Peritoneal Carcinoma Questions to ask doctors?

Hi Everyone,

 

I've read Loretta's information and it was so educational and helpful, so thank you to Loretta!  My mother who is 68 went into the hospital on Friday bc she had fluid in her belly, she had bloating and pain when eating, the typical Peritoneal symptoms I keep reading about.  She had a full hysterectomy in 2009 for ovarian cancer, so it seems its now rearing its ugly head in 2018.  They tested the fluid which we don't have the full results back yet, and they did a CT scan of her abdomen and chest.  Her lungs were clear, but they are saying that they see legions on her abdomen. They are suspecting it is Peritoneal Carcinoma. We are set to have a biopsy on Monday and then will wait for the results.  We are using the gynocology oncologist that did her ovarian cancer and hysterectomy.  I plan on sending all of her files to Sloan Kettering for a 2nd opinion as soon as we have a first opinion.  My Question is...

What should I be asking the doctors?

What should I be expecting the doctors to do?

What should I be asking the doctors to do?

I have read about the HIPEC treatment, is this done during the same surgery we would want the "tumor debulking" done?

Is the HIPEC treatment the most aggressive approach?

Does anyone know of any clinical trials being done?

What is Immune Therapy? (a friend told me to look into it?)

Is there an immunity building diet that anyone has followed to help them during this fight?

I feel like the doctors have been super bleak when talking to me, and I am trying to put my faith in god, lots of prayers, I'm not ready to lose my mother! I'm only 40 and my children are 2 and 7.  They need their grandma! 

 

Lori

 

 

 

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  • loristory77
    loristory77 Member Posts: 6
    Immune Therapy?

    I've been doing some immune therapy research.  Does anyone know how to read this? What does market withdrawal mean? and what does discontinued mean? Can anyone tell me if they were a part of an immune therapy clinical trial? Does anyone have experience with this drug Catumaxomab?

     http://adisinsight.springer.com/drugs/800019712

     

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    • Orphan Drug StatusYes - Gastric cancer; Ovarian cancer
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    • 25 Sep 2017Discontinued - Phase-II for Malignant ascites (Recurrent) in USA (Intraperitoneal), because not listed on Neovii Biotech's pipeline of September 2017



     

     

  • LorettaMarshall
    LorettaMarshall Member Posts: 662 Member
    edited February 2018 #3
    U R wise 2B asking ? re possible recurrence~I'll try 2B a help

    Hello Lori ~

    Just walked into the room to shut down my computer, and I find you here.  Lord willing, I will answer you in more detail tomorrow.  But for now, I will tell you that from what you say, it could well be that your mother has had a recurrence from the Ovarian Cancer that has spread to the peritoneal cavity.  Naturally, we would both hope that it is not the case, but as a realist, I cannot rule “in or out” possibilities until I’ve been completely tested.  In my case, when I had my hysterectomy at age 36, I only had my uterus removed.  I didn’t have my ovaries or fallopian tubes removed.  And I always have to say once more, “Ladies, if you’re going to have a hysterectomy, don’t mess around with leaving in the ovaries and fallopian tubes.” The fallopian tubes seem to be a villain in Ovarian cancer. 

    And as for your mother having a complete hysterectomy, there are cells that can “sluff off” (my words) from the ovaries, and can lie dormant and later become cancerous, even though the actual ovaries have previously been removed.  I do have references to substantiate this finding, but for tonight, I am too tired to go into more detail.

    I will tell you that lots of clinical trials are going on for Peritoneal and Ovarian cancer, and there is a site for that as well.  If this is ovarian cancer metastasized to the peritoneum, it will be Stage IV.  There are stipulations for patients to enter a clinical trial.  It can depend on whether or not they have received certain kinds of treatments. 

    As for Immune therapy for Peritoneal Carcinomatosis, there is none that has recommended to me by my oncologist.  There again there are some other cancers that are responding well to Immunotherapy. 

    As for the HIPEC treatment, yes it is done at the end of the Cytoreductive surgery, and those that have had it do live longer than those who do not have it.  Now I will tell you that if your mother is “healthy” otherwise, with no other medical problems, she should be able to “survive” the surgery—brutal though it is.  My surgeon, Dr. David Bartlett, at UPMC, told me that I might, or might not, receive the HIPEC treatment.  When I awoke, he had not administered the HIPEC treatment for me, although the University of Pittsburgh is one of the leading places for the HIPEC treatment.  The advantage of HIPEC is that it is confined to the peritoneal cavity and does not go through the bloodstream and all over the body. 

    As for your doctors being bleak.  If they suspect that it is Ovarian cancer that has metastasized, then I can understand their hesitancy to say much until all the tests are done.  And also you are definitely doing the right thing to have a SECOND opinion.  And as for testing, your mother should be having a PET/CT scan.  It is better than a CT scan alone.  When I first went to my local ER, the hospital performed a CT and from that they diagnosed me as having Peritoneal Carcinomatosis.  The UPMC second opinion gave me a PET/CT and exploratory surgery, and that’s when the cancer in the ovaries showed up.

    And while I am sometimes too blunt for some people, I will tell you that the Lord has allowed me to live twice as long as I should have.  I’m entering my 6th year of survival—difficult yes—so while I don’t want to give you a false hope, I can tell you that your mother could possibly live several years even IF this is a recurrence.  Now I know you are being proactive and that is good.  So to say exactly what the diagnosis is, minus the actual determined diagnosis, we really don’t know what the treatments should be. 

    After my first and second opinions, my treatment was with a chemo combo of Carboplatin/Paclitaxel.  There were so many tumors in my abdominal cavity that UPMC said I should have chemo treatments first.  I didn’t have any radiation, just chemo the first time around.  The chemo did reduce the number of tumors enough for me to qualify for the Cytoreductive Surgery (CRS).

    The “Peritoneal” link is not as heavily read as is the Ovarian cancer link.  And it seems there it is harder to find good informative articles about PC as there are on other types of cancers.  But I must say one thing here, males can get Peritoneal Carcinomatosis too.  Cancers that originate in other organs and then migrate to the Peritoneal cancer are not limited to just we women.  Often colon cancer can find its way to the Peritoneal Cavity. 

    Lastly, believe me there is never a time, as a mother or a grandmother that we want to part with any of our own children or our grandchildren.  You’re too young to give up your mother, and the children definitely need their grandmother.  My husband and I have raised 4 grandchildren from the time they were very young.  One still lives with us.  I told him just the other day, “You know that as long as you live here you’re gonna’ have to put up with your granddaddy and me telling you what you should do, and what you should not do—don’t you?”  He smiled and said “YES.”   Believe it or not, he hasn’t given us any trouble, and not until you become a grandmother will you be able to understand the “eternal and unique and unexplainable bond of love” that grandparents share with their grandchildren.  I must tell you that we feel like they are “our very own children.” 

    The longer I live, the more I appreciate my mother.   Even now, though she went to be with the Lord in 2013, at age 99, I still ask myself, “If Mama were still alive, wonder what she would think about this or that?  I wish she were still around because she would have some good advice.  I valued the advice my mother had to offer, because I knew she had “experienced life” far longer than I had.  I still thank God for the godly mother He gave to me. 

    May the Lord give wisdom to the doctors to be certain of your mother’s diagnosis and know how best to treat it.  And may He give you the ability to cast your care upon Him because He loves us all!

    Love & prayers for you, your mom, your children 

    Loretta

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    P.S.  One grandson is here to visit us from Michigan this weekend, so I hope I can get back with you tomorrow with a few more helps, but for now I just couldn’t go to bed without telling you that I have read your letter and I understand your concerns completely.

     

  • loristory77
    loristory77 Member Posts: 6
    thank you...

    Wow Loretta, 99!  How lucky are you to have her all of those years?! After my mother had her hysterectomy she had 2 more surgeries.  First she had a gall bladder attack in 2010 and she had it removed.  Then she had a hernia and had mesh put in to close that up.  I just want this weekend to end so that I can get some answers.  It seems no one wants to do much testing on the weekends.  Would the PT/CT scan give more information than the tissue biopsy that is happening tomorrow?  Is there a benefit in doing both tests? I was under the impression that the tissue biopsy would give us all the answers we need to come up with a plan.

    When the HIPEC treatment is adminiistered is it typically one treatment? After the HIPEC is there more chemotherapy treatments?  What is the recovery of the HIPEC like?  

    Thanks again Loretta!

    Lori H. 

     

     

  • LorettaMarshall
    LorettaMarshall Member Posts: 662 Member

    thank you...

    Wow Loretta, 99!  How lucky are you to have her all of those years?! After my mother had her hysterectomy she had 2 more surgeries.  First she had a gall bladder attack in 2010 and she had it removed.  Then she had a hernia and had mesh put in to close that up.  I just want this weekend to end so that I can get some answers.  It seems no one wants to do much testing on the weekends.  Would the PT/CT scan give more information than the tissue biopsy that is happening tomorrow?  Is there a benefit in doing both tests? I was under the impression that the tissue biopsy would give us all the answers we need to come up with a plan.

    When the HIPEC treatment is adminiistered is it typically one treatment? After the HIPEC is there more chemotherapy treatments?  What is the recovery of the HIPEC like?  

    Thanks again Loretta!

    Lori H. 

     

     

    Lori~Here R references that will answer many of your questions

     

     

    Hello again Lori:

     

    It’s been a long day and we had a family get-together that lasted late but never too long when family can get together.  However, I see you have asked other questions. 

    You ask: “Is there a benefit in doing both tests? I was under the impression that the tissue biopsy would give us all the answers we need to come up with a plan.  Would the PT/CT scan give more information than the tissue biopsy that is happening tomorrow?”

    Yes, the biopsy will confirm whether cancer is present or not.  But PET/CT scans are vital as well to assess the whole scope of cancer location.  There are many parts to accurately diagnosing a patient.    

    You ask:  “When the HIPEC treatment is administered is it typically one treatment?  Now we must remember that the diagnosis has not been completely established yet, but HIPEC is a great advantage to those patients whom the surgeons feel will benefit by it.  And yes, the treatment is part of the Cytoreductive Surgery procedure.  But it is not specifically just for Peritoneal Cancer patients.  I have known Esophageal Cancer patients who have been able to have the HIPEC treatment.  The process will be explained by Dr. David Bartlett, my surgeon, in the videos from UPMC.  The info for the family house is listed here, although you said you plan to go to Sloan Kettering for a SECOND opinion.  Another lady here planned to go to UPMC, and so just for info for any others who may be needing CRS, that might want to consult UPMC, I’m leaving in the housing info.  Family members can stay along with the patient.  It is much cheaper than paying those expensive hotel bills.    

     

    You ask:  “ After the HIPEC is there more chemotherapy treatments?  What is the recovery of the HIPEC like? ” 

    I’m not able to give you a definitive answer as to whether or not there are more chemo treatments once a person has had HIPEC.  I suppose that would depend on whether the cancer metastasizes to some other organ in the body.  And I can’t tell you what the recovery is like when a person has had the HIPEC treatment.  I know what it’s like to recover from the Cytoreductive Surgery.  As for me, I had one chemo session prior to the CRS, and am now in the process of having my 4th chemo session.  I’m having complications even now and I don’t intend to continue more chemo sessions after this.  But as for recovery from the HIPEC, it isn’t as invasive as “normal routine chemo regimens” because it only is administered to the abdominal cavity and is not circulated throughout the whole body.  That is a great advantage to HIPEC because it only treats the cancerous area in the abdomen, and doesn’t penetrate the entire body!  So to me, the recovery from the actual surgery will be what the patient will be concerned with.  Stats have proven that those who receive the HIPEC treatment have longer survival times. 

    I hope that you have written down your questions and will ask the doctors who are going to be administering the tests for your mom. 

    But as for now, this will serve as a mini-tutorial on HIPEC mainly.  But recovery time can only be determined after a diagnosis has been confirmed, and a total plan of treatment is known.  As to questions in your first letter, I simply have no more time now to go into them.  Immunotherapy is good for some people, and not for others.  It is very new and there are multiple clinical trials going on that utilize that procedure.  However, clinical trials are specific in this way.  You won’t know which clinical trial might be available until your mother’s workup is complete.  And at that point, there are always specific qualifications.  Patients desiring to enter one would have to meet certain qualifications as set out in the Clinical trial objective.  Trials go through 3 phases.  The object is to find a better way to treat a specific cancer than are currently approved by the FDA.  So they have an end point.  If the clinical trial treatment proves to not exceed current FDA protocols, then it will not be considered superior to what is already available  to patients.  That is my understanding.  Thus the name “TRIAL”.   

    So I will certainly have to go for now.

    Love & prayers

    Loretta

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    P.S.  Make these references a part of your research info.  The more you know, the more you will understand what the doctors are talking about.  And oh, just one more thing.  Did I give you the link to the audible pronunciation link so that you can know how to pronounce all those big words which are brand new to us, but “old” to the doctor’s normal lingo.  So without number it, here it is:  I’ve just keyed in “Peritoneal” and this is what comes up.  So you will want to make use of this link:

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    1.      http://www.familyhouse.org/

    Family House - 412.647.7777

    Administrative Office5001 Baum Blvd Suite 545Pittsburgh, PA - 15213 United States

    housing@familyhouse.org

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    2.      http://www.upmccancercenter.com/cancer-care/surgical-oncology/koch-regional-cancer-therapy-center/doctors-staff

    4.      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeDDYt_5-Gw

    Cancer Treatment: Heated Intraperitoneal Chemotherapy (HIPEC)

     Nucleus Medical Media – Feb. 6, 2014 - Hyperthermic intraperitoneal chemotherapy, or HIPEC, is a treatment option for patients with advanced cancers that have spread to the abdominal cavity or peritoneum.  First, the doctor performs an operation to remove all visible tumors from the abdominal cavity. Then, the HIPEC is administered, which is a heated chemotherapy treatment aimed at killing any remaining cancer cells that cannot be seen.  (3:50 minutes) animated video

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    5.       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot3YAxpOLR0

    HIPEC Shows Promise for Treatment of Abdominal Cancers

     Published on Apr 5, 2013 - David Bartlett, MD, vice chairman for surgical oncology and gastrointestinal services at UPMC, discusses HIPEC as an approach that may improve the long term survival of patients diagnosed with abdominal cancers when used in conjunction with other cancer therapies. (3.56 minutes)

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    6.      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHK23AWoG0Q&t=116s

    Dr. David Bartlett discusses the HIPEC program at UPMC (6:29 Minutes)

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    7.      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdNtah1mpg4

    Published on Sep 17, 2012 - UPMC physician's assistant discusses HIPEC pre-operative workup, orders and consent forms (3:00 minutes)

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    8.      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lqnl-3WP7Y

    HIPEC Procedure - Hyperthermic Intraperitoneal Chemotherapy

    Published on Sep 14, 2015 - A novel procedure called hyperthermic intraperitoneal chemotherapy (HIPEC) combines surgery, heat and chemotherapy, creating a powerful treatment that can dramatically improve the quality of life, and sometimes even extend it, for patients with these types of cancer. (4:45 minutes)

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    9.      http://www.upmccancercenter.com/cancer-care/surgical-oncology/koch-regional-cancer-therapy-center/treatments/hipec?&gclid=COKrsOvtyNMCFV6BswodqugDQg

    Hyperthermic Intraperitoneal Chemoperfusion (HIPEC) Treatment

    Many tumors too advanced for surgical removal remain confined to a single organ or region of the body. Hyperthermic intraperitoneal chemoperfusion (HIPEC) is a surgical technique that we use to treat these types of tumors.

    What Can I Expect During Hyperthermic Intraperitoneal Chemoperfusion?

    In HIPEC, our surgeons may first debulk, or partially remove, the tumor prior to treating.

      • Afterwards, the surgeon makes two small incisions and inserts tubes:
        • One to pump the heated chemotherapy solution into your body.
        • One to circulate the fluid back to the heating equipment.
      • Once the treatment begins, the temperature in the chest cavity rises to between 105 and 107.6 F (40.6 and 42 C).
      • The chemotherapy solution circulates for several hours to kill the cancer cells.
      • The pump is turned off to allow the treated region to cool to normal temperature.
    • Then the surgeon removes the tubes and temperature probes, closes the incisions, and sends you to recovery…”
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    10.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqJiyMEMamk

    HIPEC Patient Education Video Series - Introduction

     HIPEC Treatment - Published on Sep 17, 2012 - Dr. David Bartlett discusses the HIPEC program at UPMC (2:00 minute video intro)

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    11.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRfU-oOBNGU

    Specialty Care Centers at UPMC Cancer Centers

    Uploaded on May 17, 2011- Dr. David Bartlett explains how UPMC Cancer Centers streamlines cancer care. (2:55 minutes)

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    12.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ4rdhhboVs&t=185s

    HIPEC Patient Education Video Series - Patient Selection

    Published on Sep 17, 2012 - Dr. Herbert Zeh discusses HIPEC Patient Selection at UPMC – (4:43 Minutes)

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    13.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiAu-LHQHoY&t=672s

    Dr. David Bartlett HIPEC Webinar - HIPEC Treatment - Uploaded on Jan 27, 2012 – (24:58 minutes)

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    14.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSeqsc-2WFM

    HIPEC Patient Education Video Series - Cytoreductive Surgery

    Published on Sep 17, 2012 – Dr. James Pingpank discusses the operative technique for debulking and cytoreductive surgery at UPMC (10:06 Minutes)

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    15.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCABswECFYg&t=250s

    Published on Sep 17, 2012 - Dr. Steven Ahrendt (my doctor who monitored my recovery from Cytoreductive Surgery) discusses post-operative issues and follow up care – (18:15 minutes)

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    16.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATJ-2bLz14c&t=235s

    HIPEC Patient Education Video Series – Anesthesia

    Published on Sep 17, 2012 - Dr. Larry Maher discusses the role of anesthesia in the HIPEC procedure at UPMC (11:24 minutes)

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    17.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHNoeMxqnro

    Published on Sep 17, 2012 - A UPMC nurse practitioner discusses Perioperative care (4:24 minutes)

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    18.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI2GYjxM8_o

    HIPEC Patient Education Video Series - Operating Room Nursing & Perfusion

    Published on Sep 17, 2012 - A UPMC clinical specialist discusses the operating room nursing and perfusion aspects of HIPEC (18.09 minutes)

    19.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6DpWGEKQ3g

    Uploaded on May 17, 2011- Dr. David Bartlett discusses treatment options for cancer that has advanced beyond surgical treatment.

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    20.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiAu-LHQHoY

    This is a 24 – minute video by Dr. David Bartlett explaining which types of cancer benefit from HIPEC. 

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    21.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHK23AWoG0Q

    Dr. David Bartlett discusses the HIPEC program at UPMC-A 6 minute video by Dr. Bartlett explaining HIPEC.

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    22.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l65xOD7nPbc

    Published on Jan 22, 2014-Hyperthermic (or Heated) Intraoperative Peritoneal Chemotherapy (HIPEC) is used to treat cancers that have spread to the lining of the abdominal cavity, such as those of the appendix, colon, stomach, and ovaries.

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    23.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeDDYt_5-Gw

    Published on Feb 6, 2014-Hyperthermic intraperitoneal chemotherapy, or HIPEC, is a treatment option for patients with advanced cancers that have spread to the abdominal cavity or peritoneum.  First, the doctor performs an operation to remove all visible tumors from the abdominal cavity. Then, the HIPEC is administered, which is a heated chemotherapy treatment aimed at killing any remaining cancer cells that cannot be seen.

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    24.  http://www.hipec.com/

    4:38 minute video explaining HIPEC treatment for Peritoneal Cancer

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    25.  http://www.hipec.com/peritoneal-cancer/treatment-options/

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    26.  http://www.hipec.com/hipec/

    Treatment Centers around the globe.

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    27.  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3076138/

    Intraperitoneal therapy for peritoneal cancer

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      28.  http://www.cancercenter.com/video/treatments-technology/chemo-intraperitoneal/

    33 minute video with good explanations of Peritoneal Carcinomatosis

    Tumor markers CEA – AC19-9 – CA-125

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    29.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju9vSyKYCS0

    Minimally Invasive GI Surgery, Including HIPEC

    UC San Diego Health

    Published on Nov 7, 2014

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    Dr. Kaitlyn Kelly, a surgical oncologist at UC San Diego Moores Cancer Center, specializes in applying minimally invasive surgical techniques to gastrointestinal surgery that has traditionally required large incisions. These approaches, which include robotically assisted surgery or laparoscopy, often mean less pain and a shorter recovery time for patients. In this video, Dr. Kelly discusses how UC San Diego is exploring minimally invasive techniques for esophagectomy, gastrectomy, and cytoreduction with hyperthermic intraperitoneal chemotherapy (HIPEC). To learn more about treatment of gastrointestinal cancers, visit https://health.ucsd.edu/specialties/c...

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    30.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn6ogIc-TZk


    Mayo Clinic

    Published on Aug 3, 2015

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    Sanjay Bagaria MD FACS, surgical oncologist and assistant professor of surgery at Mayo Clinic's Florida campus, discusses HIPEC surgery for peritoneal carcinomatosis secondary to gastrointestinal cancers. HIPEC surgery involves removal of all visible cancer in the abdomen and then treatment of the residual microscopic disease with heated chemotherapy. After cancer is resected, heated chemotherapy is infused and circulated in the abdomen for 90 minutes under a single operation. Dr. Bagaria also offers minimally invasive (laparoscopic) HIPEC surgery to select patients. For further questions, please contact Dr. Bagaria's office at: 904-953-2523 (Jacksonville, FL campus)

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    31.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSeqsc-2WFM


    HIPECTreatment

    Published on Sep 17, 2012

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    Dr. James Pingpank discusses the operative technique for debulking and cytoreductive surgery at UPMC

    32.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiAu-LHQHoY

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    33.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqJiyMEMamk

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    34.   https://www.nebraskamed.com/cancer/peritoneal

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    35.  http://www.mayoclinic.org/medical-professionals/clinical-updates/cancer/cytoreductive-surgery-hipec-offers-effective-treatment-for-patients-with-peritoneal-carcinomatosis

    Cytoreductive surgery and HIPEC offers effective treatment for selected patients with peritoneal carcinomatosis

    “…In cytoreductive surgery and hyperthermic intraperitoneal chemotherapy (HIPEC), visible cancerous tumors are first removed from the abdominal cavity surgically. The cavity is then bathed with hot chemotherapy — heated to 42 degrees Celsius — to kill any microscopic cancer cells that remain. Hyperthermia augments the cytotoxicity of chemotherapy, and intraperitoneal installation allows for delivery of much higher doses locally than are possible systemically, while minimizing toxicity…”

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    36.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lqnl-3WP7Y – video of HIPEC

    HIPEC Procedure - Hyperthermic Intraperitoneal Chemotherapy

    Published on Sep 14, 2015

    “A novel procedure called hyperthermic intraperitoneal chemotherapy (HIPEC) combines surgery, heat and chemotherapy, creating a powerful treatment that can dramatically improve the quality of life, and sometimes even extend it, for patients with these types of cancer.”

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    37.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Izw3Nj9Y_Dk

    Cancer Treatment: Heated Intraperitoneal Chemotherapy (HIPEC)

    _______End of references most are related to University of Pittsburgh Medical Center because that is where I had my Cytoreductive Surgery on July 1, 2013.  Many references are videos.  This is not all of my files, but it will be over and above what you need to know about HIPEC treatment._______

     

     

  • NOHAIRDONTCARE61
    NOHAIRDONTCARE61 Member Posts: 1
    edited March 2018 #6

    thank you...

    Wow Loretta, 99!  How lucky are you to have her all of those years?! After my mother had her hysterectomy she had 2 more surgeries.  First she had a gall bladder attack in 2010 and she had it removed.  Then she had a hernia and had mesh put in to close that up.  I just want this weekend to end so that I can get some answers.  It seems no one wants to do much testing on the weekends.  Would the PT/CT scan give more information than the tissue biopsy that is happening tomorrow?  Is there a benefit in doing both tests? I was under the impression that the tissue biopsy would give us all the answers we need to come up with a plan.

    When the HIPEC treatment is adminiistered is it typically one treatment? After the HIPEC is there more chemotherapy treatments?  What is the recovery of the HIPEC like?  

    Thanks again Loretta!

    Lori H. 

     

     

    Lori H.,

    Hi Lori,

    I am so sorry to hear about your mother. I understand the need to ask others for suggestions on questions to ask the doctor. But I strongly encourage you to direct your questions to your mothers doctor and other healthcare team and not public a forum as there are many variables involved and although everyone here has good intentions, nobody is as informed of your mothers specific issues as her healthcare team. What was right for me may not be appropriate for your mother. I was diagnosed with PPC Stage 3C in August of 2017. I had many well meaning people giving me advice. Your mom is scared to death and needs to be 100% confident in her health care team, shame on anyone that knowingly contradicts or undermines her doctors (I had people stunned I was going to have surgery followed by chemo without giving apple cider vinegar first, or some treatment in Mexico, and OMG how could I even consider taking pills!). I had debulking surgery preformed removing my omentom, ovaries and Fallopian tubes (partial hysterectomy preformed years ago). Unfortnately, all of my tumors were inoperable. I went through 6 rounds of chemo, which by the grace of God was pretty easy. I am currently in remission. This cancer is sneaky and the symptoms mimic other issues and is difficult to catch early. Love your mom, be there for her. I wish your mom, you and your family the best of luck.

  • LLB33Happy
    LLB33Happy Member Posts: 5
    Primary Peritoneal Cancer

    Hi Lori,  sorry that your mom is going through this,  I have been in treatment for 3 years now,  and  managed to alsoi beat Primary Brreast Cancer at the same time.  I would Echo the comments from NOHAIRDONTCARE61,  Talk to your doctors.  you want to be sure you and your mother are comfortable with them,and that they will answer all your questions.  I have been blessed with an amazing team of encouraging, positive doctors.  If you aren't happy with them,  then yes, get another opinion and talk to other doctors.  Every one truly is different,  there is so much information out on the internet that it can be overwhelming.  Even though I am in my 3rd round of Chemotherapy,  I am doing well,  and while there is fatigue,  I am so thankful to be alive, having even more time with my family.  I was 59 when diagnosed,  will turn 62 next month.  you can send me a message if you want some tips to help with chemo and side effects, or just encouragment.  Wishing your mom well.

  • susan1arnold
    susan1arnold Member Posts: 1
    DIGESTIVE ISSUES

    After 1st round of chemo (Carbo/Taxel) I can't get the digestive issues right.  Go from consitpated to a lot of very soft bm's.  The Senokot S I'm afraid is too strong. Seems I can't leave the house due to not knowing if I have gas or need to go to the bathroom.  Sometimes feel like I need to go (cramping), but nothing happens.  Does this ever go away?  I also don't know if my abdomen is hurting from these issues or is it the cancer?  Will be having 3 rounds of chemo, followed possibly by surgery.  Had hysterectomy in Oct 2017. After debulking (?) surgery (scraping any cells that did not die, possible removal of spleen and omentum removal)  if it happens after 1st 3 rounds of chemo, they will follow with 3 more rounds of chemo.  At MD ANDERSON in Houston and feel I am in the best of hands.  I know it is Stage 3 but not sure of the primary source yet.  The path report from total vaginal hysterectomy (done in a small town) came back showing no cancer . This lab was in San Antonio.  MD ANDERSON  feels like they might have missed something.  We are tracking down the slides and path report to confirm.  My CA-125 was over 6000.  Any help with the digestive issues will be very much appreciated.  Innocent I do take Miralax every morning and 1/2 Senokot every evening.  I have skipped some nights as it seems to be so strong.  The cramping pain and horribly hard, large abdomen is what I have trouble with.  I have 2nd chemo June 6.  Hair just started falling out so did a "chop off the pony tail" yesterday.  Many thanks for any information.  

  • Newbeeie2017
    Newbeeie2017 Member Posts: 1
    edited July 2018 #9
    Peritoneal cancer

    Hi Lori:

    How is your Mom doing?  I was diagnosed August 2017 with peritoneal cancer and I am in a clinical trail at Kettering Cancer Care in Kettering Oh.

    I had fluid around my lungs and around my stomach but I never had any pain.  I had 3 chemo treatments, exploratory surgery and then 3 more chemo treatments.  Now I am on a maintenance treatment either getting the clincial trail drug or a plesobo.

     

    Have other woman contacted you stating they have peritoneal cancer and how are they doing.

     

    Pam

  • Haconnor
    Haconnor Member Posts: 3
    edited July 2018 #10
    We are in similar situations.

    We are in similar situations. I am an only child about to turn 40 and my mom was just diagnosed with PPC. I have three little children and my mother of course wants to be around for them. I will be following your post for info as well. I feel lost. 

  • Nbrown10
    Nbrown10 Member Posts: 1

    Lori H.,

    Hi Lori,

    I am so sorry to hear about your mother. I understand the need to ask others for suggestions on questions to ask the doctor. But I strongly encourage you to direct your questions to your mothers doctor and other healthcare team and not public a forum as there are many variables involved and although everyone here has good intentions, nobody is as informed of your mothers specific issues as her healthcare team. What was right for me may not be appropriate for your mother. I was diagnosed with PPC Stage 3C in August of 2017. I had many well meaning people giving me advice. Your mom is scared to death and needs to be 100% confident in her health care team, shame on anyone that knowingly contradicts or undermines her doctors (I had people stunned I was going to have surgery followed by chemo without giving apple cider vinegar first, or some treatment in Mexico, and OMG how could I even consider taking pills!). I had debulking surgery preformed removing my omentom, ovaries and Fallopian tubes (partial hysterectomy preformed years ago). Unfortnately, all of my tumors were inoperable. I went through 6 rounds of chemo, which by the grace of God was pretty easy. I am currently in remission. This cancer is sneaky and the symptoms mimic other issues and is difficult to catch early. Love your mom, be there for her. I wish your mom, you and your family the best of luck.

    PPC Remission/recurrence

    My diagnosis is the same as yours and I was diagnosed in August of 2017 as well.  I completed my chemo after debulking the first of April.  I just wondered if you are still in remission.  I am now experiencing new symptoms of bloating etc. and am afraid my cancer is now active once again.

     

  • madamson100
    madamson100 Member Posts: 1
    edited March 2019 #12
    Is the PPC coming back?

    I was diagnosed with PPC back after gallbladder surgery in June of 2018. I went through 4 chemos, then was left in a nursing home for Hospice and palliative care. My doctor thought I had less than 3 months to live. About a week after being there, I asked to be taken off the pain meds. When my head cleared up, I started to try to walk a bit with a walker. I was able to get around the room. I asked to be taken off of Hospice and go for Physical Therapy and Occupational Therapy. In Nov. of 2018, I was able to come home. Now it's March of 2019 and about 3 weeks ago, my stomach started giving me a terrible time after vomiting once. Every time I eat, I have gas, bloating, cramps, etc. I'm on a probiotic and Gas X as told by my doctor. I notified my Oncologist's office and they said when I throw up 5 days in a row, then I'll know it's back, but everything I read says bloating, gas, etc. are signs of the disease. I'm so worried a recurrance is imminent. I wish there were some comforting words for me out there to tell me to stop worrying, it's not a big deal, but my "gut" instinct tells me the cancer is back. Oh, did I say I had a PET scan Jan. 4th and it said I was clear? My Oncologist said the cancer could be hiding and it will be back. I'm so tired of the gloom and doom with of all of this. Anyone have any experience or ideas for me? Also, I have no CA125 tests as far as I know. The only test I've seen is the PET scan online.