Tired of hearing about Vitamin D yet?

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  • myAZmountain
    myAZmountain Member Posts: 417 Member
    edited February 2021 #2
    Interesting isn't it

    The populations most likely to have Vitamin D defiency--nursing home residents, those sedentary, overweight diabetic, African American. A simple supplement could have saved lives. A cheap drug could also save lives.....but think about how much money Big Pharma would lose..https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7505114/

  • feckcancer
    feckcancer Member Posts: 189 Member
    edited February 2021 #3
    interestingly low vitamin D

    interestingly low vitamin D is now being linked to prostate cancer . A member of my family has just been diagnosed with it and is being treated with hormone treatment then high doses of vitamin D. they will only do radiation if the hormones/vitamin D combo doesn't keep it at bay . 

    quite a bit of info on the internet about this .

  • Annabelle41415
    Annabelle41415 Member Posts: 6,742 Member
    Vitamin D

    Vitamin D is very beneficial in a lot of ways.  I've been taking it since my diagnosis.  We live in a state where clouds are on most day so even being outside doesn't give any of us the amount that we need. 

    Kim

    Kim

  • abrub
    abrub Member Posts: 2,174 Member
    edited February 2021 #5
    Could that be why my case of Covid was so mild?

    I've been taking 10,000iu of D3 for years now (under a dr's supervision.)  My daughter and husband were both quite sick from Covid.  My case was mild.

    Alice

  • feckcancer
    feckcancer Member Posts: 189 Member
    abrub said:

    Could that be why my case of Covid was so mild?

    I've been taking 10,000iu of D3 for years now (under a dr's supervision.)  My daughter and husband were both quite sick from Covid.  My case was mild.

    Alice

    Probably. Vitamin D has been

    Probably. Vitamin D has been recomended to help fight off covid since the start of the pandemic. Lots of people i know, including myself, have been taking it from the beginning

  • abrub
    abrub Member Posts: 2,174 Member

    Probably. Vitamin D has been

    Probably. Vitamin D has been recomended to help fight off covid since the start of the pandemic. Lots of people i know, including myself, have been taking it from the beginning

    And my reaction to Vaccine 1 was mild

    While husband was quite ill from the Covid vaccine 1 (as expected, having had Covid.)

  • tanstaafl
    tanstaafl Member Posts: 1,313 Member
    where to get more tired...

    https://vitamindwiki.com/ has many references

  • myAZmountain
    myAZmountain Member Posts: 417 Member
    Ivermectin

    Study showing this commonly used anti-parasitic drug may be effective on cancer cells?  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7505114/

  • worriedson714
    worriedson714 Member Posts: 333 Member
    edited March 2021 #10
    Old news I know

    I know about vitamin d and covid but could anyone explain of it affects for cancer patients ? Does it help stop cancer spread ? Or does it kill cancer cells ? or is it all about prevention dad's finally taking cimetidine wondering if this could help keep his cancer from getting worse to . 

  • SandiaBuddy
    SandiaBuddy Member Posts: 1,381 Member
    edited March 2021 #11

    Ivermectin

    Study showing this commonly used anti-parasitic drug may be effective on cancer cells?  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7505114/

    Ivermectin

    My recollection is that there are some old threads on this--I think that is the same chemical as a heartworm medication for dogs.  My memory is foggy, but I think at least one or more CSN members explored it.  Maybe they can fill us in if they are still on the forum.  I did a quick search for old threads and was unable to find anything.  It might have been a back-channel discussion.

  • SandiaBuddy
    SandiaBuddy Member Posts: 1,381 Member

    Old news I know

    I know about vitamin d and covid but could anyone explain of it affects for cancer patients ? Does it help stop cancer spread ? Or does it kill cancer cells ? or is it all about prevention dad's finally taking cimetidine wondering if this could help keep his cancer from getting worse to . 

    How?

    To the best of my knowledge, there is no agreed upon explanation for why higher levels of vitamin d are potentially helpful.  But, it is more than simply preventative (as with cimetidine), as it seems from my research that a high vitamin d level is one of the best contraindicators for a recurrence in cancer.

  • myAZmountain
    myAZmountain Member Posts: 417 Member
    edited March 2021 #13

    Ivermectin

    My recollection is that there are some old threads on this--I think that is the same chemical as a heartworm medication for dogs.  My memory is foggy, but I think at least one or more CSN members explored it.  Maybe they can fill us in if they are still on the forum.  I did a quick search for old threads and was unable to find anything.  It might have been a back-channel discussion.

    Ivermectin

    I think you are right, and it is used to treat heartworm in Doggos. Seems like it treats just about everything lol. India has been distributing Ivermectin for COVID, with success, its cheap and been around forever. It will be interesting to see if there is a reduction in Cancer rates/mortality in India in the near future. 

  • SnapDragon2
    SnapDragon2 Member Posts: 714 Member
    edited March 2021 #14

    Ivermectin

    My recollection is that there are some old threads on this--I think that is the same chemical as a heartworm medication for dogs.  My memory is foggy, but I think at least one or more CSN members explored it.  Maybe they can fill us in if they are still on the forum.  I did a quick search for old threads and was unable to find anything.  It might have been a back-channel discussion.

    I don't know about the rest

    I don't know about the rest of the US but in my state ivermectin for dogs is script now.  But you can go to local feed store and get the same thing except it says for horses.

  • feckcancer
    feckcancer Member Posts: 189 Member
    edited April 2021 #15
    a cautionary tale

    i have just had some blood tests and been told i have , for the first time ever, high calcium levels. I have since found out that this can be caused by taking to much vitamin D . i have stopped taking Vitamin d supplements (x1 tablet a day) . i assumed if i had to much i would just pee or sweat it out so i continued to take it in summer. turned out not to be a good idea. 

  • myAZmountain
    myAZmountain Member Posts: 417 Member
    edited April 2021 #16

    a cautionary tale

    i have just had some blood tests and been told i have , for the first time ever, high calcium levels. I have since found out that this can be caused by taking to much vitamin D . i have stopped taking Vitamin d supplements (x1 tablet a day) . i assumed if i had to much i would just pee or sweat it out so i continued to take it in summer. turned out not to be a good idea. 

    ADEK

    Those are the fat soluble vitamins--ADEK --they are not flushed out through kidneys daily so one can develop high levels if overconsumed. Hope your levels return to normal soon!

  • mojogirl67
    mojogirl67 Member Posts: 306
    edited April 2021 #17
    Dog dewormer

    Hey guys..I'll was about to post and saw this thread...I hope you all are on the way to a glorious spring! I think Joe Tippens started the dewormer craze. I studed his story and every study and detail/study I could find.about it........What everybody fails to discuss is that man ate NOTHING for an extended amout of amout..He went from 200lbs to 115lbs....surviving off strictly IV fluids for 8 weeks...NOBODY EVER discusses this!!Every human body is different and I think his cells were cleared and "jump started" if you will...I think you HAVE KNOW your body and what it will respond to.. While I think it will get rid of pararsites, I do not believe it will change the game on cancer

     

     

     

     

     

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  • NewHere
    NewHere Member Posts: 1,427 Member
    Joe Tippens - Fenbendazole - Ivermectin

    Joe Tippens was down to 115 by before he started using this protocal (Fenbendazole).  myAZ pointed out there is another anti-parasitics  being looked at and  there seems to be potential in some anti-parasitics.  It is interesting how Fenbendazole was seen to potentially help - they used it to prevent worms in lab rats then had issues getting cancer to grow.

    Fenbendazole has been studied and continued to be studied - and there was a recent study opened on going through the case logs.  Right now it is anecdotal and not real data.  In cancer there are remissions that are not explainable.  It happens. Who knows what caused Joe's remission.  Maybe it was spontaneous for whatever reason.  He does not say to forgo other treatments.  So this seems a low risk/high reward type thing.  Risks include affecting kidneys/liver, but the dosing has to be very high.  Way past what Tippens used. But even things like vitamins, as MZ mentioned and feck experienced, can cause issues.  

    Anyway, some information below.  Would be interesting to see if anything further ever comes from this.   I have read more about studies, how difficult trials are to start, etc.  I think there may be things out there already which can help, but it is going to be awhile before everything can be studied.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3580766/ 

    2013

    These studies provided no evidence that fenbendazole would have value in cancer therapy, but suggested that this general class of compounds merits further investigation.

     

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-30158-6

    2018 

    Fenbendazole acts as a moderate microtubule destabilizing agent and causes cancer cell death by modulating multiple cellular pathways

     

    https://www.longevitymedical.com/blog/dewormer-cancer

    2019

    So, is a drug the cancer cure?  Not likely.  Fenbendazole and other benzimidazole drugs certainly have some proven anti-cancer action.  This action is best described as inhibiting the progression of cancer and even killing some difficult-to-treat cancer types including melanoma, lymphoma, lung cancer, prostate cancer, and glioblastoma.    

  • SnapDragon2
    SnapDragon2 Member Posts: 714 Member
    NewHere said:

    Joe Tippens - Fenbendazole - Ivermectin

    Joe Tippens was down to 115 by before he started using this protocal (Fenbendazole).  myAZ pointed out there is another anti-parasitics  being looked at and  there seems to be potential in some anti-parasitics.  It is interesting how Fenbendazole was seen to potentially help - they used it to prevent worms in lab rats then had issues getting cancer to grow.

    Fenbendazole has been studied and continued to be studied - and there was a recent study opened on going through the case logs.  Right now it is anecdotal and not real data.  In cancer there are remissions that are not explainable.  It happens. Who knows what caused Joe's remission.  Maybe it was spontaneous for whatever reason.  He does not say to forgo other treatments.  So this seems a low risk/high reward type thing.  Risks include affecting kidneys/liver, but the dosing has to be very high.  Way past what Tippens used. But even things like vitamins, as MZ mentioned and feck experienced, can cause issues.  

    Anyway, some information below.  Would be interesting to see if anything further ever comes from this.   I have read more about studies, how difficult trials are to start, etc.  I think there may be things out there already which can help, but it is going to be awhile before everything can be studied.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3580766/ 

    2013

    These studies provided no evidence that fenbendazole would have value in cancer therapy, but suggested that this general class of compounds merits further investigation.

     

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-30158-6

    2018 

    Fenbendazole acts as a moderate microtubule destabilizing agent and causes cancer cell death by modulating multiple cellular pathways

     

    https://www.longevitymedical.com/blog/dewormer-cancer

    2019

    So, is a drug the cancer cure?  Not likely.  Fenbendazole and other benzimidazole drugs certainly have some proven anti-cancer action.  This action is best described as inhibiting the progression of cancer and even killing some difficult-to-treat cancer types including melanoma, lymphoma, lung cancer, prostate cancer, and glioblastoma.    

    I agree on both fenbendazole

    I agree on both fenbendazole and ivermectin.  Trying to get ivermectin (for humans) is very hard for some reason (FDA NIH).  Some dr's have been arrested and slapped on the hand for prescribing it for covid, smh.

  • NewHere
    NewHere Member Posts: 1,427 Member
    edited April 2021 #20

    Mebendazole was given as an

      You need an out of the box onc to work with, one that isn't concerned about eating his lunch all by himself at the ASCO meetings :)

    You Win The Internet Today SnapDragon

    "You need an out of the box onc to work with, one that isn't concerned about eating his lunch all by himself at the ASCO meetings :)"

    That line is great.  LOL.

  • SnapDragon2
    SnapDragon2 Member Posts: 714 Member
    NewHere said:

    You Win The Internet Today SnapDragon

    "You need an out of the box onc to work with, one that isn't concerned about eating his lunch all by himself at the ASCO meetings :)"

    That line is great.  LOL.

    Not everybody gets my sense

    Not everybody gets my sense of humor, so thanks !