Anyone opted out of Radiation

smalldoggroomer
smalldoggroomer Member Posts: 1,184
edited March 2014 in Breast Cancer #1
I have been thinking allot about Radiation lately. I am in Chemo now. I have to have Surgery after that ( mastectomy right side ). Then I am suppose to have radiation. I know I have to discuss this with my Oncologist but have any of you opted not to have radiation? Does it really increase the odds enough of no recurrence later? I know you can get really burned by it. It is everyday for at least a month. I have to drive a hour each way. I just don't know if this will be worth it. If the Doc, tells me it increases your chances of no recurrence by 2% I don't think I will do it. But if it is 50% then there is no question I would have to do it. But then radiation causes cancer. I have scare tissue in my lungs from years of smoking ( I quite 8 years ago ) Can the radiation affect that turn it into cancer?? Sorry about the rambling
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  • calvertcrafts
    calvertcrafts Member Posts: 93 Member
    I also debated about
    I also debated about radiation. I went thru 7 weeks and while I hated every day of it, I never suffered severe burns, only minor skin irritation. I've spoken to several people who skipped rads and then had a recurrance. They all wondered if they had had the radition , would the recurrance have happened. I know it's a hard decision and my thoughts and prayers are with you!!
  • Lighthouse_7
    Lighthouse_7 Member Posts: 1,566 Member
    I also wanted to opt out. I
    I also wanted to opt out. I had 7 weeks every day except weekends. That was the reason that I didn't get it in Boston where I had my surgery. Just too far to travel everyday ( 1 hour ). I am sorry that you have to travel that far. Is there anywhere closer that you could have it? That is probably making you want to opt out more than anything. I was lucky to find a center closer that was affilliated with my Boston Hospital.

    As far as any other reason to opt out, I would not. If they say you need it, than I think you should. This is just my opinion but, I know how it was explained to me...as follows. Chemo will kill cancer cells (as well as good ones) but radiation will kill any lingering cells that might not be visable or detected yet. The little buggers can be hiding just waiting to attatch to something and spread. That's why that don't just radiate your affected area, but go beyond it's margins as well.

    There is no pain at all in radiation, just some fatigue, but we've dealt with that before! As long as you keep applying cream ( they give it to you ) twice a day, you shouldn't burn. I got red at times and it went away. Once when they radiated up to my collar bone and side of my neck, I did burn but not anything like black skin or anything, just stayed red and hot for a few weeks.

    BUT that was actually my fault, you see, I didn't know they were going up that high and I never applied the cream up there. I probably should have asked more questions in that area.

    If I had applied the cream in that spot, I bet I wouldn't have had any problem.

    It is always your decision in the end, but like a friend once told me, Radiation is a piece of cake after chemo.

    Best of luck whatever you decide.
    Keep us posted.
    Wanda
  • rene9
    rene9 Member Posts: 214

    I also wanted to opt out. I
    I also wanted to opt out. I had 7 weeks every day except weekends. That was the reason that I didn't get it in Boston where I had my surgery. Just too far to travel everyday ( 1 hour ). I am sorry that you have to travel that far. Is there anywhere closer that you could have it? That is probably making you want to opt out more than anything. I was lucky to find a center closer that was affilliated with my Boston Hospital.

    As far as any other reason to opt out, I would not. If they say you need it, than I think you should. This is just my opinion but, I know how it was explained to me...as follows. Chemo will kill cancer cells (as well as good ones) but radiation will kill any lingering cells that might not be visable or detected yet. The little buggers can be hiding just waiting to attatch to something and spread. That's why that don't just radiate your affected area, but go beyond it's margins as well.

    There is no pain at all in radiation, just some fatigue, but we've dealt with that before! As long as you keep applying cream ( they give it to you ) twice a day, you shouldn't burn. I got red at times and it went away. Once when they radiated up to my collar bone and side of my neck, I did burn but not anything like black skin or anything, just stayed red and hot for a few weeks.

    BUT that was actually my fault, you see, I didn't know they were going up that high and I never applied the cream up there. I probably should have asked more questions in that area.

    If I had applied the cream in that spot, I bet I wouldn't have had any problem.

    It is always your decision in the end, but like a friend once told me, Radiation is a piece of cake after chemo.

    Best of luck whatever you decide.
    Keep us posted.
    Wanda

    Hi-
    I have been going through radiation for the past 4 weeks. I have 9 more to go, so 9 more days (they were closed today for the holiday). I have not suffered any burns or irritation, at least not yet. I also completed 6 rounds of TAC in early May. I wanted to attack this with everything I could. I never knew or asked what the percentage is with me doing chemo and radiation. I had 2/16 lymph nodes involved and a left simple mastectomy with expanders placed at the time. I'll have my expander exchange in the near future. Then, I have decided I won't be monitored every year, I'll be monitored every 6 months. I'm not waiting a whole year! But, I didn't care if it was 2%, it was worth it. I can say I did everything-



    rene9
  • VickiSam
    VickiSam Member Posts: 9,079 Member
    rene9 said:

    Hi-
    I have been going through radiation for the past 4 weeks. I have 9 more to go, so 9 more days (they were closed today for the holiday). I have not suffered any burns or irritation, at least not yet. I also completed 6 rounds of TAC in early May. I wanted to attack this with everything I could. I never knew or asked what the percentage is with me doing chemo and radiation. I had 2/16 lymph nodes involved and a left simple mastectomy with expanders placed at the time. I'll have my expander exchange in the near future. Then, I have decided I won't be monitored every year, I'll be monitored every 6 months. I'm not waiting a whole year! But, I didn't care if it was 2%, it was worth it. I can say I did everything-



    rene9

    Smalldoggromer - I did not have radiation, but I endured a
    double or bi-lateral mac'tmy on 1/12/10. Please don't make any decisions under the time is near. Just continue to focus on your 'life' now during chemo treatments. Write down all your fears, and questions and continue with your list as chemo progresses. I am hoping and praying that sometime down this road .. things will become clearer for you.


    Strength and Courage.

    Vicki Sam
  • BlownAway60
    BlownAway60 Member Posts: 851
    I just finished radation
    I just finished radation last Friday. 7 weeks 33 treatments. It was a 30 to 45 minute drive for us. I had a lumpectomy and radition is required with a lumpectomy. I did not burn at all. My skin did get a little browner but nothing else. I am very fair skinned and everyone that saw me could not believe that I did so well. My rad onc told me that we all are different and that some do burn and some don't. I was one of the lucky ones.

    Hugs

    Donna
  • I just finished radation
    I just finished radation last Friday. 7 weeks 33 treatments. It was a 30 to 45 minute drive for us. I had a lumpectomy and radition is required with a lumpectomy. I did not burn at all. My skin did get a little browner but nothing else. I am very fair skinned and everyone that saw me could not believe that I did so well. My rad onc told me that we all are different and that some do burn and some don't. I was one of the lucky ones.

    Hugs

    Donna

    The thought crossed my mind...
    When the tumor board made their recommendations in February it was part of the package. Chemo always had some new twist as I traveled that road. I find myself now, having completed the chemo, dwelling less on details and simply tuning back into my life. I'm going to do the radiation early in the day and make plans for the remainder of each, treating myself to lunch, a movie, maybe a pedicure, or just window shopping. My radiation center has already encouraged me to take advantage of their free weekly massages and they have my 'playlist'. Radiation is looking a damn sight better than the chemotherapy. I have my creams and deodorant recommended by the center and I will meet yet another new set of friends as I visit over the next couple of months.

    As for the commute...hmmm, I do an hour each way each day when I am working. I have grown to think of my commute time as my special alone time. When I became a mom that was lost, even the bathroom wasn't sacred! I have time for uninterrupted thoughts, extended prayers, and sometimes wailing alone in my car.

    Weigh your options, love yourself and best wishes!
  • Rague
    Rague Member Posts: 3,653 Member
    I never gave it a second thought -
    I was going to do EVERYTHING possible to fight. (At week 10 of weekly Taxol [after 4 A/C and surgery], I was way past exhausted and my Chemo Dr told me I could stop getting that one and the last 2 as it had already done 85 - 90% of what it could do - not good enough for me I wan it to do 100% of what it CAN do - so I made it through.) In a way, percentages of the 'over all' mean nothing to me personally - either I get a reoccurance or I don't.


    I am one of the ones who did BURN badly - not a bad sunburn but the entire radiated area was open weeping wounds with it taking 6 weeks for the last scabs to come off the deepest of the burns. I only had tanning and freckling until the 23rd time and after the 25th (the last I had as no boosters were appropriate) it was a minor 'sunburn' but the next day it started really 'blowing up'.

    If I had known what would happen - would I have done it - your betcha. It was bad and I never want to go through something like that again but I made it through and IF the Monster comes back - I can look Hubby (of 34 yrs). Sons, and G-daughter in the eyes and say it's back and they will know for a certainity that I did all I could to keep it at bay for them - I didn't wimp out because it was easier. My feeling/How I handled it aren't for everyone - but they are right for me and mine. We're all so different - not just in the particular Beast we are fighting but in our entire life's journey.

    (I'm IBC [Imflammatory Breast Cancer] and it is a very aggressive form that doesn't have a very good long term survival rate - so 'fighting' with everything available was what I did.).

    Personally - getting even 1% more is worth it to me - but that is just me. Be true to yourself and do what is right for you and yours.

    May God Bless!

    Susan
  • MAJW
    MAJW Member Posts: 2,510 Member
    A Personal Decision
    We all have to decide what is right for us as an individual.....I personally wanted anything and EVERYTHING they could throw at my bc.........I had lumpectomy, 12 weeks of chemo and almost 7 weeks of radiation, 33 treatments the last 7 being boosters........I, personally, Never burned, didn't even turn pink until the 4th week........did and do experience the fatigue, but it was and is very manageable for me......I am triple negative....rather aggressive type. I never questioned NOT having anything and everything! Yes, there can be long term side effects of radiation.....for me, I'll deal with that down the road if some should show up.....I just didn't want to have any regrets down the road if the bc should return.......

    I wish you peace in making your decision.
  • smalldoggroomer
    smalldoggroomer Member Posts: 1,184
    thank you all
    Thank you everyone so very much.. I think I should have the radiation and do all I can do like all of you said. Better then being sorry later. I will have to see about finding some place closer to home to have the radiation. You have all been such a help to me through all of this. I don't know how I would have made it without you all. Thank you again Best wishes Kay
  • sbmly53
    sbmly53 Member Posts: 1,522
    I opted out of chemo,
    but not radiation. 33 treatments, a 30-40 minute drive. I burned - not as bad as some, but more than others. I, too, had concerns, but my surgeon - whom I love, admire & trust - assured me that it was the way to go.

    Arimidex now. I waited 3 months to start cuz I'm a chicken, but I'm doing well, so far.

    Sue
  • carkris
    carkris Member Posts: 4,553 Member
    sbmly53 said:

    I opted out of chemo,
    but not radiation. 33 treatments, a 30-40 minute drive. I burned - not as bad as some, but more than others. I, too, had concerns, but my surgeon - whom I love, admire & trust - assured me that it was the way to go.

    Arimidex now. I waited 3 months to start cuz I'm a chicken, but I'm doing well, so far.

    Sue

    From a person who had a
    From a person who had a local recurrence 16 years ago, i felt if they recommended it then I should do it. I did travel to Boston, 90 minutes each way but was worth it for the doc.
  • DebbyM
    DebbyM Member Posts: 3,289 Member

    thank you all
    Thank you everyone so very much.. I think I should have the radiation and do all I can do like all of you said. Better then being sorry later. I will have to see about finding some place closer to home to have the radiation. You have all been such a help to me through all of this. I don't know how I would have made it without you all. Thank you again Best wishes Kay

    I never even considered
    I never even considered opting out of rads if my oncologist and rads oncologist said it would help me. My husband and I drove over an hour one way everyday for weeks, but, so what? It was worth it to fight my bc. Driving was the least of our concerns. I would have driven 5 hours if it would kill any stray cancer cells left in me and that is what rads do. I never wanted to have a recurrence and then go " what if I would have done rads?". Rads aren't a piece of cake as some write. No treatment concerning bc is a piece of cake. They are all different and hard in their own way. I never burnt, but, got dark pink and had some tenderness. But, while I was taking the boosters, my other skin cleared up. And, within a couple of weeks when I was done with the boosters, my skin looks and feels like a baby's skin. It is beautiful. I wish you well with your decision. It is your decision and yours alone.
  • smalldoggroomer
    smalldoggroomer Member Posts: 1,184

    thank you all
    Thank you everyone so very much.. I think I should have the radiation and do all I can do like all of you said. Better then being sorry later. I will have to see about finding some place closer to home to have the radiation. You have all been such a help to me through all of this. I don't know how I would have made it without you all. Thank you again Best wishes Kay

    you have all changed my mind
    I will do the radiation for sure. I guess I was just having a stupid moment lets blame it on chemo.. Some of you have said something about having boosters?? Don't they do the rads in the same place each time? Do they do surrounding areas with boosters? Or are boosters just not as strong. Also did you get your cream from the Dr.? especially for radiation?? Is it RX? Thanks again Kay
  • MyTurnNow
    MyTurnNow Member Posts: 2,686 Member
    I'm glad to read that you
    I'm glad to read that you have decided to do radiation if it is recommended. Radiation is a localized treatment and is radiating the tumor site whereas chemo is systemic and is hopefully eliminating any rogue cancer cells in your body. I know you can do both and we will help to encourage and support you. Good luck and sending a (((hug))) your way!!
  • Pinkpower
    Pinkpower Member Posts: 437
    Rad
    Hi Kay, I can only offer my experience with Rad... Lumpectomy, chemo then radiation. Im hispanic with tan skin and I was one of the unfortunate that did get burned, my treatments where everyday for 6wks. by the 5th week I was very dark around my breast area and the area under my arm was so burned, worst then a sunburn, I was in so much pain, they gave me pain medicine and I took a wk off to heal a little. The week off helped alot, then I did my last week. I have healed under my arm and the darknest is clearing up quit nicely, so would I do it again... Yes, if I have to though I hope I never have to go thru that again... Ever! Just remember, everyone is different so good luck and we will be here for you.
    Lupe
  • Angie2U
    Angie2U Member Posts: 2,991

    you have all changed my mind
    I will do the radiation for sure. I guess I was just having a stupid moment lets blame it on chemo.. Some of you have said something about having boosters?? Don't they do the rads in the same place each time? Do they do surrounding areas with boosters? Or are boosters just not as strong. Also did you get your cream from the Dr.? especially for radiation?? Is it RX? Thanks again Kay

    Glad you are going to do
    Glad you are going to do rads! We all think twice about the treatments, but, in the long run, we know they will help us.

    The boosters are just to the tumor area and a little surrounding tissue. They are even quicker. So, you have regular rads from your collarbone to below your breast and under your arm. That will heal while you get boosters. Use your creams!
  • EveningStar2
    EveningStar2 Member Posts: 491 Member

    you have all changed my mind
    I will do the radiation for sure. I guess I was just having a stupid moment lets blame it on chemo.. Some of you have said something about having boosters?? Don't they do the rads in the same place each time? Do they do surrounding areas with boosters? Or are boosters just not as strong. Also did you get your cream from the Dr.? especially for radiation?? Is it RX? Thanks again Kay

    If
    distance is a factor, some ladies here have stayed in a hotel during the week to get their treatments--or the entire 6 weeks. I know some got some financial help from one of the cancer organizations--I just don't remember who.

    Maureen
  • EveningStar2
    EveningStar2 Member Posts: 491 Member

    you have all changed my mind
    I will do the radiation for sure. I guess I was just having a stupid moment lets blame it on chemo.. Some of you have said something about having boosters?? Don't they do the rads in the same place each time? Do they do surrounding areas with boosters? Or are boosters just not as strong. Also did you get your cream from the Dr.? especially for radiation?? Is it RX? Thanks again Kay

    If
    distance is a factor, some ladies here have stayed in a hotel during the week to get their treatments--or the entire 6 weeks. I know some got some financial help from one of the cancer organizations--I just don't remember who.

    Maureen
  • Rague
    Rague Member Posts: 3,653 Member

    you have all changed my mind
    I will do the radiation for sure. I guess I was just having a stupid moment lets blame it on chemo.. Some of you have said something about having boosters?? Don't they do the rads in the same place each time? Do they do surrounding areas with boosters? Or are boosters just not as strong. Also did you get your cream from the Dr.? especially for radiation?? Is it RX? Thanks again Kay

    Dr. P. explained it that the
    Dr. P. explained it that the initial rads (25 for me) are generalized to the entire area. Bosters are localized/restricted to area of the tumor/tumors, not the entire area. When you have a large affected area (as I did) then boosters can't be done as there is no small area to target. At Least that's how he explained it to me.
  • Kylez
    Kylez Member Posts: 3,761 Member
    Rague said:

    Dr. P. explained it that the
    Dr. P. explained it that the initial rads (25 for me) are generalized to the entire area. Bosters are localized/restricted to area of the tumor/tumors, not the entire area. When you have a large affected area (as I did) then boosters can't be done as there is no small area to target. At Least that's how he explained it to me.

    Smalldoggroomer, I am also
    Smalldoggroomer, I am also glad to read that you are going ahead with rads. It is one more treatment that can help you in your fight with bc.

    Boosters are given to the tumor site and are generally a part of the rad treatment anymore. They feel that some cancer cells can be left by surgery right at the tumor site and therefore the boosters are given at the end to just that site.


    Wishing you good luck!