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janderson1964
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I have been following his blog. He posted today that he really wants to come back and will behave himself. I know that even I have had my differences with him due to his harsh comments but if you read the entries into his blogs he is just very passionate about beating cancer as we all are but has trouble expressing his passion in a way that is not offensive to some. I think he should be given another chance here and you can all blame me if he gets out of line again. I have expressed my wish for him to be unblocked to CSN as well.

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Didn't realize that he had been blocked.  Everyone has their opinions, and although his at times become very strong, he does it from his heart.  I'd never go through what he does, but if that is what he wants he has every right.  Hope he will be able to come back.  He was very encouraging to people when he wasn't pushing his agenda.

Kim

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Even after several people who disagreed with my friend changed their views and sent her apologies, then she apologized to TPTB at CSN and offered to never post a Bible verse again, she didn't even get a reply. 

Pete's a good guy and is fighting to live because of his children and other situations which were shared privately.  I vote for him to be allowed to return.

 

Where's John23?  Is he banned too?  

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I don't understand why anyone should be banned for posting scriptures. I understand that not everyone is a Christian or have religious beliefs, but like I said below, if we know a certain forum member posts ideas or thoughts that we don't like or agree with, then lets not open up their posts and read them.

I also remember hearing that there was a special forum for Christians (I think). But why? I don't want to go to several forums, I don't have the time or the energy, I want to post here. I like the people I have met here, I don't think I should have to go to a sepereate forum just to meet Christians.

Is there a forum for Muslims, Jews, Wiccans? 

We're all on here for a reason, to get advice, information, support and comfort. To share advice, information, support and comfort.

I just wish we could all get on.

Just my two pennies worth of thoughts.

Group hug

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I wish there was a like button=)

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I had no problem with his posts. 

Each to his own, I would say.  

I know he tipped the apple cart a bit, but if we don't care for his posts, theres nothing saying we have to open them up and read them. 

I hope he posts again, seeing his name means that he's still in the fight, and that is a good thing. 

janderson1964
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He is doing well. Just google [content removed by site administrator] and his blog will come up if you are interested.

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lol just google . . .content removed by the administrator.  I'll have to email to get it from you.  Seriously the censorship on this site is WAY over the top.  Last I checked we were all adults.

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I suppose the new admins will cite a no "true names" policy but I think it is wrong headed here.

Googling [IL2  zometa gcmaf] would get you there.

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Sorry I can't go along with you on this one.  I checked out his blog after your post and he says "USA is a joke as far as I am concerned" and goes on about having lunch with Obama and changing the cancer world.  Huh?  Credentials? 

Jay, at one time, a few years ago, when I had posted that George was starting his second line of chemotherapy Pete had posted that patients should consider death before taking this combo.  He changed his title after I protested.  It was horribly hurtful, still is. 

People are fighting for their lives, to be on this earth as long as possible, and telling them to consider death is an unacceptable response in my humble opinion.  From then on I stayed away from his posts, I had enough heartache and didn't need more from a stranger.

Take care - Tina

 

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Ah, this is very different. 

Posting insensitive replies is totally unacceptable. 

Does CSN not have active moderators? Posts like that should be deleted immedietely. 

I know you can flag a post. How quickly are they taken care of? 

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I have to say I am not sure about Pete coming back to CSN

I have no problem with him sharing his personal treatment plans or philosophies.  Each peron must find what works best for them physically and emotionally.

Unfortunately, Pete has made some very inflammatory remarks in the past about treatment options and people who don't see things his way or who express differing opinions.

Pete is definately passionate about his choices.  I am glad for any level of success it brings him.  I just don't want to see him being any less tolerant of the path others choose to take.

Marie who loves kitties

 

 

 

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No one has the right to ban other than CSN. Don't read his post If they hurt you or make you angry.    Many people left this forum due to not being able to talk about prayer, they were shoved off by members.    Despicable.   

 

Come on folks we have cancer, forgive, even if you can't forget. 

 

 

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You are right, only CSN can ban someone from the site for not following the rules they have set forth.  The one that particularly comes to mind is:

 

No User shall use the Service to advise or to attempt to influence the views, beliefs, or decisions of other Users about their medical care, their religious practices, or their politics.

This particular rule goes on to describe situations in more detail.

Certainly one always has the option of not opening posts on a given topic or by a given user, but that is not the point.  The point is that we are all expected to abide by the rules we agreed to when we joined.

The ultimate decisions are those of the Administrator.

 

 

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it figures I come back and post on this!

 

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I've missed that around these parts...

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Sorry my dear but how dare you!  Pete responded to my post so how could I not read it?  Shame on you and your insensitive response. 

Tina

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the blocking was in part because he has a financial relationship with the Hallwang clinic (gets a discount on tx for every person he gets to go there).  He didn't disclose that here, although he did finally fess up on the Colon Club.  He is basically a shill for that clinic, so I guess if we want a salesperson here working on getting his commissions, that would be up to CSN.  I for one was glad to see him gone.  One can be called a "sheep" and "heroin addict" (heroin=sugar) only so many times.  And I believe that the Hallwang clinic is very suspect in many ways, so I don't think it's good for this board to have someone here who is willing to give it glowing reviews while encouraging others to use their life insurance policies to get access to these so-called "miraculous" German therapies.

And if anyone wants to read yet another heart-breaking case of how Hallwang operates, check out the thread at the CC "Long but final words".

ETA that the real point is that he was blatantly breaking the CSN rule about influencing others in their medical care, all so he could keep getting those treatments for himself.  Not cool.

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Most of us have terminal cancer, get over it, don't go where you don't want to go. You are in control of your options. 

 

Cancer  can cause insanity, depression, craziness, no excuse for his state of mind, but move on. 

 

Forgiver as I was raised, no one is in charge of my motivation, emotions, thoughts, but me. 

 

Good day. 

 

LindaK.
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If he personally "attacked" Tina about George's treatment choices, I would say that is abuse of the rules on here.  Tina should not have to feel bad about it still.  I, for one, do not understand most of his posts and I know English is not his first language.

Linda

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Like I said. CrazIness. 

 

Love to Tina and George. 

 

Later, got to go make my smoothie, and take my connected buddy with me. :) 

 

 

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Pete is Australian, so I would think that English is his first language - you may be thinking of Pepe. 

One of the major issues that I see is that Pete's views can influence the newbies on this site.  They don't know of him, so they certainly wouldn't know not to click on his postings as Nana suggested.  And my personal opinion is that he is rather self-centered, always wanting praise for his own choices but rarely offering support to others.  In Pete's own words:  "I dont believe I can offer support, when everyone knows I believe that systemic chemo is killing them cycle by cycle and reducing whatever chance they have of an immune system response".

And he wrote the following statement in his public blog only a few days after Ren passed away, and it really bothered me that all he seemed to care about was that Ren didn't publicly praise him for recommending the treatments from that German clinic.  Well, gee, they didn't do Ren much good now, did they?!  So very sad for Ren. 

Per Pete’s Blog at http://petertrayhurn.blogspot.com/2013/12/dubia-gcmaf-conference-2-smartest.html

“I guess I miss public recognition, after all the effort I put into helping so many friends, its a little like my dear friend Ren, almost every therapy and doctor he used was based on my recommendation and introductions to many doctors. again I expected thanks in public. My need for recognition i guess is futile, well thats how it feels”

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he just got done hijacking a memorial thread at the Colon Club.  A son posted there about his mother's death, and her terrible experience at the Hallwang Clinic.  Pete, who is such a lovely guy, popped on to talk about how awesome Hallwang is, and how great he personally is doing.  He didn't bother to even respond to the OP, who had this to say to Pete:

"If your experiences at that clinic were a success, good for you. You were one of the lucky ones. But here in the United States we don’t just give medicine to people that have stage 4 cancer unless they willing fully agree to be enrolled into a clinical trial with a moderate to sufficient amount of data on said medication. 

So please keep your clinic endorsements to yourself and show some respect."

This is the kind of person we want on this board?

http://coloncancersupport.colonclub.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=46233&start=15

 

There's also a very interesting response to Pete from user Maia, in a seperate thread.  She is incredibly smart, and has been the source of the clinical trials info I've posted here.  She has an amazing overview of why Hallwang is essentially a scam.  It's a fascinating read from someone with a lot of medical expertise.  She also has the link to Pete's "financial disclosure" post.

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Thank you for the link, AA. 

Poor Pete! Looks like he spreads dissention wherever he goes. 

Indeed, Maia seem like a very knowlegble person. Very interesting reading her posts. 

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His posts were def hard to read, but dude is not ESL.

LindaK.
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I guess the spelling and grammar made me feel his first language was not English!  It is difficult for me to follow his posts, my take is sometimes he says he is cured and then talks about new test findings and treatments.  I can ignore him, but just don't like his rude comments.  I read the post on CC he rudely commented on.  What a sad story that poor young man shared.  I think he was brave to share all the details of his mother's visit and her quick decline after spending 2 months at Hallwag.

Linda

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Well I have to change my opinion.  Did he really call people names?  I had no idea.  When all of this was going on I was recovering from surgery so I missed what actually happened.  I posted my comment before I read yours.  I don't so much have a problem with the influencing as I never really bothered to read what he was posting except about his progress but resorting to calling people names because you disagree with them is just plain not nice as a human being. 

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I took my comment off after reading more on the subject.  Calling someone a heroine addict is extreme.  However, I will leave up that I have absolutely no problem with people praying or posting Bible verses.  I'm not a religious person but I do respect that others who are should get support on here. 

janderson1964
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I am sorry for bringing this up. I didnt mean to stir up past hurful comments and emotions. You know I love you all and never meant any harm.

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I think this is a very healthy discussion.  We all care to check on each other, including Pete and so it is good to express thoughts and feelings about banning and posts.

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I like Pete and don't think he should be banned. I admire him for focusing all his energies and efforts on survival, and trying so many new things.    I've tried to read his blog and have struggled due to his writing.  He's probably dyslexic or something.

As far as him being a shill for Hallwang, when/where did he disclose this? Not on CSN. I thought his "job" in Germany had to do with that yogurt?  Regardless, even when someone posts a link to any cure or solution, it's on us individually to do our own research.  Not everything works for everybody.  If something was really a miracle cure, I think the "marketplace" would ensure that it was available everywhere, based on the premise that "a good product sells. "  My godfather is/was German, and he went to a small clinic in Germany for treatment- not Hallwang but another one. He had prostate cancer, and I think he was like 90. It's cultural - he got mistletoe injections, hyperthermia and other therapies.  I don't know if it did him any good but he was happy, I guess, and believed in it. I've written to people about alternative treatments, even Ren and Pete, and nobody gave me a hard sell.

For those of us stage IVs, especially inoperable multiple met Stage IVs, treatment is a real long shot. I wish he weren't banned because he might stumble upon something really revolutionary, and since this is the board I check the most, I'd here about it here.

Karin

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and if you search his posts at the Colon Club, he disclosed this fact in one of his more recent posts there.

I don't make stuff up.

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Pete talks about it openly on his blog.   He says that the admins asked him to abide by the rules here, and he apparently felt he could not do so.  He could be unbanned in a second, I imagine, if he just agreed to their rules.

I mean, this site is free to us, and owned by the ACS.  If we don't like the rules, there are other forums with different rules.

And I have to say that I really can't believe that here we have a member calling others names, harrassing them for their tx choices, showing a distinct lack of compassion to many here, and ultimately posting here in a false fashion, as a salesperson as much as a patient, and the answer is "just don't read his posts"?  Given that a person who is trying to sell something has no incentive to be upfront about the reality of his product, that response seems pretty inadequate to me.

If the mods were to allow all of this, I can't imagine what would be considered "unacceptable" behavior. 

It's such a clear violation of the TOS to which we all agreed that I can't see what else the mods could have done, although I understand the people who are saying they like Pete personally.  I liked Devotion10, and she too was banned.  She was philosophical about it, and I am too.  It's just a internet forum.  If you agree to the rules, you can post; if not...

Anyway, Jeff, I think it's good to air things like this, myself, so thanks for bringing it up.

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I think we are all posting in an uplifting manner. Nobody has belittled Pete, in spite of our dislike for some of his attacks, rants, or questionable information. Like Helen said, we're all adutls. 

Also, Karin's post proves that there are people here who enjoy Pete's threads; and I'm sure she is not alone. 

I am still sorry that he has made personal attacks, and chosen his words unwisely, but if it is therapeutic for him to post, then maybe he should be allowed to do so. 

I am happy to hear that Pete is plodding on with his chosen treatments.  I wish him all the luck in the world.

 

 

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I would rather that CSN allow pete to blog - with some disclosure about his employment at the clinic and benefits he receives - like how docs who put up research papers need disclosures about which pharma giant they are supported by financially - in which ever way they may be.....( consultant / advisor etc ) 

we all know that pete is trying some thing or another that is offered on the allternative ( not main stream NCN approved) path to recovery .... Who knows who may benefit from what ? May be his way is also some type of uncontrolled random study that we may benefit from ( many of us may be those who have been given no conventional options ).

like some persons who also may see a faith healer.

Then again if they / we may end up trying something that pete has tried. Some with success and some may be unfortunate not have any effect. Atleast we have some half baked evidence about we are  trying,  that too " human" - not something that has been successful on a rat or a pig.

 I would say please allow him again on CSN.  The newbies may also consider what he may have to suggest ( sell ? ) , and they can take their own call...maybe a disclosure by Pete can help , so that we can make informed decisions.

We all try various things - supplements based on the advise we get from fellow travellers and also " dr oz's from lala land " who only recommend ( but have never faced the disease and have no first hand experience - which certainly pete has ).  But somehow these advisors have the statistics and the science ...how do they get that and recommend? ( have they tried on themselves ? Any clinical random data over the years ? ).

then why do we all take those words as gospel and spend millions on supplements ?  We do that because we are led to believe that some mice and pigs have responded in some lab on a controlled and paid for tests .

And at the same time try and block PETE FROM HAVING HIS SAY.

PETE - Who uses his own disease and body to take the drugs and later inform the outcome ? 

How is this fair ! How are we fair to ourselves ? We Look and follow studies and take drugs which someone says works on mice. However , when pete after trying it himself .... We doubt What he has to say ? However, If we do doubt we don't need to follow it  - do we ?

 why are we all seeking clinical trials when we are given no conventional option?  When these trails are sponsored and based on animal studies etc ... Who knows what manipulation may have occurred in the data which may have led to the trial - since mice can't talk and pigs can't fly !

But , hey if pete suggests and he survives but someone else doesn't. Is that reasonable to block  pete and his meandering thoughts he wants to share ? Is there some logic to CSN ?

Will they block me if I keep referring to success  ( post links ) of xyz drugs and therapies tried on mice , pigs etc ... And which are sponsored in millions by the pharmaceuticals and they make zillions out of it ? 

then please pray explain why peter tray hurn not required to be heard ( it is our choice to listen and act ) on this forum? Maybe CSN CAN ALSO choose to make its own disclosure - about financial sources and personal tie ups within the same industry ! 

Now will CSN block me for these personal views on peter tray hurn And the views I express above ? 

Please also note. - i have been treated in Germany for past two years but not once tried any recommendation that peter has tried - doesn't mean if one day when I think something he has tried appeals to my sense and situation I may not try . Probably I may seek it out - atleast it would be a informed or calculated risk. Atleast,  when I have taken drugs which seem to have worked on pigs  and mice and I have never heard  them complain, Then what is wrong In hearing pete and why CSN thinks they should block his views on treatment - personal onslaughts by pete  may just be a result of the " chemo brain". When  we discuss that effect and try to acknowledge it exists why we can't give someone the leeway that it may have effected ! 

Disclosure - 

I think  I may have made a better case for pete than I originally cared when I started to write - pl understand I have been to germany many times - got conventional treatments - never been to hallwamg - never communicated with any of the docs there - and have no discount at present or in future towards any treatment - I would rather pay 200% on a firm treatment theN Try to take a discount on a " being tested " treatment - FOR THAT SACRIFICE I LOVE PETE ( just kidding - a chemo brain humor ! ) 

 

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Has anyone noticed that just mentioning Pete has caused a lot of animosity among our friends here today?  Things have been so calm and friendly since he's been gone...but now the soap opera drama returns!! Think about it, is this what we all want again!?  He's caused nothing but discourse and ill will on this board, so personally, I am glad that he was banned, and for good reason.  And right now he's out doing yoga and eating his miracle yogurt in Germany while we're arguing with each other - about HIM!  So I think he just got the last laugh folks...you know how much he loves to be the center of attention.

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   If you checked the date I joined you will see it was back in 2001. There have been many emotive events happening on the board during the subsequent years. Considering the aims of this board to help and support those suffering thru cancer I can only fully support the admiinistrators in the way they run the board. Their policies have been spelled out clearly and it is fairly obvious that no correspondence will be enterred into. I can accept that. Ron.

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Wow. Arguing, no, maybe different point of views anyway.  I don't follow Pete, never have never will. but I don't give my back to him. Maybe we need another board for crazy terminal cancer patient.

  

I just saw your response Tina, sorry you went through that, some people are very insensitive when they are dying.   When ever is there excuse for meanness, really, never.  But my point is being missed. I follow The Lord. Forgiveness. That's it.  

 

 

Done here., keep the faith...

 

 

 

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Pete has a blog, so it's not like he's being denied a voice. He also posts at the CC and at Colon Chat.  And if people want to, they could comment on his blog.  I do read it (because for a long time I liked Pete and was interested in the things he was trying), and I've never seen a comment there from any of his CSN supporters.  I don't really understand that.  If people really want interaction with Pete, that is the simplest way to achieve it without inflicting him on the rest of us.

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...their site ID-registration linking requirements are a little tedious and/or invasive.  If I want a byline, a burner pseudonym,  or linked/verified ID, our desired choices should be made easy for potential commenters.  I typically don't bother with anything that requires Google/Discus etc login.  Also conversation volume begets more volume to beget a real conversation.

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Tanstaafl, if you want to give easy responses to Pete, (as you said his blog doesn't allow ease), then go to ColonChat where you can find him easily and "talk" to him easily.  He doesn't have to be here for you to "chat" easily with him, there you can hear him be cured, then not cured, then cured, then not cured, then cured.  I don't think he can quite make up his mind as to let people know if he is cured by his German clinics, or that he isn't but darn near getting there because of his German clinics.  Then I saw he said he was cured of mets in lung and liver etc., but then writes on another post that he has a surgeon in Germany willing to take out his lungs mets.  You have to determine which is a lie and which is the truth, because I don't think Pete knows anymore at this point.

I feel sorry for him, I have since he went off the deep end and started calling us sheep and our oncologists as killers, I feel sorry for him, and more so, for his family, my heart aches for their hardships.

Winter Marie

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I am glad to see you posting, I think about you often and wish that the tx will work.  I admire your spunk and wish you well. Lori

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Thanks, Marie.  I was only answering Ann's thought about why people might not use the BlogSpot response features for Pete's blog.  One could also find his direct email and Skype easily enough. 

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Exacty. Quit copying and pasting his blog comments here. 

Going off CSN.  

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arrogant to me, but many people are like that. I just skipped past his posts and didn't read them. They were too confusing. When I first read his posts, I did see some of the negativity with chemo and thought it rather odd since many people on this site are fighting for their lives. 

 I do pray that he gets well and I hope his family is doing well and are able to handle all of this craziness.

I'm sorry that he hurt so many people on this site. I have found nothing but kindness from everyone here and I want to thank you all. There are aome days that I start losing hope for my brother and then I come here and am inspired by so many of you.

I wish you all good health and happiness.

Lin

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Thanks Lin. There have been a number of skeptic - CAM exchanges that drove posters away, en masse, and have severely damaged participation, silencing many, and have even damaged the archives of the Colorectal forum over the last 2-3 years with wide ranging deletions of valuable experience.  While some CAM posts might be insufficiently critical, over confident, prematurely confident, or abrasive, some "skeptical views" have been histrionics that had no science foundations and were manipulative or unfair in the extreme.  Some of the overt hostility and actions to nonstandard treatments are corrosive to the soul and likely to magnify differences, flaws and disagreements to those not destroyed outright or driven away.  Some new posters with real science backgrounds were assaulted and cut down from their first posts for exhibiting interest in foreign/experimental/unproven treatments.  

Pete's writing style was not my cup of tea either, and it got more strained with time.  I know that Pete is permanently gone here, but let me assure you, guilt is a many splendored thing.

...some of [Pete's] negativity with chemo...

Like many, Pete suffered liver damage and lingering side effects with FOLFOX.  Originally a stage III, he recurred and was very dissatisfied with the prior treatment, the treatment(s) offered (or not offered) and standard options.  No one likes to be written off, Pete struggled hard to find a way out of the corner to gain more time with less damage, and hope for a cure.  His journey, good and bad, is one more to consider when we make our choices and he gave us some rare views into previously unfamiliar places and treatments.     

I can only suggest that people reflect on their experiences and not  disrupt, interrupt or denigrate the choices and experience of others, lest it spiral out of civility and damage the collective wisdom here, again.  One can disagree civilly, factually and concisely without vituperation. Some of the long time survivors now silent, here much earlier than me, have commented how much of a hollow shell this CRC forum has become compared to 2-4 years ago.  We really need to heal and grow again.  That can only be done with respectful discourse on a long term basis, from the start.

 

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people come and go on these forums.  There are other places people post, or they move more into survivor category and don't feel like posting as much, or in some cases, they die, unfortunately.  Forums have ups and downs, just like groups in real life.  But right at the moment this forum feels largely pleasant and supportive...until Pete comes up in conversation.

And the issue with Pete has very little (if anything) to do with his treatment choices.  It was about his percieved lack of honesty, his unkindness, his lack of suppprt for others, and his efforts to sell unproven therapies in order to get his own at a discounted price.  But people have said this a million times, and the old "alt therapy vs conventionals" theme just keeps coming up.  it makes this whole conversation depressingly pointless.

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I just read his last two posts on his blog, well, attempted to read anyway.  My take is that he thinks anyone in treatment in the US are fools and CSN has been mean to him.  Why would he want to come back so badly?  He claims he wishes us well, but the next words are something like "you'll get yours in the end" to all of us he claims are criticizing him.

I'm sure none of us here wish bad things to anyone, but I think I'm done spending anymore time on him.

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Personnally I don't think people should be blocked for sharing their oppinions.  Although I would hope that people would be kind to others and try to look at things from others perspectives.

I also think some additional functionality would be useful on a site like this.  Like the "like" option.  And friend filters (e.g. ability to filter posts to prioritize my friend's posts.)  Maybe its time that this forum move to a more modern technology like facebook???? 

Uh oh, I hope i don't get banned for the above oppinion. :-)

Love to you all ALWAYS.

Phil

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RickMurtagh
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listening to people with accents is interesting (Pete is from Australia, no?)  and i would be all for it if this was an audio forum, but since it is not i have no opinion (about this subject).

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