post surgical sex

William Parkinson
William Parkinson Member Posts: 60 Member
edited March 2014 in Prostate Cancer #1
Hi to everyone. I have not yet selected what I am going to do about my own PC, but in order to make my decision more informed I need to ask one question and I have a quote which I hope the guys here who have had surgery can comment on. It is this: "Impotence is universal initially in patients treated with surgery. Studies indicate that only 5% of men treated with surgery describe their erections after surgery as being identical to the erections they had before surgery...." As I read the results on so-called quality-of-life instruments (questionaires) it seems like even after men get the ability back for erections they are just not the same. So for guys who consider themselves fully recovered (post surgery for at least one year) are you the same as before? Like everyone else I want my life to return to normal if I can after treatment--if it is at all possible. Thx in advance for any insight into this issue!!!
Cheers
Bill

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  • thegriz
    thegriz Member Posts: 23
    Surgery and Sex
    Bill -- I'm two years out from nerve-sparing Davinci surgery.
    First, some commments:
    > Two nerve bundles control erections, and at least one must remain in order to have any kind of "normal" erection. Unless your cancer has spread, most Dr's will try to leave both intact, and this will likely be one of the first things he will tell you upon awaking.
    > The nerves controlling the "feel-good" aspect of a climax and completely different nerves and not touched by surgery. Thus, even if the "erection-nerves" are removed, one can still reach a feel-good climax even with a soft penis, just not via actual intercourse.

    Now my personal situation at two years:
    > Initially, impotance is normal, but with the help of Viagra erections were possible at a month or so out -- whenever I was ready.
    > Incontinence will also be an early issue, but I found laying on my back minimized this in the early days.
    > Now at two years, I seldom use a pill.
    > One of the best medications is an understanding and loving partner.
    > My present non-pill erections take a little more "constant attention" to maintain, but are very satisfactory. Some might say this is "not as good as before", but it's partially a matter of attitude. I am very "satisfied" upon climax. They feel as good as ever.

    Hope this helps.
  • lion1
    lion1 Member Posts: 241
    thegriz said:

    Surgery and Sex
    Bill -- I'm two years out from nerve-sparing Davinci surgery.
    First, some commments:
    > Two nerve bundles control erections, and at least one must remain in order to have any kind of "normal" erection. Unless your cancer has spread, most Dr's will try to leave both intact, and this will likely be one of the first things he will tell you upon awaking.
    > The nerves controlling the "feel-good" aspect of a climax and completely different nerves and not touched by surgery. Thus, even if the "erection-nerves" are removed, one can still reach a feel-good climax even with a soft penis, just not via actual intercourse.

    Now my personal situation at two years:
    > Initially, impotance is normal, but with the help of Viagra erections were possible at a month or so out -- whenever I was ready.
    > Incontinence will also be an early issue, but I found laying on my back minimized this in the early days.
    > Now at two years, I seldom use a pill.
    > One of the best medications is an understanding and loving partner.
    > My present non-pill erections take a little more "constant attention" to maintain, but are very satisfactory. Some might say this is "not as good as before", but it's partially a matter of attitude. I am very "satisfied" upon climax. They feel as good as ever.

    Hope this helps.

    Griz
    I had a great response to this and the site froze--let me resend if this works.

    Lion1
  • William Parkinson
    William Parkinson Member Posts: 60 Member
    lion1 said:

    Griz
    I had a great response to this and the site froze--let me resend if this works.

    Lion1

    for lion1
    Hi lion1. I hope you can still post your comments; I would like to see what you have to say. And thx to Griz for his reply. It is encouraging.
  • lion1
    lion1 Member Posts: 241

    for lion1
    Hi lion1. I hope you can still post your comments; I would like to see what you have to say. And thx to Griz for his reply. It is encouraging.

    My Outcome
    Bill,

    3 1/2 yrs ago I had my surgery. After about two yrs my erections came back to just about normal using Cialis, but about 3/4" shorter. Now when I say normal I mean most of the time under the right circumstances, I get a descent erection and the feeling is great. However, I said under the right circumstances. My wife is terrific, but long lovemaking sections don't always occur due to work and schedule. The thing I think that most men would say is the spontaniety is gone. And sex takes a lot more work. I believe my wife would be ready any time for a quickie, but maybe I am not, since sometimes an erection doesn't happen in 10 seconds, like it use to. I am very thankful for what I still have.

    I also believe my incontinence after 3 1/2 yrs makes things even more difficult. But, once I am hard the leaking stops. My WIFE SAYS iF I could have an erection all day, I wouldn't leak and she's right. I am currently working on a fix for the incontinence.

    Hope this helps--you'll find that everyone goes through different crap!!


    But, you have to pull all the positives out--or you'll become an unhappy camper.


    Lion1
  • William Parkinson
    William Parkinson Member Posts: 60 Member
    lion1 said:

    My Outcome
    Bill,

    3 1/2 yrs ago I had my surgery. After about two yrs my erections came back to just about normal using Cialis, but about 3/4" shorter. Now when I say normal I mean most of the time under the right circumstances, I get a descent erection and the feeling is great. However, I said under the right circumstances. My wife is terrific, but long lovemaking sections don't always occur due to work and schedule. The thing I think that most men would say is the spontaniety is gone. And sex takes a lot more work. I believe my wife would be ready any time for a quickie, but maybe I am not, since sometimes an erection doesn't happen in 10 seconds, like it use to. I am very thankful for what I still have.

    I also believe my incontinence after 3 1/2 yrs makes things even more difficult. But, once I am hard the leaking stops. My WIFE SAYS iF I could have an erection all day, I wouldn't leak and she's right. I am currently working on a fix for the incontinence.

    Hope this helps--you'll find that everyone goes through different crap!!


    But, you have to pull all the positives out--or you'll become an unhappy camper.


    Lion1

    Lion 1
    Thx Lion1 for telling me of your outcome. I hate this loss of size stuff that seems to happen to everyone. You are right of course; I will be far too unhappy if I dwell on the negative things. Thx again for telling me of your outcome.
    Cheers
    Bill
  • saoco
    saoco Member Posts: 43

    Lion 1
    Thx Lion1 for telling me of your outcome. I hate this loss of size stuff that seems to happen to everyone. You are right of course; I will be far too unhappy if I dwell on the negative things. Thx again for telling me of your outcome.
    Cheers
    Bill

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  • William Parkinson
    William Parkinson Member Posts: 60 Member
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    Making an informed decision
    Making an informed decision is not being negative. I, and others, seek information, not critical comments that add nothing to the discussion at hand.
  • lion1
    lion1 Member Posts: 241

    Making an informed decision
    Making an informed decision is not being negative. I, and others, seek information, not critical comments that add nothing to the discussion at hand.

    You're right Bill
    Everyone is thrown a different curve ball.


    I am concerned about a cure for my incontinence.

    Jim is concerned about his ED.

    Dave wonders how he'll cope with the cancer that has spread throughout his body.

    See that what this sight is all about, we discuss what bothers us and what affects our quality of life and others who are affected by the same things we are provide their support, guidance, and understanding.

    This does not diminish the degree that others suffer.

    This site should be used to vent, but not insult, lecture, or silence the search for a cure to whatever affliction one is going through.

    God Bles and I hope all find resolve here.


    Lion1
  • nymets1
    nymets1 Member Posts: 26
    lion1 said:

    You're right Bill
    Everyone is thrown a different curve ball.


    I am concerned about a cure for my incontinence.

    Jim is concerned about his ED.

    Dave wonders how he'll cope with the cancer that has spread throughout his body.

    See that what this sight is all about, we discuss what bothers us and what affects our quality of life and others who are affected by the same things we are provide their support, guidance, and understanding.

    This does not diminish the degree that others suffer.

    This site should be used to vent, but not insult, lecture, or silence the search for a cure to whatever affliction one is going through.

    God Bles and I hope all find resolve here.


    Lion1

    For anyone who has not had
    For anyone who has not had success, there is one thing that works almost always----injections.
    However, one must get past the "pinch," the lack of spontuneuty and learn the right dose that is needed. A uro or his assistant is very important in helping with this. But it WORKS.
  • William Parkinson
    William Parkinson Member Posts: 60 Member
    nymets1 said:

    For anyone who has not had
    For anyone who has not had success, there is one thing that works almost always----injections.
    However, one must get past the "pinch," the lack of spontuneuty and learn the right dose that is needed. A uro or his assistant is very important in helping with this. But it WORKS.

    Thx nymets about the info on
    Thx nymets about the info on the injections. I am not against going that route if I need to, but I did wonder about the pain aspect. I know only one man here who is using them and he said it is no big deal, but I did wonder if he might be downplaying the pain involved. I am encouraged that it at least works well!!!
    Cheers
    Bill