Curious about chemo

Firefighter35
Firefighter35 Member Posts: 10
edited March 2014 in Colorectal Cancer #1
I was wondering if anyone knew the %'s when it comes to men being able to have children once they have had chemo. Might be too late since i get first treatment on Thurs. but i'm curious if anyone has any info. about it.

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  • jana11
    jana11 Member Posts: 705
    You can always make a deposit in the sperm bank and save it for later. :)
    jana
  • rthornton
    rthornton Member Posts: 346 Member
    I've never heard anything about chemo for our type of cancer causing infertility. And it was never mentioned to me. But I'm happy with my beagle for now, although I'd like to adopt a Russian kid one day. I figure there are enough kids in the world. If there is a lack of anything, it's a lack of good parents in the world! Maybe you could provide a good home to a child that's already here. Just a thought.

    Rodney
  • chynabear
    chynabear Member Posts: 481 Member
    What is your treatment going to consist of?

    I went through (I know I'm not going to spell these right and want to post quickly) Leucorvin, Oxiliplatin, and 5fu and my Oncologist advised me that my fertility would drop by as much as 40%. I am also a 27 year old female, but I'm not sure if age or sex has any difference. I would ask your Oncologist and if you are concerned, take the advice and make a deposit. Children are amazing, which is something I never thought. I am so grateful for my little girl and she is mostly what keeps me going strong (and also why I get scared the most).
  • oneagleswings
    oneagleswings Member Posts: 425 Member
    A friend of ours had testicular cancer/chemo and when it was all done fathered 2 beautiful children..hope the same for you- it is a good question tho to ask your oncologist
    Bev
  • jrasnic
    jrasnic Member Posts: 14
    Hi Firefighter,

    My husband is now a year out from finishing chemo. He was 28 when originally diagnosed. We were told to go ahead and bank sperm before treatment started because they know very little about the reproductive consequences of these newer drugs such as oxaliplatin. It's not hard to get an appointment at a sperm bank -- but you will need to abstain for a couple of days to get the best sample. In any case, my husband just had a follow up semen analysis performed and it turns out that he is still producing a good amount of viable sperm. His sperm count did decrease, but he is still considered fertile. I hope this information helps. I wish you the best of luck!

    Jackie
  • steved
    steved Member Posts: 834 Member
    It does sepend on what concoction you have. As people say the newer ones have less knowledge. They all make your sperm a bit wonky at the time so the advice is not to get anyone pregnant for several months after. It is somehting best discussed through with the docs. I banked enough to populate a small african country before I started treatment but that was more because I had radiotherapy which can leave you totally infertile. My wife was pregnant with our first child when I was diagnosed and we are now contemplating whether we want more and will need to go and find out whether any of teh little guys survived!
    Sorry for the details but you get used to talking about all bodily funcntions here!
    Steve
  • chynabear
    chynabear Member Posts: 481 Member
    steved said:

    It does sepend on what concoction you have. As people say the newer ones have less knowledge. They all make your sperm a bit wonky at the time so the advice is not to get anyone pregnant for several months after. It is somehting best discussed through with the docs. I banked enough to populate a small african country before I started treatment but that was more because I had radiotherapy which can leave you totally infertile. My wife was pregnant with our first child when I was diagnosed and we are now contemplating whether we want more and will need to go and find out whether any of teh little guys survived!
    Sorry for the details but you get used to talking about all bodily funcntions here!
    Steve

    I am going to add a question to this thread as well. With those who have finished treatment did the dr recommend not having children or not having children for a certain amount of time?

    The day I finished treatment, my oncologist invited me into his office and basically gave me the "It's your life and your decision but I advise against getting pregnant for the first five years" talk. I can see where he's coming from because I could get sick again and have to go through treatment which could be postponed due to being preggers or I could risk making another child motherless.

    I have also heard that some people are advised not to have any children after treatment.
  • jrasnic
    jrasnic Member Posts: 14
    chynabear said:

    I am going to add a question to this thread as well. With those who have finished treatment did the dr recommend not having children or not having children for a certain amount of time?

    The day I finished treatment, my oncologist invited me into his office and basically gave me the "It's your life and your decision but I advise against getting pregnant for the first five years" talk. I can see where he's coming from because I could get sick again and have to go through treatment which could be postponed due to being preggers or I could risk making another child motherless.

    I have also heard that some people are advised not to have any children after treatment.

    That's really interesting. My husband's doctor is kind of like, "Why wouldn't you have children?". Of course, she probably is assuming that it won't be next week or anything. But she has expressed no concern about my husband's genetics or otherwise about him having children in the future. If anything, she noted that we are intelligent and productive citizens and that if anyone should have kids -- it should be us. Cancer happens! And we still don't know why or how or who is going to get it. The world can't stop turning!
    However, I can understand your doctor's issues with the fact that if you did have a reccurence, he would want you to be able to get immediate treatment, which could be problematic if you were pregnant. The difference might be in that my husband is male and won't have the hardship or responsibility of actually carrying the child. I think the good news is that you are still young and even in five years, if you choose to wait that long, you will still be young enough to have a baby.
    I noticed my husband's age and staging was almost identical to yours. He was a month shy of 28 and had 3 pos lymph nodes putting him at stage 3B. He finished treatment last August and is NED and feeling really good. However, he is still dealing with pretty noticeable neuropathy in his hands and feet. I wish you the best. I hope this information sheds some more light on the topic :)

    Jackie
  • nanuk
    nanuk Member Posts: 1,358 Member
    I like Jana's idea..put some of those little critters in the bank-it's a win-win, 'cause it guarantees continuation of the firefighter line if anything happens to you-(like being run over by a Mack Truck on the way to the hospital.. Nanuk
  • brookie26
    brookie26 Member Posts: 2
    the male anatomy makes it less likely that a man's fertility will be effected by chemo than a woman's fertility. The wonders of the human body never fail to amaze but the testicals are actually protected by a barrier of sorts that for the most part prevent chemo from crossing into them and causing harm (the brain has a similar barrier). There is no protection from radiatio however and in cases where radiation may be directed toward the testes or even lower abdomen male fertility may be effected. Women are not as lucky and have no barrier protecting their overies from harm during chemo and therefore, a woman's fertily is more easily effected. Talk to your Physician about your options. Another great reasource (depending upon how large the center is where you will be receiving your treatments) is the oncology pharmacist specialists. Most large teaching hospitals have them and they are wonderful resources (after all they are drug experts!)
  • 2bhealed
    2bhealed Member Posts: 2,064 Member
    chynabear said:

    I am going to add a question to this thread as well. With those who have finished treatment did the dr recommend not having children or not having children for a certain amount of time?

    The day I finished treatment, my oncologist invited me into his office and basically gave me the "It's your life and your decision but I advise against getting pregnant for the first five years" talk. I can see where he's coming from because I could get sick again and have to go through treatment which could be postponed due to being preggers or I could risk making another child motherless.

    I have also heard that some people are advised not to have any children after treatment.

    chyna,

    My sister had all the chemo and radiation that Mayo clinic could dish up on her intestinal cancer (stage 4) and she had a baby afterward. In fact, she fired her first radiologist b/c he wasn't going to protect her ovaries. Fired him on the spot!! GO SISTER!! so the next guy lined her insides with lead before the blasted her with radiation (she was opened up for her radiation and the walls were SIX FEET THICK it was so powerful!!!).

    Anyway, she had a beautiful healthy baby girl and her hubby was a testicular cancer survivor with one nut so look at them odds!! And they did it!

    The sad thing is that she died 5 months after the baby was born but she had her vaginally and breastfed her for 6 weeks before she did more chemo. So IT CAN BE DONE!!!!

    So yes IT IS YOUR LIFE!!

    GO FOR IT!

    peace, emily who is thankful for her sister's bravery which led to a beautiful baby girl who is a joy to all.....and smart as a whip and perfect in every way!! (and 13)