Questions from a nervous Mellie- Updated

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  • Srashedb
    Srashedb Member Posts: 482 Member

    Thank you

    Thank you for the kind words.  I'm glad to hear your hubby coped well.  It is scary when you have experiences that and then Your faces with something major.

    mellie:
    my husband had a

    mellie:

    my husband had a grade 2 tumor, 10 cm with 2 mets on the spine; one was treated with laminectomy and the other with cyber.

    as of his last scans (5/19), there is no visible cancer; visible being the operative word since once it went to the bloodstream, it could still be spreading.

    we have a terrifIc medical team, however, so we are hopeful.

    Sarah

  • Melliebean
    Melliebean Member Posts: 53
    Srashedb said:

    mellie:
    my husband had a

    mellie:

    my husband had a grade 2 tumor, 10 cm with 2 mets on the spine; one was treated with laminectomy and the other with cyber.

    as of his last scans (5/19), there is no visible cancer; visible being the operative word since once it went to the bloodstream, it could still be spreading.

    we have a terrifIc medical team, however, so we are hopeful.

    Sarah

    Questions?

    I hope your husband is on the road to recovery.  I know I am feeling a bit better this evening. My doctor contacted me and I was able to ask some more questions and he has put me much more at ease now. I should have been more patient.  I think I have felt bad for so long I just wanted an answer. It's one of those feeling bad where really when people ask what's wrong all you can say is I just don't feel good and I'm tired. I was beginning to think it was in my head.

    This morning the doctor had mentioned a partial nepherectomy for me but after going back over my CT scans it's going to be a full. they are suppose to call and schedule it tomorrow. I was so nervous when surgery was mentioned I was trembling all over. But I have calmed now it has to be done and I know all will be well.

    What questions do I need to be asking?  He mentioned doing it from the side because of some enlarged blood dialiated blood vessels in my abdomen. I questioned him about one kidney being enough for my lymphedema. I questioned him about the medications I take that help my kidneys keep the water off my body. I told him about all the complications from my last surgery.

    Now what questions do I need to be asking that I have no clue to ask about I know there has got to be a bunch?  

  • Melliebean
    Melliebean Member Posts: 53

    Questions?

    I hope your husband is on the road to recovery.  I know I am feeling a bit better this evening. My doctor contacted me and I was able to ask some more questions and he has put me much more at ease now. I should have been more patient.  I think I have felt bad for so long I just wanted an answer. It's one of those feeling bad where really when people ask what's wrong all you can say is I just don't feel good and I'm tired. I was beginning to think it was in my head.

    This morning the doctor had mentioned a partial nepherectomy for me but after going back over my CT scans it's going to be a full. they are suppose to call and schedule it tomorrow. I was so nervous when surgery was mentioned I was trembling all over. But I have calmed now it has to be done and I know all will be well.

    What questions do I need to be asking?  He mentioned doing it from the side because of some enlarged blood dialiated blood vessels in my abdomen. I questioned him about one kidney being enough for my lymphedema. I questioned him about the medications I take that help my kidneys keep the water off my body. I told him about all the complications from my last surgery.

    Now what questions do I need to be asking that I have no clue to ask about I know there has got to be a bunch?  

    Humor

    On a humorous note if I can make someone laugh. When I was done speaking with the doctor I was shaking all over. Even my bottom lip was shaking and I couldn't get it to stop. Well I walk into the room to tell my husband what was said and he sees me shaking and says slow down now stop. (Anxiety kicked in hard, hard to explain but my last surgery was a nightmare.)

    i sat there a sec it just wouldn't stop for anything so before I could think I yelled STOP! And popped myself in the lip. Well that did the trick LOL.  I know it's not that funny but since we are both sleep deprived today we finally rolled with laughter.  I was like I just hit my self and just kept right on laughing. After that the day got a bit brighter. Putting my big girl pants on I was allowed to be in a daze for a day.

  • Srashedb
    Srashedb Member Posts: 482 Member

    Questions?

    I hope your husband is on the road to recovery.  I know I am feeling a bit better this evening. My doctor contacted me and I was able to ask some more questions and he has put me much more at ease now. I should have been more patient.  I think I have felt bad for so long I just wanted an answer. It's one of those feeling bad where really when people ask what's wrong all you can say is I just don't feel good and I'm tired. I was beginning to think it was in my head.

    This morning the doctor had mentioned a partial nepherectomy for me but after going back over my CT scans it's going to be a full. they are suppose to call and schedule it tomorrow. I was so nervous when surgery was mentioned I was trembling all over. But I have calmed now it has to be done and I know all will be well.

    What questions do I need to be asking?  He mentioned doing it from the side because of some enlarged blood dialiated blood vessels in my abdomen. I questioned him about one kidney being enough for my lymphedema. I questioned him about the medications I take that help my kidneys keep the water off my body. I told him about all the complications from my last surgery.

    Now what questions do I need to be asking that I have no clue to ask about I know there has got to be a bunch?  

    Some suggestions

    make sure you have someone with you that can remain calm and ask dispassionately questions.

    Stress, the new diagnosis, the word cancer takes getting used to and I guarantee you will not remember much.

    in our case, my husband insisted on going to the first meeting by himself; the doctor is some pompous **** I had dealt with before but in our county, he is the head honcho. So, the day before a long 4th of July weekend, he told my husband that he had at most a year and would be lucky to be around for Christmas. I spent the weekend researching as much as I could and connected with the Mayo Clinic.

    after the weekend, I lined up second and third opinions then went with my husband to the radiologist, a urologist, and a neurosurgeon. None of these had any experience in oncology, let alone renal cancer.

    i read all of the reports and by the time we met with the Ucla docs, I could ask questions which led to more questions. As the days went on, we made a plan.

    my husband is doing well these days; he has scans every 3 months which will change to 4 if the next one is clean. He is stage 4 so mortality has broken into our home. 

    Sarah

  • foxhd
    foxhd Member Posts: 3,181 Member
    Srashedb said:

    Some suggestions

    make sure you have someone with you that can remain calm and ask dispassionately questions.

    Stress, the new diagnosis, the word cancer takes getting used to and I guarantee you will not remember much.

    in our case, my husband insisted on going to the first meeting by himself; the doctor is some pompous **** I had dealt with before but in our county, he is the head honcho. So, the day before a long 4th of July weekend, he told my husband that he had at most a year and would be lucky to be around for Christmas. I spent the weekend researching as much as I could and connected with the Mayo Clinic.

    after the weekend, I lined up second and third opinions then went with my husband to the radiologist, a urologist, and a neurosurgeon. None of these had any experience in oncology, let alone renal cancer.

    i read all of the reports and by the time we met with the Ucla docs, I could ask questions which led to more questions. As the days went on, we made a plan.

    my husband is doing well these days; he has scans every 3 months which will change to 4 if the next one is clean. He is stage 4 so mortality has broken into our home. 

    Sarah

    The hardest part

    is the wait. The uncertainty is murder. But once you get through the surgery things get soooo...much better. Accepting these changes is challenging. But we have all been there. Have you noticed the lower stress on the experienced forum members? And not everyone is doing well. Committ to doing your best and try to make everyones job easier. It comes back around.

  • Jojo61
    Jojo61 Member Posts: 1,309 Member
    foxhd said:

    The hardest part

    is the wait. The uncertainty is murder. But once you get through the surgery things get soooo...much better. Accepting these changes is challenging. But we have all been there. Have you noticed the lower stress on the experienced forum members? And not everyone is doing well. Committ to doing your best and try to make everyones job easier. It comes back around.

    Mellie,
    I have just read your

    Mellie,

    I have just read your posts. What an ordeal for you!! Like Ron said, I am sorry you went through the whole biopsy thing. They should just operate. That was an unnecessary and expensive step. But what is done is done. I am glad you are feeling comfortable to post your thoughts on here - and best yet is you are using your sense of humour!! But please do some research and get yourself a good doctor! Try not to worry too much - and keep writing!

    Hugs

    Jojo

     

  • Melliebean
    Melliebean Member Posts: 53
    Jojo61 said:

    Mellie,
    I have just read your

    Mellie,

    I have just read your posts. What an ordeal for you!! Like Ron said, I am sorry you went through the whole biopsy thing. They should just operate. That was an unnecessary and expensive step. But what is done is done. I am glad you are feeling comfortable to post your thoughts on here - and best yet is you are using your sense of humour!! But please do some research and get yourself a good doctor! Try not to worry too much - and keep writing!

    Hugs

    Jojo

     

    Thanks JoJo

    I had questioned the biopsy because I knew it was normally skipped. But they insisted. my mom says it's all a money thing but I don't like saying things like that.  I'll keep writing. It's what I like to do. 

  • GSRon
    GSRon Member Posts: 1,303 Member

    Thanks JoJo

    I had questioned the biopsy because I knew it was normally skipped. But they insisted. my mom says it's all a money thing but I don't like saying things like that.  I'll keep writing. It's what I like to do. 

    I doubt it is a money

    I doubt it is a money thing... it is ignorance...  This is why a proper specialist is needed, they KNOW what the general doctor doesn't.  We see this all too often around here.. extra procedures and wrong procedures due to the lack of experience.  Once you get to the "A" level team, things go smoother and the results improve.

    Good Luck..!

    Ron

  • rainsandpours
    rainsandpours Member Posts: 136
    GSRon said:

    I doubt it is a money

    I doubt it is a money thing... it is ignorance...  This is why a proper specialist is needed, they KNOW what the general doctor doesn't.  We see this all too often around here.. extra procedures and wrong procedures due to the lack of experience.  Once you get to the "A" level team, things go smoother and the results improve.

    Good Luck..!

    Ron

    I had a biopsy first.  Took

    I had a biopsy first.  Took them 2 attempts and 3 months, and I have to agree, it's a waste of time and stress.  But.....I was glad to know I wasn't heading into a major surgery with uncertainty.  I chose to not do RFA (which was an option|) due to the chance it would have to be repeated, and CT scans every 2 months.  No thanks to all that radiation.

     

    We are seem to believe the most important part is to find a surgeon who knows his stuff and you trust.  The good news is in the US, you can somewhat refer yourself for other opinions.  Here in Canada, we are basically stuck with whoever the GP refers us to.  I hated my first Urologist.  That guy was bonehead.  One of my general surgeons referred me to the dr who did my neph, telling me it's who he would trust, and had in fact operated on some of his family members.  That was my first experience with a dr who seemed to actually care.

     

    The waiting is so hard.  But you will get tthrough it!  I passed the time on message boards, and reading every scientific article I could find.  Knowledge makes me worry less.

  • cjhawk38
    cjhawk38 Member Posts: 44
    I understand your concerns

    I too am overweight and had concerns about surgery.  I opted for a biopsy after both CT and MRI didn’t definitely say RCC.  The biopsy was painless and did confirm the RCC.  Also never having surgery before I was very nervous but my urologist at Dr. Phillips Hospital in Orlando, FL was fantastic at making me feel at ease.  He did the surgery robotically on a Monday, I went home on Wednesday and on Sunday went to a concert at Sea World.  I did use my dad’s power wheelchair because I didn’t feel that I could do all the walking I would need to get to the concert but with the wheelchair it was a piece of cake.  My recommendation would be to find a doctor that does robotic surgery with great success over having an open surgery.

    Good luck and remember everyone here has been where you are now,

     

    Cindy

  • Melliebean
    Melliebean Member Posts: 53
    cjhawk38 said:

    I understand your concerns

    I too am overweight and had concerns about surgery.  I opted for a biopsy after both CT and MRI didn’t definitely say RCC.  The biopsy was painless and did confirm the RCC.  Also never having surgery before I was very nervous but my urologist at Dr. Phillips Hospital in Orlando, FL was fantastic at making me feel at ease.  He did the surgery robotically on a Monday, I went home on Wednesday and on Sunday went to a concert at Sea World.  I did use my dad’s power wheelchair because I didn’t feel that I could do all the walking I would need to get to the concert but with the wheelchair it was a piece of cake.  My recommendation would be to find a doctor that does robotic surgery with great success over having an open surgery.

    Good luck and remember everyone here has been where you are now,

     

    Cindy

    Surgery

    That is one thing that is on my list to ask next time I speak with the doctor is wether it's open, lap, or robotic.  He said he would be going in from the side. I do know that. 

  • foxhd
    foxhd Member Posts: 3,181 Member

    Surgery

    That is one thing that is on my list to ask next time I speak with the doctor is wether it's open, lap, or robotic.  He said he would be going in from the side. I do know that. 

    Don't concern yourself with it

    I am not sure why people worry about what procedure will be used to remove the cancer. Let the doctor decide. Then it is your job to get better. To me, it is completely insignificant. In 6 months when you look back, it just won't have mattered. Why put yourself through the stress? I say this in a kind, supportive way.

  • GSRon
    GSRon Member Posts: 1,303 Member
    foxhd said:

    Don't concern yourself with it

    I am not sure why people worry about what procedure will be used to remove the cancer. Let the doctor decide. Then it is your job to get better. To me, it is completely insignificant. In 6 months when you look back, it just won't have mattered. Why put yourself through the stress? I say this in a kind, supportive way.

    I agree... the number one

    I agree... the number one goal I had was to survive the surgery... I knew it would be a big one, so no need to ask those details of how big, how long, etc.  Once I woke up after the big op.. I was elated to say the least..!  I wanted to holler and scream of success..!  But alas, I had all those tubes abd wires, including a tube down my throat... and I could barely move for the first few hours...  Then I started to ask questions about the next step...  

    I must relate what I feel is a funny hospital story... there are two main things a patient needs to do post op... bodily functions and walking..  So on day one, I "thought" I had to go... they gave me a bed pan.  Now I have no idea how one can use such a thing..  I only had gas... they told me to "let er rip.."  this was a good sign, they pump you up to make room to operate..  pass that gas..!!  OK, day two I was SURE I had to go. but I told them get me up I am going to the bathroom..  Nope, they brought me a portable commode... OK, less steps..  Scarey to get up.. but so great to be able to shuffle my feet a few steps.. Off came the hospital gown I turned around and sat down.. ah... relief...

    Get this... I totally forgot that I flashed my ugly back side to the large picture window, which was directly over the main entrance to the hospital and garden area..!   Ya just gotta laugh at "Mooning" a hundred people..!!

    Find a way to smile.. it helps you, it helps the hospital staff...!  You can and will do this..!

    Ron Cool

  • Melliebean
    Melliebean Member Posts: 53
    foxhd said:

    Don't concern yourself with it

    I am not sure why people worry about what procedure will be used to remove the cancer. Let the doctor decide. Then it is your job to get better. To me, it is completely insignificant. In 6 months when you look back, it just won't have mattered. Why put yourself through the stress? I say this in a kind, supportive way.

    I understand

    Main reason I worry how it is done is because my last surgery was open and I had so many complications it took me 33 days in the hospital A wound vac home health and the wound center another four months to heal it up all tha way. That cavern in my abdomen was a monster. And now to top it all off that monster (hernia from that surgery) and the kidney surgery is being done at the same time. would be much nicer to know it's being done laparoscopiic or robotic. My gall bladder was done lap and no complications.

  • Melliebean
    Melliebean Member Posts: 53
    GSRon said:

    I agree... the number one

    I agree... the number one goal I had was to survive the surgery... I knew it would be a big one, so no need to ask those details of how big, how long, etc.  Once I woke up after the big op.. I was elated to say the least..!  I wanted to holler and scream of success..!  But alas, I had all those tubes abd wires, including a tube down my throat... and I could barely move for the first few hours...  Then I started to ask questions about the next step...  

    I must relate what I feel is a funny hospital story... there are two main things a patient needs to do post op... bodily functions and walking..  So on day one, I "thought" I had to go... they gave me a bed pan.  Now I have no idea how one can use such a thing..  I only had gas... they told me to "let er rip.."  this was a good sign, they pump you up to make room to operate..  pass that gas..!!  OK, day two I was SURE I had to go. but I told them get me up I am going to the bathroom..  Nope, they brought me a portable commode... OK, less steps..  Scarey to get up.. but so great to be able to shuffle my feet a few steps.. Off came the hospital gown I turned around and sat down.. ah... relief...

    Get this... I totally forgot that I flashed my ugly back side to the large picture window, which was directly over the main entrance to the hospital and garden area..!   Ya just gotta laugh at "Mooning" a hundred people..!!

    Find a way to smile.. it helps you, it helps the hospital staff...!  You can and will do this..!

    Ron Cool

    Lol

    I've accidentally flashed a few people in the hospital a couple time in my time too.  After being there a while when you feel really bad you lose the modesty.  

  • foxhd
    foxhd Member Posts: 3,181 Member

    I understand

    Main reason I worry how it is done is because my last surgery was open and I had so many complications it took me 33 days in the hospital A wound vac home health and the wound center another four months to heal it up all tha way. That cavern in my abdomen was a monster. And now to top it all off that monster (hernia from that surgery) and the kidney surgery is being done at the same time. would be much nicer to know it's being done laparoscopiic or robotic. My gall bladder was done lap and no complications.

    Keep telling yourself

    that you are going to go through the most important procedure for you and your family. Tell yourself that you look forward to managing this surgery and look forward to a long healthy life because of it. Keep it all positive. You know you will do fine. You will meet this challenge with the advantage of knowing that when you recover, the future will be so bright that you will have to wear sunglasses. Then hold on to that thought tightly. It will all be behind you soon enough.

  • aamdsi
    aamdsi Member Posts: 284
    Agree

    I can totally understand your fear of this surgery due to the bad ones you have had, but each is different.  I think the hardest part of this is the waiting and worrying.  There is nothing you can do - NOTHING.  (Man I hate that feeling!)

    But you have been here before, you know what to expect - so try your damnedest to relax and let the Dr.s do their magic.  Once you are on the "other side" then you can restart your life.  Sure you'll be sore, but it will be a "good sore" due to the fact that its cause made you healthy.  And each day you will get better, feel better, and life will be grand 8-) 

    Don't let the fears of the past get in your way.  You will come out of this with another victory scar and on your way to a cancer free life.

     

    Hugs to you,

    Laurie