Diagnosed with colon tumor one month ago - what to expect next

Hi everyone,

I'm new to this list - never thought I would be joining it. I'm 51 and the mother of two active boys, aged 8 and 4.5. Just learning now how thankful I should be for having been healthy all my life.

One month ago, I went for a routine colonoscopy and was diagnosed with Stage IIIC sigmoid cancer. Two weeks later, I had successful laproscopic resection with an amazing surgeon and am now up and about again. The strange thing, feeling no pain, is that sometimes I forget that all of this has happened in the last month. As if it were a bad dream or something.

I begin 12 rounds of chemo - FOL-5 and oxaliplatin - in two weeks to kill off any cells that may have escaped. I don't know what is worse: doing the chemo or waiting to start it. From what I am reading on these threads, I think it may be a little of both. My doctors are very optimistic about my prognosis given my age and health, but I have learned quickly that cancer is a journey into the unknown. Trying to make the best of every moment with my husband and kids - and hoping that by May I'll be on the way to NED. My friends who are survivors are all great advocates of thinking positive.

I'd be grateful for any general advice I should keep in mind as I start this next stage of my journey. I have arranged my chemo schedule so that I can keep working during the treatment.

Thanks!

 

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  • NewHere
    NewHere Member Posts: 1,427 Member
    edited November 2016 #2
    Welcome

    Sorry you are here, but it is a great place.  

    First get a port if you do not have one, makes the chemo and blood draws easier.  I am guessing you probably will, seems most do, but just in case.  Also get the lidocaine cream for it to make the needle insertion a bit easier, though I have forgotten it from time-to-time and it was not too bad even without the cream.

    I was diagnosed stage IIIC, with spots elsewhere that were too small to tell for sure (one did in fact turn out to be a met in the lung which was taken out 6 weeks ago).  I am in generally good health otherwise and the docs are all saying that they will take care of whatever comes up.  

    I did 12 FOLFOX (the ox is the oxaliplatin) treatments over 6 months.  The oncologist wanted to get at least 8 treatments with the ox in there, and no more than 10, keeping an eye on the peripheral neuropathy.  Did the first without the OX to see how the other part of the cocktail would work (i.e., bad reaction).  I had to stop with the ox after 8 treatments (my 9th session) due to peripheral neuropathy starting to build and it was explianed it was more snowball rather than linear.  The chance of severe/permanent neuropathy was a bigger risk in the oncs opinion compared to the incremental benefit of further treatments.

    I had every reaction during treatment, but really not severe or long term.  For instance, two days of hiccups then no more.  A bit of stomach distress, then gone after a day or two.  I got lucky.  The two were "real" were cold sensitivty and neuropathy.  (Did lose hair and also my hair went gray quickly).  As to the cold, it was usually the week I was infused then gradually going down the second week.  But be prepared, gloves to go in the fridge, room temperature or warmer food and drink, etc.  I even had to sleep sometimes with a scarf and often wore socks and gloves to bed.  I usually walk around in sandals in the winter and my treatment was during the summer.  Then the peripheral neuropathy.  It has resolved for the most part in my hands (15 months after end of chemo) though the feet are still feeling it.  Does not affect my, I can run etc., just feels funny unless I have socks on.  I did not even get that nauseous during this all, a little bit of loss appetitte during week of infusion and pump, so leaned on ginger snaps.  But really did not even pop the pills for anti-nausea at all.  Never threw up once.

    I did get very tired about 7 treatments in.  Before that, would rest when I would come home from infusion, but would often even go out that evening.  After 7 treatments about a day or so after disconnect I would get tired.  I would get hooked up on Monday, disconnected Weds and by Friday started getting real tired and would sleep almost non-stop until late Sunday.  Something like 40 out of 48 hours.  

    My blood work was always good, so went to a ton of minor league baseball games.  Walked around the park for exercise and just being out and about was good physcially and mentally.  Sometimes a bit tired, but would take an hour or two nap before games if I was a bit more tired.  Trying to do anything that is normal, such as grabbing a cup of coffee at the diner for 15 minutes, would help.  And sometimes allowing myself just to "be a slug" and binge some tv or movies worked.  Kind of entitled to spoil yourself a bit.

    There are going to be times were you may feel a little down, but that is part of this.  It is normal.  Try not to let it get to you or too bogged down when it happens.  Find something fun to do and come here to vent as needed.  Or laugh.  Or discuss.  It has helped me through this.

    Again, sorry that you are here, but before you know it chemo will be in the rear view mirror.  I placed all my sessions on my calender then all of a sudden it was done.  (Also I moved a couple of sesssions a day or two in either direction if I was going away for a long weekend, etc.  So keep that in mind.  There is some flexibility in there.)

  • John23
    John23 Member Posts: 2,122 Member
    Second opinions

    Second opinions should be mandatory. And they should always be gained from a colorectal surgeon that is NOT of the same group or organization.

    You need to know the real statistics of "clean-up chemo". You can learn about anything medical by reading at the various Journals of Medicine.

    The Journal of American Medicine is a good start, and there are many Journals dedicated to the Oncologists that can be quite revealing.

    There are many ways to fight cancer, chemo and radiation are not the only way, nor is it the best. There is a 2% advantage of the so-called "clean-up chemo", but that advantage is usually set back by neurological problems (often permanent), and second, unrelated cancer caused by the toxic chemicals.

    A second opinion (and a third) can often enlighten you to the facts and possibilities.

    It took your cancer time to grow, so why rush into anything? Chemo was designed to knock down tumors, not seek and destroy individual cancer cells. It poisons all cells with the hopes that the patient's good cells will bounce back leaving cancer cells behind. Nice theory.

    Cancer can (and usually) recurs over time regardless of mode of therapy; there are no guarantees ever offered with any modality or therapy, so take time to think things through and get other qualified opinions before you begin this journey.

    Click on the various names here and read their biography and history....... And enter some data on your own profile page, it makes it easier for responders to know something about your condition without you having to repeatedly explain....

    My best hopes for you

    John

  • JanJan63
    JanJan63 Member Posts: 2,478 Member
    Welcoome and sorry you're

    Welcoome and sorry you're here. As John mentioned, I wasn't thrilled with the idea of the mop up chemo. I did some research and was going to turn it down but chose to do it when my oncologist said I should. I was scared that if I didn't and it spread or returned I'd be kicking myself. My situation is rare but the mop up chemo caused a blood clot in my lung that almost killed me so I wish I'd never done it. Howevere, now that I have probably mets in my lung if I hadn't done it I'd be upset with myself thinking that if I'd done the chemo afterwards I wouldn't be dealing with them now. I'd never have known that it would do what it did.

    My oncologist said the mop up chemo reduces the chance of recurrence by over 40% but if it isn't done within (I think it was) 60 days of the surgery the percentage drops to about 25%. I had mine at something like 90 days after surgery due to some complications I had. That was the main reason I was seriously considering not doing it at all.

    I'm not trying to sway your decision in any way, I'm just giving you my story which is an unusual one.

    Jan  

  • NewHere
    NewHere Member Posts: 1,427 Member
    Not Sure It Is 2%?

    here is a 2% advantage of the so-called "clean-up chemo", but that advantage is usually set back by neurological problems (often permanent), and second, unrelated cancer caused by the toxic chemicals.

    On the math, everything seems to indicate more from what I read and have been told. Nothing tremendously wonderful, but...

    For instance, if surgery alone has a 50% chance of recurrance and chemo knocks it down to a 40% chance of recurrance, that is a 20% reduction.  2% would be 48% chance of recurrance, no?  If the assumption it is  "can and usually" coming back, which for CRC seems to be something that happens, it is a question of looking at the results and percent over a set period of time

    Some of the things I was told add a percentage point here and there, such as daily aspirin.  And my ocnologist was strong in feeling that it is not worth pushing the ox part of the cocktail past a certain point due to the benefits being outweighed by the negatives.  

    It was estimated that in my condition (before the confirmation that the thing in my lung was a met the whole time), that with chemo the recurrance rate would be 25% - 30% as compared to 50-60% range.  And to be clear a 25% - 30% chance of reoccurance does not give me the warm fuzzies at all.  And I can see why a pass on chemo could be a decision for some people.   But it is more than a 2% advantage in the short term.  In my case the horse was out of the barn, but it did seem to slow growth of the one.  More scans will show if the others were also kept down (or not cancer.)  For me, at this time and being lucky with the chemo tolerance, if it bought me another year or two, no complaints.  (With the confirmation of the met that was there at the very beginning, sometimes I am feeling a bit more fatalistic :))

    Some things discussing the issue (including going to your general point) in terms of chemo and luck of the draw of stage.  Plus CRC stinks for all of this ;)   

    http://www.healio.com/hematology-oncology/gastrointestinal-cancer/news/print/hemonc-today/{8ef34e9e-07c7-42ca-906f-a44e07a166bb}/experts-weigh-in-on-adjuvant-chemotherapy-for-stage-ii-colon-cancer

    And interesting piece on the 2% issue

    http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2011/09/16/two-percent-gambit-chemotherapy/

    Another discussion on chemo use

    https://consumer.healthday.com/cancer-information-5/colon-cancer-news-96/new-test-could-pinpoint-colon-cancer-patients-who-need-chemo-study-707236.html

    And some other 

    http://news.cancerconnect.com/stage-iii-colon-cancer/

     

     

  • John23
    John23 Member Posts: 2,122 Member
    edited November 2016 #6
    Dot Com(s)

    You won't learn anything at a "dot com" (commercial site). You CAN learn a ton at the .org sites, and especially from the various Journals of Medicine dedicated to and by the Physicians in the industry.

    Beware of what you read on the web.

    Good Health Hopes!

    John

     

     

  • NewHere
    NewHere Member Posts: 1,427 Member
    edited November 2016 #7
    What .Org Should Have Been

    While the intent back in the day may have been for .org to be non-proift/non-commercial it is not the case.

    Beware of what you read on the web.

    LOL.  So very true.  But so difficult to say on the web, because, well it is on the web.   In fact I read on the web that chemo only has a 2% advantage ;) (I am now reminded of the scene from Animal House when they are contemplating their thumbs.  MIND BLOWN!!!. )

    I looked around and the one study referred to in my post above seems to be the only one that discusses the 2%.  Other than sites that seem kind of iffy trying to pitch alternative treatments, this https://www.nps.org.au/australian-prescriber/articles/the-emperor-s-new-clothes-can-chemotherapy-survive was the only one that went into the 2% article.  (google "The contribution of cytotoxic chemotherapy to 5-year survival in adult malignancy" and click on the results.  Lot's of snake oil looking places.)

    Found articles indicating benefits more than 2%, and now probably going to keep on looking.  If I miss Monday Night Football I am BLAMING YOU!!! :)

    http://ascopubs.org/doi/pdf/10.1200/jco.1989.7.10.1447

    http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.005549

    "Among stage III patients, receiving chemotherapy was associated with a significantly higher OS (5 year overall survival) (68%) compared to those who refused (OS50%) (HR: 2.05, 95%CI: 1.12–3.77, P = 0.02). The Chemo-refusal group had more female and elderly patients, significantly higher rate of severe complications, and lower body mass index (BMI). Follow-up phone questionnaire analysis showed the doctors’ uncertainty of chemotherapy benefit, economic difficulties, uncomfortable feeling, superstition of Traditional Chinese Medicine, concealing information and lack of social support were the main factors for elderly CRC patients to decline chemotherapy."

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/cncr.25954/abstract;jsessionid=DD0C1432F3D6C9259EDC9892F27BCF1B.f02t02?systemMessage=Wiley+Online+Library+will+be+unavailable+on+Saturday+26th+November+2016+from+07:00-11:00+GMT+/+02:00-06:00+EST+/+15:00-19:00+SGT+for+essential+maintenance.++Apologies+for+the+inconvenience.

    RESULTS:

    There were 1053 patients in the study; 648 (61%) initiated adjuvant chemotherapy within 16 weeks of surgery. There was no difference in overall survival or colon cancer-specific survival between those who received adjuvant chemotherapy from 8 to 12 weeks postsurgery compared with those who received it within 8 weeks. However, those who received chemotherapy 12 to 16 weeks after surgery and those who either received it >16 weeks after surgery or received no treatment had a 43% and 107% greater risk of dying, respectively, than those who received chemotherapy within 8 weeks of surgery (hazard ratio, 1.43 [95% confidence interval, 0.96-2.13] and hazard ratio, 2.07 [95% confidence interval, 1.56-2.76], respectively). Analyses were controlled for age, year, and region of residence at diagnosis; sex; neighborhood-level socioeconomic factors; and number of comorbidities.

     

     

     

  • NewHere
    NewHere Member Posts: 1,427 Member
    JanJan63 said:

    Welcoome and sorry you're

    Welcoome and sorry you're here. As John mentioned, I wasn't thrilled with the idea of the mop up chemo. I did some research and was going to turn it down but chose to do it when my oncologist said I should. I was scared that if I didn't and it spread or returned I'd be kicking myself. My situation is rare but the mop up chemo caused a blood clot in my lung that almost killed me so I wish I'd never done it. Howevere, now that I have probably mets in my lung if I hadn't done it I'd be upset with myself thinking that if I'd done the chemo afterwards I wouldn't be dealing with them now. I'd never have known that it would do what it did.

    My oncologist said the mop up chemo reduces the chance of recurrence by over 40% but if it isn't done within (I think it was) 60 days of the surgery the percentage drops to about 25%. I had mine at something like 90 days after surgery due to some complications I had. That was the main reason I was seriously considering not doing it at all.

    I'm not trying to sway your decision in any way, I'm just giving you my story which is an unusual one.

    Jan  

    One Of The Studies I Found

    In my third long winded post goes to the timing of the chemo.  And it is from Canada.  :)  

    It is not gun to head, need to decide now (for the OP) type decision so you have time to decide.  

  • beaumontdave
    beaumontdave Member Posts: 1,280 Member
    I think you've heard all the

    I think you've heard all the good advice, I was stage3b, mass on the sigmoid, with 2of17 nodes. The rest of my story's on my profile. Best of luck to you on your treatment......................................Dave

  • JanJan63
    JanJan63 Member Posts: 2,478 Member
    edited November 2016 #10
    NewHere said:

    What .Org Should Have Been

    While the intent back in the day may have been for .org to be non-proift/non-commercial it is not the case.

    Beware of what you read on the web.

    LOL.  So very true.  But so difficult to say on the web, because, well it is on the web.   In fact I read on the web that chemo only has a 2% advantage ;) (I am now reminded of the scene from Animal House when they are contemplating their thumbs.  MIND BLOWN!!!. )

    I looked around and the one study referred to in my post above seems to be the only one that discusses the 2%.  Other than sites that seem kind of iffy trying to pitch alternative treatments, this https://www.nps.org.au/australian-prescriber/articles/the-emperor-s-new-clothes-can-chemotherapy-survive was the only one that went into the 2% article.  (google "The contribution of cytotoxic chemotherapy to 5-year survival in adult malignancy" and click on the results.  Lot's of snake oil looking places.)

    Found articles indicating benefits more than 2%, and now probably going to keep on looking.  If I miss Monday Night Football I am BLAMING YOU!!! :)

    http://ascopubs.org/doi/pdf/10.1200/jco.1989.7.10.1447

    http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.005549

    "Among stage III patients, receiving chemotherapy was associated with a significantly higher OS (5 year overall survival) (68%) compared to those who refused (OS50%) (HR: 2.05, 95%CI: 1.12–3.77, P = 0.02). The Chemo-refusal group had more female and elderly patients, significantly higher rate of severe complications, and lower body mass index (BMI). Follow-up phone questionnaire analysis showed the doctors’ uncertainty of chemotherapy benefit, economic difficulties, uncomfortable feeling, superstition of Traditional Chinese Medicine, concealing information and lack of social support were the main factors for elderly CRC patients to decline chemotherapy."

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/cncr.25954/abstract;jsessionid=DD0C1432F3D6C9259EDC9892F27BCF1B.f02t02?systemMessage=Wiley+Online+Library+will+be+unavailable+on+Saturday+26th+November+2016+from+07:00-11:00+GMT+/+02:00-06:00+EST+/+15:00-19:00+SGT+for+essential+maintenance.++Apologies+for+the+inconvenience.

    RESULTS:

    There were 1053 patients in the study; 648 (61%) initiated adjuvant chemotherapy within 16 weeks of surgery. There was no difference in overall survival or colon cancer-specific survival between those who received adjuvant chemotherapy from 8 to 12 weeks postsurgery compared with those who received it within 8 weeks. However, those who received chemotherapy 12 to 16 weeks after surgery and those who either received it >16 weeks after surgery or received no treatment had a 43% and 107% greater risk of dying, respectively, than those who received chemotherapy within 8 weeks of surgery (hazard ratio, 1.43 [95% confidence interval, 0.96-2.13] and hazard ratio, 2.07 [95% confidence interval, 1.56-2.76], respectively). Analyses were controlled for age, year, and region of residence at diagnosis; sex; neighborhood-level socioeconomic factors; and number of comorbidities.

     

     

     

    Hang on. Your last paragraph.

    Hang on. Your last paragraph. "43% and 107% risk of dying"? Is that a typo?

  • kmygil
    kmygil Member Posts: 876 Member
    Practical Issues

    Or:  Things Your Doctor Never Told you

    Or:  Things You Learn from Chemo Nurses and Fellow Patients

    No matter what you choose to do, stay hydrated and on top of your nutrition.

    Walk a little every day.

    Listen to your body.

    Stay hydrated.  Optimize your nutrition.

    If you choose chemo and end up with Folfox4 or 5, bring gloves everywhere.  One of my best moments: hurling a pound of frozen ground meat across the supermarket after I picked it up without gloves.

    Get reliable helpers and don't be afraid to ask for help.

    Get antidepressants if you get depressed.  You can stop them when you're done being depressed.

    Get pissed off with your cancer and fight the thing.

    Stay on this forum.  The wonderful people here literally saved my sanity.

    Stay hydrated.  Optimize your nutrition.

    Did I mention to stay hydrated and to optimize your nutrition?

    Hugs, hugs, hugs.

  • NewHere
    NewHere Member Posts: 1,427 Member
    edited November 2016 #12
    JanJan63 said:

    Hang on. Your last paragraph.

    Hang on. Your last paragraph. "43% and 107% risk of dying"? Is that a typo?

    Don't Think So

    However, those who received chemotherapy 12 to 16 weeks after surgery and those who either received it >16 weeks after surgery or received no treatment had a 43% and 107% greater risk of dying

    Seemed to be correct.   Report link below, mentions that 107% in overview in the body..  Will check again in reading whole article.  But the risk of dying looks to be 43% higher is started between week 12-16 and 107% if > 16 weeks or non at all.   Would need to check breakdown in that bracket.  But overall it looks like starting chemo within 12 weeks helps the odds.

     

     

     For some reason the link is not working.  It may be because I originally linked through.  But if you google "However, those who received chemotherapy 12 to 16 weeks after surgery and those who either received it >16 weeks after surgery or received no treatment had a 43% and 107% greater risk of dying"  you should be able to find link.

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/store/10.1002/cncr.25954/asset/25954_ftp.pdf

  • miche01
    miche01 Member Posts: 5
    edited December 2016 #13
    question

    Were you having symptoms that lead you to get tested?

     

  • tooshort1
    tooshort1 Member Posts: 1
    edited December 2016 #14
    colon cancer

    I just found out I have colon cancer,the PET scan has found cancer in my liver, left breast and kidney.I am having a biopsy

    of liver next week.I am so scared,I don't know what is going to happen,how I'm going to deal with all of this.I will be having

    chemco and radiation. Will I lose my hair,I see most people do,will it make me sick .I need help and yes the doctors have told me things but they have not be there.

  • marybrang
    marybrang Member Posts: 7
    My case very much like yours

    My case was very similar to yours: I was diagnosed at age 50 during a routine exam with Stage 3b sigmoid colon cancer (it had spread to my lymph nodes), I had surgery, and then I went through an identical chemo regimen. This past December I met with my oncologist for the last time -- she said I was cured. I had waited to hear those words.

    Now for some key details:

    Had trouble for the first few months after surgery with using the toilet. There are no polite words for this part. I really only had three accidents...? maybe just 2, but I had close moments, I had a fear of going out for long amounts of time without a bathroom handy -- -it wasn't easy adjusting to my "new normal." Even today, I still have days where I go to the bathroom unusual amounts. I cannot eat exactly the same as I did in the past if I am at work -- I have certain ways of eating (no breakfast, salad for lunch) that works best for me when I have to sit at a desk for the rest of the day.

    I don't think I'm unusual, you will have to relearn to a certain extent what foods work for you and what foods do not. BTW, I can still eat anything, I just have to time it correctly if I know I cannot be running to the bathroom as ideally needed.

    Chemo... well, chemo was chemo. I had to delay a session shortly before the end because I had become so weak and I needed to build myself up. Still, I soldiered on and came through it and now I'm here. I don't think it's unusual for people to need a break. My one piece of advice for the chemo portion of cancer: Exercise, exercise, exercise. In my case I walked as much as possible. This helped tremendously, lifted my spirits and helped me recover from the surgery.  

    After care: No one talks about this but you're kinda like Humpty Dumpty after cancer -- you have to put yourself back together again after it's over and in subtle ways, that's the hardest part. You're no longer up against it but you are more alone, in ways. Everyone sees you as "back to normal" but inside you're anything but. I believe this is the moment where you really must show your stength. This is the moment you learn what you're made of -- in the best way. 

    Here's the weirdest part: When I was diagnosed, I had never been so shocked in my life -- I felt perfectly healthy and I was just out of my mind crazy, crying, bargaining with God -- I was like a three year old on the carpet kicking and screaming ...

    Today, I can honestly say that I am grateful for the experience, it changed me for the best. It cost me time, it cost me money, but it made me better.

    IF I SURVIVED IT, YOU CAN TOO!!!!!  Seriously, you can beat this, lots of people do. I found reading these message boards very helpful, others gave me hope. 

  • Joan M
    Joan M Member Posts: 409 Member
    tooshort1 said:

    colon cancer

    I just found out I have colon cancer,the PET scan has found cancer in my liver, left breast and kidney.I am having a biopsy

    of liver next week.I am so scared,I don't know what is going to happen,how I'm going to deal with all of this.I will be having

    chemco and radiation. Will I lose my hair,I see most people do,will it make me sick .I need help and yes the doctors have told me things but they have not be there.

    It is hard to deal with a

    It is hard to deal with a diagnosis like that.  Your doctors are the best to advise you as they know the specific treatments of your disease.  I was afraid of the chemo too, but decided that I had to do whatever I could to survive for as long as I can. 

    As for me, I found that the new treatments caused fewer side effects than I expected to get.  I lost my hair after a couple of months.  You have probably started losing your hair or will soon.  It will most likely grow back after you finish chemotherapy. 

    God Bless you! I hope everything is going well for you.

    Joan M

     

  • Travis8
    Travis8 Member Posts: 22
    edited January 2017 #17
    Hi, I was diagnosed with

    Hi, I was diagnosed with stage 3 colon cancer and also had a successful resection after 6 weeks or radiation. I followed that up with 12 treatments of mop up chemo. I believe it was the same type you are about to go through. I only had one really bad day every two weeks. The day after the infusion. I never got sick or experienced much nausea, just didn't feel like eating and hard to explain  uncomfortable tingling and weakness. I was still able to work but no hard labor.. i drank boost and milk mixed with powdered milk when I couldn't eat. Good luck with your treatmentd. 12 seemed like a huge number but I counted it down and was proud of the strength I had to go through it when it was over. Gonna be some bad days but Support from forums like these really helped me.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  • blessed39
    blessed39 Member Posts: 90 Member
    edited February 2017 #18
    "How I Beat Stage Four Colon Cancer"

    Dear shifra.  If you would be interested in reading my story "How I Beat Stage Four Colon Cancer" just go to my page

    blessed39 and click on blog and my story will come up. I don't give medical advice, just what worked for me. God bless

    blessed39

  • DTrout
    DTrout Member Posts: 3
    kmygil said:

    Practical Issues

    Or:  Things Your Doctor Never Told you

    Or:  Things You Learn from Chemo Nurses and Fellow Patients

    No matter what you choose to do, stay hydrated and on top of your nutrition.

    Walk a little every day.

    Listen to your body.

    Stay hydrated.  Optimize your nutrition.

    If you choose chemo and end up with Folfox4 or 5, bring gloves everywhere.  One of my best moments: hurling a pound of frozen ground meat across the supermarket after I picked it up without gloves.

    Get reliable helpers and don't be afraid to ask for help.

    Get antidepressants if you get depressed.  You can stop them when you're done being depressed.

    Get pissed off with your cancer and fight the thing.

    Stay on this forum.  The wonderful people here literally saved my sanity.

    Stay hydrated.  Optimize your nutrition.

    Did I mention to stay hydrated and to optimize your nutrition?

    Hugs, hugs, hugs.

    Flying Meat

    i had to laugh when I read that. Had a very similar experience in my kitchen. Thank goodness no one was in there with me!!

  • danker
    danker Member Posts: 1,276 Member
    marybrang said:

    My case very much like yours

    My case was very similar to yours: I was diagnosed at age 50 during a routine exam with Stage 3b sigmoid colon cancer (it had spread to my lymph nodes), I had surgery, and then I went through an identical chemo regimen. This past December I met with my oncologist for the last time -- she said I was cured. I had waited to hear those words.

    Now for some key details:

    Had trouble for the first few months after surgery with using the toilet. There are no polite words for this part. I really only had three accidents...? maybe just 2, but I had close moments, I had a fear of going out for long amounts of time without a bathroom handy -- -it wasn't easy adjusting to my "new normal." Even today, I still have days where I go to the bathroom unusual amounts. I cannot eat exactly the same as I did in the past if I am at work -- I have certain ways of eating (no breakfast, salad for lunch) that works best for me when I have to sit at a desk for the rest of the day.

    I don't think I'm unusual, you will have to relearn to a certain extent what foods work for you and what foods do not. BTW, I can still eat anything, I just have to time it correctly if I know I cannot be running to the bathroom as ideally needed.

    Chemo... well, chemo was chemo. I had to delay a session shortly before the end because I had become so weak and I needed to build myself up. Still, I soldiered on and came through it and now I'm here. I don't think it's unusual for people to need a break. My one piece of advice for the chemo portion of cancer: Exercise, exercise, exercise. In my case I walked as much as possible. This helped tremendously, lifted my spirits and helped me recover from the surgery.  

    After care: No one talks about this but you're kinda like Humpty Dumpty after cancer -- you have to put yourself back together again after it's over and in subtle ways, that's the hardest part. You're no longer up against it but you are more alone, in ways. Everyone sees you as "back to normal" but inside you're anything but. I believe this is the moment where you really must show your stength. This is the moment you learn what you're made of -- in the best way. 

    Here's the weirdest part: When I was diagnosed, I had never been so shocked in my life -- I felt perfectly healthy and I was just out of my mind crazy, crying, bargaining with God -- I was like a three year old on the carpet kicking and screaming ...

    Today, I can honestly say that I am grateful for the experience, it changed me for the best. It cost me time, it cost me money, but it made me better.

    IF I SURVIVED IT, YOU CAN TOO!!!!!  Seriously, you can beat this, lots of people do. I found reading these message boards very helpful, others gave me hope. 

    cured

    Trubrit contends only ham is cured!  Us cancer survivors abe currently NED (no evedence of disease).

  • RetiredNellie
    RetiredNellie Member Posts: 14
    marybrang said:

    My case very much like yours

    My case was very similar to yours: I was diagnosed at age 50 during a routine exam with Stage 3b sigmoid colon cancer (it had spread to my lymph nodes), I had surgery, and then I went through an identical chemo regimen. This past December I met with my oncologist for the last time -- she said I was cured. I had waited to hear those words.

    Now for some key details:

    Had trouble for the first few months after surgery with using the toilet. There are no polite words for this part. I really only had three accidents...? maybe just 2, but I had close moments, I had a fear of going out for long amounts of time without a bathroom handy -- -it wasn't easy adjusting to my "new normal." Even today, I still have days where I go to the bathroom unusual amounts. I cannot eat exactly the same as I did in the past if I am at work -- I have certain ways of eating (no breakfast, salad for lunch) that works best for me when I have to sit at a desk for the rest of the day.

    I don't think I'm unusual, you will have to relearn to a certain extent what foods work for you and what foods do not. BTW, I can still eat anything, I just have to time it correctly if I know I cannot be running to the bathroom as ideally needed.

    Chemo... well, chemo was chemo. I had to delay a session shortly before the end because I had become so weak and I needed to build myself up. Still, I soldiered on and came through it and now I'm here. I don't think it's unusual for people to need a break. My one piece of advice for the chemo portion of cancer: Exercise, exercise, exercise. In my case I walked as much as possible. This helped tremendously, lifted my spirits and helped me recover from the surgery.  

    After care: No one talks about this but you're kinda like Humpty Dumpty after cancer -- you have to put yourself back together again after it's over and in subtle ways, that's the hardest part. You're no longer up against it but you are more alone, in ways. Everyone sees you as "back to normal" but inside you're anything but. I believe this is the moment where you really must show your stength. This is the moment you learn what you're made of -- in the best way. 

    Here's the weirdest part: When I was diagnosed, I had never been so shocked in my life -- I felt perfectly healthy and I was just out of my mind crazy, crying, bargaining with God -- I was like a three year old on the carpet kicking and screaming ...

    Today, I can honestly say that I am grateful for the experience, it changed me for the best. It cost me time, it cost me money, but it made me better.

    IF I SURVIVED IT, YOU CAN TOO!!!!!  Seriously, you can beat this, lots of people do. I found reading these message boards very helpful, others gave me hope. 

    Thank you Mary for the post. 

    Thank you Mary for the post.  Very helpful, pragmatic and down to earth.  How are things going for you now?