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Folia Med (Plovdiv). 2006;48(2):11-7.
Current knowledge of Aronia melanocarpa as a medicinal plant.
Valcheva-Kuzmanova SV, Belcheva A.
SourceDepartment of Preclinical and Clinical Pharmacology and Biochemistry, Medical University, Varna, Bulgaria.

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Aronia melanocarpa, native to eastern North America, has become popular in Eastern Europe and Russia. Aronia melanocarpa fruits are one of the richest plant sources of phenolic substances, mainly anthocyanins--glycosides of cyanidin. Anthocyanins are water soluble pigments accounting for the dark blue and even black color of the fruits. Administered orally they can be absorbed as intact glycosides. Aronia melanocarpa fruit juice and anthocyanins derived from the fruits have been studied intensively for the last 15 years. Most of the effects of Aronia melanocarpa anthocyanins are due to their high antioxidative activity. Our investigations have demonstrated a remarkable hepatoprotective, a very good gastroprotective and a pronounced anti-inflammatory effect of Aronia melanocarpa fruit juice in rats as well as a bacteriostatic activity in vitro against Staphylococcus aureus and Escherichia coli and an antiviral activity against type A influenza virus. Research of other authors has demonstrated that Aronia melanocarpa anthocyanins can normalize the carbohydrate metabolism in diabetic patients and in streptozotocin-diabetic rats, have an in vitro antimutagenic activity and exhibit a distinct immunomodulatory activity in human lymphocyte cultures and in patients with breast cancer, suppress the growth of human HT-29 colon cancer cells, inhibit the N-nitrosamine formation in rats and decrease the toxicity and cumulation of cadmium in liver and kidneys. Currently, there are no data in literature about any unwanted and toxic effects of Aronia melanocarpa fruits, juice and extracts.

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  • pete43lost_at_sea
    pete43lost_at_sea Member Posts: 3,900 Member
    thanks smokeyjoe
    I'd have some for breakfast if they were locally grown.
    they look like blueberries.

    interesting article thanks for sharing it.

    I have not heard of this and did some reading .....
    hugs,
    pete

    Also known as Black Chokeberry, it is prized for its health benefits.
    This ravishing plant produces a show of elaborate white spring flowers, with masses of delectable and nutritious black fruit arriving in fall. A delicious addition to a border, Aronia is a tough and durable plant that thrives in a wide range of soils. Fruits are loaded with Vitamin C and phenolic substances, mainly anthocyanins.
  • John23
    John23 Member Posts: 2,122 Member
    smokeyjoe -
    Cautions:
    "注意: Do not overdose. Large amount can induce vomiting
    and diarrhea. Do not to use during pregnancy or in cases of qixu
    (qi deficiency) or yinxu (yin deficiency), or hemoptysis"


    You should try to keep in mind, that some herbs are full medicinal
    strength, and can do as much damage as good in the wrong hands.

    I always recommend having a qualified TCM physician, or at
    least a qualified herbalist on hand if your going to try the herbal
    route. It's worked well for me, but without my TCM doc, I could
    have been in serious trouble at one point! Too much of any herb, can
    be as disastrous as too much of any western medicine pharmaceutical.

    There's an old adage for lawyers that goes like this:
    "An attorney representing himself at trial, has a fool for a lawyer."

    That goes for those "self medicating" as well; especially when cancer
    is involved!

    Unless you're willing to take the time to study and learn about the
    route you are about to take, don't go there..

    TCM works, just as other types of herbal compounds do, when they're
    built by experienced and qualified herbalists, but unless you're willing
    to take the time to study and learn what each can or can not do, please...
    do not try them.

    I really care to see everyone staying alive in spite of cancer. But no-one
    should go into their route blindly, regardless if it's TCM, western meds,
    or anything else. Take the time to learn as much as you can about the
    route you're about to take.

    Make your decisions based on your own information and intuition.

    It's your life at stake!

    Best wishes for a long, long life!

    John
  • smokeyjoe
    smokeyjoe Member Posts: 1,425 Member
    John23 said:

    smokeyjoe -
    Cautions:
    "注意: Do not overdose. Large amount can induce vomiting
    and diarrhea. Do not to use during pregnancy or in cases of qixu
    (qi deficiency) or yinxu (yin deficiency), or hemoptysis"


    You should try to keep in mind, that some herbs are full medicinal
    strength, and can do as much damage as good in the wrong hands.

    I always recommend having a qualified TCM physician, or at
    least a qualified herbalist on hand if your going to try the herbal
    route. It's worked well for me, but without my TCM doc, I could
    have been in serious trouble at one point! Too much of any herb, can
    be as disastrous as too much of any western medicine pharmaceutical.

    There's an old adage for lawyers that goes like this:
    "An attorney representing himself at trial, has a fool for a lawyer."

    That goes for those "self medicating" as well; especially when cancer
    is involved!

    Unless you're willing to take the time to study and learn about the
    route you are about to take, don't go there..

    TCM works, just as other types of herbal compounds do, when they're
    built by experienced and qualified herbalists, but unless you're willing
    to take the time to study and learn what each can or can not do, please...
    do not try them.

    I really care to see everyone staying alive in spite of cancer. But no-one
    should go into their route blindly, regardless if it's TCM, western meds,
    or anything else. Take the time to learn as much as you can about the
    route you're about to take.

    Make your decisions based on your own information and intuition.

    It's your life at stake!

    Best wishes for a long, long life!

    John

    Thanks John, apparently
    Thanks John, apparently these berries are native to the Great Lakes Region, so I would suppose they'd be in season in the fall at the local fuit markets around my neck of the woods, probably much like when it's blue berry season and you can purchase fresh picked blue berries at road side stands when in season!! Just I've never paid attention to these berries in the past and when this article specifically mentioned colon cancer it peaked my interest. Leena
  • SisterSledge
    SisterSledge Member Posts: 332 Member
    John23 said:

    smokeyjoe -
    Cautions:
    "注意: Do not overdose. Large amount can induce vomiting
    and diarrhea. Do not to use during pregnancy or in cases of qixu
    (qi deficiency) or yinxu (yin deficiency), or hemoptysis"


    You should try to keep in mind, that some herbs are full medicinal
    strength, and can do as much damage as good in the wrong hands.

    I always recommend having a qualified TCM physician, or at
    least a qualified herbalist on hand if your going to try the herbal
    route. It's worked well for me, but without my TCM doc, I could
    have been in serious trouble at one point! Too much of any herb, can
    be as disastrous as too much of any western medicine pharmaceutical.

    There's an old adage for lawyers that goes like this:
    "An attorney representing himself at trial, has a fool for a lawyer."

    That goes for those "self medicating" as well; especially when cancer
    is involved!

    Unless you're willing to take the time to study and learn about the
    route you are about to take, don't go there..

    TCM works, just as other types of herbal compounds do, when they're
    built by experienced and qualified herbalists, but unless you're willing
    to take the time to study and learn what each can or can not do, please...
    do not try them.

    I really care to see everyone staying alive in spite of cancer. But no-one
    should go into their route blindly, regardless if it's TCM, western meds,
    or anything else. Take the time to learn as much as you can about the
    route you're about to take.

    Make your decisions based on your own information and intuition.

    It's your life at stake!

    Best wishes for a long, long life!

    John

    confused
    Hi John,

    I don't think you are refering to the same plant Leena is writing about. Aronia melanocarpa is a native american plant (Chokeberry) with much historical use. Currently it is being promoted quite heavily in European countries for its health benefits. Your link is for Atonic Melanacantha. The links that are listed on the results page of freefind.com definitely show a different plant.

    Here are some Google results for both plants:

    http://www.google.com/search?q=Aronia+melanocarpa&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#q=Aronia+melanocarpa&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=ivns&ei=tTPdTai7MObbiAKn84wU&start=0&sa=N&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=6af0f014ae16db6c
    Aronia melanocarpa

    http://www.google.com/search?q=atonic+melanacan&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
    atonic melanacantha

    Here is some of the best info on chokeberries health benefits:
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Research
    Read the comments section for more info
    PubMed search: aronia

    Though these berries seem to be very healthful, they don't sound tasty...dunno if I'd be willing to juice them...Imma picky eater >;-p

    Janine
  • John23
    John23 Member Posts: 2,122 Member

    confused
    Hi John,

    I don't think you are refering to the same plant Leena is writing about. Aronia melanocarpa is a native american plant (Chokeberry) with much historical use. Currently it is being promoted quite heavily in European countries for its health benefits. Your link is for Atonic Melanacantha. The links that are listed on the results page of freefind.com definitely show a different plant.

    Here are some Google results for both plants:

    http://www.google.com/search?q=Aronia+melanocarpa&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#q=Aronia+melanocarpa&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=ivns&ei=tTPdTai7MObbiAKn84wU&start=0&sa=N&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=6af0f014ae16db6c
    Aronia melanocarpa

    http://www.google.com/search?q=atonic+melanacan&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
    atonic melanacantha

    Here is some of the best info on chokeberries health benefits:
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Research
    Read the comments section for more info
    PubMed search: aronia

    Though these berries seem to be very healthful, they don't sound tasty...dunno if I'd be willing to juice them...Imma picky eater >;-p

    Janine

    Did I say "oops"?
    Ya'see, that's what sis's are for!

    The link I provided isn't for the "Chokeberries" you guys are
    referring to....(I think I gots herbal brain)

    There have been no side effects or hazards reported with
    Aronia melanocarpa, as far as I know. But to be safe,
    remember that moderation is always best!

    Sorry 'bout that!

    Best of health, and don't eat too many berries.

    (nice catch, sis.... and thank you!)

    Mea culpa.

    John
  • SisterSledge
    SisterSledge Member Posts: 332 Member
    John23 said:

    Did I say "oops"?
    Ya'see, that's what sis's are for!

    The link I provided isn't for the "Chokeberries" you guys are
    referring to....(I think I gots herbal brain)

    There have been no side effects or hazards reported with
    Aronia melanocarpa, as far as I know. But to be safe,
    remember that moderation is always best!

    Sorry 'bout that!

    Best of health, and don't eat too many berries.

    (nice catch, sis.... and thank you!)

    Mea culpa.

    John

    de nada
    Happy to help :)
  • BettyJoM
    BettyJoM Member Posts: 82

    confused
    Hi John,

    I don't think you are refering to the same plant Leena is writing about. Aronia melanocarpa is a native american plant (Chokeberry) with much historical use. Currently it is being promoted quite heavily in European countries for its health benefits. Your link is for Atonic Melanacantha. The links that are listed on the results page of freefind.com definitely show a different plant.

    Here are some Google results for both plants:

    http://www.google.com/search?q=Aronia+melanocarpa&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#q=Aronia+melanocarpa&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=ivns&ei=tTPdTai7MObbiAKn84wU&start=0&sa=N&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=6af0f014ae16db6c
    Aronia melanocarpa

    http://www.google.com/search?q=atonic+melanacan&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
    atonic melanacantha

    Here is some of the best info on chokeberries health benefits:
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Research
    Read the comments section for more info
    PubMed search: aronia

    Though these berries seem to be very healthful, they don't sound tasty...dunno if I'd be willing to juice them...Imma picky eater >;-p

    Janine

    Hi
    I looked to see if you commented on this berry Janine.
    Where in the world would you find it anyway
  • herdizziness
    herdizziness Member Posts: 3,624 Member
    Gosh Darn It
    Looks like a Pete posting, can't understand it at all. In laymen's terms what the heck are you talking about?
    signing off as "not a rocket scientist,
    Winter Marie
  • herdizziness
    herdizziness Member Posts: 3,624 Member

    thanks smokeyjoe
    I'd have some for breakfast if they were locally grown.
    they look like blueberries.

    interesting article thanks for sharing it.

    I have not heard of this and did some reading .....
    hugs,
    pete

    Also known as Black Chokeberry, it is prized for its health benefits.
    This ravishing plant produces a show of elaborate white spring flowers, with masses of delectable and nutritious black fruit arriving in fall. A delicious addition to a border, Aronia is a tough and durable plant that thrives in a wide range of soils. Fruits are loaded with Vitamin C and phenolic substances, mainly anthocyanins.

    Oh
    So if you are talking chokeberries, being Alaskan I can tell you that NO PETE you would not want to eat them for breakfast like blueberries, quite poisonous I learned from my parents and nana's, that the seed are a no no. You have to take and make them into a jam, which is quite good tasting, they weren't "wild" in Alaska, but everyone had the bushes, my mother would not make chokecherry jam and we weren't allowed to eat them, due to the poisonous seeds, leaves and branches, so be careful when thinking about eating chokecherries, you have to be very careful in the process of making it jam. And if my native people aren't willing (our shaman's among them) to eat chokecherries, neither am I.
    Winter Marie
  • John23
    John23 Member Posts: 2,122 Member

    Gosh Darn It
    Looks like a Pete posting, can't understand it at all. In laymen's terms what the heck are you talking about?
    signing off as "not a rocket scientist,
    Winter Marie

    Winter Marie –
    Sit with me; hold my hand…..

    Pete’s from one of those foreign places that do not
    speak in our tongue; we provide an excuse and comfort
    to those that that do not know our dialect.

    Really! Wha-foe! Mudder-momma..!!

    Be still my dear, better days are on the horizon.



    John
  • ellamenno
    ellamenno Member Posts: 142 Member

    Gosh Darn It
    Looks like a Pete posting, can't understand it at all. In laymen's terms what the heck are you talking about?
    signing off as "not a rocket scientist,
    Winter Marie

    Looks like a Pete posting
    Ha,ha,ha,ha good one! Bless Pete's soul:) Hey Pete, isn't great being known here by just your first name? Kinda like a rock star:)

    Winter, chokecherry or chokeberry?

    Peace, Laurie