how can we believe anything

ohilly
ohilly Member Posts: 441
edited March 2014 in Breast Cancer #1
I hope no one is offended by my reaction to the 'Kourtnee' matter, but how can we believe anything this person says? She could be telling the truth, but she could not be. I feel like this whole thing is one giant hoax. The thing that makes me the most angry is that when I heard 'Kourtnee' had died, I immediately started worrying about my own prognosis, as I'm sure others did.

Ohilly
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  • mmontero38
    mmontero38 Member Posts: 1,510
    #2
    There were many clues
    There were many clues leading up to this Ohilly. I had my suspicion from her second posting. Little hints that led up to my disbelief. I really feel saddened that someone would go to these extremes to get attention. What I would really like to know is who really is in the Kourtnee10 picture and now who is this jogger girl who claims her mother did all of this. CSI, here I come. Hugs, Lili
  • cruf
    cruf Member Posts: 908
    #3
    mmontero38 said:

    There were many clues
    There were many clues leading up to this Ohilly. I had my suspicion from her second posting. Little hints that led up to my disbelief. I really feel saddened that someone would go to these extremes to get attention. What I would really like to know is who really is in the Kourtnee10 picture and now who is this jogger girl who claims her mother did all of this. CSI, here I come. Hugs, Lili

    Glad I'm not the only one
    I'm so glad that both of you has brought up this concern. I have thought this from the beginning but I felt so bad that I felt this way that I didn't want to let others know. Everybody seemed so sincere and worried that I felt badly that I didn't believe it.. There were too many inconsistencies with things that were said. Also, how could someone who just went thru all this surgery wake up and write online! I feel bad if it isn't real but I would feel worse if I didn't believe and it were truely real. Thank you for opening up this question. I would like to hear what other people think! HUGSSSSSSS Cathy
  • CR1954
    CR1954 Member Posts: 1,390 Member
    #4
    mmontero38 said:

    There were many clues
    There were many clues leading up to this Ohilly. I had my suspicion from her second posting. Little hints that led up to my disbelief. I really feel saddened that someone would go to these extremes to get attention. What I would really like to know is who really is in the Kourtnee10 picture and now who is this jogger girl who claims her mother did all of this. CSI, here I come. Hugs, Lili

    Lili...
    I'm afraid that CSI wouldn't take me. I am far too trusting I guess, and I swallowed the whole story...hook, line & sinker, I'm afraid. I read the same posts that everyone else did, and I didn't catch the red flags that were there. Now that they have been pointed out to me though, I guess I should have.

    The thing that makes me so angry about all of it is the energy that I put into worrying, crying, praying for "Kourtnee". Energy that could have been better spent on other things.

    I don't trust that joggergirl is for real either. How can I? How can any of us?

    This whole matter both saddens and sickens me.

    CR
  • ohilly
    ohilly Member Posts: 441
    #5
    mmontero38 said:

    There were many clues
    There were many clues leading up to this Ohilly. I had my suspicion from her second posting. Little hints that led up to my disbelief. I really feel saddened that someone would go to these extremes to get attention. What I would really like to know is who really is in the Kourtnee10 picture and now who is this jogger girl who claims her mother did all of this. CSI, here I come. Hugs, Lili

    I really didn't know
    You guys are smarter than me. I had no idea this was a hoax. What were the 'clues'?

    Just curious.

    Ohilly
  • mmontero38
    mmontero38 Member Posts: 1,510
    #6
    CR1954 said:

    Lili...
    I'm afraid that CSI wouldn't take me. I am far too trusting I guess, and I swallowed the whole story...hook, line & sinker, I'm afraid. I read the same posts that everyone else did, and I didn't catch the red flags that were there. Now that they have been pointed out to me though, I guess I should have.

    The thing that makes me so angry about all of it is the energy that I put into worrying, crying, praying for "Kourtnee". Energy that could have been better spent on other things.

    I don't trust that joggergirl is for real either. How can I? How can any of us?

    This whole matter both saddens and sickens me.

    CR

    CR, Kourtnee or now
    CR, Kourtnee or now Joggergirl needs your prayers anyway, because it takes someone mentally challenged or should I say starved for attention to post all that she did. I don't know if it was her mother, I do have my doubts, because if she is in [personal identifier removed by CSN staff] at school, how would her mother have access to her password and user name, so there again, the red flag is waving. Best to forget all this and concentrate on the "real" people here who need our love, encouragement and positive attitudes. I may not post as often anymore since I am starting to get part of my "old" life back together now that I have more energy, but I do read all of your posts and want you all to know that you are all in my prayers each and every night. I ask God to give us all strength to face the future and thank him for each and every day we wake up and to bless you all my cyber friends that have helped me through my journey. Hugs, Lili
  • mimivac
    mimivac Member Posts: 2,143
    #7
    This matter...
    This is a sad story that perhaps should be discussed through PMs. We are a very good and trusting bunch and it is sickening that a hoax like this was perpetrated. There were a small group of us who started looking into the matter yesterday. I don't want to take up valuable ACS time and space with the details, and I don't think ACS wants us to use the boards this way. But I hear you, Ohilly. Apart from the grief we felt over Kourtnee's "death", fear for our our own prognosis is inevitable whenever someone has progressing disease. What a tragedy all around. If anyone wants to vent or discuss this further please PM me.

    Mimi
  • Marcia527
    Marcia527 Member Posts: 2,729
    #8
    mmontero38 said:

    There were many clues
    There were many clues leading up to this Ohilly. I had my suspicion from her second posting. Little hints that led up to my disbelief. I really feel saddened that someone would go to these extremes to get attention. What I would really like to know is who really is in the Kourtnee10 picture and now who is this jogger girl who claims her mother did all of this. CSI, here I come. Hugs, Lili

    I was doubtful for a long
    I was doubtful for a long time. I didn't want to say anything because I could be wrong.
  • mimivac
    mimivac Member Posts: 2,143
    #9
    mimivac said:

    This matter...
    This is a sad story that perhaps should be discussed through PMs. We are a very good and trusting bunch and it is sickening that a hoax like this was perpetrated. There were a small group of us who started looking into the matter yesterday. I don't want to take up valuable ACS time and space with the details, and I don't think ACS wants us to use the boards this way. But I hear you, Ohilly. Apart from the grief we felt over Kourtnee's "death", fear for our our own prognosis is inevitable whenever someone has progressing disease. What a tragedy all around. If anyone wants to vent or discuss this further please PM me.

    Mimi

    Didn't mean to dictate
    I just realized that I came across as dictating what can and cannot be said on the boards. This is not my place and I apologize. Please feel free to write whatever you want in this space. For my part, I won't discuss the details on the public forum.

    Mimi
  • rjjj
    rjjj Member Posts: 1,822 Member
    #10
    ohilly said:

    I really didn't know
    You guys are smarter than me. I had no idea this was a hoax. What were the 'clues'?

    Just curious.

    Ohilly

    maybe Re knows
    I remember when Re asked us to post Kourtnee for encouragement. The picture of Melody and Kourtney (not joggergirl was up and we were all feeling bad because her family had disowned her. Why? no answer. But it did seem strange to me that Melody was the only one there..not even another friend or any family at all. Then there was the same mention of the Priest's mom who showed up with the will. and jogger girl says thats the "priest's mom in the new photo. What a mystery.

    I did fall for it though and asked my daughter and friends to pray for her and worried needlessly. I just don't know who could be so cruel to create such a mean hoax.
    jackie
  • fauxma
    fauxma Member Posts: 3,577 Member
    #11
    ohilly said:

    I really didn't know
    You guys are smarter than me. I had no idea this was a hoax. What were the 'clues'?

    Just curious.

    Ohilly

    I posted somewhere else
    I posted somewhere else about this own drama. I will probably be a little more cynical than before. I always saw the signs and felt like I was being jaded by reading my doubt into them so I responded with my heart. And I just realized something that's okay, no better than okay that's good. Because it doesn't really matter that it wasn't true, it doesn't change my thoughts about what I wrote. It was a cruel hypothetical situation but if it had been true then I said and did the right thing. And I am going to continue to do so because it doesn't cost me to do that. Sure I worried over something that didn't happen but the point is I cared. Ohilly mentioned that it gave her bad thoughts about her own prognosis and maybe that is a lesson we need to take from this. Whether false or true, what happens to someone else on their journey may or may not happen to us. We will each respond differently in our treatment even if we have the exact same diagnosis and the exact same treatment. We will get different side effects, maybe more maybe less. We will get different benefits, maybe better, maybe worse. We are individuals and unique. We will make different decisions about our cancers. The point of us being here is to support, advise, care about, grieve, rejoice, celebrate, commismerate, and just care for everyone else who comes online. If they are pulling a scam, then the shame is one them. And as long as no one asks me for money (which I don't have, nor would I give) the most I am out is some compassion and some time. I care for my fellow man and I will not let this make me care less. I'm just glad that no one died. That would be the real tragedy. So to all of my cyber friends, don't give up because this happened. We were duped and we used time that, yes, could have been put to better use, but we did the right thing because as hard as it is to be duped, think how much worse it would have been if we had ignored this because we were cynical and it had been true.
    I care so much for all online and if some are not sincere then karma will take care of them in time and for the rest I would rather give sympathy and compassion to someone who is faking than turn my back on someone who needs me.
    Stef
  • CR1954
    CR1954 Member Posts: 1,390 Member
    #12
    mimivac said:

    Didn't mean to dictate
    I just realized that I came across as dictating what can and cannot be said on the boards. This is not my place and I apologize. Please feel free to write whatever you want in this space. For my part, I won't discuss the details on the public forum.

    Mimi

    I guess...
    I guess the best thing is to move on from this sham.

    Lili, I will pray for joggergirl/Kourtnee...

    I will admit that this has made me more cynical and less trusting. I hope that will change with time.

    At any rate, going to try & forget all of this.

    CR
  • fauxma
    fauxma Member Posts: 3,577 Member
    #13
    mimivac said:

    This matter...
    This is a sad story that perhaps should be discussed through PMs. We are a very good and trusting bunch and it is sickening that a hoax like this was perpetrated. There were a small group of us who started looking into the matter yesterday. I don't want to take up valuable ACS time and space with the details, and I don't think ACS wants us to use the boards this way. But I hear you, Ohilly. Apart from the grief we felt over Kourtnee's "death", fear for our our own prognosis is inevitable whenever someone has progressing disease. What a tragedy all around. If anyone wants to vent or discuss this further please PM me.

    Mimi

    How do you pm someone?
    Stef

    How do you pm someone?
    Stef
  • mimivac
    mimivac Member Posts: 2,143
    #14
    fauxma said:

    How do you pm someone?
    Stef

    How do you pm someone?
    Stef

    PMing
    Go to "CSN Home" and you will see links to your CSN email. If you click on that, you can type in the person's user name in the "to" box and PM them.
  • Aortus
    Aortus Member Posts: 967
    #15
    mimivac said:

    Didn't mean to dictate
    I just realized that I came across as dictating what can and cannot be said on the boards. This is not my place and I apologize. Please feel free to write whatever you want in this space. For my part, I won't discuss the details on the public forum.

    Mimi

    No reason to apologize
    Mimi, I read what you wrote as the polite expression of a sensible preference. That "perhaps" you threw in there gave you right away.
  • ritazimm
    ritazimm Member Posts: 171
    #16
    mimivac said:

    PMing
    Go to "CSN Home" and you will see links to your CSN email. If you click on that, you can type in the person's user name in the "to" box and PM them.

    Thanks mimi
    I was wondering about this as well.
  • Christmas Girl
    Christmas Girl Member Posts: 3,682 Member
    #17
    Aortus said:

    No reason to apologize
    Mimi, I read what you wrote as the polite expression of a sensible preference. That "perhaps" you threw in there gave you right away.

    To Mimi...
    I agree with Mr. Professor. As usual. :-) No need to apologize. And by the way - warm welcome back from your much deserved vacation! I hope you enjoyed yourself to the nth degree! Your return was on my mind days earlier, in the midst of the recent madness. I kinda thought that's why you didn't post about your trip - out of respect for the (fake) tragedy. Now that all of that B.S. is over (thank goodness!) - would love to hear about it, whenever you feel like sharing...

    Kind regards, Susan
  • mimivac
    mimivac Member Posts: 2,143
    #18
    Christmas Girl said:

    To Mimi...
    I agree with Mr. Professor. As usual. :-) No need to apologize. And by the way - warm welcome back from your much deserved vacation! I hope you enjoyed yourself to the nth degree! Your return was on my mind days earlier, in the midst of the recent madness. I kinda thought that's why you didn't post about your trip - out of respect for the (fake) tragedy. Now that all of that B.S. is over (thank goodness!) - would love to hear about it, whenever you feel like sharing...

    Kind regards, Susan

    Thanks, Susan
    I got back and then the whole Kourtnee thing started so I kind of got wrapped up in that I guess. I do plan to post on my trip soon. I want to share some pictures with you all. Amazingly, I hardly thought about cancer at all.
  • Christmas Girl
    Christmas Girl Member Posts: 3,682 Member
    #19
    mimivac said:

    Thanks, Susan
    I got back and then the whole Kourtnee thing started so I kind of got wrapped up in that I guess. I do plan to post on my trip soon. I want to share some pictures with you all. Amazingly, I hardly thought about cancer at all.

    Glad to know, mimivac
    Sounds like your vacation was really good for the soul! A vacation from thinking about cancer (even if only mostly) sounds like perfect & holistic therapy!

    Kind regards, Susan
  • mmontero38
    mmontero38 Member Posts: 1,510
    #20
    mimivac said:

    Thanks, Susan
    I got back and then the whole Kourtnee thing started so I kind of got wrapped up in that I guess. I do plan to post on my trip soon. I want to share some pictures with you all. Amazingly, I hardly thought about cancer at all.

    Mimi, that's what the
    Mimi, that's what the vacation was suppose to do. Make you forget all the uncomfortable things you went through and give you time to relax and recuperate. I am so glad you had a great time on your vacation. I am looking forward to seeing pictures on your expression page. Welcome back. Hugs, Lili
  • mmontero38
    mmontero38 Member Posts: 1,510
    #21
    mimivac said:

    Thanks, Susan
    I got back and then the whole Kourtnee thing started so I kind of got wrapped up in that I guess. I do plan to post on my trip soon. I want to share some pictures with you all. Amazingly, I hardly thought about cancer at all.

    Mimi, that's what the
    Mimi, that's what the vacation was suppose to do. Make you forget all the uncomfortable things you went through and give you time to relax and recuperate. I am so glad you had a great time on your vacation. I am looking forward to seeing pictures on your expression page. Welcome back. Hugs, Lili

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