Diagnosed with Uterine Clear Cell (UCC) with Serous (USPC)

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  • ryee21
    ryee21 Member Posts: 21
    Kvdyson said:

    Understanding staging

    Hi ryee21, here is what I found online: Stage IIB cancer involves the uterus and extends into deep layers of the cervix.

    Everyone has to make their own decisions about what type of treatment is right for them. I ended up having three opinions and having a piece of the tumor tested against a panel of chemo meds before deciding what was right for me. I have been NED (no evidence of disease) since the end of treatment in May 2016. 

    We all understand your anger and frustration that this cancer treatment process is not more clear-cut. Unfortunately there is a lot of educated guessing that goes on. Don't hesitate to get a second (or third) opinion from an expert in UPSC to help you decide. Wishing you peace and strength, Kim

    wow.. thank you for helping..

    So it is for a pre-exisiting  condition.  I had a radicial hystrectomy.  I did have a pelvic wash after surgery.  All I have left is my vagina. Even now I am not myself. I just got hot flashes yesterday.  None of my lympth nodes are affected and  I am not convinced the dcotors working on me know much of this. In June, I had surgery.  They wanted to start me  Chemo with taxol/carbo right away but I had a really bad feeling about it.  I cancelled.  It is Nov and I am scheduled again for chemo and again a really bad feeling.  Did you do any chemo?  My 2nd pap smear 2 weeks ago came back negative. I have UCC with serous. I have both.  I was told they cannot determine where clear cell lands.  (As one doctor said, they wouild have to chop  me into pieces to find out.)  Is that right?   I am lost.  They took my cancer infected parts for study otherwise it would be toss out.  What would you recommend for another opinion?  What I don't like is it can reoccur even with checmo.. it isn't a cure.  Do you know anyone who did jucing.. change the biology? Thanks Roni

  • ryee21
    ryee21 Member Posts: 21
    MAbound said:

    PS

    You said you don't want to burden your daughter, but keeping her in the dark is likely not helping her. You're stressed and she'll be stressed too without understanding why. 17 year olds can be very sensitive to underlying currents in the home and can imagine much worse than the reality. She's going to want to be treated like the adult she almost is and to have the chance to be there for you as you've always been for her. This is just my opinion, but I can't help but feel that including rather than shielding her will help to keep trust between you so that you can support each other.

    It is a he. my son.

    Thanks for your comments.  I have all medical conditions gathered, surgeries everything. Nothing explains this but Estrogen given to me in 2013.  My son has been with me but it isn't going to be pretty and I don't want him to suffer my pain.  He of course wants to stay.  I am sensivie to medication. I have Trigmeminial Neuroglia, Neotropic Cornea and others none of it cured.  I tend to get the diseases no one hardly gets. I see what it is doing to him.. I don't like it. thanks.

  • ryee21
    ryee21 Member Posts: 21
    janaes said:

    Ry, Im so glad you made it to

    Ry, Im so glad you made it to the group with all your concerns and feelings.  It took a while to have my doctors to tell me what my diagnosis was.  One doctor told me totally different things than other doctors.  I was so mad for quite a while.  He told me i didnt need chemo at all and got all excited and had even told my work i wouldnt need it.  It seemed so unfair when another doctor told me that i did need chemo.  It wasnt until i had a tumor board of 7 doctors and a visit with another doctor and a clear picture of what my pathology report said along with the wonderful ladies on this board that i was able to make the desision to do chemotherapy.  Even after my desision to do chemo i didnt really want to do it, but knew it was the best desision for me.  I just finished all my treatments last thursday and as challenging as it was, i made it through them.   You can to if that is what you decide.  This is a great group to have for support.

    Hugs Janae

    thanks.

    yes, I would be upset too on what happened to you.   I am still on the fence.  I changed my diet hoping it will make a difference.  Who knows? I can't seem to make a solid decision on anything. Sorry not as strong as everone here. Worse no family to help execpt my son who is too young for this.. I guess I will figure it  out.  Roni

  • Double Whammy
    Double Whammy Member Posts: 2,832 Member
    edited November 2016 #25
    Suggestion

    We will support you no matter what you decide, but here's a suggestion:  get a copy of your pathology report and surgical report and get a second opinion. Not a problem with a cancer diagnosis.  It sounds like you are confused about your diagnosis and recommended treatment.  Never hurts to have that second set of ears and eyes.  We can tell you what our experience has been and that means a lot of most folks.  You can go to the NCCN site and see what the standard of care is for the type of cancer you have, but a professional opinion and dialog is definitely in order.

    Suzanne

  • derMaus
    derMaus Member Posts: 558 Member
    edited November 2016 #26

    Suggestion

    We will support you no matter what you decide, but here's a suggestion:  get a copy of your pathology report and surgical report and get a second opinion. Not a problem with a cancer diagnosis.  It sounds like you are confused about your diagnosis and recommended treatment.  Never hurts to have that second set of ears and eyes.  We can tell you what our experience has been and that means a lot of most folks.  You can go to the NCCN site and see what the standard of care is for the type of cancer you have, but a professional opinion and dialog is definitely in order.

    Suzanne

    New To This

    Hello,

    I was just diagnosed with Undifferentiated Uterine Carcinoma (not sure what the acronym for that is) and am terrified, so finding this board was a godsend.

    I have a PT scan tomorrow and, hopefully, a hysterectomy in the next 2 weeks. My onc has an excellent reputation but is not very communicative, and I'm confused about the possible sequencing of chemo-radiation-surgery. Would they do chemo *before* the surgery? I was told that's a possibility but would't doing the treatment, and waiting for it to take effect, delay the surgery ? All concerned want that ASAP. I appreciate anyone's feedback.

     

  • janaes
    janaes Member Posts: 799 Member
    edited November 2016 #27
    From what i understand chemo

    From what i understand chemo comes after surgery.  Thats how it was for me and unless i am mistaken most if not all the women on this board have done chemo after sugery.  Hope fully more ladies respond to you as well.  If not you can start a new topic and they seem to respond faster to that.

  • derMaus
    derMaus Member Posts: 558 Member
    edited November 2016 #28
    janaes said:

    From what i understand chemo

    From what i understand chemo comes after surgery.  Thats how it was for me and unless i am mistaken most if not all the women on this board have done chemo after sugery.  Hope fully more ladies respond to you as well.  If not you can start a new topic and they seem to respond faster to that.

    thank you for responding so quickly!

    May I ask what your situation is? Have you explained it elsewhere and I can just look it up? This is the first place I haven't found "you'll be dead in 10 months", or worse.

  • Editgrl
    Editgrl Member Posts: 903 Member
    Hi, derMaus

    Sorry for the reason you are here, but I am glad that you found us.  Many of us on the board have described our situations in our About Me page.  If you click on the username in a thread, it will take you to that page.

    Most of the time the hysterectomy is done first, especially if a scan has been done and doesn't show any masses or tumors anywhere else.  Occasionally chemo is done to shrink a tumor prior to surgery, but I think that is more common with tumors or masses outside of the uterus.

    Your scan will show if the cancer has spread, and hopefully it has not.  Staging will probably come after the hysterectomy.  Staging in essence describes the extent of the cancer; how far it has penetrated the endometrium, whether it is in the lymph nodes or omentum, or the ovaries, etc. The stage will help determine what kind of treatment, i.e., chemo and/or radiation your doctor may recommend.

    I would suggest getting copies of all of your scans, pathology, tests, etc.  They will come in handy not only for your own records, but should you decide to get a second or third opinion, you will already have those in hand.

    While the internet can be a good source of information, it can also be pretty scary.  Please keep in mind that the information you may find can be quite dated.  By the time studies are actually published, years can have gone by, and new treatments and regimens are being developed all the time.  Don't put a lot of stock in statistics.  There are a number of women here who have beaten overwhelming odds.

    Take a breath.  It's all very unnerving at the beginning.  Many here, myself included, will tell you that the beginning is the hardest part to deal with, when all you have is a diagnosis and no real plan with a lot of information yet to come.

    Know that we are here to support you in any way we can.  You can ask any question or just vent.  We are here for you.

    Chris

     

  • derMaus
    derMaus Member Posts: 558 Member
    Editgrl said:

    Hi, derMaus

    Sorry for the reason you are here, but I am glad that you found us.  Many of us on the board have described our situations in our About Me page.  If you click on the username in a thread, it will take you to that page.

    Most of the time the hysterectomy is done first, especially if a scan has been done and doesn't show any masses or tumors anywhere else.  Occasionally chemo is done to shrink a tumor prior to surgery, but I think that is more common with tumors or masses outside of the uterus.

    Your scan will show if the cancer has spread, and hopefully it has not.  Staging will probably come after the hysterectomy.  Staging in essence describes the extent of the cancer; how far it has penetrated the endometrium, whether it is in the lymph nodes or omentum, or the ovaries, etc. The stage will help determine what kind of treatment, i.e., chemo and/or radiation your doctor may recommend.

    I would suggest getting copies of all of your scans, pathology, tests, etc.  They will come in handy not only for your own records, but should you decide to get a second or third opinion, you will already have those in hand.

    While the internet can be a good source of information, it can also be pretty scary.  Please keep in mind that the information you may find can be quite dated.  By the time studies are actually published, years can have gone by, and new treatments and regimens are being developed all the time.  Don't put a lot of stock in statistics.  There are a number of women here who have beaten overwhelming odds.

    Take a breath.  It's all very unnerving at the beginning.  Many here, myself included, will tell you that the beginning is the hardest part to deal with, when all you have is a diagnosis and no real plan with a lot of information yet to come.

    Know that we are here to support you in any way we can.  You can ask any question or just vent.  We are here for you.

    Chris

     

    Thank you Chris for reaching

    Thank you Chris for reaching out so quickly. I love being able to see individual profiles! Hopefully I will become more familiar quickly with how the site works, and perhaps even contribute something on occassion. 

  • EZLiving66
    EZLiving66 Member Posts: 1,482 Member
    edited November 2016 #31
    derMaus said:

    New To This

    Hello,

    I was just diagnosed with Undifferentiated Uterine Carcinoma (not sure what the acronym for that is) and am terrified, so finding this board was a godsend.

    I have a PT scan tomorrow and, hopefully, a hysterectomy in the next 2 weeks. My onc has an excellent reputation but is not very communicative, and I'm confused about the possible sequencing of chemo-radiation-surgery. Would they do chemo *before* the surgery? I was told that's a possibility but would't doing the treatment, and waiting for it to take effect, delay the surgery ? All concerned want that ASAP. I appreciate anyone's feedback.

     

    I'm sorry you had a need to

    I'm sorry you had a need to find us but glad you did.  This site is a wealth of information and I wish I had found it when I was first diagnosed.  When I had my biopsy they thought I had Stage 1 regular old endometrial cancer.  But after the hysterectomy and that biopsy, they found it was UPSC (Uterine Papillary Serous Carcinoma) which is a much more aggressive uterine cancer and is always Grade 3.  Luckily, after the hysterectomy, they did a CT scan and didn't find anything else suspicious so "assumed" it hadn't spread outside my uterus and cervix.  That made me Stage II.  My gyno/oncologist recommended six rounds of Carboplatin and Taxotere but no radiation.  Others who have had the same thing as me were given other treatment.  You'll find that treatments vary from one country to another, one state to another and sometimes from one cancer center in the same city to another.  It's a real toss-up.  You can probably find a study that says eating turnip tops cures cancer but I've learned to take a lot of what the internet has to say with a grain of salt.  That being said, there are a lot of legitimate, peer-reviewed articles out there on new treatments and clinical trials that are working.

    Please let us know how your PET scan turns out today - we're all in this crappy boat together so we might as well make the best of it and have a little fun!

    Love,

    Eldri

  • Nellasing
    Nellasing Member Posts: 528 Member
    Welcome derMaus

    Hi,

    You have already gotten really good information and I agree that surgery normally comes first- it did for me- then a healing period- they will be staging and grading the tissue that they take during surgery and from there your oncologist will be able to form a plan for treatment.

    It is terribly frightening to hear those words and to have our human experience called into a sudden halt but I have found that it's just given me a deeper appreciation of every single person and thing in my life and as many many will tell you- NO ONE knows the expiration date and though some Drs will give you their best guess or give you statistics that doesn't mean anything because it doesn't take into account what YOU will do- how YOU will thrive and progress- how YOU will take control of your mind and situation.  Please don't lose sight of the fact that this is just another part of the journey of your life and it's up to you how you want to do it.  We've all walked these same scary first moments but as you read you will see that though they are similar there is not one that does it the same :D 

    We are here for you- please come ask your questions, share your fears, feel the support for it is here- we'll all link arms and walk along.  You should find that everyone you meet in connection with your care is extremely kind and helpful.  If that is not the case they may not be the perfect match for you- don't be afraid to find the right fit for you.

    Take courage - you will find that once you get your feet under you again you are stronger than you can ever imagine you are!

    (((HUGS))) and prayers as you go through your PET Scan <3<3  one day at a time has helped me ALOT- just one day- don't look too far ahead because TODAY is the only day any of us really has <3<3

  • TeddyandBears_Mom
    TeddyandBears_Mom Member Posts: 1,811 Member
    Hello derMaus - Welcome to

    Hello derMaus - Welcome to our board and sorry you have the need to be here. This is a wonderful place to come to for support, love, answers and venting. As others have said, the first part of this journey is the hardest. Once you know what your cancer is - the stage and grade and a plan is put into place, you will feel a lot better and will be prepared to fight and thrive. 

    Please come back and let us know the results of your scan. And, ask us anything. Someone will most likely have an answer.

    Love and Hugs,

    Cindi

  • derMaus
    derMaus Member Posts: 558 Member
    edited November 2016 #34
    Thank You All

    Thank you all for the warm welcome. Honestly this forum is the only thing that's standing between me and complete meltdown at this point. I had a super-stressful job from mid-2013 to early 2016 (interim position, devastated to not be given the permanent position). I can't help but think the stress of that situation didn't help one damn bit. Had ankle reconstruction earlier this year w/protracted recovery, then my mother died unexpectedly mid-September, then this situation 7 weeks later. Truly I would be in padded room somewhere if I hadn't been able to find some positive outlooks, since they certainly aren't to be found anywhere else. My CT scan was this morning and I came home to a pre-op appointment next week, then hysterectomy on the 28th. Thank god I'll be getting it out, but I'm terrified that it's spread all over -- my uterine lining was 2.4 cm and I have a 5 cm mass with increased vascularity, unknown to be fibroid or not.  Has anyone here come back with an initial diagnosis of Stage 4? That's what really has me worried, along with the rest of it of course. Thank you all again, this is such a bright spot!

  • janaes
    janaes Member Posts: 799 Member
    I am so sorry you have been

    I am so sorry you have been through so much.  Sometimes this stuff doesnt seem fair at all.  I didnt go through the same thing you are going through but i know stuff on top of cancer just really stinks.  I had seperated from my husband just months before my diagnosis and was a single mother at the time.  At first i was so mad i had to do both at the same time.   I want you to know i am thinking about you and hoping that you will feel comfort as you deal with all this.  Know that your feelings are okay to have and that its a part of all this.  For me as i faced and felt my feelings i was able to do better.

    Lots of love, janae

  • derMaus
    derMaus Member Posts: 558 Member
    edited November 2016 #36
    janaes said:

    I am so sorry you have been

    I am so sorry you have been through so much.  Sometimes this stuff doesnt seem fair at all.  I didnt go through the same thing you are going through but i know stuff on top of cancer just really stinks.  I had seperated from my husband just months before my diagnosis and was a single mother at the time.  At first i was so mad i had to do both at the same time.   I want you to know i am thinking about you and hoping that you will feel comfort as you deal with all this.  Know that your feelings are okay to have and that its a part of all this.  For me as i faced and felt my feelings i was able to do better.

    Lots of love, janae

    Gratitude

    Thank you Janae. I don't know why I put all that stuff out there, just to say that I was super stressed before this began and have absolutely no reserves left to deal with what's going on now. Usually I'm pretty stoic and self contained but this one is a humdinger. I feel fortunate that I don't have children, though, or even my mother now: it would be horrible to have to care for others while dealing with this yourself. I'm blessed to have a good job that will work with me, very good insurance, and access here in So Cal to numerous treatment options. All that said, this Board is the best resource out there. You rock!

  • Lou Ann M
    Lou Ann M Member Posts: 996 Member
    Welcome to this little club

    Welcome to this little club that no one wants to belong to, but glad that you found this spot.  It is a great place to come to for support, information, encouragement, and just plain having someone to listen to you.  Ask, scream, cry and vent when you need to, someone will be here to listen and give you hugs and,encouragement.  Stress really does not help and you certainly have had a lot lately.  As hard as it is, try to,take,one,day at a time.  I was diagnosed a little,over 4years ago with Serous Papillary Endomedrial andocarcinoma  stage IV. High grade and I am still.here.  I have many more good days than bad. I have had a few months of NED and,have,been on almost constant treatment for,the,last 3 years.  I have found out that I am much stronger than I,ever though I could be.  I have gotten to welcome and cuddle four great grand children.  I have found out that I have,many freinds and an amazing husband and,family.  We are all scared at first, but life,does go on.  You will.amaze yourself with how.strong you,will be.  It does,get easier when you know the whole picture.

    Hugs and prayers, Lou Ann

  • ryee21
    ryee21 Member Posts: 21
    Kvdyson said:

    Yes, my frontline treatment

    Yes, my frontline treatment was 6 rounds of chemo (Ifosfamide/Mesna/Taxol) and 28 external radiation treatments. My dx was carcinosarcoma (aka MMMT), stage 1b, grade 3. It's another aggressive type of uterine cancer. I was absolutely dreading the chemo but was lucky and had only minor side effects - and actually, those minor side effects were related to the Neulasta shot I received after each chemo treatment to help build up my white blood cells. I have no regrets in choosing the most aggressive treatment that my body could handle.

    good to know..thanks. I am scheduled for taxol/carbol

    Did you try the cold caps?  I hate to bother you but can you tell me what I will need to do to prepare for chemo? I know I need to pick up my meds but I don't know what to do before that.  They say follow the scripts but I am too overwhelm and there is no one to help me except my son.  My family wished me good luck.  wtf? sob.. oh well.

    I am labeled Endrometic Cancer with serous.  Just told two days ago grade 3.  I have to look that up.  This is so unfair! I seemed to have fallen into a depression. Have you heard anyone doing nutritional jucing.  I don't want chemo.  I have too many other health issues.

    What upsets me is, gyn doc gave me estrogen when I was post menupausal and refused to give me progrestrone with it.  I believe it was from the estrogen given to me in 2013 when I was  post menpausal. Of course, denial it wasn't from that.  Sorry I think I am in the angry stage. :) thks for any help.

    warmly, roni

  • ryee21
    ryee21 Member Posts: 21
    derMaus said:

    New To This

    Hello,

    I was just diagnosed with Undifferentiated Uterine Carcinoma (not sure what the acronym for that is) and am terrified, so finding this board was a godsend.

    I have a PT scan tomorrow and, hopefully, a hysterectomy in the next 2 weeks. My onc has an excellent reputation but is not very communicative, and I'm confused about the possible sequencing of chemo-radiation-surgery. Would they do chemo *before* the surgery? I was told that's a possibility but would't doing the treatment, and waiting for it to take effect, delay the surgery ? All concerned want that ASAP. I appreciate anyone's feedback.

     

    I think the acronym is UCAe

    see https://mdanderson.influuent.utsystem.edu/en/publications/undifferentiated-carcinoma-of-the-endometrium-an-expanded-immunoh

    The cancer.gov or any other facility will have more info.  I am sorry.  My ONc is suppose to be excellent but hard to communciate tool.  I did a radical H. and were scheduled the same drugs that mos with my type are given. 

    roni

    If high-grade hopefully not,

  • Kvdyson
    Kvdyson Member Posts: 789
    edited November 2016 #40
    ryee21 said:

    good to know..thanks. I am scheduled for taxol/carbol

    Did you try the cold caps?  I hate to bother you but can you tell me what I will need to do to prepare for chemo? I know I need to pick up my meds but I don't know what to do before that.  They say follow the scripts but I am too overwhelm and there is no one to help me except my son.  My family wished me good luck.  wtf? sob.. oh well.

    I am labeled Endrometic Cancer with serous.  Just told two days ago grade 3.  I have to look that up.  This is so unfair! I seemed to have fallen into a depression. Have you heard anyone doing nutritional jucing.  I don't want chemo.  I have too many other health issues.

    What upsets me is, gyn doc gave me estrogen when I was post menupausal and refused to give me progrestrone with it.  I believe it was from the estrogen given to me in 2013 when I was  post menpausal. Of course, denial it wasn't from that.  Sorry I think I am in the angry stage. :) thks for any help.

    warmly, roni

    Hi Roni, it's okay to be

    Hi Roni, it's okay to be angry at this stage. Getting cancer is not fair. In time, once you get used to the treatments, you'll feel like you have a little control again and you may feel the anger going away a little. That will be good for you. I've heard that anger is like drinking poison and then hoping the other person will die. 

    I didn't use the cold caps. The office where I had my infusions wasn't set-up for them and they are very expensive so I just learned how to tie head scarves by watching a bunch of you-tube videos. Losing my hair the first time was pretty traumatic but I just tried to remind myself that it meant the chemo was doing it's job and killing the cells.

    I went through an orientation with my infusion nurses and they gave me a detailed calendar for when to take each pre-treatment med. It helped a lot. If you're not going to have an orientation then you may want to call them and write down the instructions on a calendar so that you can be sure to take everything timely.

    Don't be too hard on your family. It's very normal for them to not know what to say or to do. I found that I had to be very clear and specific when I needed my husband to do something for me. Making him guess what I needed or wanted did not work. He was glad to help once he knew what to do. For moral/mental support, I joined four different online support groups. In that way, I could commiserate with those who understood what was happening and ask questions from the real experts. I hope that we are helping you in that way, too.

    Hang in there. You are going to do fine and we'll be with you as long as you need us. Kim