Cologuard Positive

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  • Trubrit
    Trubrit Member Posts: 5,796 Member
    veritas49 said:

    Cologuard

    I thought I would share an experience I just had today and hope it might help a reader. I'm almost 68 years old. I have been remiss with colonoscopies having only one when I was 52  I was told no polyps and to return in five years  I foolishly did not  I recently saw the ad on tv for Cologuard and asked my GP about it  She wrote a script for it  I asked how long it took and she said two weeks and "pray it's not positive " I sent it in and started getting anxious almost immediately  Two week later she called and in a very serious tone said " I'm afraid it's positive " I freaked and told my wife who is a loving caring person  I fortunately know a surgeon through a club I belong to and see him from time to time on the links  I have heard great things about him  I called, explained what happened  how nervous I was  He kindly opened his office the next day early to meet with my wife and I. I had the GP send the Cologuard report to him. He calmed me down and mentioned false positives and said he needs to do a colonoscopy. You know these things can often take weeks to schedule but as a friend he did it two days later   - one day for prep  - and then the test today I could not sleep last night and was very depressed 

    By 11 AM today it was complete.  When I woke up he told me I had one polyp , not to worry and all else looked clean. So it will go out for biopsy but he was very confident I would be fine   While I was recovering he met my wife in the waiting room and showed her pictures of my clean colon and she gave him huge hug.   

    For what it is worth I thought I would share.   If I had to do all over again I would not have waited so long for the colonoscopy and I would skip the cologuard. He wants me to go once a year now and I'm fine with that. Good luck to all of you dealing with the same or similar issues. 

    Cheer,

    Veritasguy 

     

    Thank you for the share

    It is really helpful to hear about the false positives so maybe others with positive results can take heart from your story.  Also, learn that its not a good idea to skip the five or ten year colonoscopies. 

    May you never have to visit this forum again. 

    TRU

  • dtaber04
    dtaber04 Member Posts: 1
    edited November 2017 #23
    COLOGUARD SUCKS

    I had a cologurd + test result! What a bunch of crap....It had me worried for 3 weeks and my colonoscopy was negative....why does Medicare even pay for this test? Some one is getting a kickback!!! The reliability of this test suck pond water and is a WASTE of $$$ for all of us....Boycott this test........................

  • GadgetOne
    GadgetOne Member Posts: 5
    Cologuard

    I was told 4 days ago my cologuard was positive. I have had no symptoms of anything. Nothing. Three months ago i was worried about my pancreous because my father died from pancreatic cancer, so my doc did a big blood test. She tested the folling. Cbc with differential, CMP (chem14), Lipid panel and ABD pain periumbilic. All tests came back normal. My stool has been normal. That is until she told me about the positve, i have hardly slept or pooped because i'm so stressed out. I have an appt tomorrow to meet the Doc that's going to do the colonoscopy. But i just don't understand. One of those blood test is for abnormal red blood cell count and it was NORMAL. So now i'm thinking either the blood test or the cologuard is wrong. My wife is really upset at the doc for the way she told me. Anyone know anything about the blood test i took?? 

  • Trubrit
    Trubrit Member Posts: 5,796 Member
    GadgetOne said:

    Cologuard

    I was told 4 days ago my cologuard was positive. I have had no symptoms of anything. Nothing. Three months ago i was worried about my pancreous because my father died from pancreatic cancer, so my doc did a big blood test. She tested the folling. Cbc with differential, CMP (chem14), Lipid panel and ABD pain periumbilic. All tests came back normal. My stool has been normal. That is until she told me about the positve, i have hardly slept or pooped because i'm so stressed out. I have an appt tomorrow to meet the Doc that's going to do the colonoscopy. But i just don't understand. One of those blood test is for abnormal red blood cell count and it was NORMAL. So now i'm thinking either the blood test or the cologuard is wrong. My wife is really upset at the doc for the way she told me. Anyone know anything about the blood test i took?? 

    Tests

    The only blood test I know that indicates CRC is the CEA test, and that is not always reliable.  I know the CBC and CMP are done for general health, especially liver, but maybe there is something in there also, that I have not heard about. 

    How old are you?  It will be wise to go ahead with the colonoscopy (espeically if you are over 50).  

    We have had several folks pop here to the forum with positive Cologuard and followed up with colonoscopies with were clear, and we are hoping that you get to join their ranks. 

    I am sorry for the stress this is causing you. I could tell you not to worry, but that would be ridiculous. I can tell you to TRY not to worry. Hows that! 

    If you didn't want to go with the colonoscopy, you could try another Doctor for a second opinion. 

    Good luck!  

    I hope you pop back to tell us all is well and we can wish you a long and healthy life.  In the meantime, we are here to answer any questions or just give you support. 

    Tru

  • GadgetOne
    GadgetOne Member Posts: 5
    Trubrit said:

    Tests

    The only blood test I know that indicates CRC is the CEA test, and that is not always reliable.  I know the CBC and CMP are done for general health, especially liver, but maybe there is something in there also, that I have not heard about. 

    How old are you?  It will be wise to go ahead with the colonoscopy (espeically if you are over 50).  

    We have had several folks pop here to the forum with positive Cologuard and followed up with colonoscopies with were clear, and we are hoping that you get to join their ranks. 

    I am sorry for the stress this is causing you. I could tell you not to worry, but that would be ridiculous. I can tell you to TRY not to worry. Hows that! 

    If you didn't want to go with the colonoscopy, you could try another Doctor for a second opinion. 

    Good luck!  

    I hope you pop back to tell us all is well and we can wish you a long and healthy life.  In the meantime, we are here to answer any questions or just give you support. 

    Tru

    Hi. I'm 59 yrs old.The

    Hi. I'm 59 yrs old.The waiting for the colonoscopy is what's getting to me and with everything going on. In a span of three days my stool went from light brown to dark brown to black today. From what i have read the most likely cause of that is a bleeding ulcer. But i drink a lot of tea and drank dandelion root tea the past couple of days. That may also be a cause of the dark stool, dandelion root tea helps clean out the liver. At least that's what i'm hoping. I'm so stressed out that i have no idea if i'm even contiplating all of this right.Thanks for the reply.

  • GadgetOne
    GadgetOne Member Posts: 5
    edited December 2017 #27
    GadgetOne said:

    Hi. I'm 59 yrs old.The

    Hi. I'm 59 yrs old.The waiting for the colonoscopy is what's getting to me and with everything going on. In a span of three days my stool went from light brown to dark brown to black today. From what i have read the most likely cause of that is a bleeding ulcer. But i drink a lot of tea and drank dandelion root tea the past couple of days. That may also be a cause of the dark stool, dandelion root tea helps clean out the liver. At least that's what i'm hoping. I'm so stressed out that i have no idea if i'm even contiplating all of this right.Thanks for the reply.

    Fish oil

    Okay, well if anyone has read my post they know what's going on. My latest revelation. Three months ago my doc told me to start taking fish oil for my cholesterol. Never had another thought about it, until now. One of the bad side effects of fish oil is bleeding in the stomach and black stool. So tomorrow i'm going in to find out if that's what is going on. If it is i'm going to be really mad that the doc didn't warn me about the side effects of fish oil. They also have me taking niacin for cholesterol and a uncommon side effect of niacin is black stool. So this should be interesting. I'll follow up when i know more.

  • Trubrit
    Trubrit Member Posts: 5,796 Member
    GadgetOne said:

    Fish oil

    Okay, well if anyone has read my post they know what's going on. My latest revelation. Three months ago my doc told me to start taking fish oil for my cholesterol. Never had another thought about it, until now. One of the bad side effects of fish oil is bleeding in the stomach and black stool. So tomorrow i'm going in to find out if that's what is going on. If it is i'm going to be really mad that the doc didn't warn me about the side effects of fish oil. They also have me taking niacin for cholesterol and a uncommon side effect of niacin is black stool. So this should be interesting. I'll follow up when i know more.

    This is interesting

    I did not know about this side effect either, and have just purchased some expensive Norwegian Cod Liver Oil. 

    I certainly hope you get to the bottom (no pun intended) of this, soon. Please keep us informed. 

    Tru

  • Annabelle41415
    Annabelle41415 Member Posts: 6,742 Member
    GadgetOne said:

    Fish oil

    Okay, well if anyone has read my post they know what's going on. My latest revelation. Three months ago my doc told me to start taking fish oil for my cholesterol. Never had another thought about it, until now. One of the bad side effects of fish oil is bleeding in the stomach and black stool. So tomorrow i'm going in to find out if that's what is going on. If it is i'm going to be really mad that the doc didn't warn me about the side effects of fish oil. They also have me taking niacin for cholesterol and a uncommon side effect of niacin is black stool. So this should be interesting. I'll follow up when i know more.

    Taking Fish Oil

    My husband has taken Fish Oil for cholesterol many years and didn't have any bleeding but I'm sure that can happen.  I know that Iron can also cause black stools, even I believe Pepto Bismol.  If you take that it can discolor your stools.

    Wishing you the best going forward.

    By the way, this is a really old post. If you need more responses on Fish Oil, that should be another heading and you might get some great responses.

    Kim

  • dpoz
    dpoz Member Posts: 2
    edited February 2018 #30
    veritas49 said:

    Cologuard

    I thought I would share an experience I just had today and hope it might help a reader. I'm almost 68 years old. I have been remiss with colonoscopies having only one when I was 52  I was told no polyps and to return in five years  I foolishly did not  I recently saw the ad on tv for Cologuard and asked my GP about it  She wrote a script for it  I asked how long it took and she said two weeks and "pray it's not positive " I sent it in and started getting anxious almost immediately  Two week later she called and in a very serious tone said " I'm afraid it's positive " I freaked and told my wife who is a loving caring person  I fortunately know a surgeon through a club I belong to and see him from time to time on the links  I have heard great things about him  I called, explained what happened  how nervous I was  He kindly opened his office the next day early to meet with my wife and I. I had the GP send the Cologuard report to him. He calmed me down and mentioned false positives and said he needs to do a colonoscopy. You know these things can often take weeks to schedule but as a friend he did it two days later   - one day for prep  - and then the test today I could not sleep last night and was very depressed 

    By 11 AM today it was complete.  When I woke up he told me I had one polyp , not to worry and all else looked clean. So it will go out for biopsy but he was very confident I would be fine   While I was recovering he met my wife in the waiting room and showed her pictures of my clean colon and she gave him huge hug.   

    For what it is worth I thought I would share.   If I had to do all over again I would not have waited so long for the colonoscopy and I would skip the cologuard. He wants me to go once a year now and I'm fine with that. Good luck to all of you dealing with the same or similar issues. 

    Cheer,

    Veritasguy 

     

    Thank you for posting that. 

    Thank you for posting that.  It helped relieve some of my anxiety.

  • Tucsonjj
    Tucsonjj Member Posts: 5
    edited May 2019 #31
    NewHere said:

    Get A Colonscopy (Most Likely)

    First, get your Cologuard report.  It is your report, and they should show it to you.  It may just say positive or negative, I do not know.  Get the kit and use it, no downside.  BUT ff you have any family history or over (or approaching) the age of 50, get the colonoscopy.  

    You can go for an MRI first if you like first (keeping in mind radiation etc.), but colonscopy is better.  Even if you do not have a family history or are younger, the colonscopy is still something to consider.  Having a possible false negative and not taking action as compared to having your mind put at ease (or catching something for sure) may be worth it.  Colonoscopy prep is not a ton of fun, but worth it.  If I could go back in time and have a colonscopy done a year or two earlier, I would.  It is pretty low risk.

    Lastly, you may want to find another doctor if you are arguing with them.  Their job is to guide and advise (sounds like it was heated with reluctance comment.)

    Cologuard...a SCAM?

    True, one would think that Cologuard WOULD show you the results of the test... guess what... they DON'T!!  I had a positive result on my Cologuard, called them, asked for the detailed results to be sent to me OR my Doctor... they refused... I asked why, since they of course would have the results at their fingertips, right?  Still refused, said it was "standard procedure".  I then asked... at least tell me which of the two tests came back positive, or both... again they refused... now... why on earth would they refuse such a simple request?  I asked them to explain in detail the DNA portion of the test... another refusal.  I found elsewhere that even if you have a polyp, which is most often harmless, it will cause a Pos Cologuard DNA result.

    One possibility is that the Cologuard is a Big Pharma/Big Physician/FDA SCAM, only to get as many people to do a BIG dollar colonoscopy as possible.  Colonoscopys are risky, period.  Check out Youtube  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woREV5D1DLQ watch all 3 parts.  Dr Bergman is also interesting on the subject.

    BTW:  I ordered a FIT test off Ebay for $20, shortly after the Cologuard Pos result... took it and it came back NEGATIVE.  I plan on taking the FIT again every 6 months because of the Cologuard, but IMO, Cologuard and the company Exact Sciences are unethical and very possibly corrupt.

  • Tucsonjj
    Tucsonjj Member Posts: 5

    Cologuard Test

    BL,

    I am a 2 year survivor of Stage 3 metastatic uterine cancer. 
    I take the Cologuard test each year because uterine cancer is related to colon cancer,
    and I had a 5cm metastatic tumor on my outer rectum.

    The Cologuard test is more accurate than the fecal blood test. It tests for a tumor
    marker called vimentin. Vimentin was found in my uterine tumor according to my
    pathology report and I was initially diagnosed with Stage 3 cancer.

    I would ask you doctor to find out if they found blood or vimentin in your specimen,
    since the report results just say positive or negative.

    If you look at the book they send with the test, it indicataes a positive result means that
    they detected abnornal DNA (vimentin) and/or blood that could be caused by precancer or
    cancer in the colon.

    This test is a good test to use to tell you if you need to get a colonoscopy.
    It would probably be a good idea to get one.  

    Perhaps you should repeat the Cologuard test while you are waiting
    for your colonoscopy appointment. Perhaps you also might test your blood
    for CA19-9 (used for colon, liver and pancreatic cancer). I get many blood tests as I
    would like a warning before I jump into more invasive testing.

    Best of luck.

    Takingcontrol58

     

     

    Perhaps I am more skeptical than you, sorry so late to the thread, hope people read all comments...  you said If you look at the book they send with the test, it indicates a positive result means that they detected abnornal DNA (vimentin) and/or blood that could be caused by precancer or cancer in the colon.

    IF this is true, why would the people at Exact Science/Cologuard refuse to tell you that?  They claim to look at several (maybe 13?) different "biomarkers"... so ??? and, if this is a true indicator of cancer, why 13% (they admit to this number, probably much higher) false positives?  You say "could be" caused... so... could also NOT be caused?

    Not trying to be difficult, I am just angry that Cologuard refuses to disclose complete and specitic test results... IF they have them, IF their tests are legit... no reason to withhold this essential info that we paid BIG bucks for... and I find this VERY suspicious!!

  • Tucsonjj
    Tucsonjj Member Posts: 5
    BL53931 said:

    My only issue now is I am

    My only issue now is I am very tired. They told me I would be from the anesthesia for 24 hours. It is now more than that and I feel worse than right afterward. Went shopping this afternoon and felt exhausted. Two days until Thanksgiving  and I don't know if I will be able to do much. I read someplace that it helps if you up sodium for a day or so to replentish what was lost in the prep. 

    This is no real issue compred to what others on here hve but I thought someone might have some tips. The nurse today said she thought it would resolve by tomorrow. 

    Side effects

    One of the real problems with the widespread recommendation to do a colonoscopy, is that most never inform you of the dangers... or of the side effects.  I find this to be despicable... and believe Cologuard is just another way to pump up the BIG profits of the medical community.

    Everyone should watch all three parts of this series:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woREV5D1DLQ

     

  • Tucsonjj
    Tucsonjj Member Posts: 5
    BL53931 said:

    Followup

    My doctor called yesterday. Turns out I misunderstood about the one polyp being partly removed, they were not able to extract any of it. I am being referred to a colorectal secialst and they will want to go in AGAIN and get that one out. My doctor did again say he does not believe it is precancerous, this would be just a precaution. This means I will need to go trough the whole pre-op again.   

    My thinkng is I should do this but not for awhile. Perhaps in a  couple of months, this is just too much to go through all over again so soon. Any thoughts? 

    Polyps

    Polyps are not dangerous in and of tehmselves... and BTW, bad news... even if they cut out the polyps, bringing in more risk to you via bleeding, infection, etc... the polyps will usually grow back before your next colonoscopy!