Why are people compelled to write about their religious beliefs in the specific cancer forums?

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  • imagineit2010
    imagineit2010 Member Posts: 152 Member
    PhillieG said:

    T&C
    "People are permitted to express their method of dealing and fighting cancer regardless of who disagrees. I have to ask, who are you sticking up for anyway when you reply on a religious themed post and say these posts are offensive to people" IF people read the Terms & Conditions of the site it would be a moot point Chris. They don't. I am more bothered than offended by reading the scriptures that are posted in specific cancer forums. I would also be bothered if in every forum people posted their sexual preference or political affiliation. It's got NOTHING to do with the cancer. I don't care what someone's religious, sexual, or political preferences are at all.

    It's not a B&W issue at all which is why it's one of those topics that is best to not be discussed at parties. There are so many opinions on it and it's not an argument that can won or lost. No one knows who created the universe and what happens after we die and all of those great questions of life. People may think they know and maybe they're right and maybe they're wrong.

    You're right, my even responding to those who post scripture is off the topic of fighting cancer. There have been times when I have not responded and things snowball into topics such as "Prayers for the week of xxx-xxx". As a person who has access to this public site I am not going to sit back and be silent and let the cancer specific areas become religious forums. Being quiet does not seem to help and flagging has only gotten people to start threads about censorship and/or freedom of speech. Not posts about "Opps, I violated the T&C of the site"

    I do disagree with you Chris on this being similar to the diet/nutrition debate. I don't think that saying that one should eat only healthy vegetables is the same as being told that if one does not accept Jesus as their savior that they deserve hell. Or that God gave you cancer because a person was naughty.

    I do agree with the respect issue too although you may not think that I do. I respect people enough to not start posts that I know would be offensive to people dealing with their cancer in the specific cancer sections. I'm sure on THIS forum I've offended many so as far as that goes, I am no better than the others.

    On another note, the colon cancer forum is second in posts only to the breast cancer forum which is probably why you see so many CC people here. It's all about T's & A's...
    Also, the main "blow up" started on there.

    be well
    -p
    PS: just one last thought on this. You say Chris that I could just ignore this (what I feel are overly religious posts) and not respond to them. You could have easily done the same with my post here but you felt strongly enough about the topic to voice your opinion on what I had to say. As you see, it's more easily said than done.
    Have a great weekend.

    The difference here Phil is
    The difference here Phil is that you started this post with a question which is asking for replies. The religious post I think you are reffering too openly stated it was a religious topic so as to give the reader the choice of reading it or not. No one was forced to read it and I don't believe it greatly reduced the amount of available space on the website. I for one have been on here for about a year and this is the first time i've read the "spiritual, religious forum" so I can see how someone could post in a specific forum first. Just saying.... Phil, you don't have to ignore it just flag it and move on without the conflict....
    Chris
  • Hondo
    Hondo Member Posts: 6,636 Member
    PhillieG said:

    Huh?

    COMPLAIN?

    I prefer to call it bringing to the attention of.....but I won't complain about the word complain ;-)

    I really do not think that this forum would exist without the comment over a year ago that made a reference that without believing in "HIM (Jesus Christ)" that all we deserve is hell. This was posted in the main comment section of a particular cancer type and not in a "religion or faith" section since they did not have them at the time. That comment really does not say much about "faith" in my opinion, it's more of an jab at non-believers in Jesus. And as far as saying we deserve hell, well that speaks for itself. It's the most un-christian comment I've ever heard without a doubt.

    So I am very glad that they did start this forum because a person's faith is very important to them and I personally find it very interesting to hear most of the comments made here. Especially by those who are NOT christian. You know I enjoy the writings of JC (the other JC- Joseph Campbell) and his comparisons between the beliefs of different faiths. Different faiths have a lot more in common that most people would think.

    But the point of my post was that there is a place for the Bible, Koran, etc quotes and it is not in the middle of the specific cancer types.
    You know I enjoy your posts Hondo. I hope you are doing well.
    -phil
    Hi Phil
    Just a lack of words on my part that I said complain, I should have said I see where you are coming from.

    Looks like a lot have posted on this tread with many different opinions, I just hope we can all find common ground and remember we are all here to help each other, whether that is by praying for them or just keeping them in our thought and wishing them good health. I think better then using scripture is showing someone who is in control of your life, and that is by showing them that you care.
  • imagineit2010
    imagineit2010 Member Posts: 152 Member

    Hi Chris
    First all, love your posts.
    Secondly, well, hmmm, I've tried to reflect on my words, so they aren't offensive to you, I enjoy seeing you, your thoughts, etc.
    I though, believe that when I see posts that are strictly religious, continuously religious in nature, that I get, well, I get sort of ticked off. Why is this? Because prayer did not save my first born, yes, I was deeply religious, yes I prayed fervently, yes, I believed that he would not die, all this before they put me to sleep, I awoke, to know he took his first and last breath and I was not there. They buried him while I was still in the hospital, only the Priest and the mortician were there to stand at his grave.
    You see the power of prayer didn't save him, no one prayed more then I when I knew he was in distress and needed to be born. Did my prayers save him? Simply, no.
    Did this turn me away from God? No.
    Did this turn me away from the power of prayer? No.
    But I refuse to listen to someone come on the colon network and tell me, that only God can save me. Heck I'm a worthless human being, compared to my innocent son, for whom the most powerful prayers were said for, so I KNOW the power of prayer isn't going to save my sorry arse. And that is why I have objection to it, why, I don't want to just see Bible verses spouted, why I don't want to be told, only God and God alone can save me, because just maybe he doesn't want to save me that day, so I've got to rely on something else to do so.
    I want to hear how you are doing, you ask for a prayer, by golly I'm going to say one for you, you didn't ask for a prayer, but you'll get one anyway, but that's doesn't mean I'm going to spout my belief's on to you. Not in my DNA anymore. I was a Bible toting 14 year old, believing every word, even becoming a minister, ministering to the homeless and the poor, now, well, now I'm just me. I pray to a higher being, I'll offer a prayer or two and hope they do some good. I'll take a prayer or two, heck some lady came to my house today and gave one heck of a prayer for me, did I deny her that? Nope, I closed my eyes, I let her pray to her God, and I hoped that a word or two from her might of helped. Did I totally believe in it? Nope. But I won't crush or play lightly with anothers beliefs, to each their own.
    But does it bother me to see it on the colon board. Simply, yes.
    Winter Marie

    Hope and Faith
    Hey Marie, I know we've had our differences before but I too enjoy reading your posts and feel you have alot to offer. First let me say how sorry I am for your loss no matter how long ago it may have been. To lose a loved one is a difficult thing and can devestate some people. I know first hand that some people carry on afterward and some don't. Second let me say that I do believe in God, always have and always will. I have faith and knowledge that I will continue to exist beyond what my physical body will allow. This type of faith allows people to continue living after horrible,sad and traumatic events in our lives like the death of a loved one. Some may call this ignorant bliss but it's better than intelligent depression. Some of the smartest people i've ever known suffer badly from depression. (too smart for their own good???) Faith and hope go together like this and hope is the greatest gift one person can give to another. Hope is like a blank check someone gives you for "emergencies only". Knowing you have it there makes getting through anything easier. A foolish person tries to cash it at the first sign of adversity.(my brother, a raging alcoholic, used to buy a lottery ticket and not look at it for a year waking up every day thinking "I might be a millionaire". He'd have 364 days of hope). I have seen someone with hope pass away and it is actually a beautifull thing. I have likewise seen someone without hope and it is a scary, dark ride. Anyway Marie, I have to ask, why do you think any religious post would be directed at you? You say you "refuse to come on the colon network and someone tell YOU that only God can save YOU". If it doesn't have YOUR name on it, why would you or anyone take that personal? If someone says they hate white people I don't think they hate ME personally so I'm not offended at that. If someone spouts off on cancer victims being jerks I don't take that personal unless I think I've been a jerk to someone and I may have caused that person to feel that way. I have punched in the face trying to break up a fight (when I was younger) and I did not retaliate on that person because I knew it was not directed at me "personally". (I've also kicked someone's a$$ just because they needed it and was thanked for it afterward). I think many people take things too seriously in life. Going into what you said about people praying for you and what this post is about I think most of us know the following. People tend to post on these forums for themselves. It makes them feel better to share something or to offer help to another person. When one gives to charity it makes the giver feel better about themselves. The most unselfish acts are deeply selfish in nature because, as anyone knows, it truly feels better to give than to receive and to help rather than receive help. So, knowing this, if someone offers a well intentioned post on here, regardless of it's content, I believe that person feels the need to do so and I would allow it. By showing that tolerance I feel better about myself and any small amount of sufferance I may experience is outweighed by the peace that comes with tolerance. Now, if someone's post is obtrusive or demeaning or insulting then I feel the need to voice my own opinion to counter that which I feel is intentionaly divicive. Also, you should know that while you may not want or need to hear about being "saved" I am sure you would agree that someone on here probably does and if it might "help" just one person and it doesn't "hurt" you then YOU have helped that one person by allowing it. Just like you did with the woman who prayed for you. She may have prayed for you but she did it for herself and you know that and by showing tolerance toward her YOU in turn felt better for it. It's a vicious circle of good feelings.... One more thing Marie, (also my Grandmother's first, my Mom's middle and my Daughter's middle name by the way), I know this is very personal and you can choose not to answer but why do you still have faith in medicine and doctors who could not save your son but lost faith in prayer for the same failure? You are obviously a caring and "spirited" individual that remembers how that 14 year old girl felt after "ministering" to believers or non-believers. Just the feeling of trying to help someone, a total stranger, for no apperent reason feels good so when you see a religious post why intentionally take that away from someone else. Of course in life there are some zealots and they can be annoying and sometimes dangerous and their intentions are what sepperates them and I agree with Phil in that ill intentioned ,threatening zealots should not be tolerated but all religious posts are not like that and to blindly prohibit all of them is wrong. Hope is a big part of healing and faith (in doctors or God)is a big part of hope and relgion is a big part of faith so it is all about healing and surviving which is what we are all here for.
    Here's "hoping" our "faith" in whatever has kept us here this long will continue into the new year.
    Best wishes to all,
    Chris
  • imagineit2010
    imagineit2010 Member Posts: 152 Member
    Marcia527 said:

    Actually Chris,
    I had been lurking about on another cancer discussion board and some people were talking about the CSN site and how they stopped coming here because it was too religious and if they wanted preaching or scripture they'd go to church. I was quite shocked because I didn't think someone would leave for that reason either and at the time I didn't see that many religious posts. But I have to believe it now. When you don't feel well lots of things will scare you away that you'd be stronger to deal with if you were well.

    All the people, all the time
    Hi Marcia, I understand but were these people religious at all or anti-religion people? I'm not here for a sermon either but it may help someone else and who am I to deny them? I'm sure if someone looks hard enough on the internet there is probably a site for aethiests and satanists and every other group. Just because someone doesn't fit in here doesn't mean they are left out in the cold. They are still welcome here whether they believe it or not and if there is enough interest they may even get their own catagory...
  • Marcia527
    Marcia527 Member Posts: 2,729

    All the people, all the time
    Hi Marcia, I understand but were these people religious at all or anti-religion people? I'm not here for a sermon either but it may help someone else and who am I to deny them? I'm sure if someone looks hard enough on the internet there is probably a site for aethiests and satanists and every other group. Just because someone doesn't fit in here doesn't mean they are left out in the cold. They are still welcome here whether they believe it or not and if there is enough interest they may even get their own catagory...

    I don't know.
    When I read

    I don't know.
    When I read the posts on the other site it was a couple years ago and I didn't see anyone stating what religion or non that they were. I can't remember at this point. I just felt a loss that they felt they couldn't get support here. This was before CSN started the religion board. Actually this board isn't called 'religion' board. hee hee. It's just shorter for me to type and I'm lazy.
  • Sonia32
    Sonia32 Member Posts: 1,071 Member
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    Hey Kathy
    Just wanted to say good to see you. Hugs
  • mariam_11_09
    mariam_11_09 Member Posts: 691
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    There are some Muslims on

    There are some Muslims on this board. They just don't speak out about their faith maybe because it appears predominantly Christian. Recently on the Breast Cancer discussion board when someone was asked to post her daily scriptures on this board many of the women were up in arms. When I pointed out that this woman was posting in violation of the terms of the board I was accused as the person who complained about her posting daily scriptures and this was the reason she could no longer post the on the BC board. I received other unpleasant accusatory messages for several days by several women! I did consider leaving the board.

    As for finding support, most Muslims find it from the support groups at their local Mosque. Muslim women are typically like sisters and will help each other out in any way they can. Likewise with the men. Charity is one of the 5 pillars of Islam and does not only mean charity in the form of money. The Prophet (pbuh) said, "Even meeting your brother with a cheerful face is an act of charity."

    I agree, it is a loss that other faiths don't always feel that comfortable or feel they will be well received even on this board.
  • Sonia32 said:

    Hey Kathy
    Just wanted to say good to see you. Hugs

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  • Marcia527
    Marcia527 Member Posts: 2,729

    There are some Muslims on

    There are some Muslims on this board. They just don't speak out about their faith maybe because it appears predominantly Christian. Recently on the Breast Cancer discussion board when someone was asked to post her daily scriptures on this board many of the women were up in arms. When I pointed out that this woman was posting in violation of the terms of the board I was accused as the person who complained about her posting daily scriptures and this was the reason she could no longer post the on the BC board. I received other unpleasant accusatory messages for several days by several women! I did consider leaving the board.

    As for finding support, most Muslims find it from the support groups at their local Mosque. Muslim women are typically like sisters and will help each other out in any way they can. Likewise with the men. Charity is one of the 5 pillars of Islam and does not only mean charity in the form of money. The Prophet (pbuh) said, "Even meeting your brother with a cheerful face is an act of charity."

    I agree, it is a loss that other faiths don't always feel that comfortable or feel they will be well received even on this board.

    I remember when all that was
    I remember when all that was going on but didn't know you were caught up in it! So sorry!
  • PhillieG said:

    Hi RE
    I was wondering what you posted then removed. I think you summed up everything with eloquence and all that crap ;-)
    I couldn't agree with you more with what you said here.
    Thank you for your post/comments.
    All the best
    -phil

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  • PhillieG
    PhillieG Member Posts: 4,866 Member
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    Hi Gracie
    "But to answer a question with "I cannot help you, but will 'Pray' for you" IMO is no help at all and really had no place in the Cancer Forum."
    I know what you mean about this. People ask for specific help on a situation that can be very critical and where time may be of the essence and to hear that I have no idea about anything to do with your problem is of NO help at all. People often like to hear themselves talk or just want to pipe in or join a group for the sake of joining a group.

    Just in general, the site has made a big switch from being a very helpful CANCER site to more of a casual "Hey, what's up and what sign are you" type site. It's changed for the worse IMO over the past 1-2 years.
  • PhillieG
    PhillieG Member Posts: 4,866 Member

    There are some Muslims on

    There are some Muslims on this board. They just don't speak out about their faith maybe because it appears predominantly Christian. Recently on the Breast Cancer discussion board when someone was asked to post her daily scriptures on this board many of the women were up in arms. When I pointed out that this woman was posting in violation of the terms of the board I was accused as the person who complained about her posting daily scriptures and this was the reason she could no longer post the on the BC board. I received other unpleasant accusatory messages for several days by several women! I did consider leaving the board.

    As for finding support, most Muslims find it from the support groups at their local Mosque. Muslim women are typically like sisters and will help each other out in any way they can. Likewise with the men. Charity is one of the 5 pillars of Islam and does not only mean charity in the form of money. The Prophet (pbuh) said, "Even meeting your brother with a cheerful face is an act of charity."

    I agree, it is a loss that other faiths don't always feel that comfortable or feel they will be well received even on this board.

    Hi Mariam
    I'm sorry to hear that you were attacked when you pointed out that it was a violation of the T&C. That has also happened to me on many occasions.

    I hope that you stay Mariam.

    There is a saying "One person's religion is another person's myth".
    Just something for people to think about.
  • Marcia527
    Marcia527 Member Posts: 2,729
    PhillieG said:

    Hi Gracie
    "But to answer a question with "I cannot help you, but will 'Pray' for you" IMO is no help at all and really had no place in the Cancer Forum."
    I know what you mean about this. People ask for specific help on a situation that can be very critical and where time may be of the essence and to hear that I have no idea about anything to do with your problem is of NO help at all. People often like to hear themselves talk or just want to pipe in or join a group for the sake of joining a group.

    Just in general, the site has made a big switch from being a very helpful CANCER site to more of a casual "Hey, what's up and what sign are you" type site. It's changed for the worse IMO over the past 1-2 years.

    I think I have to disagree on this one.
    Yes it's about cancer but support too. I think reaching out to say 'what's up' is part of support. We make friends and want to cheer them up also. So are you saying all these more personal notes should be on PM's? I post a lot that is not about cancer so I am interested in what is right/wrong. Is a laugh helping to lift someones spirits not allowed? I've often wondered about this but to me it's not wrong. I actually think it improved the site. So I guess I look at it differently. We can't agree on everything!
    :>)

    Actually I try to stick to the point when someone asks for specific help but I don't grudge someone else who posts support of any kind. It might be important to them to get a lot of answering posts. If they only get one or two they might see it as no one is interested in them. I've actually read a post from another stating they felt neglected because they didn't get many responses. So I disagree again. :>)

    Altho I have seen one poster who started a thread and complained when the responses didn't stick to the point. I guess it depends on the person.
  • Marcia527 said:

    I think I have to disagree on this one.
    Yes it's about cancer but support too. I think reaching out to say 'what's up' is part of support. We make friends and want to cheer them up also. So are you saying all these more personal notes should be on PM's? I post a lot that is not about cancer so I am interested in what is right/wrong. Is a laugh helping to lift someones spirits not allowed? I've often wondered about this but to me it's not wrong. I actually think it improved the site. So I guess I look at it differently. We can't agree on everything!
    :>)

    Actually I try to stick to the point when someone asks for specific help but I don't grudge someone else who posts support of any kind. It might be important to them to get a lot of answering posts. If they only get one or two they might see it as no one is interested in them. I've actually read a post from another stating they felt neglected because they didn't get many responses. So I disagree again. :>)

    Altho I have seen one poster who started a thread and complained when the responses didn't stick to the point. I guess it depends on the person.

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  • Marcia527
    Marcia527 Member Posts: 2,729
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    I can understand what you
    I can understand what you are saying. Since for the most part we don't really know the other person sometimes it gets tricky posting for what we say could be misunderstood also. I really believe that most people have good intentions tho.
  • soccerfreaks
    soccerfreaks Member Posts: 2,788 Member
    Marcia527 said:

    I think I have to disagree on this one.
    Yes it's about cancer but support too. I think reaching out to say 'what's up' is part of support. We make friends and want to cheer them up also. So are you saying all these more personal notes should be on PM's? I post a lot that is not about cancer so I am interested in what is right/wrong. Is a laugh helping to lift someones spirits not allowed? I've often wondered about this but to me it's not wrong. I actually think it improved the site. So I guess I look at it differently. We can't agree on everything!
    :>)

    Actually I try to stick to the point when someone asks for specific help but I don't grudge someone else who posts support of any kind. It might be important to them to get a lot of answering posts. If they only get one or two they might see it as no one is interested in them. I've actually read a post from another stating they felt neglected because they didn't get many responses. So I disagree again. :>)

    Altho I have seen one poster who started a thread and complained when the responses didn't stick to the point. I guess it depends on the person.

    I agree with you Marcia
    I agree with you Marcia (nice holiday pic, by the way :)), and suspect that nearly everyone else here does too. Support goes beyond cancer information, cancer experiences, facts and figures, links to trial sites, opionions about this hospital or that doctor, arguments about statistics.

    Support is also about cheering people on, rejoicing with them in their good news and commiserating with them in their bad, letting them know that we care and that we are there. Encouraging people when they are down or in the midst of treatment that seems unbearable, and doing the happy dance with them when they finish treatment.

    I think from reading the posts and responses of late, most of us would agree that having someone suggest they will 'pray for you' is not out of bounds, even in the so-called cancer forums (they are all cancer forums to me, including this one, after a fashion). To reiterate what has been said before, the real problem, the most significant one, is when folks opine to others that god will heal them, that faith will cure them. That can be dangerous business, not dissimilar to recommending a treatment plan, something else prohibited on this site but sometimes ignored.

    Some of my best friends on this site are fervent christians and are aware of my own state of unknowingness. Somehow, we manage to have intelligent conversations (not in the boards) about the nature of faith without cursing at each other, without damning one or the other to hell, without blaming faithlessness for disease or lack of cure.

    But I ramble. I concur, Marcia, even the so-called cancer forums are about more than cancer, are especially about more than cancer. It is as important to learn from others that they are living normal lives of a sort, that life goes on, that there are happy moments, funny times, that people are coping and even exceeding the boundaries of their former lives, than it is to exchange the latest cancer news.

    I once found it egregious and then wondrous that people in the Chat Room were having fun. The first time I entered that room, I was so offended that they were not taking cancer seriously, that I left immediately. It took some time to realize that what people were seeking there beyond the sense of immediacy that chat brings, was the ability to talk to other people WITHOUT the spector of cancer hanging over the conversation: we've got it, we know it, so let's talk about my kids. "What's for dinner?" "Is your dog still eating the rug?" That sort of seemingly trivial thing that normalizes things.

    It is an important part of personal repair.

    Take care, my friend,

    Joe
  • ms.sunshine
    ms.sunshine Member Posts: 707 Member

    There are some Muslims on

    There are some Muslims on this board. They just don't speak out about their faith maybe because it appears predominantly Christian. Recently on the Breast Cancer discussion board when someone was asked to post her daily scriptures on this board many of the women were up in arms. When I pointed out that this woman was posting in violation of the terms of the board I was accused as the person who complained about her posting daily scriptures and this was the reason she could no longer post the on the BC board. I received other unpleasant accusatory messages for several days by several women! I did consider leaving the board.

    As for finding support, most Muslims find it from the support groups at their local Mosque. Muslim women are typically like sisters and will help each other out in any way they can. Likewise with the men. Charity is one of the 5 pillars of Islam and does not only mean charity in the form of money. The Prophet (pbuh) said, "Even meeting your brother with a cheerful face is an act of charity."

    I agree, it is a loss that other faiths don't always feel that comfortable or feel they will be well received even on this board.

    Miriam I too post on the bc board
    I remember that. I am Christian, but I was bothered by the scripture posting. I thought, "if I want to read scripture I will read my Bible. I don't need to come on here to read scripture that this lovely lady has written." I ignored it, but I knew someone would report it.

    From what I understand, she was told not to do it anymore. She CHOSE to leave since she couldn't post scripture. I had no idea you were receiving messages. Sounds immature on their part.
    I'm glad you didn't leave. Stay on board.
  • nasher
    nasher Member Posts: 505
    yes lots of beliefs here
    Personaly I am part of the Wicca Religion

    And there are a few others of my faith on this board that i know of.

    Most of the time we just sit back quietly and let people pray to there own beliefs.

    I agree i do not like to see HEAVLY religious posts but I can always skip that section.

    In my religion we do not normaly openly post scripture or the like.

    I dont mind when someone prays for me to whatever god/godess/or group of, I just dont want to see something like John 84:82 with it quoated.

    Not trying to single anyone out or such but in my life it seems most Christains seem to believe that everyone else is also of there religion so the quote is helpfull.

    personaly one of my friends with Lupus is a ministers wife and knows we are Wicca. She prays for us and we pray for her and we have lots of discussions.

    alot of us just dont want to get hate mail so we dont speek up when we know we are in a heavy christian area.
  • bluerose
    bluerose Member Posts: 1,104
    nasher said:

    yes lots of beliefs here
    Personaly I am part of the Wicca Religion

    And there are a few others of my faith on this board that i know of.

    Most of the time we just sit back quietly and let people pray to there own beliefs.

    I agree i do not like to see HEAVLY religious posts but I can always skip that section.

    In my religion we do not normaly openly post scripture or the like.

    I dont mind when someone prays for me to whatever god/godess/or group of, I just dont want to see something like John 84:82 with it quoated.

    Not trying to single anyone out or such but in my life it seems most Christains seem to believe that everyone else is also of there religion so the quote is helpfull.

    personaly one of my friends with Lupus is a ministers wife and knows we are Wicca. She prays for us and we pray for her and we have lots of discussions.

    alot of us just dont want to get hate mail so we dont speek up when we know we are in a heavy christian area.

    Well I welcome you Nasher
    Truthfully I wouldn't know the difference between a Presbyterian and a Martian as far as personal beliefs are concerned and that doesn't bother me. Life is about diversity but one thing we all have in common on this site is cancer. It's hard to hold back on here no matter what beliefs one holds if in the past they feel that that has helped them, then they simply want to share what helps so others can benefit. That's a good thing.

    I agree though that when it gets too specifically more about recruiting into one's own beliefs then this isn't the place for it. I have shared spiritual moments in my life as it's worth it to hope it helps others but I don't preach any of it, just what worked for me.

    Welcome to the site Nasher and I think if we all follow CSN rules and stick mainly to the topic, with off moments for the sake of variety within reason, we will all have continued fabulous connections on this site.

    All the best.

    Blessings,
    Bluerose
  • bluerose said:

    Well I welcome you Nasher
    Truthfully I wouldn't know the difference between a Presbyterian and a Martian as far as personal beliefs are concerned and that doesn't bother me. Life is about diversity but one thing we all have in common on this site is cancer. It's hard to hold back on here no matter what beliefs one holds if in the past they feel that that has helped them, then they simply want to share what helps so others can benefit. That's a good thing.

    I agree though that when it gets too specifically more about recruiting into one's own beliefs then this isn't the place for it. I have shared spiritual moments in my life as it's worth it to hope it helps others but I don't preach any of it, just what worked for me.

    Welcome to the site Nasher and I think if we all follow CSN rules and stick mainly to the topic, with off moments for the sake of variety within reason, we will all have continued fabulous connections on this site.

    All the best.

    Blessings,
    Bluerose

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