Does anyone know how to shrink a prostate??

Ralphie62
Ralphie62 Member Posts: 61
edited March 2014 in Prostate Cancer #1
We are considering procedures that require a prostate less than or equal to 40cc's. and we are 40cc's. we can use natural supplements, but not hormone therapy. Has anyone faced this dilemna or posted any natural supplement suggestions. I have read some articles on vit d.....

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  • jmchugh
    jmchugh Member Posts: 15
    shrinkage
    saw palmetto will shrink the prostate and is found in over the counter prostate health meds and will take a while to take effect- there are prescription pills that are stronger and act quicker that your doctor will be familiar with other than the "hormone shots" jm
  • HIFUgal
    HIFUgal Member Posts: 58
    jmchugh said:

    shrinkage
    saw palmetto will shrink the prostate and is found in over the counter prostate health meds and will take a while to take effect- there are prescription pills that are stronger and act quicker that your doctor will be familiar with other than the "hormone shots" jm

    Green light lazer, but I
    Green light lazer, but I don't think that's the answer for you.

    Bummer...

    Another idea for you to think on is capsacian.

    Personally I'd quit eatting meat, I go to lectures on cancer every year and MD Andersen keeps saying that they think red meat causes cancer, maybe it's the hormones in meat. Hormones in chicken too...buy organic. Pork doesn't have any, neither does lamb.
  • HIFUgal
    HIFUgal Member Posts: 58
    HIFUgal said:

    Green light lazer, but I
    Green light lazer, but I don't think that's the answer for you.

    Bummer...

    Another idea for you to think on is capsacian.

    Personally I'd quit eatting meat, I go to lectures on cancer every year and MD Andersen keeps saying that they think red meat causes cancer, maybe it's the hormones in meat. Hormones in chicken too...buy organic. Pork doesn't have any, neither does lamb.

    ralphie's wife,I have a
    ralphie's wife,

    I have a friend who was diagnosed with Pca and he is trying to get into the trials also, here is his answer to your question:

    "I went to my VA urologist today and he said my prostate size felt to be in the 30s cc range. That was his judgment from a digital exam, which is pretty subjective compared to the 48cc, measured via ultrasonic imaging 6 months ago.

    My PSA dropped from 5.7 to 3.07.

    For several weeks I've been taking PectaSol C + Diindolylmethane (DIM). So maybe the supplementation is helping."


    This guy is the king of supplements, he knows what to take for everything.
  • Ralphie62
    Ralphie62 Member Posts: 61
    HIFUgal said:

    ralphie's wife,I have a
    ralphie's wife,

    I have a friend who was diagnosed with Pca and he is trying to get into the trials also, here is his answer to your question:

    "I went to my VA urologist today and he said my prostate size felt to be in the 30s cc range. That was his judgment from a digital exam, which is pretty subjective compared to the 48cc, measured via ultrasonic imaging 6 months ago.

    My PSA dropped from 5.7 to 3.07.

    For several weeks I've been taking PectaSol C + Diindolylmethane (DIM). So maybe the supplementation is helping."


    This guy is the king of supplements, he knows what to take for everything.

    shrinking
    Thanks so much!! We'll get on it. I also found some good studies on lycopene, green tea, and pomegrate juice....all pretty much proven to hold growth and increase doubling times in prostate cance:) i learn so much everyday!!! you are great!! Happy Valentines Day weekend!! It's our anniversary!!! So. we have lots to celebrate:) R.wife
  • HIFUgal
    HIFUgal Member Posts: 58
    Ralphie62 said:

    shrinking
    Thanks so much!! We'll get on it. I also found some good studies on lycopene, green tea, and pomegrate juice....all pretty much proven to hold growth and increase doubling times in prostate cance:) i learn so much everyday!!! you are great!! Happy Valentines Day weekend!! It's our anniversary!!! So. we have lots to celebrate:) R.wife

    Hi,
    The pomegrante study was

    Hi,

    The pomegrante study was funded by the owners of POM, pomegranate juice. They gave USC 25 million dollars and asked them to prove that promegrant juice will help prostate cancer. So, I have a hard time really believing this study, all foods with anti-oxidents are going to show they are good for you and help with cancer.
  • HIFUgal
    HIFUgal Member Posts: 58
    HIFUgal said:

    Hi,
    The pomegrante study was

    Hi,

    The pomegrante study was funded by the owners of POM, pomegranate juice. They gave USC 25 million dollars and asked them to prove that promegrant juice will help prostate cancer. So, I have a hard time really believing this study, all foods with anti-oxidents are going to show they are good for you and help with cancer.

    Hi,
    He wrote me again and

    Hi,

    He wrote me again and told me how much he takes a day, plus he remembered one more that he takes:

    newly added since my biopsy:
    PectaSol-C (1 scoop powder, 3 times daily)
    Diindolylmethane (DIM) (1 smidgeon powder, thrice daily)
    Genistein (1/2 tsp daily)
    Ibuprofen (2 pills/day)

    Here are links to info on each:
    http://www.nature.com/pcan/journal/v6/n4/full/4500679a.html
    http://www.dimfaq.com/site/prostatehealth.htm
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/03/080314085038.htm
    http://www.nature.com/onc/journal/v18/n51/full/1203160a.html
  • Ralphie62
    Ralphie62 Member Posts: 61
    HIFUgal said:

    Hi,
    He wrote me again and

    Hi,

    He wrote me again and told me how much he takes a day, plus he remembered one more that he takes:

    newly added since my biopsy:
    PectaSol-C (1 scoop powder, 3 times daily)
    Diindolylmethane (DIM) (1 smidgeon powder, thrice daily)
    Genistein (1/2 tsp daily)
    Ibuprofen (2 pills/day)

    Here are links to info on each:
    http://www.nature.com/pcan/journal/v6/n4/full/4500679a.html
    http://www.dimfaq.com/site/prostatehealth.htm
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/03/080314085038.htm
    http://www.nature.com/onc/journal/v18/n51/full/1203160a.html

    Shrinkage
    Thanks!!! I've already got the pectasol and DIM ordered....a have genistein supplements/vit d and green tea/ pomegranant on board....i figure we have 1 month before we can be enrolled in the trials, so we'll recheck PSA's and u/s in 3-4 weeks......you have been a realy great help..do you think we could see a change in 3 weeks??? We are both in a really positive/ proactive place:) hope you are well and that you and your hubby have a Happy Valentine's Day!!! Ralphie's wife
  • HIFUgal
    HIFUgal Member Posts: 58
    Ralphie62 said:

    Shrinkage
    Thanks!!! I've already got the pectasol and DIM ordered....a have genistein supplements/vit d and green tea/ pomegranant on board....i figure we have 1 month before we can be enrolled in the trials, so we'll recheck PSA's and u/s in 3-4 weeks......you have been a realy great help..do you think we could see a change in 3 weeks??? We are both in a really positive/ proactive place:) hope you are well and that you and your hubby have a Happy Valentine's Day!!! Ralphie's wife

    yes
    He said he'd taken that stuff for "several weeks" prior to his PSA test, so yes, I think you can, being all you really need to do is stabilize his size. It's amazing how much his size went down and his PSA. If Ralphie's goes down the same ~ you may be on to something great! He doesn't mind being the second lab rat ~ does he? (:

    Hopefully the stuff arrives tomorrow!! This friend of mine who gave the receipe is a guy who loves to help people, it's all he does, he cured his own diabetes, and has helped so many others with all kinds of things, too bad it doesn't pay! But he doesn't care, he loves to help, he's a dear.

    I am happy to be helping as well! Happy anniversary week! How many years? We've been married 29!

    Good luck...fingers tightly crossed!
  • Ralphie62
    Ralphie62 Member Posts: 61
    HIFUgal said:

    yes
    He said he'd taken that stuff for "several weeks" prior to his PSA test, so yes, I think you can, being all you really need to do is stabilize his size. It's amazing how much his size went down and his PSA. If Ralphie's goes down the same ~ you may be on to something great! He doesn't mind being the second lab rat ~ does he? (:

    Hopefully the stuff arrives tomorrow!! This friend of mine who gave the receipe is a guy who loves to help people, it's all he does, he cured his own diabetes, and has helped so many others with all kinds of things, too bad it doesn't pay! But he doesn't care, he loves to help, he's a dear.

    I am happy to be helping as well! Happy anniversary week! How many years? We've been married 29!

    Good luck...fingers tightly crossed!

    us
    20m years of "us" this year...and we're still smiling!!
  • HIFUgal
    HIFUgal Member Posts: 58
    Ralphie62 said:

    us
    20m years of "us" this year...and we're still smiling!!

    And another 20 soon to
    And another 20 soon to follow! I just read ralphie's stats, you guys caught this early, and with a pro-active wife like you he's in great hands!
  • mautzu
    mautzu Member Posts: 2
    Health
    Finasteride is a synthetic antiandrogen that acts by inhibiting type II 5-alpha reductase, the enzyme that converts testosterone to dihydrotestosterone, and is a treatment for benign prostatic hyperplasia
  • mrspjd
    mrspjd Member Posts: 694 Member
    mautzu said:

    Health
    Finasteride is a synthetic antiandrogen that acts by inhibiting type II 5-alpha reductase, the enzyme that converts testosterone to dihydrotestosterone, and is a treatment for benign prostatic hyperplasia

    good info
    Mautzu,
    Good post. I believe Avodart also works in a similar way to Finasteride.
  • Kongo
    Kongo Member Posts: 1,166 Member
    mrspjd said:

    good info
    Mautzu,
    Good post. I believe Avodart also works in a similar way to Finasteride.

    Why Shrink a 40 cc Prostate?
    Going back to the original post, I'm wondering what treatment was being considered for shrinking a 40cc prostate? That is not an enlarged prostate at all and well within the "normal to small" range for a man in his 50s.

    A physical way to shrink an enlarged prostate is the TURP (transuretheral resection of the prostate), usually used to treat BPH.
  • mrspjd
    mrspjd Member Posts: 694 Member
    Kongo said:

    Why Shrink a 40 cc Prostate?
    Going back to the original post, I'm wondering what treatment was being considered for shrinking a 40cc prostate? That is not an enlarged prostate at all and well within the "normal to small" range for a man in his 50s.

    A physical way to shrink an enlarged prostate is the TURP (transuretheral resection of the prostate), usually used to treat BPH.

    TURP
    I don't believe that a TURP actually, physically, shrinks the prostate size in the same way that Finasteride or Avodart does (if I'm wrong here, I'm sure I'll be corrected). A TURP is like a roto-rooter procedure (sorry for the analogy) to "ream" out so that the urethra is relieved from the swelling and pressure caused by the effects of BPH. If the process is successful, it should unblock & restore urine flow.