Book that details how to cook to deal with side affects and loss of taste

angec
angec Member Posts: 924 Member

There's also a cook book for people in treatment, with great recipes which address specific side effects and gives options for how to flavor the food to appeal to the altered taste.  It's called "Cancer Fighting Kitchen Cookbook."

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  • Texas_wedge
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  • angec
    angec Member Posts: 924 Member

     
     
     

     

     

     

    Uh oh.. blank comments.. LOL

    Uh oh.. blank comments.. LOL

  • garym
    garym Member Posts: 1,647
    angec said:

    Uh oh.. blank comments.. LOL

    Uh oh.. blank comments.. LOL

    Hmmmmmm...

    Do they have a recipe for writers block?

  • GSRon
    GSRon Member Posts: 1,303 Member
    garym said:

    Hmmmmmm...

    Do they have a recipe for writers block?

    Very Interesting...

    This is the first time that the Wedge Master is speechless..!!  :)

  • Texas_wedge
    Texas_wedge Member Posts: 2,798
    GSRon said:

    Very Interesting...

    This is the first time that the Wedge Master is speechless..!!  :)

    Not really!

    There is an explanation guys!  There were messages there, but I was using the reply here to carry out some experiments at the behest of CSN.  I was confirming that in the s/w as it now is/was, a picture I tried to send (an illustration from the book Ange referred us to) and a Smiley elicited error messages.  I've been helping test the current position.

    I reported the current performance problems a while ago and Alice and Michael have also done so, since then.  I think any more reports or complaints now will only be counter-productive.

    The essence of the problem, as I speculated, is, once again, spam attacks.  The CSN team is having to jump through hoops (also handicapped by illness) to find further ways to beat off the spammers.   (How I long to see some jail sentences for some of those creeps!).  The endeavours to shut out spamming, or at least minimise it, has inevitable knock-on effects, which some of us have experienced.   I've not had as bad an experience as most of you, due to being in a different time-zone, but I gather it's been pretty bad for some of you over there. 

    Anyway, don't blame CSN, blame the spammers who are able to exploit an open forum like CSN in ways they can't with more private forums like Smart Patients.

    Is that enough speechifying from me, Ron?!

  • GSRon
    GSRon Member Posts: 1,303 Member

    Not really!

    There is an explanation guys!  There were messages there, but I was using the reply here to carry out some experiments at the behest of CSN.  I was confirming that in the s/w as it now is/was, a picture I tried to send (an illustration from the book Ange referred us to) and a Smiley elicited error messages.  I've been helping test the current position.

    I reported the current performance problems a while ago and Alice and Michael have also done so, since then.  I think any more reports or complaints now will only be counter-productive.

    The essence of the problem, as I speculated, is, once again, spam attacks.  The CSN team is having to jump through hoops (also handicapped by illness) to find further ways to beat off the spammers.   (How I long to see some jail sentences for some of those creeps!).  The endeavours to shut out spamming, or at least minimise it, has inevitable knock-on effects, which some of us have experienced.   I've not had as bad an experience as most of you, due to being in a different time-zone, but I gather it's been pretty bad for some of you over there. 

    Anyway, don't blame CSN, blame the spammers who are able to exploit an open forum like CSN in ways they can't with more private forums like Smart Patients.

    Is that enough speechifying from me, Ron?!

    No...

    "Is that enough speechifying from me, Ron?!"    No, but it is a great start..!!  :)  Thanks for the explanation.!

    Ron

  • alice124
    alice124 Member Posts: 896 Member

    Not really!

    There is an explanation guys!  There were messages there, but I was using the reply here to carry out some experiments at the behest of CSN.  I was confirming that in the s/w as it now is/was, a picture I tried to send (an illustration from the book Ange referred us to) and a Smiley elicited error messages.  I've been helping test the current position.

    I reported the current performance problems a while ago and Alice and Michael have also done so, since then.  I think any more reports or complaints now will only be counter-productive.

    The essence of the problem, as I speculated, is, once again, spam attacks.  The CSN team is having to jump through hoops (also handicapped by illness) to find further ways to beat off the spammers.   (How I long to see some jail sentences for some of those creeps!).  The endeavours to shut out spamming, or at least minimise it, has inevitable knock-on effects, which some of us have experienced.   I've not had as bad an experience as most of you, due to being in a different time-zone, but I gather it's been pretty bad for some of you over there. 

    Anyway, don't blame CSN, blame the spammers who are able to exploit an open forum like CSN in ways they can't with more private forums like Smart Patients.

    Is that enough speechifying from me, Ron?!

    Considering we have to

    Considering we have to register (at both sites -- CSN and SmartPatients) and have to login with user name and password to post, what's the difference? Not sure I understand one site having that much more difficulty????

  • Texas_wedge
    Texas_wedge Member Posts: 2,798
    alice124 said:

    Considering we have to

    Considering we have to register (at both sites -- CSN and SmartPatients) and have to login with user name and password to post, what's the difference? Not sure I understand one site having that much more difficulty????

    Spam vulnerability

    That's understandable, Alice, because of all that we don't see as mere end-users.  One of the key elements of good software is to be as easy to use as possible for its customers while hiding all the complexity of its workings and anything that might get in the user's way.

    If you Google, e.g. Smart Patients, you'll find it, but that doesn't mean you can just go ahead and use it straightaway.  There, as with here, you need to join.  This is where the difference comes in. 

    With Smart Patients there are unobtrusive procedures that don't occur with CSN, to vet applicants for membership.  Think of these by whatever metaphor you like - e.g. filter, firewall, safety barrier, or whatever.  This enables the SP team to make every effort to keep undesirables like spammers out.  CSN, per contra, has a policy of being fully open.  This is very commendable but comes at a price of greater vulnerability to all kinds of nasties. 

    It's a great shame that it's so inordinately difficult to deal with these ne'er-do-wells (which is why, as Ange remarks with a giggle,  I want to see some of them 'sent up the river'!).  Until the security experts find more effective ways to combat the attacks, CSN and similar open sites, will continue to have to waste valuable resources that they would like to spend on performance improvement and adding further facilities on picking up the pieces all the time and trying to anticipate and block these pieces of ---- who (or their bots) keep wrecking things for us.

     

  • GSRon
    GSRon Member Posts: 1,303 Member

    Spam vulnerability

    That's understandable, Alice, because of all that we don't see as mere end-users.  One of the key elements of good software is to be as easy to use as possible for its customers while hiding all the complexity of its workings and anything that might get in the user's way.

    If you Google, e.g. Smart Patients, you'll find it, but that doesn't mean you can just go ahead and use it straightaway.  There, as with here, you need to join.  This is where the difference comes in. 

    With Smart Patients there are unobtrusive procedures that don't occur with CSN, to vet applicants for membership.  Think of these by whatever metaphor you like - e.g. filter, firewall, safety barrier, or whatever.  This enables the SP team to make every effort to keep undesirables like spammers out.  CSN, per contra, has a policy of being fully open.  This is very commendable but comes at a price of greater vulnerability to all kinds of nasties. 

    It's a great shame that it's so inordinately difficult to deal with these ne'er-do-wells (which is why, as Ange remarks with a giggle,  I want to see some of them 'sent up the river'!).  Until the security experts find more effective ways to combat the attacks, CSN and similar open sites, will continue to have to waste valuable resources that they would like to spend on performance improvement and adding further facilities on picking up the pieces all the time and trying to anticipate and block these pieces of ---- who (or their bots) keep wrecking things for us.

     

    I don't eat spam

    OK, thank you T.W..!  That was an awesome explanation... I learned something..!!  

    Be Well All..!!

    Ron :)

  • angec
    angec Member Posts: 924 Member

    Spam vulnerability

    That's understandable, Alice, because of all that we don't see as mere end-users.  One of the key elements of good software is to be as easy to use as possible for its customers while hiding all the complexity of its workings and anything that might get in the user's way.

    If you Google, e.g. Smart Patients, you'll find it, but that doesn't mean you can just go ahead and use it straightaway.  There, as with here, you need to join.  This is where the difference comes in. 

    With Smart Patients there are unobtrusive procedures that don't occur with CSN, to vet applicants for membership.  Think of these by whatever metaphor you like - e.g. filter, firewall, safety barrier, or whatever.  This enables the SP team to make every effort to keep undesirables like spammers out.  CSN, per contra, has a policy of being fully open.  This is very commendable but comes at a price of greater vulnerability to all kinds of nasties. 

    It's a great shame that it's so inordinately difficult to deal with these ne'er-do-wells (which is why, as Ange remarks with a giggle,  I want to see some of them 'sent up the river'!).  Until the security experts find more effective ways to combat the attacks, CSN and similar open sites, will continue to have to waste valuable resources that they would like to spend on performance improvement and adding further facilities on picking up the pieces all the time and trying to anticipate and block these pieces of ---- who (or their bots) keep wrecking things for us.

     

    Tee hee!... and by the way..

    Tee hee!... and by the way.. any one know about this book?  LOL

  • alice124
    alice124 Member Posts: 896 Member

    Spam vulnerability

    That's understandable, Alice, because of all that we don't see as mere end-users.  One of the key elements of good software is to be as easy to use as possible for its customers while hiding all the complexity of its workings and anything that might get in the user's way.

    If you Google, e.g. Smart Patients, you'll find it, but that doesn't mean you can just go ahead and use it straightaway.  There, as with here, you need to join.  This is where the difference comes in. 

    With Smart Patients there are unobtrusive procedures that don't occur with CSN, to vet applicants for membership.  Think of these by whatever metaphor you like - e.g. filter, firewall, safety barrier, or whatever.  This enables the SP team to make every effort to keep undesirables like spammers out.  CSN, per contra, has a policy of being fully open.  This is very commendable but comes at a price of greater vulnerability to all kinds of nasties. 

    It's a great shame that it's so inordinately difficult to deal with these ne'er-do-wells (which is why, as Ange remarks with a giggle,  I want to see some of them 'sent up the river'!).  Until the security experts find more effective ways to combat the attacks, CSN and similar open sites, will continue to have to waste valuable resources that they would like to spend on performance improvement and adding further facilities on picking up the pieces all the time and trying to anticipate and block these pieces of ---- who (or their bots) keep wrecking things for us.

     

    Now I understand!

    Thanks TW for the explanation. Makes perfect sense now.  End user be me!

  • anmazon
    anmazon Member Posts: 144
    cookbook

    Hi, 

    To the best of my knowledge, my cancer was taken care of surgically, and there will be no need for meds or anything of that nature.  So my primary concern has  been controlling sodium and protein per my doc's instructions.

    His suggestion was to research renal diets and find recipes and dietary guidelines thus.  I ultimately purchased "Cooking for David: A Renal Dialysis Cookbook," which is "a collection of recipes that combine appropriate dietary with good taste for use by dialysis patients."

    Again, this addresses the kidney side of things more than the cancer side of things. It is probably not what you have in mind, but seems to be a pretty good cookbook filled with healthy recipes.

    Of course, the irony of this is that I'm a terrible cook, and couldn't begin to tell you if anything tastes good.

    Warmest regards.

    Anne

  • angec
    angec Member Posts: 924 Member
    anmazon said:

    cookbook

    Hi, 

    To the best of my knowledge, my cancer was taken care of surgically, and there will be no need for meds or anything of that nature.  So my primary concern has  been controlling sodium and protein per my doc's instructions.

    His suggestion was to research renal diets and find recipes and dietary guidelines thus.  I ultimately purchased "Cooking for David: A Renal Dialysis Cookbook," which is "a collection of recipes that combine appropriate dietary with good taste for use by dialysis patients."

    Again, this addresses the kidney side of things more than the cancer side of things. It is probably not what you have in mind, but seems to be a pretty good cookbook filled with healthy recipes.

    Of course, the irony of this is that I'm a terrible cook, and couldn't begin to tell you if anything tastes good.

    Warmest regards.

    Anne

    Actually Anmazon that cook

    Actually Anmazon that cook book sounds like a pretty good idea!  We do have to be careful not to overload the kidney with salt/sugar/protein.   I am going to check it out and see about some ideas for mom! Thanks for adding that!  Many folks see a nutritionist after they are diagnosed with cancer.  Glad to hear that surgery is the cure for you!  Way to go!!!

  • anmazon
    anmazon Member Posts: 144
    angec said:

    Actually Anmazon that cook

    Actually Anmazon that cook book sounds like a pretty good idea!  We do have to be careful not to overload the kidney with salt/sugar/protein.   I am going to check it out and see about some ideas for mom! Thanks for adding that!  Many folks see a nutritionist after they are diagnosed with cancer.  Glad to hear that surgery is the cure for you!  Way to go!!!

    sweet!

    Thank you, angec,

    It was about $30 including shipping, but it's a great little cookbook--there are dietary guidelines, suggested meal plans, and it is in a binder format, so you can add pages (they post new recipes on their website fairly often).

    I could be going Pollyanna on y'all, but I don't get the impression that further intervention will be required (just scheduled bloodwork and scans). Thank God it was "only" Stage II!

    Anne