Gotta see this one-The Gerson Cure-Juicing

kristasplace said:

Hi Tina!
The 90% success rate is every and all cancers around the board. Since they treat cancer as simply a break down of the immune system, all cancers (and most other illnesses for that matter), can be cured with optimum nutirition (or by the methods they employ). From what i understand, the 10% failure is of patients who did not follow through for the recommended amount of time needed to kill every cancer cell, or they went on and off the program, never fully committing to it. If you look at what the program actually consists of, you can see why there isn't a line beating down the door to get in, though i believe there is a long waiting list to get into the clinic. it's a very, VERY, strict regime, but i'll never forget an interview i saw of a woman who had a type of ovarian cancer that had a 100% mortality rate. She did the Gerson program, and became the only known person to ever survive it. This was almost five years after the fact, and she looked amazing compared to her "height of sickness" pictures.

I have never gone to the clinic in Mexico, but i did go to the institute in San Diego, and got a lot of information there, including pricing, and some descriptions of the actual program. They were about to close, so i didn't have time to look through their case files, but i have since seen recorded interviews of many of the terminal patients who were still alive many years after their expiration date, thanks to Gerson. Some doctors who have witnessed these "miracles" have actually given up their medical practices to advocate for alternative treatments. I've seen an interview with a few of them, and they admit they would have their medical licenses revoked if they recommended a clinic like Gerson to a dying patient. Don recommended "A Beautiful Truth" which got me started, and there are several others that i can't remember the names of, but i can find them if you want to know. I rented some of them on Netflix. There is also a video entitled "The Gerson Method" which i haven't watched yet.

I've already decided i don't have anywhere near the discipline required to follow Gerson's program, so i'm doing other things, and incorporating some of the Gerson methods i CAN do.

Hugs!
Krista

Is that what Gerson is
Is that what Gerson is claiming, 90% success rate for every and all cancers and other illnesses too? And only those who didnt followup or commit to it made up the 10% failure rate? And it includes all stages?

That means people with the most advanced stages of the most resistent cancers such as pancreatic, small cell lung and Mesothelioma, Gliomas/Astrocytoma Brain tumors, melanoma, throat, ovarian, Hepatocellular Carcinoma (Liver Cancer), Non Hodgkins Lymphoma, Multiple Myloma, Leukimia, Gastric, bone, stomach, and osteosarcoma would also be included. It also means the top diseases, which are listed below, would also fall within Gerson's category.

1. Diseases of the heart
2. Cancer - Malignant tumors spanning over 250 types and subtypes
3. Cerebrovascular diseases (stokes)
4. Chronic lower respiratory diseases
5. Diabetes mellitus (type 1)
6. Influenza and pneumonia
7. Alzheimer's disease
8. Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis
9. Septicemia (blood poisoning)
10. Chronic liver disease and cirrhosis
11. Primary hypertension and hyertensive renal disease (kidney)
12. Parkinson's disease
13 Acquired immune deficiency syndrome
14. Autoimmune diseases which there are over 80 such as Lupus and RA


There are more than 100 common diseases

The World Health Organization WHO has codes for doctors to use when diagnosing them. Their total amount of codes are 14,199, but I think there are more diseases being discovered all the time, and I think there are many illnesses, especially rare or exotic ones, that the WHO has not classified yet. ICD means International Classification of Diseases. The latest book of those codes is version #10

A localized disease is one that affects only one part of the body, such as athlete's foot or an eye infection.

A disseminated disease has spread to other parts; with cancer, this is usually called metastatic disease.

A systemic disease is a disease that affects the entire body, such as influenza or high blood pressure.

snommintj said:

No
It saddens me to hear nonsensical claims of cures. 90% cure rate is effing BS. I won't say the Gerson method isn't helpful but some claims on here need to be scrutinized. There have been several studies conducted regarding Gerson therapy patients. By most accounts, an extended life is about what you can expect with stage 4.

Gerson Therapy Cancer Survival Studies

1. 36 patients with Colon cancer that had metastasised to the liver where placed on the Gerson Diet against 36 control patients with similar diagnosis, not on the Gerson Diet. Mean survival with Gerson Diet: 28.6 months. Mean survival without Gerson Diet: 16.2 months. Duration of treatment unknown. [Study conducted by Germany’s Lechner P, Kronberger J. Erfahrungen mit dem einsatz der diat-therapie in der chirurgischen onkologie. Akt.Ernahr-Med 1990;15:72-8.]

2. 153 patients with Melanoma cancer were treated with the Gerson Diet. All 14 early stage (I and II) patients were disease free at 17 years, compared to survival rates reported in the literature of 80% - 95%. Of the 35 stage III patients, the five-year survival rate was 71%, compared to survival rates reported in the literature of 27% to 42% (p=0.002). Of the 18 stage IV patients, the five-year survival was 39%, compared to 6% to 20% in the literature (p<0.001). Not included in this analysis were 53 patients who were lost to follow-up. [Study conducted by Hildenbrand G, Hildenbrand L. Five year survival rates of melanoma patients treated by diet therapy after the manner of gerson: A retrospective review. Alternative Therapies 1995 Sep;Vol 1(4).

These aren't the only studies out there. Clearly there is an advantage but I'm not getting a 90% cure rate.</p>

this is a post from the EC
this is a post from the EC board from member ColeenB on Aug 6 on Thread "Dr Gerson"
or see thread under the same EC board titled "Shelly~Haven't heard~wouldn't waste my $~Sorry no such luck" dated June 27 3:53am by a very respected member.

Its amazing how facts get in the way of exuberent disillusionment such as 90% cure rates, just read below


wikipedia
A good source for me is to use wikipedia and then follow up anything on there with their footnotes. You can read the original source documents... if you want to...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Gerson

Max Gerson (18 October 1881–8 March 1959) was a German physician who developed the Gerson Therapy, an alternative dietary therapy which he claimed could cure cancer and most chronic, degenerative diseases. Gerson described his approach in the book A Cancer Therapy: Results of 50 Cases. However, when Gerson's claims were independently evaluated by the National Cancer Institute (NCI), it was found that Gerson's records lacked the basic information necessary to systematically evaluate his claims. The NCI concluded that Gerson's data showed no benefit from his treatment.[1] The therapy is considered scientifically unsupported and potentially hazardous.[2][3]

Gerson Therapy

Gerson's therapy required the patient to consume a raw plant based diet and to drink an 8-ounce glass of fresh organic juices every waking hour. Coffee and castor oil enemas were among several types of prescribed enemas, and some patients were given hydrogen peroxide orally and rectally. Rectal ozone was also applied. Dietary supplements include vitamin C and iodine. The diet prohibited the drinking of water and consumption of berries and nuts, as well as use of aluminium vessels or utensils.[5]
Initially, patients were required to drink several glasses of raw calf liver extract daily. Following an outbreak of Campylobacter infection linked to the Gerson clinic's extract, which sickened and killed several of the clinic's patients,[6] carrot juice was substituted.
Animal products and fats and oils were excluded (except for the raw calf liver extract and flax-seed oil), as were supposed sources of toxicity, including tobacco, salt, alcohol, fluorides, pesticides, food additives, and pharmaceuticals. Foods were to be fresh, organically grown and unprocessed. The therapy claimed to reverse any ill effects of exposure to environmental toxins over the course of 6–18 months, and Gerson believed it would be effective against most chronic diseases including tuberculosis, fibromyalgia, most forms of advanced cancer, arthritis (both osteoarthritis and rheumatoid arthritis), and diabetes.
Gerson's claims of success attracted some high-profile patients, as well as other alternative medicine practitioners. Gerson's daughter, Charlotte Gerson, continued to promote the therapy, founding the "Gerson Institute" in 1977.

Evidence
Gerson's therapy has not been independently tested or subjected to randomized controlled trials, and thus is illegal to market in the United States.[1] The Gerson Institute claims that Gerson's observational studies and case reports are anecdotal evidence of the efficacy of the treatment.[7] In his book, Gerson cites the "Results of 50 Cases"; however, the U.S. National Cancer Institute reviewed these 50 cases and was unable to find any evidence that Gerson's claims were accurate.[3] Gerson Institute staff published a case series in the alternative medical literature; however, the series suffered from significant methodological flaws, and no independent entity has been able to reproduce the Gerson Institute's claims.[3]

Independent anecdotal evidence suggests that the Gerson Therapy is not effective against cancer. When a group of 13 patients sickened by elements of the Gerson Therapy were evaluated in hospitals in San Diego in the early 1980s, all of them were found to still have active cancer.[6] The Gerson Institute's claimed "cure rates" have been questioned; an investigation by Quackwatch found that the Institute's claims of cure were based not on actual documentation of survival, but on "a combination of the doctor's estimate that the departing patient has a 'reasonable chance of surviving,' plus feelings that the Institute staff have about the status of people who call in."[8] In 1994, a study published in the alternative medical literature described 18 patients treated for cancer with the Gerson Therapy. Their median survival from treatment was 9 months. Five years after receiving the Gerson treatment, 17 of the 18 patients had died of their cancer, while the one surviving patient had active non-Hodgkin lymphoma.[9]
The American Cancer Society reports that "[t]here is no reliable scientific evidence that Gerson therapy is effective in treating cancer, and the principles behind it are not widely accepted by the medical community. It is not approved for use in the United States."[2] In 1947, the National Cancer Institute reviewed 10 "cures" submitted by Gerson; however, all of the patients were receiving standard anticancer treatment simultaneously, making it impossible to determine what effect, if any, was due to Gerson's therapy.[10] A review of the Gerson Therapy by Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center concluded: "If proponents of such therapies wish them to be evaluated scientifically and considered valid adjuvant treatments, they must provide extensive records (more than simple survival rates) and conduct controlled, prospective studies as evidence."[3]

Safety concerns
Coffee enemas have contributed to the deaths of at least three people in the United States. Coffee enemas "can cause colitis (inflammation of the bowel), fluid and electrolyte imbalances, and in some cases septicaemia."[11] The recommended diet may not be nutritionally adequate.[12] The diet has been blamed for the deaths of patients who substituted it for standard medical care.[13]