Ketogenic diet for cancer...

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  • Footstomper
    Footstomper Member Posts: 1,237 Member
    foxhd said:

    proper diets

    Of course there is always the exception to the rule. I tend to survive on pizza and beer diet. But never more than 7 days a week. I still contend that according to the Krebbs cycle, all food products are broken down into adp and atp for energy. Even Ben Franklin understood all things in moderation. Honestly, I don't want to change anything that I do since I've been a good responder to treatment. It's like the mediocre swimmer who never got into trouble until he learned to swim well. Then he drowned trying to swim the english channel.

    Pizza and Beer diet

    I'd also recommend this diet and supplement it with Cabernet Sauvignon and the ocassional single malt whisky.

    I used to know a leading scientist in the field of cancer research whose relative became famous. The relative was told he had terminal cancer (I know no more details) and started on his bucket list by travelling across the US. Talking to a driver who was giving him a ride, the driver scribbled down what was essentially a macrobiotic diet, and said "Try this , this'll sort you out. He tried it and his tumours retreated.

    I asked the oncologist if it was significant and he sad "No. We looked at it and couldnt reproduce the results." I guess it was just one of those things."

    All I know is that my, viral oncologist wife is feeding me vast quantities of mushrooms. They go great with the Cabernet!

  • cjw
    cjw Member Posts: 4
    edited March 2017 #23
    Keto vs. ???

    After 6+ years trying to fight BC naturally and wishing i had done at least the surgery I am pondering the keto plan. I remember doing the low/no carb diet for over 4-5 mos. and shortly there after feeling a,change in my left breast like that of cut glass moving up from my chest. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WAS THE KETO DIET AFFECT. I RECALL HAVING MULTIPLE ROUNDS OF MAMMOGRAM RADIATION . A cyst determined go be benign later became cancerous. The crazy thing is that to submit to conventional medicine NOW means submitting to lots of radiation. It is this kind of circular madness that keeps me away from the doctors' offices

  • Steve.Adam
    Steve.Adam Member Posts: 463 Member
    edited March 2017 #24
    Hi cjw

    Your post is buried at the end of an old thread. It may deserve a new thread all of its own.

    I have been eating low carb for just over two years and it has had great benefits on my health including putting my type 2 diabetes in remission. I don't measure ketones but I assume I am hovering near the edges of nutritional ketosis. I also fasted for 15 days late last year, just for the hell of it. I would certainly have been running on ketones then!

    I don't think that low carb, keto, or fasting are cancer cures, as such. There are only a few testimonials of such cures online, not hundreds or thousands. I think some are true but there are just too few of them to get excited about.

    The main benefit of healthy eating is probably in cancer prevention, but anything healthy must help your body fight off cancer.

    Processed and industrialised foods are basically toxic. Industrially produced 'vegetable' oils (canola, sunflower, safflower, soy, corn oil etc) are evil. Processed and restaurant food uses these oils. Sugar is the next most evil food additive. There are questions about other refined carbs too, especially wheat flour.

    They only way to avoid these toxic modern foods is to prepare your own meals from the freshest ingredients you can find. This is the healthiest way to eat regardless of which eating style you prefer (ie: keto etc.).

    There is a book called Radical Remissions by Kelly Turner. She collected and analysed verifiable cases of cancer 'cures' (radical remissions). She was looking for common elements in people's approach to their cancer. Everyone who had a remission had seriously modified their diet.

    Steve.

     

  • Steve.Adam
    Steve.Adam Member Posts: 463 Member
    edited March 2017 #25
    Also...

    I'm very sorry that you have this awful disease.

    Steve.

  • Steve.Adam
    Steve.Adam Member Posts: 463 Member
    Clarification

    The main benefit of healthy eating is obviously better health. In a sentence of mine above I was trying to say that a healthy diet is probably better for preventing cancer than for curing it.

    My intention is to more or less stick to the diet that has been so good for me in recent years, but I will keep reading and adapting and trying new things.

    Steve.