Krista
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Kristakristasplace said:Thank you, Lisa, for posting this
I didn't know if i'd be able to type for very long to post an update, so thanks to Lisa for posting this. Thanks to everyone for your well wishes, and loving posts. It made me very emotional. I'm having a rough time with bowel incontinence since the general surgeon had to reconstruct my innards, and now my body is in shock. I know it will pass soon enough. Then i will have to deal with the cancer issue, which neither oncologist will admit is theirs! The obgyn swears it's colorectal spread, and the colorectal onc doesn't agree. The path hasn't come back yet. They only took one ovary which is disturbing to me. The obgyn said the cancer is probably everywhere, and she's expecting the chemo to wipe it out. I don't know if i'm going to go the chemo route, and i hope her decision not to remove that ovary doesn't force me into doing it.
Wow, i'm worn out! I will post again when i know more.
Thank you all, i love you!
Krista
Oh man. I'm so sorry. I'm holding you in my heart my dear, and very glad to hear from you. Thanks Lisa for starting the post.
all the best, Leslie0 -
You're welcome Kristakristasplace said:Thank you, Lisa, for posting this
I didn't know if i'd be able to type for very long to post an update, so thanks to Lisa for posting this. Thanks to everyone for your well wishes, and loving posts. It made me very emotional. I'm having a rough time with bowel incontinence since the general surgeon had to reconstruct my innards, and now my body is in shock. I know it will pass soon enough. Then i will have to deal with the cancer issue, which neither oncologist will admit is theirs! The obgyn swears it's colorectal spread, and the colorectal onc doesn't agree. The path hasn't come back yet. They only took one ovary which is disturbing to me. The obgyn said the cancer is probably everywhere, and she's expecting the chemo to wipe it out. I don't know if i'm going to go the chemo route, and i hope her decision not to remove that ovary doesn't force me into doing it.
Wow, i'm worn out! I will post again when i know more.
Thank you all, i love you!
Krista
Krista! It's good to see your reply here. You've got a lot on your plate right now- rest up so you can be in a good mental emotional state for the decision making that you've got ahead of you once the doctors can figure it all out.
Hugs to you,
Lisa0 -
Woke up this morning withkristasplace said:Thank you, Lisa, for posting this
I didn't know if i'd be able to type for very long to post an update, so thanks to Lisa for posting this. Thanks to everyone for your well wishes, and loving posts. It made me very emotional. I'm having a rough time with bowel incontinence since the general surgeon had to reconstruct my innards, and now my body is in shock. I know it will pass soon enough. Then i will have to deal with the cancer issue, which neither oncologist will admit is theirs! The obgyn swears it's colorectal spread, and the colorectal onc doesn't agree. The path hasn't come back yet. They only took one ovary which is disturbing to me. The obgyn said the cancer is probably everywhere, and she's expecting the chemo to wipe it out. I don't know if i'm going to go the chemo route, and i hope her decision not to remove that ovary doesn't force me into doing it.
Wow, i'm worn out! I will post again when i know more.
Thank you all, i love you!
Krista
Woke up this morning with you on my heart Krista. Many prayers are going up for you my dear, and when I get to church today, I will also have our congregation to pray and then keep you on our prayer list.
Sincere wishes for you,
Valerie0 -
Dear KristaKathleen808 said:Krista
It is so good to see you post. Know that we are thinking about you and sending healing thoughts and prayers.
Aloha,
Kathleen
Please know that you will be in my thoughts and prayers.
Smiles,
Dawn0 -
So sorry to hear this,kristasplace said:Thank you, Lisa, for posting this
I didn't know if i'd be able to type for very long to post an update, so thanks to Lisa for posting this. Thanks to everyone for your well wishes, and loving posts. It made me very emotional. I'm having a rough time with bowel incontinence since the general surgeon had to reconstruct my innards, and now my body is in shock. I know it will pass soon enough. Then i will have to deal with the cancer issue, which neither oncologist will admit is theirs! The obgyn swears it's colorectal spread, and the colorectal onc doesn't agree. The path hasn't come back yet. They only took one ovary which is disturbing to me. The obgyn said the cancer is probably everywhere, and she's expecting the chemo to wipe it out. I don't know if i'm going to go the chemo route, and i hope her decision not to remove that ovary doesn't force me into doing it.
Wow, i'm worn out! I will post again when i know more.
Thank you all, i love you!
Krista
So sorry to hear this, Krista. I thought you were going to be one of the lucky ones. I hope you still will be. When you can update us when you can. Take time to heal...Paula0 -
Metastases
Hello everyone! Well, the verdict is in, and it is metastasis. Damn. Uncommon to have spread to an ovary; i've only been able to find one other case in my research, and it didn't say if she survived, or not.
I'm trying not to panic. I can only thank God that i have all of you guys to show me that i can beat this. So many of you have horrible degrees of metastasis, and you're fighting right through it. This gives me strength, and determination. I've pretty much decided not to do chemo. Going down that road last time didn't do much other than damage more of me, so i'm going to give my body a chance to do it by itself. I'm putting a plan together that will include many aspects of the Gerson method, along with the raw diet that had me at least feeling healthy.
Thank you all so much for being my main branch of support. I love you guys!
Krista0 -
Krista -kristasplace said:Metastases
Hello everyone! Well, the verdict is in, and it is metastasis. Damn. Uncommon to have spread to an ovary; i've only been able to find one other case in my research, and it didn't say if she survived, or not.
I'm trying not to panic. I can only thank God that i have all of you guys to show me that i can beat this. So many of you have horrible degrees of metastasis, and you're fighting right through it. This gives me strength, and determination. I've pretty much decided not to do chemo. Going down that road last time didn't do much other than damage more of me, so i'm going to give my body a chance to do it by itself. I'm putting a plan together that will include many aspects of the Gerson method, along with the raw diet that had me at least feeling healthy.
Thank you all so much for being my main branch of support. I love you guys!
Krista
For what it's worth: Google Stuff
Best wishes for a full recovery!!
John0 -
Not ovaJohn23 said:Krista -
For what it's worth: Google Stuff
Best wishes for a full recovery!!
John
Thanks john, i opened up the link, and there is a lot of interesting info there, but unfortunately, this didn't turn out to be ovarian cancer. I don't know how much difference it makes in the long run, i mean cancer is cancer is cancer, but if this had been a new cancer, the surgery probably would've been all that was needed. I think i've talked to you about the Gerson method before. I know several people who did it, and they survived. I know that doesn't guarantee i will, but it looks like my best hope for now. Combined with Eastern philosphies of meditation, acupuncture, and a mostly raw diet, should hopefully do the trick. My biggest challenge, really, is going to be finding the discipline to do what needs to be done. I'm not looking forward to coffee enemas!
How have things been for you? I haven't read anything recently giving updates on you?
Hugs,
Krista0 -
Krista -kristasplace said:Not ova
Thanks john, i opened up the link, and there is a lot of interesting info there, but unfortunately, this didn't turn out to be ovarian cancer. I don't know how much difference it makes in the long run, i mean cancer is cancer is cancer, but if this had been a new cancer, the surgery probably would've been all that was needed. I think i've talked to you about the Gerson method before. I know several people who did it, and they survived. I know that doesn't guarantee i will, but it looks like my best hope for now. Combined with Eastern philosphies of meditation, acupuncture, and a mostly raw diet, should hopefully do the trick. My biggest challenge, really, is going to be finding the discipline to do what needs to be done. I'm not looking forward to coffee enemas!
How have things been for you? I haven't read anything recently giving updates on you?
Hugs,
Krista
TCM doesn't describe things in the manner western medicine does,
so cancer in the ovaries is just a problem tumor in the overies.
Western medicne has to use a formula that will find a cancer cell
that's growing faster than the surrounding cells, so it makes a difference
where the cancer started from. TCM doesn't base it's remedies
on the same assumptions, and it uses different methods to seek
cancer cells specifically.
That aside?
Well, I never bought boat tickets to Iceland like I said I would....
I heard it's cold there.
My scans and CEA, etc., have stayed the same so far, not that it
means anything..... I don't believe in rallying over not finding anything,
since it's what they can't find, that usually ends up killing us.
I haven't taken herbs for almost a year, but I'm probably going to
do a six month bout with them again, just for the halibut. Maybe
it'll keep them from finding anything for another year, ehh?
Coffee enemas? Really? I thought they once said that coffee
was a carcinogenic? I'd just drink it and let it find it's way out
by itself, what the hell - in one way, out the other; does it matter
which end you put it into first?
You're a fighter.... Do what your instincts tell you is the right thing
to do. But please, please, please, read as much about what helps
kill cancer cells as you can.
There's more phoney stuff out there, than Carter's got peanuts.
Some things are better than others, and some things have years
of usage and success behind them. Take your time, relax and
know that we are all pulling for you.
My very best wishes to you !!
John0 -
i had mets to my ovarieskristasplace said:Metastases
Hello everyone! Well, the verdict is in, and it is metastasis. Damn. Uncommon to have spread to an ovary; i've only been able to find one other case in my research, and it didn't say if she survived, or not.
I'm trying not to panic. I can only thank God that i have all of you guys to show me that i can beat this. So many of you have horrible degrees of metastasis, and you're fighting right through it. This gives me strength, and determination. I've pretty much decided not to do chemo. Going down that road last time didn't do much other than damage more of me, so i'm going to give my body a chance to do it by itself. I'm putting a plan together that will include many aspects of the Gerson method, along with the raw diet that had me at least feeling healthy.
Thank you all so much for being my main branch of support. I love you guys!
Krista
in 2006, this was my first recurrence. At surgery in June 2006 I had a tumor the size of a soccer ball on my right ovary. The left ovary didn't look so good when they got in there either. I asked them to take everything, including the cervix. That's what I was fighting when they were taking 4L of fluid from my abdomen every week. The surgery and recovery were surprisingly easy, at least in relation to later procedures
. You can totally do this! Where are you going? I had a gynecological oncology surgeon do my procedure and even had a colon cancer team ready in case it looked like colon cancer, we were going to do the IPHC at that time. Initial biopsy came back as new ovarian, but the final path came back as recurrent colon. I didn't have the IPHC done, which turned out to be a good thing since when I had that done (they're calling it HIPEC now) last year, my recovery was very long and my mother was sick and wound up passing only a few weeks after my surgery back in 2006; I would have missed her services and everything. As far as how common mets to the ovaries are, my initial surgeon for the resection back in 2004 when I was first diagnosed asked me if I wanted to have my female stuff removed while he was in there because it often spreads to the ovaries. At the time, I told him if everything looks healthy, leave it in! So, who's right about how often it spreads there? Stay strong and you'll be on the other side of healing before you know it!
mary0 -
same thingkristasplace said:Not ova
Thanks john, i opened up the link, and there is a lot of interesting info there, but unfortunately, this didn't turn out to be ovarian cancer. I don't know how much difference it makes in the long run, i mean cancer is cancer is cancer, but if this had been a new cancer, the surgery probably would've been all that was needed. I think i've talked to you about the Gerson method before. I know several people who did it, and they survived. I know that doesn't guarantee i will, but it looks like my best hope for now. Combined with Eastern philosphies of meditation, acupuncture, and a mostly raw diet, should hopefully do the trick. My biggest challenge, really, is going to be finding the discipline to do what needs to be done. I'm not looking forward to coffee enemas!
How have things been for you? I haven't read anything recently giving updates on you?
Hugs,
Krista
Hi!
I just had the same issue. I thought I had a kidney stone and they found two masses near my ovaries. Come to find out they were cancerous and they were squeezing my ureters and blocking my kidneys. They removed both ovaries and most of my uterus and put stents in my ureters. The pathology came back as recurrent colon cancer. Not what I was expecting and now im trying to heal to start treatment again. Your in my thoughts.
Sherry0 -
integrative medicinecinkristasplace said:Not ova
Thanks john, i opened up the link, and there is a lot of interesting info there, but unfortunately, this didn't turn out to be ovarian cancer. I don't know how much difference it makes in the long run, i mean cancer is cancer is cancer, but if this had been a new cancer, the surgery probably would've been all that was needed. I think i've talked to you about the Gerson method before. I know several people who did it, and they survived. I know that doesn't guarantee i will, but it looks like my best hope for now. Combined with Eastern philosphies of meditation, acupuncture, and a mostly raw diet, should hopefully do the trick. My biggest challenge, really, is going to be finding the discipline to do what needs to be done. I'm not looking forward to coffee enemas!
How have things been for you? I haven't read anything recently giving updates on you?
Hugs,
Krista
Hi Krista, sorry to hear about what you are going through. I am a caregiver for my husband so I have a fair idea of what you are feeling to have mets. and not wanting to do chemo. You may want to check out blockmd.com they are in evanston illonis and they do integrative medicine.They do chemo but in a different way that you do not feel sick and also supplements and a diet with decreased meat intake. Good luck.0 -
Tough break Kristamsccolon said:i had mets to my ovaries
in 2006, this was my first recurrence. At surgery in June 2006 I had a tumor the size of a soccer ball on my right ovary. The left ovary didn't look so good when they got in there either. I asked them to take everything, including the cervix. That's what I was fighting when they were taking 4L of fluid from my abdomen every week. The surgery and recovery were surprisingly easy, at least in relation to later procedures. You can totally do this! Where are you going? I had a gynecological oncology surgeon do my procedure and even had a colon cancer team ready in case it looked like colon cancer, we were going to do the IPHC at that time. Initial biopsy came back as new ovarian, but the final path came back as recurrent colon. I didn't have the IPHC done, which turned out to be a good thing since when I had that done (they're calling it HIPEC now) last year, my recovery was very long and my mother was sick and wound up passing only a few weeks after my surgery back in 2006; I would have missed her services and everything. As far as how common mets to the ovaries are, my initial surgeon for the resection back in 2004 when I was first diagnosed asked me if I wanted to have my female stuff removed while he was in there because it often spreads to the ovaries. At the time, I told him if everything looks healthy, leave it in! So, who's right about how often it spreads there? Stay strong and you'll be on the other side of healing before you know it!
mary
I have two friends here in Spartanburg, they each had crc mets in their ovaries. One had hers removed last year, the other almost 2 years ago. Both are still cancer free, I think it is common and very treatable. I wish you the best.0 -
go Krista!!snommintj said:Tough break Krista
I have two friends here in Spartanburg, they each had crc mets in their ovaries. One had hers removed last year, the other almost 2 years ago. Both are still cancer free, I think it is common and very treatable. I wish you the best.
Hey Krista: All fingers are CROSSED!!! You not have to, but MUST get better!!! We are here...holding the website up for you, so that you can come back and tell us all the stories you have and how you recovered...that's RIGHT!!! Good luck, I wish you all the best!!!0 -
This comment has been removed by the Moderatorsharpy102 said:go Krista!!
Hey Krista: All fingers are CROSSED!!! You not have to, but MUST get better!!! We are here...holding the website up for you, so that you can come back and tell us all the stories you have and how you recovered...that's RIGHT!!! Good luck, I wish you all the best!!!0 -
Oh Kristamom_2_3 said:Krista
I am sorry to hear that you are having these new challenges. I have heard a number of cases where cc mets to the ovary so I don't think it's uncommon at all (albeit not as common as liver/lung mets).
I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers.
Amy
Krista,
What can I say, that hasn't already been said. You are a fighter, please keep on fighting. If you want to do a combo of some Gerson and raw foods you go for it. I don't blame you for not wanting to do Chemo again, it's an awful treatment to go through. Once was enough for me. I am looking at TCM like John23 has used. I'm just beginning my journey down the research path, but I really in my heart believe that all the processed food so common today has a lot to do with Cancer.Have you made it to the Gerson institute yet? I so want to go, but I just don't know if I have the discepline do follow it 100%. I will be praying for you.
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Ovary metscoolvdub said:Oh Krista
Krista,
What can I say, that hasn't already been said. You are a fighter, please keep on fighting. If you want to do a combo of some Gerson and raw foods you go for it. I don't blame you for not wanting to do Chemo again, it's an awful treatment to go through. Once was enough for me. I am looking at TCM like John23 has used. I'm just beginning my journey down the research path, but I really in my heart believe that all the processed food so common today has a lot to do with Cancer.Have you made it to the Gerson institute yet? I so want to go, but I just don't know if I have the discepline do follow it 100%. I will be praying for you.
Don
Hi Krista
I am sorry to hear of your news but want to tell you that I am living proof that you can do this! Don't know if you remember my story or not but here is the quick version.
October 2007 - Dx colon ca (CT looked good prior to surgery)Had an ultrasound prior to sugery(I am an ultrasound tech for 24 years)because I wanted to make sure there was nothing funky on my ovaries before they went in. Nothing real significant on the ovaries but I just did not like how my left ovary looked...so I told my surgeon that even if it looked normal that I wanted it out. The colorectal surgeon and the gyne onc both said the ovary looked normal but took it out anyway at my request. They left the right one in because I was 42yo, premenopausal and it also looked normal.
Well...... at final pathology it was positive for metastasis. I too was concerned that the other ovary was still in there. I talked to a gyne onc and both he and my oncologist felt it was more important to do chemo.
Then... In November of 2008 the other ovary had slight uptake on PET. That was enough for my onc to agree to having the gyne onc take it out. It also looked normal but final path was positive to for mets. The thought is that it was there at original diagnosis not a recurrence. I did not have any more chemo after the second ovary was out.
As you might remember I radically changed my diet, I supplement, decreased my exposre to toxins etc. Ultimately, I believe there are things I can do to help but that God is really whos in control.
I share all of this with you to encourage you to keep fighting because I am 2 1/2 years from original diagnosis (1.5 years from second ov)and am NED....back to work and feeling well. My onc has a patient 10 years out from ovarian metastasis and I know of a few others.
Please Please feel free to contact me or send me a PM. I would love to talk to you.
Hang in there girl. Boy,sorry that might have been the long version!!
Smiles
Dawn0
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