loosing weigh , need your experience about!

pepebcn
pepebcn Member Posts: 6,331 Member
edited March 2014 in Colorectal Cancer #1
After my second round of chemo l realize lm loosing weight , not dramatically but it worries me. Last year When l was on Folfox, I didn't
loos any kilo, but gain weight ! What really worries me is that I'm not having diarrhea or vomits , l eat very well and despite that l lost 2 kilos after 2 rounds.Does it have any explanation ?
All your experiences will be appreciated .
best to all of you

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  • Kathryn_in_MN
    Kathryn_in_MN Member Posts: 1,252 Member
    thyroid
    It wouldn't hurt to have them check your thyroid function. If you are eating fine, but still losing weight that is one possible cause.
  • coloCan
    coloCan Member Posts: 1,944 Member

    thyroid
    It wouldn't hurt to have them check your thyroid function. If you are eating fine, but still losing weight that is one possible cause.

    I would try to count how many calories I was eating/drinking
    (when I could)while undergoing treatment to try not to lose any more weight than I already had. At my lowest, I was about 130 pounds;started at 178; now I'm 177!!! Working out again for strength, not muscle. Maybe the foods you are eating are not calorie-rich.My concern was to keep weight on, even if it came from fat. I also supplemented with several cans a day of nutrition drinks, like Boost Plus, Ensure Plus (the plus gives an extra 100 calories for same volume of liquid)......steve
  • pepebcn
    pepebcn Member Posts: 6,331 Member
    coloCan said:

    I would try to count how many calories I was eating/drinking
    (when I could)while undergoing treatment to try not to lose any more weight than I already had. At my lowest, I was about 130 pounds;started at 178; now I'm 177!!! Working out again for strength, not muscle. Maybe the foods you are eating are not calorie-rich.My concern was to keep weight on, even if it came from fat. I also supplemented with several cans a day of nutrition drinks, like Boost Plus, Ensure Plus (the plus gives an extra 100 calories for same volume of liquid)......steve

    l awlyas been quite skinny 6 feet , 137pounds
    now 133 not very much in loose in 20 days isn't but many nervous !
    l eat all l can while in chemo actually everything l feel like!
    Every nitgth a complex of resource hiper-protein (300) kcal .Before sleep.
    Today's meu example :
    Brekfast :6 toasts small, with butter and strawberry jam. Big glass of almonds milk.
    mid day : small aperitif ,nuts and olives.
    lunch: Tomato cold cream ,and a big dish of pasta.,ice cream.
    afternoon: 1 muffin ,glas of milk.
    nigth: filet with some vegetables.
    before go to bed: resource hiperproteic 300kcal .
    does it sounds reasonably ?
    Pepe.
  • coloCan
    coloCan Member Posts: 1,944 Member
    pepebcn said:

    l awlyas been quite skinny 6 feet , 137pounds
    now 133 not very much in loose in 20 days isn't but many nervous !
    l eat all l can while in chemo actually everything l feel like!
    Every nitgth a complex of resource hiper-protein (300) kcal .Before sleep.
    Today's meu example :
    Brekfast :6 toasts small, with butter and strawberry jam. Big glass of almonds milk.
    mid day : small aperitif ,nuts and olives.
    lunch: Tomato cold cream ,and a big dish of pasta.,ice cream.
    afternoon: 1 muffin ,glas of milk.
    nigth: filet with some vegetables.
    before go to bed: resource hiperproteic 300kcal .
    does it sounds reasonably ?
    Pepe.

    I' m not a nutritionist but it tastes reasonable
    to me Pepe. I lost taste for most foods while doing chemo; ate alot of applesauce, fruit cocktail, a little chicken, lost desire for milk or yogurt, ate pasta and some vegs but relied alot upon nutrition drinks. Chemo stopped mid-April; appetite back but will not eat applesauce any more!!! steve
  • pepebcn
    pepebcn Member Posts: 6,331 Member
    coloCan said:

    I' m not a nutritionist but it tastes reasonable
    to me Pepe. I lost taste for most foods while doing chemo; ate alot of applesauce, fruit cocktail, a little chicken, lost desire for milk or yogurt, ate pasta and some vegs but relied alot upon nutrition drinks. Chemo stopped mid-April; appetite back but will not eat applesauce any more!!! steve

    Steve this is my main concerning l m eating well
    but loosing weigh , well let's be positive,less than 4 pounds in 20 days does not sounds dramatic specially when l m quite
    nervous this days, hope so!
  • khl8
    khl8 Member Posts: 807
    pepebcn said:

    Steve this is my main concerning l m eating well
    but loosing weigh , well let's be positive,less than 4 pounds in 20 days does not sounds dramatic specially when l m quite
    nervous this days, hope so!

    Pepe,
    How many calories are

    Pepe,
    How many calories are you getting a day? Your diet looks very good, but maybe you need to integrate some higher calorie foods?
    Kathy
  • pepebcn
    pepebcn Member Posts: 6,331 Member
    khl8 said:

    Pepe,
    How many calories are

    Pepe,
    How many calories are you getting a day? Your diet looks very good, but maybe you need to integrate some higher calorie foods?
    Kathy

    Katy honestly l dont know l have to calculate
    it, l m so lazy for this! LOL! l will do it today !
    Let you know!
  • Crow71
    Crow71 Member Posts: 679 Member
    Pepe - I lost a lot of
    Pepe - I lost a lot of weight after surgery in April. I drank lots of those supplement drinks like Boost, Ensure, Carnation etc. to get more calories when I couldn't eat much. There are also special drinks you can get that have even more calories.
    I lost weight on folfox and I think I'll lose on folfori as well; so I'm thinking about going back to Carnation - that was my favorite.
    Also - full fat Greek Yogurt is awesome!!
    Roger
  • coloCan
    coloCan Member Posts: 1,944 Member
    Crow71 said:

    Pepe - I lost a lot of
    Pepe - I lost a lot of weight after surgery in April. I drank lots of those supplement drinks like Boost, Ensure, Carnation etc. to get more calories when I couldn't eat much. There are also special drinks you can get that have even more calories.
    I lost weight on folfox and I think I'll lose on folfori as well; so I'm thinking about going back to Carnation - that was my favorite.
    Also - full fat Greek Yogurt is awesome!!
    Roger

    US Dept of Agriculture National Nutrient Database,
    at www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/Data/SR21/nutrlist/sr21a208.pdf

    should get you there....Figure at far right is amount of calories in serving size indicated by other 2 figures....Used this and another (which I can't find)site when I was estimating my calory intake....I'm sure there are better ones with more info/foods.....steve
  • pepebcn
    pepebcn Member Posts: 6,331 Member
    coloCan said:

    US Dept of Agriculture National Nutrient Database,
    at www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/Data/SR21/nutrlist/sr21a208.pdf

    should get you there....Figure at far right is amount of calories in serving size indicated by other 2 figures....Used this and another (which I can't find)site when I was estimating my calory intake....I'm sure there are better ones with more info/foods.....steve

    thank you Steve very helpful
    l estimate my needings in 1800/2000kcal !
    hope is enough !
  • pepebcn
    pepebcn Member Posts: 6,331 Member
    Crow71 said:

    Pepe - I lost a lot of
    Pepe - I lost a lot of weight after surgery in April. I drank lots of those supplement drinks like Boost, Ensure, Carnation etc. to get more calories when I couldn't eat much. There are also special drinks you can get that have even more calories.
    I lost weight on folfox and I think I'll lose on folfori as well; so I'm thinking about going back to Carnation - that was my favorite.
    Also - full fat Greek Yogurt is awesome!!
    Roger

    l Roger , l lost a lot after surgery too but now l was in my
    proper weight , You say you lost weight while on chemo, but because you where not hunger or just by the effect of the chemo by it self?
    My main concern is that lm hunger and eating fairy well no sense for any loose of weight unless this cut be a normal side effect for chemo.
    Beside that not major side effects just loosing hair as crazy and the problem of weight ,no pain , vomits tiredness or diarrhea ,thanks good!
    how about you?
  • PGLGreg
    PGLGreg Member Posts: 731
    Chemo can cause weight loss.
    Chemo can cause weight loss. See the comments in this thread: http://coloncancersupport.colonclub.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=14670
  • Annabelle41415
    Annabelle41415 Member Posts: 6,742 Member
    Weight
    Yes losing weight during chemo is normal. Even with my diet and eating all that was possible losing weight was part of it. Sounds like you are eating well, but think that chemo can eat up those calories just by what it does to your system. Hope you are feeling better soon.

    Kim
  • taraHK
    taraHK Member Posts: 1,952 Member
    high cal snacks!
    I lost 2 kg my first round and my onc wanted to reduce my dose. I promised him I wouldnt loose any more, if he'd keep me on the same dose. I'm on a 14-day cycle. I tend to loose about 4 lbs the first week (eating, but not enough) and then have to WORK to put it back on the second week. I find I can't eat too much at one meal so I try to have frequent healthy snacks during the day. And I am trying for healthy but high cal snacks like nuts (a lot), avocado.

    Good luck!

    Tara
  • Nana b
    Nana b Member Posts: 3,030 Member
    pepebcn said:

    l awlyas been quite skinny 6 feet , 137pounds
    now 133 not very much in loose in 20 days isn't but many nervous !
    l eat all l can while in chemo actually everything l feel like!
    Every nitgth a complex of resource hiper-protein (300) kcal .Before sleep.
    Today's meu example :
    Brekfast :6 toasts small, with butter and strawberry jam. Big glass of almonds milk.
    mid day : small aperitif ,nuts and olives.
    lunch: Tomato cold cream ,and a big dish of pasta.,ice cream.
    afternoon: 1 muffin ,glas of milk.
    nigth: filet with some vegetables.
    before go to bed: resource hiperproteic 300kcal .
    does it sounds reasonably ?
    Pepe.

    Oh my I am so jealous!
    I have been gaining away.....but no, really, if you are worried get it checked out!

    I have the following and since I have stopped working I am gaining about a lb a week...awful!!

    Cereal and soy milk, blue berries, raspberries, or a fruit smoothie
    almonds

    lunch, half a sandwich

    fruit

    dinner, salad and cream soup, or a piece of chicken and a couple sides

    no ice cream, no pasta, no muffin, no nada!

    juice now and then.....lots of vitamins, supreme greens, and supreme reds.