Cancer is not a disease it's a survival mechanism

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  • John23
    John23 Member Posts: 2,122 Member
    #42
    Nana b said:

    Thanks John! This whole
    Thanks John! This whole acidic thing started when I brought in fresh oranges off our tree. I eat about three a day. They are seedless, sweet, juicy, big and cool. My kind of orange...


    Regarding the sunglasses, the book is not saying that you will get cancer because you are wearing sunglasses, or are blind. It's stating that if you are low in vitamin D3, you can take an extra measure to get some sun, by stepping out there as naked as possible. kidding that's my take on it. But, seriously, If you are depressed due to cancer and lack of D3, get out there!

    Take care! Raquel.

    Raquel -
    Vitamin D is real important, and from all I've ever read, the best
    way to get it, is to sit in the sun for 15 minutes and let your body
    use that sunlight to make it's own Vitamin D.

    The process the body uses to manufacturer Vitamin D when
    the skin is exposed to sunlight, is unique and complex. Just taking
    vitamin supplements doesn't do what happens when the body
    is making it, and isn't as beneficial.

    We can't fool Momma Nature, well... not for long, anyway.

    Most all vitamins, minerals, enzymes, etc., are best received
    from their natural sources. This bologna about taking supplements,
    and having it added to everything we eat, is pure BS. It's no wonder
    our systems malfunction. How can we have an immune system,
    a perfectly natural defense system, working the way it should if
    we only provide it phoney manufactured substances to survive on?

    I'll leave you with that thought?

    ( I have to, my White Castle Cheeseburgers are getting cold)

    Think healthy~!

    John
  • pete43lost_at_sea
    pete43lost_at_sea Member Posts: 3,900 Member
    #43
    John23 said:

    Raquel -
    Vitamin D is real important, and from all I've ever read, the best
    way to get it, is to sit in the sun for 15 minutes and let your body
    use that sunlight to make it's own Vitamin D.

    The process the body uses to manufacturer Vitamin D when
    the skin is exposed to sunlight, is unique and complex. Just taking
    vitamin supplements doesn't do what happens when the body
    is making it, and isn't as beneficial.

    We can't fool Momma Nature, well... not for long, anyway.

    Most all vitamins, minerals, enzymes, etc., are best received
    from their natural sources. This bologna about taking supplements,
    and having it added to everything we eat, is pure BS. It's no wonder
    our systems malfunction. How can we have an immune system,
    a perfectly natural defense system, working the way it should if
    we only provide it phoney manufactured substances to survive on?

    I'll leave you with that thought?

    ( I have to, my White Castle Cheeseburgers are getting cold)

    Think healthy~!

    John

    great news then, I just spent week in the sun
    john thanks

    I am lucky its summer and the days are clearing.

    I have been in the sun swimming, sailing, fishing, push biking and walking.
    Was a little worried about vit D and not having this d3 thingy.

    How dam stupid of me.

    I will hope my moderate
    but constant exposure is enough.

    cheers,
    Pete
  • Nana b
    Nana b Member Posts: 3,030 Member
    #44
    pete43lost_at_sea said:

    great news then, I just spent week in the sun
    john thanks

    I am lucky its summer and the days are clearing.

    I have been in the sun swimming, sailing, fishing, push biking and walking.
    Was a little worried about vit D and not having this d3 thingy.

    How dam stupid of me.

    I will hope my moderate
    but constant exposure is enough.

    cheers,
    Pete

    Pete...Where is it summer!
    Pete...Where is it summer! I want to go!
  • tesslee
    tesslee Member Posts: 97
    #45
    Nana b said:

    Pete...Where is it summer!
    Pete...Where is it summer! I want to go!

    thank you Nana for starting this topic
    and all the discussion within. i hope that it continues. i would like to add my two cents. i totally do believe that a compromised immune system is definitely a major and maybe the only risk factor for disease, whether it be cancer or another serious disease. and i do believe it is a disease of the immune system so therefore disease is where i would categorize cancer. i also believe there are many many different things that will compromise our immune systems. not just stress as this booki suggests but chemicals, compounds, many environmental factors. but i can speak for stress as i have much experience in this arena. what i am about to offer is very personal but may be of help to others if not then may be of help for me to release some of my dirty little secrets. i have an anxiety disorder. one to the extreme. about 5 years ago, i was tested by an independent lab with a saliva sample from me and the results were my adrenal gland was exhausted. while this test falls in the alternative category there is no non alternative remedy for this malady. only the knowledge and validation why you are always the first to catch a cold, or why you feel like crap so often. a good indicator to reduce stress in your life. but almost impossible when you are wired that way to begin with. so yes i firmly believe this book is very good and valid information as i am proof, but the caveat is as i said in the beginning of this post, there are many things that can cause a weakened immune system and stress is only one, so therefore my belief is that this book can be on value to those who are high stress individuals or those who want to understand the importance of what stess does to the body, but by no means is it the one and only answer. just my opinion from someone who has had more than her fair share.
  • tesslee
    tesslee Member Posts: 97
    #46
    tesslee said:

    thank you Nana for starting this topic
    and all the discussion within. i hope that it continues. i would like to add my two cents. i totally do believe that a compromised immune system is definitely a major and maybe the only risk factor for disease, whether it be cancer or another serious disease. and i do believe it is a disease of the immune system so therefore disease is where i would categorize cancer. i also believe there are many many different things that will compromise our immune systems. not just stress as this booki suggests but chemicals, compounds, many environmental factors. but i can speak for stress as i have much experience in this arena. what i am about to offer is very personal but may be of help to others if not then may be of help for me to release some of my dirty little secrets. i have an anxiety disorder. one to the extreme. about 5 years ago, i was tested by an independent lab with a saliva sample from me and the results were my adrenal gland was exhausted. while this test falls in the alternative category there is no non alternative remedy for this malady. only the knowledge and validation why you are always the first to catch a cold, or why you feel like crap so often. a good indicator to reduce stress in your life. but almost impossible when you are wired that way to begin with. so yes i firmly believe this book is very good and valid information as i am proof, but the caveat is as i said in the beginning of this post, there are many things that can cause a weakened immune system and stress is only one, so therefore my belief is that this book can be on value to those who are high stress individuals or those who want to understand the importance of what stess does to the body, but by no means is it the one and only answer. just my opinion from someone who has had more than her fair share.

    and yes
    taxing my already weakened immune system with chemo drugs is indeed very frightening. not to mention these same drugs are carcinoginic (sp) as well. talk about stress, lol.
  • pete43lost_at_sea
    pete43lost_at_sea Member Posts: 3,900 Member
    #47
    Nana b said:

    Pete...Where is it summer!
    Pete...Where is it summer! I want to go!

    its summer in australia and new zealand where the floods are
    you have given me another idea for a post.

    doing good things in the sun is fun.

    i may even take nude sun baking at the appropriate spots.

    but I just realised that i have a bag, dam that another potential foil.

    but heck what a great way to advertise how great bowel cancer is.

    all the nudies would see first hand what its looks like to get bagged.

    now that would raise public awareness.

    cheers,

    Pete
  • John23
    John23 Member Posts: 2,122 Member
    #48
    pete43lost_at_sea said:

    its summer in australia and new zealand where the floods are
    you have given me another idea for a post.

    doing good things in the sun is fun.

    i may even take nude sun baking at the appropriate spots.

    but I just realised that i have a bag, dam that another potential foil.

    but heck what a great way to advertise how great bowel cancer is.

    all the nudies would see first hand what its looks like to get bagged.

    now that would raise public awareness.

    cheers,

    Pete

    Pete -

    Beach Dialog:

    --
    "What's that?"

    "It's a Tick, I must have picked it up in the woods".
    --

    Stay well,

    John
  • Buckwirth
    Buckwirth Member Posts: 1,258 Member
    #49
    PhillieG said:

    Oppps - Too Late
    Can't edit it.
    "Some people are born with a pre-disposition for certain things. Homosexuality, cancer, alcoholism to name a few." This is the part (I think) that I meant to get across. I don't think people choose to be gay. It certainly is NOT a disease.

    Like I've said, cancer has many causes. Some you can control and some you can't. Some people swear the reason they live to be 104 years old is that they drank, smoked and ate fried foods. We're all different so it's hard to compare one person to another. These are the types of things that make cancer such a tough nut to crack. If there was only one cause of it I think it would be easier but it's not like that.

    Event the word "Disease" has many definitions. I think we both can find one that defines cancer to make our own point. We can call it whatever we want. My Dad used to say "Just because you call a horse a cow, it doesn't make it one" to which I will add "if you step in poop does it really matter who pooped?"

    I found the ideas expressed in the book at the beginning of this discussion to be something that I would not follow nor do I believe it is helpful.

    Now excuse me, I need to get my anti-gay vaccine....
    Oy!
    -p
    ;-)

    Somebody say poop?
    "if you step in poop does it really matter who pooped?"


    Only to my wife!

    :)

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