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Honestly there has been so much sadness here lately it makes me question what my expectations should really be. I do not want to just put on rose colored glasses and believe because I am NED that I have truly beaten cancer. I mean can you beat it for good or only win a few rounds to be taken down later by it? But then I think I am missing the whole point of being NED and that means being happy in the moment and tomorrow will take care of itself. What about you, where are you at with this?

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Can anything be beat?

Heart disease forums:
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http://www.medhelp.org/forums/Heart-Disease/show/114

Crohn's disease forums:
http://www.crohnsforum.com/

Ulcerative Colitis forums:
http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=38

Addisons-Diabetes forum:
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MS Forum:
http://ehealthforum.com/health/lyme-disease-mimics-ms-t131383.html
http://www.msworld.org/forum/showthread.php?t=103683

I hope that puts cancer in perspective.....

I try to concentrate on today, and if tomorrow comes, I'll try
to make the best of that, too.

Think good thoughts, and do your best to be as healthy as you can.

Stay well,

John

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herdizziness
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I don't think that when your NED, you'll know whether it'll come back, or you'll be completely free of cancer for the rest of your time here on this beautiful earth.
For me, I'm just grateful that I'm still here, that I saw another grandchild come into
my world, that I get to hold him.
I'm grateful for this chemo that has kept me here. While it has the neuropathy that I dislike, and though I long for a glass of that sweet ice water I used to drink, and to crunch on ice once again (that time will come I'm sure)I'm just happy to be alive.
Next month was supposed to be my expiration date, even with chemo. It won't be, I'll hopefully be here for at least a year, hoping for more.
I don't have to put on rose colored glasses because everyone around me seems to be wearing them. I'm the pessimist, their the optimists, we end up making a good team. For every thought of death I have, they have my life lasting.
So here's my thoughts, put on those rose colored glasses, enjoy your NED. Keep up with the check ups, but mostly if the board is making you sad or worried, leave for awhile. FORGET about the cancer for a while. Don't let the cancer you had define you. ENJOY LIFE!!!!

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I am new to this board and saw your posting and wonder the same thing. Will I just be living test to test wondering when it will return. How can it be prevented if we don't really know the cause in the first place? What do we do differently to stop it from returning? It is hard to be happy in the moment when I know I will always think about it. Maybe it will get better as time goes on. I am still in the why me and why now phase.

Everyone around me tells me to remain positive and not worry about tomorrow. Of course they don't have cancer and can't really relate.

I know the mind and spirit have a lot to do with beating cancer, so stay strong and be happy. Every day is a gift!

Take care,
Sara

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Good Vibes, we need good vibes! Kick arse! Do all you can to be healthy!! One foot in front of the other.......

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Christine,

Here is how I choose to look at it. I won the lottery, no not the financial one, the lottery of life. I'm thankful for each day now and really happy to watch things God has given us to look at grow from the top side instead of the root side. Oh yeah, we have a beautiful new puppy in our life too. Her name is Bailey and she is a handful, but in a good way.

Don

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In my opinion, it all depends. I'm an early stage survivor....NED after 25 months. May last much longer or cancer may decide to rear it's ugly head again. Can't be predicted. In some circumstances, you may well beat cancer - that is my hope at this point, but there are no guarantees. Regardless, the best thing for anyone is to be happy in the moment. I will take care of tomorrow because it is still in my power to do so and that I think is a key - it's in my power.

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You wanted a real answer, and all you got were cliches' from me
and the gang.

OK, Here:

Cancer is only a normal cell gone bad. It was supposed to die,
as any damaged or split 1/2 cell normally does - but only it didn't.

Instead, it decided to live on like an amoeba, using the fermentation
process by eating glucose and pooping lactic acid. The cancer cell
steals the glucose away from normal cells, and continues to grow.

It really doesn't want to kill us, since that will kill it also, but it has
no brain; no control over what it's doing. So it survives by living
it's life by stealing food from our body, and growing at whatever
rate it can to get even more food.

Western Medicine science just can't seem to interrupt the cell's
eating habits, even though many ideas and suggestions have come
to be. What's not totally ignored, seems to fall by the wayside
from a lack of investors that could further the possible usage of
the ideas.

If we can get our immune system to get rid of the cell that was
supposed to die, that would be the cure for cancer. Using chemicals
to try to kill a tumor, only kills normal cells and our immune system
along with it. Sure, it kills some cancer cells in a tumor stage, but
single cells will live on, under the chemical's radar.

Will cancer ever be cured?

That's a tough question. I'm a cynical SOB, because I know what
big business and economy thrives on. The cancer industry is just that,
an industry. It employees millions upon millions and reaps billions
upon billions of profit yearly.

I'm not a "conspiracy theorist", and I don't have black helicopters
flying about over my domain....... but one should face the stark
reality of this day and age.

"Trovax" was a pharmaceutical developed by Oxford BioMedica,
an offshoot of Oxford U in the UK. It was an anti-cancer vaccine
that encouraged a good immune system to focus on a cancer cell,
and destroy it.

Unfortunately, they could not get any investors to further the testing,
until one major chemotherapy drug manufacturer decided to buy into
the Trovax license.

That company insisted that Trovax be tested against cancers that
it hadn't previously been tested with, and used along with
chemotherapy drugs.

Well..... if the product is going to use a good immune system to
do the fighting, and chemotherapy usually destroys the immune
system.... what do you suppose would be the outcome of such testing?

Yup. Trovax failed test after test, and the investor gave the license back
to Oxford. No good; seeya'. They invested millions, but they continue
to make billions from products that are still in demand. Other investors
now refuse to invest......

Will cancer ever be cured?

There are other options to "big pharma", and one just has to have the
guts to seek the alternatives out.

Maybe not a cure, maybe a cure, but regardless..... not as many side effects.

I'd rather be healthy while trying to get better, wouldn't you?

The old adage: "what doesn't kill you, makes you better", can be
better afforded to the cancer within, than the body that's struggling
to remain alive.

"What doesn't make me sick, will make me better".

Best of health! You'll do fine, just keep your immune system
at it's peak!

John

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It's a good question, and one which many of us ponder (if not struggle with) regularly.

Certainly we all know people -- from this board and from other parts of our lives -- who have beaten cancer and who are, by any definition, cured. Hoorah and yea -- they keep us going and bring us joy.

But then there are others (including me). For me, right now, I think it is frankly unlikely that I will be looking at "cure". However, I think it is highly possible that I will be living -- and I mean "Livin'!" -- with this condition for a long long time -- occasional bouts of treatment, lovely stretches without - as I have been for the past almost 8 years. That's OK, for me -- truly OK.

There's an expression "Living under the Sword of Damocles" -- for those who live, NED or otherwise, after a diagnosis of cancer. We will probably never be as 'carefree' again. But, it sure sharpens the mind, doesn't it?!. For me, the struggle is to have enough 'heightened awareness' so that it improves the quality of life -- and the decisions we make about how to live our life -- without so much awareness that we are overcome by fear. I'm not saying I always get that balance right...but that's the challenge.

Tara

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the trick is to get the balance, I struggle with it daily, I am currently NED, but I do realize there is a good chance it will come back, I pray it doesnt, but I dont want to be naive and have it crush me if it does come back. Its a very hard balance....

Beth

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Can I beat this crap? Hell yes! Am I going to let this crap keep me in a constant depression mode? Hell no! I have a wife that needs me along with my 2 sons and their families. Plus, I just damn well enjoy living.

Any time you feel like it is all over but the shouting, give yourself the Golden Shovel Award. Known as the GSA. I wish we had a box on our post that others could check when they read a GSA post. When the box gets checked more then 10 times you would be required to seek professional help.

What you do with this award is go out in your back yard and start digging your own grave. Just maybe when your hands start blistering and your back gets weak you will realize it is much easier to have and keep a positive attitude. No one ever accomplished anything with a negative attitude.

I was told a long time back that you can put your emotions into four boxes. Mad, sad, glad or scared. At the start of this cancer mess I was just “scared”. I then turned to “mad” as hell. Now I am “glad” that I am still alive along with enough “mad” to keep fighting it.

I will admit I have had to give myself a GSA here and there in my journey. However, I can use my tractor to dig the damn grave. That makes it a lot easier. I am too damned old to dig it by hand.

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I love the golden shovel award. I don't want it but I like the concept . There are days I deserve it.

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Kerry,
Keep coming here! (Awesome info!)
Thanks Jan

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You ole' coot!!!!

I have this pic in my mind now of you driving a golden TRACTOR, digging it....ROFL!

Hugs, Kathi

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That's the bottom line. Obviously the whole part of being born is that we will one day die.
It's in the fine print on our Birth Certificates. Really, it is!

I happen to think NED is over-rated and/or that it gives people a false sense of beating death or something. I do remember finishing the first 12 round cycle of chemo (200 some odd treatments ago) and the nurses having this "party" for me and I got a balloon and lollipop or something like that. I thought "this is cool" but I didn't think it was over as far as cancer goes. I've been living with cancer for 6 1/2 years. I think the word living is the important part. I'm not about to wait until some doctor or test tells me I'm NED. I feel very good and that's what is important to me. I'm pretty sure that I could be NED and feel like crap. I'd rather feel good and not be NED at this point. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to hear that I'm NED but my main goal is to enjoy my time here. If I don't hear it then I don't hear it.

Just reading the posts on this site, how many times have you read that someone is NED and all excited about it, then a month later they are saying that their cancer is back and they are devastated. I have absolutely no desire to put myself through that. I feel I do not project gloom and doom for myself either. I just try to do my best to be in the moment as much as I can.

There is a quote that I like that goes like this:
"The truth is, once you learn how to die, you learn how to live."
~ Mitch Albom
This can also be looked at as coming to terms with one's mortality.

You say Christine that "But then I think I am missing the whole point of being NED and that means being happy in the moment and tomorrow will take care of itself." I believe that the whole point of LIFE is to be happy in the moment. We have little or no control over anything else. If we die from cancer, we die from cancer. Most of us probably stand a greater chance statistically speaking of being killed while driving to the doctors office than of dying from cancer.

So to answer your question Christine, YES I think cancer can be beat but do I think that hearing/seeing the words NED is what I am striving for, the answer to that is NO. At some point we all will no longer exist on Earth. I guess that makes us NED & DEAD
;-)

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Yup, I agree with you, phil....

As you know, both of my cancers (rectal followed closely by breast) were in the lymph system. No far mets..but, well, plently of 'dust bunnies'.

I fought long and hard for the opportunity to live life...so I AM living it!!! Let tomorrow take care of itself! That said, I watch what I eat, don't smoke, and drink plenty of water...I laugh every day, and try not to stress about stuff, as I used to...

Can it return? Of course, but, again, I'm not thinking too much about it...

Hugs, Kathi

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Kathi,
I like what you said, we all should live life to the fullest, and the fight was a tough one so more of a reason to live life.

Jan

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Love the picture! I have one close to it when we visited Spain. Such a fairy land that Guady built.

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The church was a bit overwhelming...but beautiful, as well!

Hugs, Kathi

(It was so HOT that day!!!...I was really using the fan...my beau just happened to catch it just right!)

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Very well said. I visited with a counselor several times during treatment, back in Nov/Dec '09. One of the things we talked about--what I was struggling with--is that I wanted to be okay with death (whatever that means). Even though my diagnosis was stage I rectal cancer and my doctors were thinking to cure it, cancer has a way of taking your Mortality out of the closet and setting it squarely on the table next to your cup of coffee, like it or not. So now I'm in the "waiting room," -- hmmm, recurrence? maybe, maybe not, maybe, maybe not...But Death? Definitely...now? tomorrow? next year? month? 30 years? who knows. And yes, you are correct, Phil. I looked at my birth certificate--and you might need it a magnifying glass to see it but it's certainly there, in fine print, just like you said. This awareness of our Mortality can lead us to a new appreciation of Life, to live in this moment of time right now.
Here's to Now.
~Audrey

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well said Phil and Kathi and Aud et al

and we're all skating on thin ice whether we are living with cancer...or not. Usually when pondering things like life and death, I enjoy reading poetry. Mary Oliver is one of my favorite poets because I like how she doesn't beat around the bush.

When Death Comes by Mary Oliver

When death comes
like the hungry bear in autumn;
when death comes and takes all the bright coins from his purse

to buy me, and snaps the purse shut;
when death comes
like the measle-pox

when death comes
like an iceberg between the shoulder blades,

I want to step through the door full of curiosity, wondering:
what is it going to be like, that cottage of darkness?

And therefore I look upon everything
as a brotherhood and a sisterhood,
and I look upon time as no more than an idea,
and I consider eternity as another possibility,

and I think of each life as a flower, as common
as a field daisy, and as singular,

and each name a comfortable music in the mouth,
tending, as all music does, toward silence,

and each body a lion of courage, and something
precious to the earth.

When it's over, I want to say all my life
I was a bride married to amazement.
I was the bridegroom, taking the world into my arms.

When it's over, I don't want to wonder
if I have made of my life something particular, and real.

I don't want to find myself sighing and frightened,
or full of argument.

I don't want to end up simply having visited this world.

With much love and respect, Leslie

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Very beautiful poem, Leslie. Thanks for sharing it; it really gives pause to think.

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Leslie,
Thank you for sharing that poem. It really says so much about life.

Aloha,
Kathleen

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Thanks for sharing your wisdom and experience. You're a great example of living in the moment.

Aloha,
Kathleen

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I agree. It is hard to come to grips with your own mortality but I believe the only way to truly heal is to get yourself in a spiritual and mental state where you are not afraid to die. I realize this is a lot easier said than done
Also, statistics do not apply to individuals and you never know what can happen. A perfectly healthy person could walk out he door today and get hit by a bus. There are people who are diagnosed with stage 4 cancer and don't live more than six weeks after their diagnosis and others who beat it or live way beyond anybodys expectations. You just have to do your best to enjoy the time you have because you never know.

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You are so right, it IS easier said than done. I certainly have days when it's really hard to have a good attitude and as it turns out, I have a crappy attitude that day and sometimes a few days. I usually can snap out of it and do not stay in a funk for too long, just as long as I need to I suppose. When I first heard those words "you have cancer..." I thought the worst and thought I'd be dead sooner than later. As it's turning out it's becoming later than I ever expected and it's not been as bad as it could have been either. It's all relative too I think. What is tolerable for one person may put another over the edge. I have surprised myself at times and I also get people asking me "how do I do it?". When you have few (if any) options it's quite easy I found. It might be like shopping in the old Soviet Union. You have 1 brand of crackers. It's real easy to choose what kind you want then.
;-

I still have little kids (16 & 10) I don't want to go anywhere anytime soon but I know that someday, ready or not I'll be gone. Like you said Eric, "You just have to do your best to enjoy the time you have because you never know."

AnneCan
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I find your words to be pure inspiration for me. You show people how to live with cancer + your attitude + sense of humour are really helping me on this journey. Thanks!

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Yes, I do believe it can be beat. I've always been a pretty optimistic person, and still am. When I was told I had cancer, I didn't wither or cry. I wanted to know what we need to do to get rid of it. Right now, I'm officially in remission. Did my kids wither and cry? Nope, I'm glad they got that from me. They laugh when I walk into walls or forget a name and I'm often corrected in some things I say. They and my husband are my reasons for living. That and I want to see my grand-kids that I might not ever get. At work, we make fun of it. I love making fun of cancer. I'm the bully in this fight.

Did I beat it? I really believe in my heart that I did. Like Kerry, I have a family that needs me. I am NOT going to dig my own grave. I cherish every day that God gives me and if I'm hit by a bus, so be it. I can die in so many other ways than cancer. God has a plan, and even though I may not understand His motives, I don't doubt for one second that He didn't know what He was doing.

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I still won't let this get me down. I just want to know what to do to treat me. I plan on living for a long, long time.

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Whether cancer can be beat or not I aint ready to die yet (and I'm now afflicted with two of the top three killers in the US).....I can't do sheit about yesterday and I don't know (no matter what my plans)if I'll be here tomorrow so the sensible thing is to live for now...which I try to do....I was told I was NED after my first post-everything CT last month and yet now this Mon I'm going into the hospital because fluid was then noted inside me inside my surgical site......so you never know......

I'm cognizant of the most current stats on stage 3 and mets (and I'm not a baseball fan)and I subscribe to numerous sites that provide me tons of reading on current research being conducted to better understand and defeat cancer but I still have to live. So based on everything I've learned, with concurrence from onc and other doctors, I'm trying to make myself as strong as possible as fast as possible (smartly tho)so if things are going to happen, hopefully I can defer it or at least be at full-strength to deal with what I'll need to deal with (I had never been as weak in my life as I was following colostomy--and the subsequent chemo further weakened me)But this phase is over......

I went to my first Relay last month and met people who've been living quite a number of years with their cancer--the first person I met began her journey(as a child of course) over 50 years ago!!! Others I met have been living for quite some time and looking at many, you'd never know it
When I'd see little kids entering the pediatric unit for theirs while I was doing my chemo, besides making me cry, I would then get real pissed and channel that anger into my own battle (anger/vengence has always motivated me, big time(tell me I CAN"T do something I want and I'll show you I CAN-watch!!))

It doesn't take much for me to appreciate living--just looking out my apartment's kitchen window, where the tree outside has now started to block my view-I love it: the clouds/sky above and greenery at eye level and below til the leaves wither and randomly,haphazardly drop; a bird here, a squirrel there, some wasps and dragon flies...I enjoyed so much this spot when I was able to get out of bed while undergoing treatment (and when that was all I could do); even more so now .

This disease has wrought so many changes in my life,not just medical,null and voiding much of what I had "planned' on doing now and down the road apiece (retired almost 5 years ago after thirty-three of working for same gov't org. Consequently,it was back to the drawing board and from now on, no matter what I do,my "third eye" will forever be on the lookout for those one or two (or three or four or five) cells that evaded the surgeons tools and chemo and radiation's destructiveness...... But NO WAY WILL I STOP FROM LIVING.......steve

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I can sure relate to your question, as for an answer well I think you have to "get there" yourself. We all have different ways of dealing with the various situations we find ourselves in. Taking control of our diet, exercising, education, etc.. are all ways we try to come to grips with where we are. A positive attitude is important but I know I wasnt whistling zip-a-de-do-da 24/7 before all of this so should I expect to do so now?
I hear so many stories of people who through a crisis such as cancer transform their lives. They become more, more religous, more active, more open, more caring, more tolerant. They create for themselves a life that from outside appearance anyway, is so much fuller, richer then the lives they had before the crisis. I keep looking for some grand awakening in myself. So far I havent found it. Mind you I am not waiting for this to happen, I am actively trying to find this source for myself.
I think (and this is just my two cents) maybe I am trying to find something that isnt there. Why should the fact that I have cancer suddenly answer questions that quite frankly I had before all of this. The fact that we may die sooner then we thought will definetly change things, but I doubt that the majority of us will suddenly find some well spring of inspiration that drives us to do great things or live some magical life. I am, within reason, the same person I was before Cancer. I always took joy in the little things, I wasnt a slave to my job, I loved my family dearly, and rejoiced in the life I was given. I took pride in the fact that my daughters would call us if they saw a beautiful sunset and didnt want us to miss it. I also struggled with who I was, where I wanted to be, etc...
I dont mean this as a negative, and I speak only for myself and my feelings, but I was an "average" guy before cancer, full of questions, doubts, and fears, why should I expect a life threatening illness to transform me into something I am not. I try to keep that in mind when I am stuggling with the "what the h@##'s".
I realize this may not be what you are looking for, but I think it has helped me deal with my current situation, so I thought I should post.
chris

dorookie
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I have struggled with this too, like where is the rebirth that is suppose to happen after something like this? Why is it others are having these life changing events and I am not? I couldnt and probably wont ever figure it out, I like you am just ordinary, I am a bit of a slave to my job, love my family so much, and I find peace and happiness in small things. Just a simple person, trying to live, love and laugh...

Beth

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"Just a simple person, trying to live, love and laugh..." thats it Beth!

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And yes, you have the secret to living...

Hugs, Kathi

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Re:
"I hear so many stories of people who through a crisis such as
cancer transform their lives. They become more, more religous,
more active, more open, more caring, more tolerant. They create
for themselves a life that from outside appearance anyway, is so
much fuller, richer then the lives they had before the crisis. I
keep looking for some grand awakening in myself."

".........So far I havent found it..................."
".......maybe I am trying to find something that isnt there....."

It ain't here either, Chris.

We all change for "the moment"..... but like after the 911 event,
we go back to being %^#$&*'s a few months later...

I personally do find, that I pay more attention to the things I
don't like in my life. I know my mortality, and I hate wasting
my remaining time on anyone that's being a pain in my stoma.

You may not feel as though you've changed a thing about yourself,
but it can be subtle, elusive to the eye... I'm willing to wager that
you are paying more attention to what time you think might be
remaining...... perhaps to contemplate what might become of
those around you..... the pets.. the family.. that pile of highly
valued garbage under the shop bench....

The things that went by unnoticed before the dreaded diagnosis,
are now billboards and sink-holes, interfering with our
daily life that we somehow begun to realize may be shorter than
we had planned.

It's the subtle changes, Chris.

But when you put all those very, very subtle changes into text,
you find you're no different than anyone else that's managed
to change into that "more" state of mind......

It's only illusive if you're looking too hard.

You can stop looking...... because you've already found it
awhile back...... you just didn't realize it.

But we knew you found it; It's that obvious.

Stay well, friend.

John

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Thanks could not said it better myself. Laura

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Chris,
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us. It sounds like you have a beautiful family and you have had the gift of appreciating the good things for quite some time. Beautiful!

Have a great weekend.

Aloha,
Kathleen

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When i first came to this site. I cried all day, because everywhere around me was metastic mestastic metastic. I felt like that there was no hope, but slowly I've come to take the cancer news of my mother day by day.

Do something good for yourself! Enjoy your life!

By the way does anyone know if you can get a pedicure/manicure while under chemo?

Hugs

Ketziah

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I got pedi's while on chemo, but my gal had a mother who had cancer and was very strict about being clean. With all her clients, not just her mom or me. You almost have to have someone who is almost obsessive with cleanliness.

Love and Hugs,

Holly

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Hi Christine, I don't know about everyone, but I know that I had a wonderful day and today I did beat it! Somedays are just hard no matter what you've got going and then there are those wonderful days.! Having something to look forward to really helps! I have a 2 1/2 yr. old grandbaby and a new one on the way. I have lots to fight for! Find your reason!! BEst to you...Jean

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We just have to live life and be positive. Enjoy the beautiful things and embrace all we can. It is not easy some days, but must move on .. Positive energy to you that you start to feel better..

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Graci,

As former drunk I can say you said it well. I put myself into a drunk farm 27 years ago this August. Never had a “slip”. What helped me was learning and knowing I was just wired a little different then most folks.

What I learned from that experience has helped me make it through this crap. One day at a time. I am no less or better then others. I just have a cancer problem to deal with.

Kerry

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Buzzard
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I want you to ask me that same question in 40 years cause both of us will still be here....Deal???....Love to ya, Buzz

coloCan
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(I;ll be pushing 100 then and still rockin')and not a day more or less!!!......steve

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I walked the Survivor lap at a Relay for Life last weekend. They broke us into categories of how long we've been survivor's. There were quite a few in the 25+ category. I'd say if you beat it for 25 years - the answer is yes, it can be beat.

I beat cervical cancer. Over six years NED now for that. I beat colon cancer. Just a few months NED at this point, but one day I'm walking in the 25+ group!

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Hi Christene,
There are always cracks in anything in life and some of us slip thru the cracks. I have been told by my surgeon and onc that I am cured of the cancer I had ,,,BUT watch out for new ones. Once you have fulfilled the criteria for getting cancer ,if the same conditions return ,you will get a new one. So I spend half of my life with a camera where the sun don't shine and the other half trying to fight off all the other things trying to kill me and that includes half the medicos I see. But yes there are some long term survivors I'm coming up to the end of year 13 my old mate Foxy(Virginnia from New zealand) ,I don't see her much on the boards anymore but she was stage 4 with a liver resection and she was a couple of years in front of me. There is Neon,2B healed,Stacey,Runnerz,Scouty and a heap more who have slipped thru the cracks and stayed vigilant. I class myself as one of lifes accidental tourists, there is nothing I did that makes me a better survivor than anyone else ExCEPT 'I walk on the cracks' :) Ron.

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lesvanb
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I like that Ron. Thank you for sharing.

all the best, Leslie

PS Thanks for this thread Christine. Timely for me :-)

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just4Brooks
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Cancer… It’s never really gone

It hits me when I’m at the park with my kids. It hits me sometimes late at night. It hits me when I see the sun set at the end of the day. It hits me when driving along listening to music. Sometimes even hits be when I’m gong to the bathroom. Cancer is never really gone from our thoughts and that’s the rough part of this fight. But I have today while many of my friends don’t. It reminds me of something I read. It was about this father taking one of his little boys to the park.

~ While at the park one day, a woman sat down next to a man on a bench near a playground. "That's my son over there," she said, pointing to a little boy in a red sweater who was gliding down the slide. "He's a fine looking boy" the man said. "That's my son on the swing in the blue sweater."

Then, looking at his watch, he called to his son. "What do you say we go, Todd?" Todd pleaded, "Just five more minutes, Dad. Please? Just five more minutes."

The man nodded and Todd continued to swing to his heart's content. Minutes passed and the father stood and called again to his son. "Time to go now?" Again Todd pleaded, "Five more minutes, Dad. Just five more minutes." The man smiled and said, "O.K."

"My, you certainly are a patient father," the woman responded.

The man smiled and then said, "My older son Tommy was killed by a drunk driver last year while he was riding his bike near here. I never spent much time with Tommy and now I'd give anything for just five more minutes with him. I've vowed not to make the same mistake with Todd. He thinks he has five more minutes to swing. The truth is, I get Five more minutes to watch him play."

I just want to stay around for my family for 5 more minutes

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tootsie1
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Made me cry with that one, Brooks. Just wonderful and a great lesson for all of us to learn.

*hugs*
Gail

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KathiM
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...I got my '5 more minutes' with my daughter before she died...it was Christmas...I hold it forever...

Hugs, Kathi

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