Quillan's Immunopower

musiclover
musiclover Member Posts: 242
edited March 2014 in Colorectal Cancer #1
I just spend several hours reading Quillan's book then scouring his page. I've read some encourging things about his supplements and how they help curb the side effects of chemo. I'm a bit disappointed however after visiting his site that he is pushing the Immunopower products. They are pretty pricey and there is no list of ingredients on the site.

I am a big believer that whole foods can supply all the nutrients we need, particularly plants. Fish and cows seem to do well with that diet - fish get the Omega 3's from sea plants and cows get the B12 from the dirt/grass they eat. I've developed this theory mainly from discussing at length this very topic with with breast cancer survivor/athlete Dr. Ruth Heidrich. She had radical cancer surgery but skipped the chemo and went on a clinical trial in Hawaii held by Dr. John McDougall. The trial was a vegan, plant based diet - no oils, no sugar. Twenty years later she's still cancer free, solid as a rock and competing in ironmen competitions. I wouldn't have belived it myself until meeting her in person and picking her brain. I've also talked extensively with Dr. McDougall himself who sells no products, just gives info on how to live healthy without drugs. (Ruth's site for those that want to read about her is www.ruthheidrich.com. McDougall's is www.drmcdougall.com).

Nevertheless, Mark IS on chemo and his immune system is compromised so I'm keeping an open mind and looking any and everywhere for a way to help him. I would love to hear from anyone who has used Quillan's products. I've read nothing but fabulous things about him on this board. Thanks so much. Kathryn

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  • Betsydoglover
    Betsydoglover Member Posts: 1,248 Member
    Kathryn - I too have found his site disappointing (and most internet search results related to this product come from sites that are selling it.) That said, the ingredients are listed: If you go to http://www.immunopower.com/ and click on "ImmunoPower Ingredients" on the left you can see the list. There are actually several versions of this site - that bothers me a bit - there is also ImmunoPower EZ which is probably more palatable. I personally keep going back and forth on this guy. I love his book. The web materials bother me.

    We are such a vulnerable population and it is so hard to know whom to trust.

    My best to Mark.
    Betsy
  • musiclover
    musiclover Member Posts: 242

    Kathryn - I too have found his site disappointing (and most internet search results related to this product come from sites that are selling it.) That said, the ingredients are listed: If you go to http://www.immunopower.com/ and click on "ImmunoPower Ingredients" on the left you can see the list. There are actually several versions of this site - that bothers me a bit - there is also ImmunoPower EZ which is probably more palatable. I personally keep going back and forth on this guy. I love his book. The web materials bother me.

    We are such a vulnerable population and it is so hard to know whom to trust.

    My best to Mark.
    Betsy

    Duh! Can't believe I missed that. Funny, I don't see the whey or soy protein ingredients listed, both of which there are health concerns about and which I'm wary of. I was getting excited about the book and even sent an email to Quillan asking if I could make an appointment for Mark since I am here in L.A. and he's in San Deigo. Now I'm having second thoughts. Think I'll continue to look for a Naturalpathic doctor who works with cancer patients. Anyone know of one in Southern Cali? Thanks,
    Kathryn
  • lfondots63
    lfondots63 Member Posts: 818 Member
    Hi Kathryn,

    I have found my own "green powder" with most of the ingredients in it that is in Quinlan's. I just don't have the money for the pricy products. I am also trying to eat more greens in my diet. I have also cut out the processed sugar. Eating fruit is good too. I eat mostly chicken, soy and some pork. I don't eat beef because it is hard for the bowels digest. I think Quinlan's book is good at what supplements you should use and what you should eat. I get most of my stuff from natural food stores in my area and some in regular stores. I sprouted bread that doesn't have flour. I eat lots of wheat breads and read the ingredients all the time. I have even stopped drinking milk because all the sugar content. I drink Soy milk now which I really like. The long and short of it is that it is a good basis but if you are like me you shop around for the best price for things that you need to eat. Good luck and e-mail me any time if you want. Oh, not a lot of cheese either in my diet. Take care.

    Lisa
  • jana11
    jana11 Member Posts: 705
    Kathryn,

    I completely agree. I was surprised at how much his book pushed the product; esp when I went on the internet and saw the price!

    But, I did enjoy the general message of his book. I am NOT using his products, but went to see a nutritionist and am taking Microhydrin and green drink and use healing honey. I really do feel a difference, but it is a bit pricey. I don't eat meat or chicken and get all organic produce. I think it helps.

    Good luck on your quest. Mark is lucky to have you. jana
  • shmurciakova
    shmurciakova Member Posts: 906 Member
    I think if you get a good N.D. they can help Mark get on a supplement regimen that is right for him. I would not try to just go it alone. Of course you can ask about green foods, or whatever other supplements you have read about and have questions about. I think for nutrition you can follow any number of diets. Any low GI (glycemic index), diabetic type diet is good. Another one I have recently become interested in is the Perricone diet because of its anti-inflammatory message. I am currenlty on Celebrex to help prevent recurrences, but I am looking into other natural alternatives that also inhibit the Cox-2 enzyme because I don't want to be on Celebrex forever......anyway, sorry to confuse you, but the Cox-2 enzyme plays a key role in tumor angiogenesis (making its own blood supply), so the Perricone diet is good.
    Also keeping his pH in check is important, read about alkaline/basic diets. Sounds like Dr. McDougall follows some of the same prinicples.......although I don't think I could follow a vegan diet personally, or no oils for that matter.
    -Susan
  • shmurciakova
    shmurciakova Member Posts: 906 Member

    I think if you get a good N.D. they can help Mark get on a supplement regimen that is right for him. I would not try to just go it alone. Of course you can ask about green foods, or whatever other supplements you have read about and have questions about. I think for nutrition you can follow any number of diets. Any low GI (glycemic index), diabetic type diet is good. Another one I have recently become interested in is the Perricone diet because of its anti-inflammatory message. I am currenlty on Celebrex to help prevent recurrences, but I am looking into other natural alternatives that also inhibit the Cox-2 enzyme because I don't want to be on Celebrex forever......anyway, sorry to confuse you, but the Cox-2 enzyme plays a key role in tumor angiogenesis (making its own blood supply), so the Perricone diet is good.
    Also keeping his pH in check is important, read about alkaline/basic diets. Sounds like Dr. McDougall follows some of the same prinicples.......although I don't think I could follow a vegan diet personally, or no oils for that matter.
    -Susan

    You know, one thing that just occured to me is that he definitely should take probiotics because his intestinal flora will really be messed up. I take digestive enzymes too!
  • jerseysue
    jerseysue Member Posts: 624 Member
    I too just read the book and got on the internet and I was going to buy the product not that I have money coming out my butt. I was going to give them a whirl I even had the web site minimized on the computer. I guess I'll wait.
  • shmurciakova
    shmurciakova Member Posts: 906 Member
    Kathryn,
    If you can actually get into see Dr. Quillian I say go for it. I don't think that he would be any worse than any other N.D. I just meant rather than winging it on your own you should seek the advice of a professional. Likewise Jerseysue, if you want to give the supplements a try, I don't see the harm. I'd go for it, if you are not already on a supplement regimen. There may be less expensive ways, I think I looked at the site once, but obviously he developed these products because he believes they work. No supplement regimen is going to be cheap, but I definitley think it's worth it.
    -Susan.
  • nanuk
    nanuk Member Posts: 1,358 Member

    Kathryn,
    If you can actually get into see Dr. Quillian I say go for it. I don't think that he would be any worse than any other N.D. I just meant rather than winging it on your own you should seek the advice of a professional. Likewise Jerseysue, if you want to give the supplements a try, I don't see the harm. I'd go for it, if you are not already on a supplement regimen. There may be less expensive ways, I think I looked at the site once, but obviously he developed these products because he believes they work. No supplement regimen is going to be cheap, but I definitley think it's worth it.
    -Susan.

    Quillan is questionable.. he has two separate com panies distributing the product. and I discovered that he had changed the ingredients in one product while simultaneously marketing the older one without any notice to customers. Bud
  • 2bhealed
    2bhealed Member Posts: 2,064 Member
    Hi Kathryn,

    As much as I love Quillin's book I personally hesitate when one is promoting his own very expensive products.

    I always liked my Traditional Chinese Medicine practitioner b/c she suggested supplements for me to take and if I could get the cheaper somewhere else she encouraged me to get them cheaper. Some stuff I could only get from her (the chinese herbs) but she didn't gouge me.

    My Naturopath was the same way. I appreciated both those women for that very reason. So then I felt like I could truly trust them that they had MY best interest at heart and not just lining their pocketbook.

    Your success stories sound highly interesting and I'm definitely going to check out the websites you gave.

    Are you familiar with Dr. Lorraine Day also? She cured her breast cancer with diet also. She has some incredible photos of her tumor coming out of her breast. www.drday.com

    Anyway, I have not used Quillin's products but still highly promote his book!

    peace, emily
  • Betsydoglover
    Betsydoglover Member Posts: 1,248 Member
    2bhealed said:

    Hi Kathryn,

    As much as I love Quillin's book I personally hesitate when one is promoting his own very expensive products.

    I always liked my Traditional Chinese Medicine practitioner b/c she suggested supplements for me to take and if I could get the cheaper somewhere else she encouraged me to get them cheaper. Some stuff I could only get from her (the chinese herbs) but she didn't gouge me.

    My Naturopath was the same way. I appreciated both those women for that very reason. So then I felt like I could truly trust them that they had MY best interest at heart and not just lining their pocketbook.

    Your success stories sound highly interesting and I'm definitely going to check out the websites you gave.

    Are you familiar with Dr. Lorraine Day also? She cured her breast cancer with diet also. She has some incredible photos of her tumor coming out of her breast. www.drday.com

    Anyway, I have not used Quillin's products but still highly promote his book!

    peace, emily

    Emily - the "Day" thing is interesting. Unfortunately I also have a problem with web sites that tell you they have life saving information but you can only find out what it is for $19.95. It's not the paying that is the problem. But for really lifesaving information, $19.95 is too cheap - for a scam, on the other hand, it is a great deal for the site. I try not to be so conservative when it comes to this, but that website looks pretty flashy and in-your-face and does not really convey any real information.

    I think I really do need to find an ND who doesn't make a living off of the supplements they sell. (I found one, but it was so all about what to buy from her that I was REALLY put off.)

    Anyway, I know your experience has been great and that keeps me thinking that this approach could really be helpful. I've been searching for other ND's in the DC area, but no luck so far finding one who is interested in cancer (and as I said, the first one was really all about selling her stuff.)

    Betsy
  • 2bhealed
    2bhealed Member Posts: 2,064 Member

    Emily - the "Day" thing is interesting. Unfortunately I also have a problem with web sites that tell you they have life saving information but you can only find out what it is for $19.95. It's not the paying that is the problem. But for really lifesaving information, $19.95 is too cheap - for a scam, on the other hand, it is a great deal for the site. I try not to be so conservative when it comes to this, but that website looks pretty flashy and in-your-face and does not really convey any real information.

    I think I really do need to find an ND who doesn't make a living off of the supplements they sell. (I found one, but it was so all about what to buy from her that I was REALLY put off.)

    Anyway, I know your experience has been great and that keeps me thinking that this approach could really be helpful. I've been searching for other ND's in the DC area, but no luck so far finding one who is interested in cancer (and as I said, the first one was really all about selling her stuff.)

    Betsy

    Hi Betsy,

    Fortunately I knew two people who had coughed up the 20 bucks for videos and shared them with me. Basically, she used a raw foods diet and juiced like crazy. But this was after she tried many other things too. She was actually very knowledgeable about different alternative protocols. she wasn't too keen on macrobiotics though. But she does have quite the testimony. she's not a scam but there are plenty out there.

    You can also try www.hacres.com for cancer cure diet (raw foods again....a common thread--it's the live enzymes). Gosh, though, I hadn't been to dr. day's site for a ****'s age so I didn't remember it being flashy or in your face. That's a shame.

    I had a horrible experience with a woman who called me from Colorado (friend of a friend kind of thing) and she had some "nutritionist" on the line who told me that if I didn't follow her diet I WOULD DIE! I kid you not!! Of course I had to buy her products as part of the diet plan. Duh. No thank you!! I never talked to her again. Bloodsucking fear monger.

    I also had "friends" sending me all sorts of info about their miracle cures....all for a cost.

    It makes me sick to my stomach... I could tell you about a chiropractor who gouged my hubby and me for almost a month until we saw the pattern and said NO MORE!

    But not all of them are that way....there are some bad apples in all orchards. And yes, thankfully I found two really good ones that I was happy with and I truly felt were not seeing dollar signs in their eyes when this cancer patient walked through the door. My TCM practitioner didn't have all the answers but she researched if I asked a question about something and the next visit she would have the answer. My ND gave me a bunch of her notes from a conference that she attended specifically on cancer and went over everything in them with me. She helped me wade through the whole supplement thing and took me off stuff that wasn't necessary. I actually brought the whole kit n' kaboodle of stuff that I was taking before I had gone to her and she went through each and every thing reading the ingredients and explaining what I could toss and why and what I should keep. And it wasn't a matter of what she sold either.

    Keep looking.

    Have you tried The Alternative Medicine magazine's website? They have a whole area just for finding practitioners in your area.

    How far is DC from where scouty lives and her awesomely wonderful ND??

    good luck.

    peace, emily