cancer using diatomaeous earth and apricot seeds

Hmmm

Not sure what to make of your post.  I'm not sure I'm wanting to drink something from the ground but if it is working for you than that's good. Wishing you the best.

Kim

Trubrit said:

NanaB

I remember NanaB tried the Diatamatious earth. Sadly, she is not here to share her expereince with it. 

Tru

Yes

Yes she was NED for some time and remember that she did do several things.  You have a good memory Tru, but remember she tried different approaches.  Miss her posts.

Kim

Singular anecdotes don't prove anything.

Medical science is much more than going through your cupboards, trying whatever treatments laymen have cooked up, or trying to simplify the complexities of the human body, and the incredible complications of something as diverse as cancer, and it's insidious, changing nature, by changing your PH factor. I appreciate that fear drives us to look for hope everywhere and anywhere, but taking the wrong thing at the wrong time, could hurt the battle we are fighting. Apricot seeds contain various amounts of arsenic, a natural poison. Cancer is not a parasite, it's part of your body with corrupted DNA, that manages to fool the body's defenses. I hear John23's well organized arguements in my head and I wish I could channel them better. Finally, I'm glad your doing well cpaul70, and that they're catching things early enough, but I even have issue with your avator; I feel with my heart, but I seen with my mind, through the invaluable tool of reason. Good luck to you................................................Dave

Diatomaceous Earth and Apricot Kernels.

I completely agree with you, Cpaul70. People have been using Diatomaceous earth for health purposes for years and claim it has very healing properties; such as drawing toxins out of the body. It's very similar to crushed sea-shells, and very alkaline. It makes sense it would strengthen the immune system. As long as you're using human grade D.E., there's no evidence it can harm you.

As far as the apricot kernels go...those won't hurt you, either., unless you're allergic to them, or have a reaction to them.  I've been taking them for years. Yes, they have trace amounts of cyanide in them, but you'd have to eat a bushel of them all at once to get cyanide poisoning from them. There's a lot of 'false facts' surrounding apricot kernels and their toxicity. Some will argue that this is the medical industry's way of keeping people from eating them because they do cure cancer, but I don't know if they do or don't. I've seen different studies done on them, one of which was on a tribe of indigenous peoples somewhere who eat nothing but apricots and the kernels and they had zero instances of cancer. I tend not to trust studies all that much because they can easily be manipulated to have any outcome the researcher wants, but this study didn't seem to have any shady agenda, so I sorta trust it. Please don't ask me to find the study...it was years ago and I have no idea where I found it. Maybe a google search will find it if you investigate it. Also research the effects of laetrile (the ingredient in apricot kernels believed to cure cancer). Just watch who funds the studies and follow the money to see if it's legit.

Through my research I've found there are many ways to kill cancer, and kill it better and more efficiently than chemo, so I never poo-poo anything. From what I've seen, taking any natural stances against cancer while continuing chemo is akin to standing in a cardboard box to protect against nuclear fallout. It seems that's why a lot of people who try alternatives don't survive. All I know for certain is that the raw food diet killed my cancer.

I'm stage IV since 2007 with four recurrences, and no chemo since 2008.

So happy you took your health into your own hands and got rid of your cancer. Congratulations!

 

Krista 

MyJourneywithCancer said:

I have to agree with darcher and Dave.

We need to be careful about generalizing our personal experiences in our interpretation about what works and what does not. While we are all free to believe in whatever we like, I see a clear conflict of logical ideas and lack of statistical significance in most of the "natural/alternative" cancer cures. These non-scientific or pseudo-scientific hypotheses simply have neither been tested rigorously and found to work, nor have any logical reason to work. I am not sure we need preaching about these hypotheses here. As an example, here is a rather recent study by researchers from the Yale Universality comparing alternative medicine to conventional cancer treatment : https://academic.oup.com/jnci/article/110/1/djx145/4064136/Use-of-Alternative-Medicine-for-Cancer-and-Its. As the figure in the paper showed, the overall survival of patients receiving alternative medicine is worse in all five types of cancers they studied.

Thanks for the paper.

Thanks for the paper.

darcher said:

I'm curious as to why a

I'm curious as to why a person would post something so off the wall.  With no basis in fact or actual science to back up the claims for what reason is it put out there?   When it comes to Alkaline, the body adjusts our PH level to a specific range.  No amount of seed eating or anything else is going to change that.  The fact is, if the liver fails and the PH goes way up, you're dead anyhow.  Here is a quick read on how it works.

http://www.interactive-biology.com/4081/handling-ph-how-your-body-regulates-acididity/

The vast majority don't

The vast majority don't understand science, chemistry, physics or biology.

Mikenh said:

The vast majority don't

The vast majority don't understand science, chemistry, physics or biology.

It's Complicated

My field of work is pharmaceutical research.  I work mainly with Harvard educated scientists & epidemiologists from our Boston office.  I understand and believe chemo & radiation can and do work to extend lives, but we need to accept that it's at a cost.  May be neuropathy, heart problems, teeth or vision issues, etc.  

I like the idea of getting many opinions, seeking out doctors and patients who have had success with all kinds of therapies.  I think diet is key as well.  There should be room for all.  Wish there was more cooperation among all types of physicians.  Many of these natural docs pick up the pieces and help those of us in Stage IV, gives me more hope than chemo & more surgeries will alone.

That being said, I am going to the most cutting edge natural docs in SE Michigan.  All out of pocket.  They both recommended surgery, and one is pro chemo.  I think there's room for all kinds of opinions and experiences to be shared.  

BRHMichigan said:

It's Complicated

My field of work is pharmaceutical research.  I work mainly with Harvard educated scientists & epidemiologists from our Boston office.  I understand and believe chemo & radiation can and do work to extend lives, but we need to accept that it's at a cost.  May be neuropathy, heart problems, teeth or vision issues, etc.  

I like the idea of getting many opinions, seeking out doctors and patients who have had success with all kinds of therapies.  I think diet is key as well.  There should be room for all.  Wish there was more cooperation among all types of physicians.  Many of these natural docs pick up the pieces and help those of us in Stage IV, gives me more hope than chemo & more surgeries will alone.

That being said, I am going to the most cutting edge natural docs in SE Michigan.  All out of pocket.  They both recommended surgery, and one is pro chemo.  I think there's room for all kinds of opinions and experiences to be shared.  

On Complications

John was a really strong proponent of TCM.  And researched things to an amazing extent (I am looking for someone for TCM right now to see if I can keep going.)  That being said, he was REALLY clear that first line treatment was getting the tumor out via surgery and also being on top of it with scans.  He was more for TCM in lieu of chemo.

I am also of the opinion reducing stress, good diet, exercise etc can only help so I am not again many things, just like you said.  

I do have some issues with some things that get a bit regurgitated from certain sites that seem to be less than based in science or actual data of any kind, or point to things that seem to have been debunked long ago.  Leeches and maggots are used again, so you never know what is out there.

I guess this ia a long winded way that I agree with you, but sometimes there seems to be so far off and coming from places that are suspect that I dismess them rather quickly.  Not that I am wrong in doing so though of course 

I love you Tru

You have outdone yourself with that image

beaumontdave said:

Great new little people there

Great new little people there Tru! On my first post, swap out arsenic for cyanide, I forget stuff. I'd like to blame it on 10yo chemo treatments, but it's probably just impending age issues

Dave, Do Not Give Up Chemo Excuse Ever

My wife will probably kill me before the cancer does based on chemo brain being my go to excuse for anything I do wrong