crazy sexy cancer documentary ratings

scouty
scouty Member Posts: 1,965 Member
edited March 2014 in Colorectal Cancer #1
Please share your thoughts.........

Lisa Rose and I talked during almost every commercial. I am very glad I recorded it so I can watch it again and then probably again. The book is very different from the film I have to add, both great just different perspectives.

Lisa Squared (Lisa Rose and Scouty) give the film 2 thumbs up for sure with dozens of life lessons for us all.

Lisa Squared

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  • Joy1216
    Joy1216 Member Posts: 290 Member
    I thought it was inspiring and can't believe she was so open to try that many types of complementary medicine. What an attitude each of the women in the documentary had! I'll definitely have to read the book.
    Joy
  • StacyGleaso
    StacyGleaso Member Posts: 1,233 Member
    Missed it....by the time I got all 3 kids fed, homework re-checked, and of course washed my car, it was probably 11:15 when I finally dropped due to exhaustion.

    I'm confident it will run again.

    See you in 2 weeks!!!

    Stacy
  • christeleb
    christeleb Member Posts: 60
    I loved it!! What an inspiration!! I laughed, I cried...

    I'm now reading the book.

    Christele
  • shmurciakova
    shmurciakova Member Posts: 906 Member
    My favorite part of the film was when the guru (for lack of a better word) tell sher that "Fear is the cancer" and she needed to get rid of the "stinking thinking". I whole heartedly agree with that. I believe that it does not matter what you eat if you don't get rid of the negative thinking you cannot be totally healed....I thought it was a really neat, youthful perspective of the cancer experience. I was glad that she included the other women in the movie as well since she herself did not go through any treatments. I appreciated how the film depicts the mental anguish of the cancer experience. Maybe sometimes ignorance is bliss? Of course, if she was unaware she never would have changed her diet or gone on her healing journey. It made me feel like I need to re-commit to my dietary changes and get serious about veggies again. Although, I am not going to start growing my own wheat grass!
    Another thought I had was how healthy she looks, and how healthy I look and looked through the entire cancer journey. It is strange that you can have "the beast" and show no obvious outward signs. I think that is an important thing for people to realize. You can look totally "normal" and have cancer inside your body and you would never even know! You don't have to look sick to have cancer.
    I also felt like, wow, these women are just like me...which was pretty cool.
    Everyone should see this movie! I am sure it will repeat many times.
    Love,
    Susan
  • kerry
    kerry Member Posts: 1,313 Member

    Missed it....by the time I got all 3 kids fed, homework re-checked, and of course washed my car, it was probably 11:15 when I finally dropped due to exhaustion.

    I'm confident it will run again.

    See you in 2 weeks!!!

    Stacy

    I missed it too! Didn't get home until late. Would love to see it!

    Kerry
  • crazylady
    crazylady Member Posts: 543 Member
    Hi Everyone,
    I taped the movie and watched it this morning. I thought it was great! It showed many different perspectives of living with cancer which I think is really important. I'd really like to get my friends and family to watch it. It might give them a better understanding of what I'm going through.
    Jamie
  • Limey
    Limey Member Posts: 446 Member
    Missed it here. would really like to see it though.
  • 2bhealed
    2bhealed Member Posts: 2,064 Member
    I LOVED IT! But I love the book even more.....obviously she goes more indepth than can be covered in the film.

    Of course she was singing to the choir,and I too, appreciated that she included so many different cancers, treatments, and personal experiences of her "Cancer Posse".

    For me, it was important for some of my family to witness that what she was able to articulate was so often how I felt. Even though it's so after the fact for me being 6 years out, it still made me feel validated for all the emotions I experienced.

    Well, and it didn't hurt that Kris is such a gorgeous woman, inside and out. :-)

    THUMBS UP!

    peace, emily the juice chick ;-)
  • spongebob
    spongebob Member Posts: 2,565 Member
    I really enjoyed it, too. She "gets it" about attitude. Between positive thoughts and wheat grass juice it's no wonder she's stable disease!

    Em, i thought of you when I saw her juicing her wheat grass. I have that book by Dr. Young on pH diet - it's very interesting. I especially like that he's totally about avacados. I eat as many of those as I can - usually as guacamole while i drink my margaritas!

    See y'all in less than 2 weeks! Katie and I get in on Wednesday evening. Katie's mom (also a SemiColon) arrives on Thursday afternoon. my dad and his wife (a BC survivor) will get in on Friday for dinner. I've got my cowboy boots and hat - how 'bout y'all?!

    - SB
  • moniquebar
    moniquebar Member Posts: 57
    Hmmmm. I've been wary about responding to this question, as I sometimes feel as if I can be a bit of a downer at times. That said:

    While I certainly appreciated Kris Carr's charm, determination and plucky nature, I found myself a little skeptical of her approach, or rather skeptical while applying her approach to colorectal cancer. While I agree that positive thinking can be extremely beneficial for some people, studies have shown that it can actually be detrimental to those who are not bonny by nature. Instead, some people feel a need "to perform", and this added stress can be detrimental to one's health. Further, some alternative healing methods, like colonic irrigation, or even something as benign as essiac tea, have proven to be damaging for colorectal patients, as both methods can aggravate the bowel.

    Most importantly, as is the case with a friend of mine, sometimes it doesn't matter how much kale one crunches, how many smoothies one swallows, how many yoga positions one learns, or how positive one is, some of us just aren't lucky enough to achieve long-term remission, or even short-term remission, no matter what we do. Not to say that I'm not aware of how important eating well and exercising regularly is (however, when I was undergoing chemo I couldn't eat well, as my body would not tolerate fresh fruits or vegetables, and exercise was sporadic due to low energy levels). In close, while I enjoyed the documentary, I was a little disappointed. Likely, I was expecting a documentary closely related to my own colon cancer experience. Of course, that's not Kris's fault.

    Monique
  • 2bhealed
    2bhealed Member Posts: 2,064 Member
    spongebob said:

    I really enjoyed it, too. She "gets it" about attitude. Between positive thoughts and wheat grass juice it's no wonder she's stable disease!

    Em, i thought of you when I saw her juicing her wheat grass. I have that book by Dr. Young on pH diet - it's very interesting. I especially like that he's totally about avacados. I eat as many of those as I can - usually as guacamole while i drink my margaritas!

    See y'all in less than 2 weeks! Katie and I get in on Wednesday evening. Katie's mom (also a SemiColon) arrives on Thursday afternoon. my dad and his wife (a BC survivor) will get in on Friday for dinner. I've got my cowboy boots and hat - how 'bout y'all?!

    - SB

    hey SB,

    I was just in the Diet aisle at Barnes & Noble looking for that book and the guy standing next to me was holding the last copy. He offered to let me have it, but I told him that I would wait.....and while you're at it, sign up for my Juicing Workshop at the coop!! haha! If I weren't married, I would sure know where to pick up guys! B&N

    I want the book for my personal Reference Library. I checked it out from the public library.....it's pretty key to health IMO.

    Sounds like I'll be missing quite the party in Nashville! boohoo.

    peace, emily the juice chick
  • 2bhealed
    2bhealed Member Posts: 2,064 Member

    Hmmmm. I've been wary about responding to this question, as I sometimes feel as if I can be a bit of a downer at times. That said:

    While I certainly appreciated Kris Carr's charm, determination and plucky nature, I found myself a little skeptical of her approach, or rather skeptical while applying her approach to colorectal cancer. While I agree that positive thinking can be extremely beneficial for some people, studies have shown that it can actually be detrimental to those who are not bonny by nature. Instead, some people feel a need "to perform", and this added stress can be detrimental to one's health. Further, some alternative healing methods, like colonic irrigation, or even something as benign as essiac tea, have proven to be damaging for colorectal patients, as both methods can aggravate the bowel.

    Most importantly, as is the case with a friend of mine, sometimes it doesn't matter how much kale one crunches, how many smoothies one swallows, how many yoga positions one learns, or how positive one is, some of us just aren't lucky enough to achieve long-term remission, or even short-term remission, no matter what we do. Not to say that I'm not aware of how important eating well and exercising regularly is (however, when I was undergoing chemo I couldn't eat well, as my body would not tolerate fresh fruits or vegetables, and exercise was sporadic due to low energy levels). In close, while I enjoyed the documentary, I was a little disappointed. Likely, I was expecting a documentary closely related to my own colon cancer experience. Of course, that's not Kris's fault.

    Monique

    Hi Monique,

    Isn't life grand when it's full of such unique individuals who find different paths of success for living? i sure think so. And I am saddened by those who leave us sooner than we would like. But while I am alive I sure prefer to hook up with those whose energies are more upbeat over the cynics. Kris definitely falls in the upbeat genre. That was one of the many reasons why I did so love her film. She puts LIFE into LIVING! A gal after my own heart.

    As for some of her methods......as a colon cancer survivor who only did alternatives post surgery, things that included colon irrigations and Essiac Tea, I never had a problem with either of them. Not sure where you found your info on "proven to be damaging for colorectal patients." And if so, how damaging? Any more than chemo? I would guess highly unlikely.

    I also did many organic coffee enemas to boot! Yes, there are those who do these things and do not live to write a book or make a documentary about it, but for those of us who either did this stuff, or are looking for hope, I think it was rockin'!

    There are no magic bullets on either side of the cancer curing coin, but there sure are many facets of healing that we can incorporate without having to feel the pressure to perform. If one is feeling the stress of performance then one really isn't focused on the business of living IMO. Performance based recovery is putting too much emphasis on what others think about us. True healing, IMO, comes from caring what WE think about OURSELVES.

    Personally, I never used the word remission in regards to having cancer. It, to me, sounds too temporary and I focus on permanent. Just another way of approaching the same thing. Not right or wrong. Just different.


    peace, emily the juice chick
  • moniquebar
    moniquebar Member Posts: 57
    Hello, Emily

    I sense that you are upset with me, and I'm not entirely sure why.

    Sometimes life is grand, sometimes not so grand. As far as choosing company, I must say that I don't purposely surround myself with "upbeat" people, instead, my friends are intelligent, humorous, compassionate individuals--sometimes positive, sometimes indifferent, sometimes negative, depending upon the circumstances. As I stated earlier, I don't have a problem with Kris Carr. I thought she was extremely charming, and I admired how courageous she was. However, I was somewhat skeptical of her alternative approach (skeptical, not cynical--there's a difference) in respect to colorectal cancer.

    I'm pleased that you never had a problem with either essiac tea, or colonics, but some studies have shown that some people do.

    "Long term anthranoid laxative [e.g. rhein and emodin found in essiac] use is correlated with increased risk of colon cancer." (Van Gorkom)

    Link here: http://www.bccancer.bc.ca/PPI/UnconventionalTherapies/EssiacFlor*Essence.htm

    "Colonic irrigation must be carefully administered to prevent potentially serious adverse effects. Excessive treatments may lead to absorption of too much water leading to electrolyte imbalances, nausea, vomiting, heart failure/fluid in the lungs, abnormal heart rhythms, or coma. Infections have been reported with the use of colonic irrigation, possibly due to contaminated equipment or as a result of clearing out normal colon bacteria allowing infectious bacteria to overgrow. There is a risk of bowel perforation (breakage of the bowel wall), which is a serious complication that can lead to septic shock and death.
    People with diverticulitis, ulcerative colitis, Crohn's disease, severe or internal hemorrhoids, rectal/colon tumors, or recovering from bowel surgery should avoid colon irrigation, unless specifically directed by a doctor. Frequent treatments should be avoided in people with heart disease or kidney disease. Be sure that colonic equipment is sterile, and that the practitioner is a well-qualified healthcare provider before accepting treatment. Colonic irrigation should not be used as the sole treatment for serious conditions instead of more proven therapies, and should not delay the time before a qualified healthcare provider is consulted for potentially serious symptoms or illnesses."

    Link here: http://www.netwellness.org/question.cfm/36988.htm

    In answer to your question: yes, chemo is damaging--I can certainly attest to that, it's the nature of the beast. However, I'm happy that I opted for chemo, just as I'm happy to have decided to pursue a healthy lifestyle (believe it or not Emily, I juice regularily...something I did even before my cancer diagnosis). And you're absolutely right--there are no magic bullets. Personally, I dodge the bullets by referring to documented research, as opposed to rhetoric, or anecdotal evidence. Each of us has our own path to knowledge, and as you like to share your knowledge, I too like to share the things that I have learned.

    Best,
    Monique
  • StacyGleaso
    StacyGleaso Member Posts: 1,233 Member
    spongebob said:

    I really enjoyed it, too. She "gets it" about attitude. Between positive thoughts and wheat grass juice it's no wonder she's stable disease!

    Em, i thought of you when I saw her juicing her wheat grass. I have that book by Dr. Young on pH diet - it's very interesting. I especially like that he's totally about avacados. I eat as many of those as I can - usually as guacamole while i drink my margaritas!

    See y'all in less than 2 weeks! Katie and I get in on Wednesday evening. Katie's mom (also a SemiColon) arrives on Thursday afternoon. my dad and his wife (a BC survivor) will get in on Friday for dinner. I've got my cowboy boots and hat - how 'bout y'all?!

    - SB

    Dang, Sponger, a whole family reunion!

    So let me guess...

    Katie.......The Contraceptive Sponge (honeymooners!)
    Your Mother-in-law...The kitchen floor mop sponge
    Your mom....The Mr. Clean Eraser Sponge
    Your dad....Car Wash Sponge
    Your step mom...Swiffer Multi-purpose Cleaning Sponge

    So I guess the only question is...when are you and Katie cranking out a little "Squeegee"?

    Why yes, I am cracking myself up! lol

    Hugs,

    Stacy

    P.S. Are they all up for Rick Springfield, or will you be ditching us?!?!??!?!?!?
  • 2bhealed
    2bhealed Member Posts: 2,064 Member

    Hello, Emily

    I sense that you are upset with me, and I'm not entirely sure why.

    Sometimes life is grand, sometimes not so grand. As far as choosing company, I must say that I don't purposely surround myself with "upbeat" people, instead, my friends are intelligent, humorous, compassionate individuals--sometimes positive, sometimes indifferent, sometimes negative, depending upon the circumstances. As I stated earlier, I don't have a problem with Kris Carr. I thought she was extremely charming, and I admired how courageous she was. However, I was somewhat skeptical of her alternative approach (skeptical, not cynical--there's a difference) in respect to colorectal cancer.

    I'm pleased that you never had a problem with either essiac tea, or colonics, but some studies have shown that some people do.

    "Long term anthranoid laxative [e.g. rhein and emodin found in essiac] use is correlated with increased risk of colon cancer." (Van Gorkom)

    Link here: http://www.bccancer.bc.ca/PPI/UnconventionalTherapies/EssiacFlor*Essence.htm

    "Colonic irrigation must be carefully administered to prevent potentially serious adverse effects. Excessive treatments may lead to absorption of too much water leading to electrolyte imbalances, nausea, vomiting, heart failure/fluid in the lungs, abnormal heart rhythms, or coma. Infections have been reported with the use of colonic irrigation, possibly due to contaminated equipment or as a result of clearing out normal colon bacteria allowing infectious bacteria to overgrow. There is a risk of bowel perforation (breakage of the bowel wall), which is a serious complication that can lead to septic shock and death.
    People with diverticulitis, ulcerative colitis, Crohn's disease, severe or internal hemorrhoids, rectal/colon tumors, or recovering from bowel surgery should avoid colon irrigation, unless specifically directed by a doctor. Frequent treatments should be avoided in people with heart disease or kidney disease. Be sure that colonic equipment is sterile, and that the practitioner is a well-qualified healthcare provider before accepting treatment. Colonic irrigation should not be used as the sole treatment for serious conditions instead of more proven therapies, and should not delay the time before a qualified healthcare provider is consulted for potentially serious symptoms or illnesses."

    Link here: http://www.netwellness.org/question.cfm/36988.htm

    In answer to your question: yes, chemo is damaging--I can certainly attest to that, it's the nature of the beast. However, I'm happy that I opted for chemo, just as I'm happy to have decided to pursue a healthy lifestyle (believe it or not Emily, I juice regularily...something I did even before my cancer diagnosis). And you're absolutely right--there are no magic bullets. Personally, I dodge the bullets by referring to documented research, as opposed to rhetoric, or anecdotal evidence. Each of us has our own path to knowledge, and as you like to share your knowledge, I too like to share the things that I have learned.

    Best,
    Monique

    hi Monique,

    I wasn't upset withy you at all. Not sure where you got that idea.

    Thank you for the research links. I appreciate it when I can have documentation to help me make my health decisions that are not from places like quack watch or some other silliness.

    Sorry that you thought I was referring to you when I was comparing upbeat vs cynical--that was not about you. That was about me. Skeptical is right on. I tend to be skeptical too. And that led me to the alternatives. That also underscores my comment about isn't life grand with all of us pursuing different paths of success? It's what makes it so interesting to me.

    anyway, no harm meant. Just was sharing....

    peace, emily
  • spongebob
    spongebob Member Posts: 2,565 Member

    Dang, Sponger, a whole family reunion!

    So let me guess...

    Katie.......The Contraceptive Sponge (honeymooners!)
    Your Mother-in-law...The kitchen floor mop sponge
    Your mom....The Mr. Clean Eraser Sponge
    Your dad....Car Wash Sponge
    Your step mom...Swiffer Multi-purpose Cleaning Sponge

    So I guess the only question is...when are you and Katie cranking out a little "Squeegee"?

    Why yes, I am cracking myself up! lol

    Hugs,

    Stacy

    P.S. Are they all up for Rick Springfield, or will you be ditching us?!?!??!?!?!?

    Doctor Drake Killdare? Or whatever his character was on General Hospital...

    When is it? As for cranking out a squeegie... ain't gonna happen, even if we could we robably wouldn't considering the sad state of our conbined genetics (almost a 90+% chance junior would have HNPCC)!

    What night is Jesse's Girl singing?
  • StacyGleaso
    StacyGleaso Member Posts: 1,233 Member
    spongebob said:

    Doctor Drake Killdare? Or whatever his character was on General Hospital...

    When is it? As for cranking out a squeegie... ain't gonna happen, even if we could we robably wouldn't considering the sad state of our conbined genetics (almost a 90+% chance junior would have HNPCC)!

    What night is Jesse's Girl singing?

    Concert is Friday night @ 8. Hottest 58 yr old you'll ever meet! (well, maybe not to YOU, but hot in the opinion of majority of females!) lol
  • 2bhealed
    2bhealed Member Posts: 2,064 Member

    Dang, Sponger, a whole family reunion!

    So let me guess...

    Katie.......The Contraceptive Sponge (honeymooners!)
    Your Mother-in-law...The kitchen floor mop sponge
    Your mom....The Mr. Clean Eraser Sponge
    Your dad....Car Wash Sponge
    Your step mom...Swiffer Multi-purpose Cleaning Sponge

    So I guess the only question is...when are you and Katie cranking out a little "Squeegee"?

    Why yes, I am cracking myself up! lol

    Hugs,

    Stacy

    P.S. Are they all up for Rick Springfield, or will you be ditching us?!?!??!?!?!?

    oh gosh stacy you had me laughing big time!!!

    Thanks! we needed that.

    peace, emily