for a "routine" CT scan of my pelvis, abdomen and chest. While waiting I read my Drs. report - stating I had "relapsed peritoneal carcinomatos due to ovarian cancer". Has anyone experienced that?

Now, I'm more nervous as I'm hoping this doesn't cause more problems.

Any info would be appreciated.

Comments

  • Lisa13Q
    Lisa13Q Member Posts: 677
    Dear Nancy
    I am sorry you had to find this out while reading the report, what does your doctor say? That's a fancy way of saying I think you are having a recurrance....But I am not an MD and don't want to speak out of turn. But your doctor should have explained where and what this is and how s/he is going to approach it. There are many many treatment options for this..many. And the fact that it has been awhile since your diagnosis is a very good thing. Again, your doctor should have explained this all to you.
  • Hissy_Fitz
    Hissy_Fitz Member Posts: 1,834
    Lisa is right....it means a
    Lisa is right....it means a recurrence of your original OVCA on the inside surfaces of the abdomen.

    This is really closer to the norm for us, rather than the exception, unfortunately. Eighty percent of all OC patients experience a recurrence within 24 months. Don't panic, though. Your doctor will, I'm sure, discuss second line treatment with you very soon.

    Carlene
  • zinaida
    zinaida Member Posts: 221

    Lisa is right....it means a
    Lisa is right....it means a recurrence of your original OVCA on the inside surfaces of the abdomen.

    This is really closer to the norm for us, rather than the exception, unfortunately. Eighty percent of all OC patients experience a recurrence within 24 months. Don't panic, though. Your doctor will, I'm sure, discuss second line treatment with you very soon.

    Carlene

    If your CA125 is normal, may
    If your CA125 is normal, may be your doctor put it this way, so CT technician will know what to look for or for insurance purpose to cover CT scan. Hope you will be all right, Zina.
  • debp26
    debp26 Member Posts: 11

    Lisa is right....it means a
    Lisa is right....it means a recurrence of your original OVCA on the inside surfaces of the abdomen.

    This is really closer to the norm for us, rather than the exception, unfortunately. Eighty percent of all OC patients experience a recurrence within 24 months. Don't panic, though. Your doctor will, I'm sure, discuss second line treatment with you very soon.

    Carlene

    I just don't understand why the recurrance???
    Hi Carlene. You seem to have a lot of knowledge on this subject and I'm still wrapping my brain around it. My doctor doesn't say a whole lot but I do see that he can't make eye contact when I hit him up with some really difficult questions. I just don't understand why women relapse, can you explain it to me? I guess we go for chemo and it is suppose to kill the cancer but why does it come back? Is it because the chemo didn't get all the bad cells? Or is it like a new cancer. I'm sorry to sound so stupid but I just don't get it and I refuse to read anything more on the internet. When I first got diagnosed the internet made me crazy with worry and it turns out much of the data is 10 years old. That is true right? Any information you can provide would be great. I'm BRAC-1 positive and I'm not sure what that even does for me! I hear it helps my family but no offense, who cares... I'm the one needing the help!

    Deb
  • leesag
    leesag Member Posts: 621 Member
    debp26 said:

    I just don't understand why the recurrance???
    Hi Carlene. You seem to have a lot of knowledge on this subject and I'm still wrapping my brain around it. My doctor doesn't say a whole lot but I do see that he can't make eye contact when I hit him up with some really difficult questions. I just don't understand why women relapse, can you explain it to me? I guess we go for chemo and it is suppose to kill the cancer but why does it come back? Is it because the chemo didn't get all the bad cells? Or is it like a new cancer. I'm sorry to sound so stupid but I just don't get it and I refuse to read anything more on the internet. When I first got diagnosed the internet made me crazy with worry and it turns out much of the data is 10 years old. That is true right? Any information you can provide would be great. I'm BRAC-1 positive and I'm not sure what that even does for me! I hear it helps my family but no offense, who cares... I'm the one needing the help!

    Deb

    I have to wonder why your
    I have to wonder why your doctor wouldn't tell you if he thought you were having a recurrence? Did you have an ultrasound before the "routine CT"? My peritoneal carcinoma was only observed on a CT scan, I had an internal exam that caught nothing, and the transvaginal ultrasound only saw enlarged ovaries and ascites. The peritoneal carcinoma was only listed in the CT report. Wishing you well! (Literally!)


    Hugs,

    Leesa

    PS: As far as why women relapse, I don't know the science behind it. It just seems that OVCA cells spread quickly and quietly to me. If cancer were a game of hide and seek, OVCA is definitely the odds on favorite.
  • Hissy_Fitz
    Hissy_Fitz Member Posts: 1,834
    debp26 said:

    I just don't understand why the recurrance???
    Hi Carlene. You seem to have a lot of knowledge on this subject and I'm still wrapping my brain around it. My doctor doesn't say a whole lot but I do see that he can't make eye contact when I hit him up with some really difficult questions. I just don't understand why women relapse, can you explain it to me? I guess we go for chemo and it is suppose to kill the cancer but why does it come back? Is it because the chemo didn't get all the bad cells? Or is it like a new cancer. I'm sorry to sound so stupid but I just don't get it and I refuse to read anything more on the internet. When I first got diagnosed the internet made me crazy with worry and it turns out much of the data is 10 years old. That is true right? Any information you can provide would be great. I'm BRAC-1 positive and I'm not sure what that even does for me! I hear it helps my family but no offense, who cares... I'm the one needing the help!

    Deb

    I typed a long, detailed
    I typed a long, detailed response, hit the "post" button, and pffftttt. It disappeared into the deep abyss of cyberspace.

    Recapping here....

    Your BRCA positive status is a GOOD thing. BRCA positive women fare better than the rest of us, statistically speaking.

    As for recurrence, it happens in all types of cancer. Cancer can come back because there were cancer cells left behind during surgery, or cancer cells had broken away from the primary cancer before the operation and spread to elsewhere in the body.

    All Cancer begins with a single cell that mutates. It is unlikely that any cancer treatment will kill every single cancer cell in the body. To do that, the treatment would have to be very strong and would have too many dangerous side effects. What doctors are trying to do is to reduce the numbers of cancer cells so much that there are too few cells left for the cancer to survive. They hope the remaining cells will be killed off by the body's own defenses - or will just die off naturally, as many cancer cells do when they leave the primary tumor.

    This is NOT a death sentence. There are many women on this board who have had more than one recurrence and are still going strong. I know one in "real life" that is 11 years out from her diagnosis (stage 3c) and she had one 12 month remission and the rest were 6 or 7 months. It keeps coming back and she keeps on kicking its butt.

    If I were you, I would have a heart-to-heart with my doctor, but that's just me. I made my doctor promise me that I would know everything he did, and I would be the first to hear it, after him. If he didn't have the cujones to tell me what was going on in my own body, I would seriously consider finding another doctor. Or I would at least insist on copies of all my blood work, all the radiologist's reports, etc. Again, though, that's how I feel. You get to decide how much information you want, but by golly, if you want that info, no one has the right to withhold it.

    Carlene
  • Tina Brown
    Tina Brown Member Posts: 1,036 Member
    Hello Sharon
    Sorry to hear this Sharon. Because you have ovca stage 3c it is possible that you have always had cancer cells in the peritoneum and this is not a new diagnosis???? Its a thought???? I do know that ovca can go to the peritoneum anyway.

    I am thinking of you take care Tina xxx