Sugar

4law
4law Member Posts: 110
edited March 2014 in Colorectal Cancer #1
I've seen a lot of references on this list that sugar is related to cancer. I love ice cream, cakes, sweets, etc. I had rectal cancer. Can anyone refer me to information relating sugar to cancer?

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  • AuthorUnknown
    AuthorUnknown Member Posts: 1,537 Member
    There is a lot of information about the fact that cancer feeds on sugar. There is a book "beating cancer with nutrition" by Patrick Quillin. You can look into it. Or just go to www.google.com and search for "sugar and cancer".

    Sugar products generally are not healthy, even for a healthy person.

    You should avoid food products that contain sugar. I know that you love these things but I tell you from personal experience that it is only difficult to obstain from what you love in the first few weeks and then your body becomes indifferent to it. I have gone through complete withdrawal from sugar products and tremendous decrease in carbohydrate products like bread, pasta, etc. It was difficult in the beginning, and then I stopped caring for it especially if I don't have it in front of me.

    You can have fruits though as they contain natural sugar.

    Hope it helps.
  • betina61
    betina61 Member Posts: 642 Member
    I have read about that on this site and I ask my oncologist,and he said that too much sugar is not healthy for anyone, but had nothing to do with cancer.
  • AuthorUnknown
    AuthorUnknown Member Posts: 1,537 Member
    betina61 said:

    I have read about that on this site and I ask my oncologist,and he said that too much sugar is not healthy for anyone, but had nothing to do with cancer.

    Betina,

    You need to do your own research. Please go to www.google.com and enter 'sugar and cancer' in the search field. You will pull out a lot of information about cancer feeding on sugar.

    Your oncologist does not care whether you have sugar or not. He/she is interested for you to come for your treatments so that they can get payments. The more sugar your eat, the better for them. Be your own advocate.
  • livin
    livin Member Posts: 318 Member
    I agree with most, my Doctor just got after me for eating Ice cream sandwiches. I used to eat 4 or more a day. He said sugar was no good for me. Natural sugar better.
  • shmurciakova
    shmurciakova Member Posts: 906 Member
    Betina & 4law,
    Let's hope that your oncologist does honestly care about your well being. That said, it is true that most oncologists are not nutritionists and do not know a whole hell of alot about naturopathic medicine either. It is a fact, though, that when a PET scan is performed radioactive glucose (sugar) is injected into the body. If cancerous tumors are present they will readily absorb this sugar and they can be seen on the scan. FACT, cancer cells absorb sugar much more readily than healthy cells. CONCLUSION: The less sugar you provide them the better off you are.
    This is substantiated in alternative medicine. Sometimes to heal yourself you have to take your health into your own hands as well as relying on your doctors.
    Just my opinion,
    Susan.
  • shmurciakova
    shmurciakova Member Posts: 906 Member
    Oh yeah, also certain types of sugar are absorbed into the blood stream more quickly than other types. The fast ones are worse for you (refined sugar, white flour, white rice, etc.) than the slower ones (whole grain breads, sweet potatoes, etc.). My opinion is that we cancer survivors should eat low on what is called the Glycemic Index. You can read all about the GI online.
    Cheers,
    Susan
  • scouty
    scouty Member Posts: 1,965 Member
    I think there are 2 completely different questions you are asking.

    First,I think you need to define what you mean by "sugar". Do you mean the sugar that has been around for hundreds of years or do you mean the man made substitute sweetners, regular and calorie free that became part of our mainstream US diets in the 70s (high fructose corn syrup and aspartame). 4law, if you will read the ingredients lists of the things you listed that you love, you will not find one that has sugar in it, they all will have high frustose corn syrup (hfcs) or one of it's partners in crime. But, it is so much cheaper then real sugar and it is all about money these days so you will NEVER see any real test results or companies stop using it unless we stop buying it. I personally think hfcs and aspartame DO contribute to cancer because neither can be completely digested by our bodies and leave behind molecules that build up over time causing obesity, diabetes, heart disease, and cancer.

    The second part of your question is: Do cancer cells feed on sugar, regular and man made? The answer is absolutely, but once again you won't see much in print about that either. There is not much money being pumped into to cancer prevention, only early detection, vaccines, and "cures". We have to remember, cancer is big business and big money to many companies and if you don't believe that then paying $5.00 a gallon for gas will be fine with you.

    Read the Quillan book and google the information and decide for yourself. I have never read that there is a genetic form of rectal cancer which tells me we give it to ourselves somehow (fyi, I am an almost 3 year stage IV rectal cancer survivor).

    Lisa P.
  • KathiM
    KathiM Member Posts: 8,028 Member

    There is a lot of information about the fact that cancer feeds on sugar. There is a book "beating cancer with nutrition" by Patrick Quillin. You can look into it. Or just go to www.google.com and search for "sugar and cancer".

    Sugar products generally are not healthy, even for a healthy person.

    You should avoid food products that contain sugar. I know that you love these things but I tell you from personal experience that it is only difficult to obstain from what you love in the first few weeks and then your body becomes indifferent to it. I have gone through complete withdrawal from sugar products and tremendous decrease in carbohydrate products like bread, pasta, etc. It was difficult in the beginning, and then I stopped caring for it especially if I don't have it in front of me.

    You can have fruits though as they contain natural sugar.

    Hope it helps.

    How about natural, turbinado, cane sugar? Is it not ok?....same diff as the fructose in fruits...breaks down to glucose...which, BTW, is ALSO absorbed as fuel for 'normal' cells that are struggling to survive during chemo onslaught, too!!!!
  • KathiM
    KathiM Member Posts: 8,028 Member

    Betina & 4law,
    Let's hope that your oncologist does honestly care about your well being. That said, it is true that most oncologists are not nutritionists and do not know a whole hell of alot about naturopathic medicine either. It is a fact, though, that when a PET scan is performed radioactive glucose (sugar) is injected into the body. If cancerous tumors are present they will readily absorb this sugar and they can be seen on the scan. FACT, cancer cells absorb sugar much more readily than healthy cells. CONCLUSION: The less sugar you provide them the better off you are.
    This is substantiated in alternative medicine. Sometimes to heal yourself you have to take your health into your own hands as well as relying on your doctors.
    Just my opinion,
    Susan.

    But, Susan, if you remember the instructions after the injection....stay completely still until we come and get you...if you move around alot, those cells will 'light up' too on the scan...glucose is the fuel for 'normal', good cells, too....
    Tech told me about a guy he told NOT to talk on his cell phone....when he came back to get the guy, this idiot was texting instead....OF COURSE, his hands 'Lit up', and decrease the amount of available rad glucose for the 'active' cancers cells to gobble up!
  • pink05
    pink05 Member Posts: 550
    One of the first questions I asked my dad's onc was "Should my dad watch his diet and sugar intake?" Guess what he said...that no, he does not have to worry about this. He also said that there is no scientific evidence of a correlation betw. sugar and cancer. Finally, he did say that only diabetics need to worry about their sugar intake. I'm sure none of you are surprised by this response.

    Since then, I have done so much research and found that in fact, sugar (the bad kind) is fuel for cancer cells. I can't believe how naive I was about this at first, but then again, sometimes we take what doctor's say as gospel. Never again for me!!! I will always be a strong advocate for good nutrition for me and my family. I also do agree that some of these docs only care about one thing, $$$$$.

    Take care,

    -Lee-
  • 4law
    4law Member Posts: 110
    Thanks to everyone for your food for thought. I will try to pay more attention to my diet.
  • Betsydoglover
    Betsydoglover Member Posts: 1,248 Member
    KathiM said:

    But, Susan, if you remember the instructions after the injection....stay completely still until we come and get you...if you move around alot, those cells will 'light up' too on the scan...glucose is the fuel for 'normal', good cells, too....
    Tech told me about a guy he told NOT to talk on his cell phone....when he came back to get the guy, this idiot was texting instead....OF COURSE, his hands 'Lit up', and decrease the amount of available rad glucose for the 'active' cancers cells to gobble up!

    I understand the theory regarding cancer being a "sugar feeder". It may well also be true. And I think eating on the low end of the glycemic index is always a good idea as it avoids spikes in blood glucose. So, I do this and am sure it is good for me, regardless of the cancer.

    But, it is not necessarily logically correct to say that because cancer cells uptake glucose at a more rapid rate than do normal cells, therefore sugar causes / feeds / makes worse cancer.

    Kathi raises a really good reminder. All cells use glucose for fuel - all forms of sugar are ultimately turned into glucose. And your body will mobilize glucose from stores in the liver if necessary. They make you be quiet for an hour prior to PET for a reason - because as Kathi says normal cells use glucose for fuel and when they are "active" they use more fuel. So you rest, relax, in a dark room in many places, in just a very pleasant room in other places, in a comfortable chair. You don't watch TV, you don't read, you should NOT talk on a cell phone - instead you keep your normal cells at a low level of activity. And, voila - the cancer cells light up because they are more active, rapidly dividing etc. Immediately post surgery, the area of the surgery will light up even if there is no cancer, because again it is an area of more rapid cellular metabolism. And, as Kathi says, activity, including mental activity, during the rest period prior to PET scan can cause areas with no cancer to light up.

    So, avoiding foods that will cause your blood glucose to spike is excellent nutrition - cancer or not - and critical if you have diabetes or hypoglycemia. Aside from limiting hugely sugary foods, combining carbohydrates with protein and fat and fiber (in other words eating a balanced diet) is probably the best way to mitigate the glucose spikes that can be caused by high sugar / refined carbohydrate consumption.

    So, balanced diet, limiting refined carbohydrates and high "sugar" items is good nutrition, but no one should thus assume that too many hard candies caused cancer.

    It's an interesting topic.

    Betsy