The Cure

nanuk
nanuk Member Posts: 1,358 Member
Now that I have your attention: In this year of electing a president, all cancer survivors need to find the candidate who supports Cancer research-ie; stem cells, which could very well bring the cure to all cancer.

The politics of cancer can kill you..of over 10,000 grants from the National Cancer Institute, only 500 even mention metastisis..

There are over 10 million of us out there; those kind of numbers can make the difference between business as usual, or re-starting the war on cancer.
Vote for yourself and the 200,000 newly diagnosed
victims of this monster yearly..

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  • donaldo
    donaldo Member Posts: 36
    This sounds good as long as you only look at the broad picture and ignore the details. If you've actually been paying attention to the issue, none of the politicians have supported a complete ban on stem cell research. In fact I just donated a bunch for research a few months ago. And only a very few politicians support a total ban on stem cell research on cells from aborted fetuses. The aim of the politicians that are in favor of a ban is only at banning research on stem cells collected using methods that politicians on both sides of the debate consider immoral. The problem is that the judges appointed by the political party that supports the use of these methods for collecting stem cells for research the most, won't allow the law makers to ban just certain methods of collecting the cells. This forces a nearly total ban on the use of aborted fetus stem cell research, in order to block the methods that both sides considered immoral.

    The scientist have found that the best stem cells for this research are collected from the brain ten months after conception. Since the human gestation period is only nine months, and the brains can't legally be sucked out of living babies a month after birth. The researchers rely on the definition of when life starts as created by those same judges. That definition states that as long as any portion of the baby remains in the mother, the baby is not yet alive. Therefore the researchers have used drugs to delay the birth of the babies a month. Then they turn the baby and deliver them most of the way feet first, face down. As you might have quessed, babies don't fit through the cervix very well at ten months. This isn't a problem for the researchers since they don't intend to allow the babies to completly leave the mother yet, and gain the title of being living human beings. They may have to crunch the babies shoulders a bit, but all they need is the base of the skull to be exposed. The pain this causes the babies is irrelavent since they intend to kill them anyway. They then insert a tube through the base of the skull and suction the brains out for the stem cells, thus deflating the head so the now dead baby can be delivered. Since this not only happens long after the baby has a heart beat and brain activity, but also a month after it should have been born and awarded the status of a living human being, most of us tend to consider it murder.

    Although I would love for a cure to be found for my cancer, I would rather die from it then have healthy children intentionally murdered to find the cure. Members of the congress, senate, and white house have agreed.
  • spongebob
    spongebob Member Posts: 2,565 Member
    donaldo said:

    This sounds good as long as you only look at the broad picture and ignore the details. If you've actually been paying attention to the issue, none of the politicians have supported a complete ban on stem cell research. In fact I just donated a bunch for research a few months ago. And only a very few politicians support a total ban on stem cell research on cells from aborted fetuses. The aim of the politicians that are in favor of a ban is only at banning research on stem cells collected using methods that politicians on both sides of the debate consider immoral. The problem is that the judges appointed by the political party that supports the use of these methods for collecting stem cells for research the most, won't allow the law makers to ban just certain methods of collecting the cells. This forces a nearly total ban on the use of aborted fetus stem cell research, in order to block the methods that both sides considered immoral.

    The scientist have found that the best stem cells for this research are collected from the brain ten months after conception. Since the human gestation period is only nine months, and the brains can't legally be sucked out of living babies a month after birth. The researchers rely on the definition of when life starts as created by those same judges. That definition states that as long as any portion of the baby remains in the mother, the baby is not yet alive. Therefore the researchers have used drugs to delay the birth of the babies a month. Then they turn the baby and deliver them most of the way feet first, face down. As you might have quessed, babies don't fit through the cervix very well at ten months. This isn't a problem for the researchers since they don't intend to allow the babies to completly leave the mother yet, and gain the title of being living human beings. They may have to crunch the babies shoulders a bit, but all they need is the base of the skull to be exposed. The pain this causes the babies is irrelavent since they intend to kill them anyway. They then insert a tube through the base of the skull and suction the brains out for the stem cells, thus deflating the head so the now dead baby can be delivered. Since this not only happens long after the baby has a heart beat and brain activity, but also a month after it should have been born and awarded the status of a living human being, most of us tend to consider it murder.

    Although I would love for a cure to be found for my cancer, I would rather die from it then have healthy children intentionally murdered to find the cure. Members of the congress, senate, and white house have agreed.

    So, Bud -

    I see you are spreading your political grafiti on all the boards of CSN, eh? You're such an anarchist! A dissident! To the gulag with you!

    Seriously, thanks for your insightful comments.

    Donaldo - What you describe sounds like a Wes Craven movie plot. I certainly hope what you describe is not being done in MY country - or anywhere. I agree with you, I would rather die from this stuff than see an innocent be subjected to that.
  • donaldo
    donaldo Member Posts: 36
    spongebob said:

    So, Bud -

    I see you are spreading your political grafiti on all the boards of CSN, eh? You're such an anarchist! A dissident! To the gulag with you!

    Seriously, thanks for your insightful comments.

    Donaldo - What you describe sounds like a Wes Craven movie plot. I certainly hope what you describe is not being done in MY country - or anywhere. I agree with you, I would rather die from this stuff than see an innocent be subjected to that.

    Not only is it happenening, but you've probably heard it mentioned numerous times as partial birth abortion. The media, medical world, and politicians have used the term so often, yet no one seems to actually comprehend what it means, or don't want to know.
  • donaldo said:

    Not only is it happenening, but you've probably heard it mentioned numerous times as partial birth abortion. The media, medical world, and politicians have used the term so often, yet no one seems to actually comprehend what it means, or don't want to know.

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