FOLFOX- how many treatments did you make it through? Lasting symptoms?

I just had Folfox #5 today and vomited while there. That was the first time this happened. I usually get sick on disconnect day. So I wanted to know how many people make it through all 12 treatments? What symptoms did you have and are still lasting? Did you stop treatments and did your onc agree with it? What stage were you? What was the hardest part for you? Did you get a CT scan and CEA level after 3 months and how long until next one? I know everyone is different and tolerate it different but it's nice to see how other people get through it. If you finished Folfox did you have a reccurrance after having clean scans?
Sandy:)
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  • abrub
    abrub Member Posts: 2,174 Member
    I quit after 7 treatments
    But I had been told that they didn't know nor would they ever know if the Folfox would benefit me. If/when my cancer comes back, they will not be able to say it was delayed by the Folox; if it never comes back they won't be able to attribute that to the Folfox either. My onc was very clear about the uncertainty of efficacy of Folfox for my cancer (metastatic mucinous adenocarcinoma of the appendix; Stage IV, but no lymph nodes involved.)

    Side effects were extreme for me (neuropathy, hand-foot syndrome, first bite syndrome, and a blindingly painful anal fissure that I was told would not heal until after I was done with chemo.) I decided that the known problems were not worth the unknown benefit, and chose to discontinue.

    4 years later, I still have some residual neuropathy, tho it only has minimal impact on my life.

    However, Folfox is known to be effective against colon cancer. If my cancer had been different, I might have struggled through one or 2 more rounds.
  • SharonVegas
    SharonVegas Member Posts: 189
    I had 8 treatments of
    I had 8 treatments of FolFox6 + Avastin and then 5 weeks radiation. Unfortunately, the FolFox didn't help me as much as the onc had hoped, but everyone is different. It was a tough ride. I was tired most of the time and only managed to work part-time. Slept til noon many days. I remember the nausea and vomiting. And yes, the neuropathy set in pretty quickly. I still feel it a bit in my feet a year later. It is managable though - the neuropathy I mean. I think I had mouth sores and gum bleeding as well. It's definitely no picnic. I'm praying for you and sending good vibes your way. Hang in there.
    SharonVegas
  • Jaylo969
    Jaylo969 Member Posts: 824 Member
    Folfox
    Hi Sandy,

    I was staged as stage II A/B ( whatever that means?) I made it through only 5 treatments with Folfox and my onc said "No more!" The neuropthy in my feet, hands and arms was very severe.It started with the 3rd treatment and by the 5th I was walking with a walker. She then had me on Xeloda only and that lasted through 4 more treatments at which time my feet, that were already numb, started turning various odd colors and cracked and bled. I also was having nosebleeds. My onc decided that 9 treatments of some kind of chemo was enough. I was disappointed but I agreed that my body could take no more, especially since I was only stage II.

    During chemo my worst symptoms were horrendous fatigue and neuropathy. I also had some vision problems which corrected itself a few months after stopping chemo. My teeth were in excellent condition one week prior to surgery.I have since had to have 9 crowns and my dentist says it was absolutely the chemo that caused the damage.I do have residual effects from the chemo over 2 yrs later. I still have neuropathy, I am still fighting fatigue, I have chemobrain.

    I am almost 3 years out from diagnosis and surgery and finished my chemo in May of 2010.I had 3 month check-ups for the first year, the went to every 6 months up until the present. I have had 4 clear CT scans since finishing chemo and 1 MRI. I am due a PET/CT next week...never had a PET before, so I am anxious.

    I see on your bio that you are staged as IV so your situation would be different, especially having the option to quit chemo with your oncs blessing.I hope that you have been given anti nausea meds? If not, ask for some and take them before you go for chemo.If it doesn't work ask for another kind. There are several out there...some work better and faster than others.

    Good luck and good wishes for you.
    -Pat
  • wmcbane
    wmcbane Member Posts: 33
    Sorry you are having hard
    Sorry you are having hard time of it. I got through all 12 tx, 4 before surgery, 8 after. Last tx sept. 2010. I'm about your age, dx with stage iv with 1 met to liver. Have been NED since surgery. Are you on Zofran for nausea? It worked for me. I also took alpha lipoic acid, a supplement supposed to help with neuropathy. I had mostly tingling and numbness, unpleasant but not debilitating. I did have to get the shot of neulasta after each tx, starting about halfway through due to low WBC counts. I was fatigued/spent a lot of time resting, especially in days right after. Had really dry nasal passages, too, so had a vaporizer. Everything got worse toward the end, with same issues to greater severity. I hated the neuropathy and the pump by disconnect day. Neuropathy eventually cleared up after tx stopped. you hang in there. You're nearly halfway done.
  • herdizziness
    herdizziness Member Posts: 3,624 Member
    Sandy
    You should ask your doctor to do your CEA monthly when you go in for treatment. When on my chemo, I had my CEA taken and the results every month. This way you know if your CEA is a good factor for you (mine is)but you can't get upset over every rise point (when I was NED it would go up a point or two, then back down a point or two)but the reason for the CEA is to see if it's going up 5, 8 or more points up. Plus if it's staying steady or just rising a point or two it helps with knowing that your chemo is working while waiting that time in between. My CEA has been good marker for me, I didn't go in for July CEA although I was supposed to, I went in August instead, I'm regretting that transgression just a wee bit. They should be taking blood looking at potassium counts, etc., anyway, what's a little extra vial???
    Hope your nausea was just a one time deal.
    Winter Marie
  • PatchAdams
    PatchAdams Member Posts: 271
    Completed all 12
    I finished all 12 about 3 1/2 years ago and still have neuropathy. I was Stage IIIB but am now Stage IVa because of a small liver met I had surgically removed early this year.

    The liver met developed from a very tiny spot viewed on my CT at original dx. It didn't change for over 3 years.
  • toyfox
    toyfox Member Posts: 158 Member
    Finished all 12 weeks
    Finished all 12 weeks a year ago.
    He was staged 3B.
    The chemo had to be reduced several times due to heart pain.
    No problems with nausea or diarrhea.
    We feel that change of diet and excercise made a difference
    with side effects.
    He still has some neuropathy in his fingers and feet.
    He just had his 3 month lab work....cea normal....still ned.
    Take care....linda
  • marbleotis
    marbleotis Member Posts: 720 Member
    Had 12 treatments
    Sandy,

    I am a stage 3b with 3 nodes and no mets. I had 12 treatments (Oxali with 5FU from March 7, 2012 - August 23,2012). My scans are on 9/18/12, then every 6 months for first 3 years and the repeat colonoscopy in Jan 2013, then yearly. I feel fortunate because I started with clean scans taken before the actual Dx.

    My side effects - on disconnect day TIRED. Because I could not sleep while connected (??). Diarrhea for 2 or 3 days after disconnect. Pills helped with that. I also lost 60 pounds in total. Neurpoathy hands, feet, lips, teeth and tongue. Hopefully that will improve.

    CEA with cancer was a 7 then three months later while in chemo was 0.08. Onc will do CEA monthly to start then every three months.

    I did not stop treatment but was delayed one week on #8 because platetlets were low. They came back nicely.

    Now I focus on the Wellness program offerred free from the Hospital (8 weeks of monitored exercise and yoga and Nutritional guidance from a RD who specializes in cancer patients)

    Each day I have a little more energy. I tried to clean the whole house today and finished half (that's ok).

    If you can get through 5.....trust me you can get through to 12. There were times I was so tired I felt out of my mind, but slowly you come back.

    I focus on all the things I love doing and how I can reach out and help others that this horrible cancer has touched.
  • RickMurtagh
    RickMurtagh Member Posts: 587 Member
    treatments
    I had 11 treatments. Neuropathy, tanking blood numbers and general fatigue really took its toll on me the last few treatments. My onc was a researcher and showed me on a research site, what the difference was between 11 and 12 treatments - less than 2% stat-wise. I gave up that 2% for a much better quality of life, not sure how bad things would have gotten with that last treatment, but I am glad I never got to fin out.
    So far no recurrence, just recover.
  • YoVita
    YoVita Member Posts: 590 Member
    My Folfox adventure
    I'm a rectal cancer survivor, stage 3C, so my Folfox treatment was a bit different. 4 treatments of Folfox followed by radiation and chemo and ending with 4 more treatments of Folfox. I had all the side effects and loss of hair (which my oncologist said wouldn't happen). Neuropathy is the one still with me but it's livable. I also had mouth sores, nausea (treated successfully with medicine), cold discomfort, bad metallic taste from food and others I've blocked. The mouthsores and neuropathy were the worst for me. My oncologist stopped my treatment because of those two. I did not have the final Folfox treatment. I had clean scans for the first 2 1/2 years following treatment. Just recently had a lung nodule appear in my most recent ct and petscan. It was removed with clean margins. I do believe the Folfox, though wretched, gave me 2 1/2 years to live life and see my son meet his special love. They'll be married a year from now. I'm planning on sticking around for their wedding. Folfox is tough - no doubt about it. Good luck to you.
  • Maxiecat
    Maxiecat Member Posts: 544 Member
    I am one cycle behind
    I am one cycle behind you...I just had number 4 today. I have the fatigue, lack of appetite, some neuropathy, some diarrhea, and the mouth issues. I did throw up after treatment number 1... Thankfully I have not had that since. They are adding Neulasta on Thursday... My chemo was cancelled last week due to low WBC. I am not looking forward to the possibility of bone pain from the Neulasta ... I did get the Claritin ...which is supposed to help along with Tylenol and if needed Percocet.

    I had to ask for my Cea to be run last week...the number came back at .9 ...so that was good. I am hoping to make it thru all 12 treatments.. I am a IIIb with signet ring (which is aggressive) so I will do what I can to keep this at bay...even if it means having to deal with the side effects of the chemo. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers Sandy.

    Alex
  • dmj101
    dmj101 Member Posts: 527 Member
    12
    I made it thru all 2..
    I have neuropathy.. in hands and feet...
    It never made me sick but very tired..
    we discovered me CEA doesn't register...
    I had a pet scan and found mets in my lungs... thou my colon is clean and so are my lymph nodes.. hmmmm..
    If I had known the neuropathy gets worse after the treatments end.. I would have refused to take any more of it once I started to feel it..

    Speak to your dr...
  • Daffodil324
    Daffodil324 Member Posts: 59
    Finished all 12 treatments
    I was a stage IIIb diagnosed 3 years ago in August 2009. I had 12 Folfox treatments between September 2009 and early April 2010. A couple of treatments were delayed by a week due to low blood counts.

    Side effects I had were neuropathy in my fingers and feet, the first bite pain, and extreme fatigue on the day of disconnect and the day or two following that. Now, 3 years later, the neuropathy in my fingers is almost entirely gone (not even noticeable unless I think about it) and my feet are much, much better than they were, though there's still a little numbness in my toes and the pad of my foot behind the toes. Oddly I still occasionally get a slight touch of the first bite pain, but it's essentially gone. I never had issues with nausea or vomiting. I had medication for nausea with my infusion before the pump connect, and I had a bottle of prescription medication for nausea at home with strict instructions to take it immediately if I had even a hint of nausea. Once or twice I did take it and that was about it.

    The hardest part for me was the fatigue for the couple of days following disconnect. I really couldn't do much more than get in bed and sleep a lot.

    I have been lucky and haven't had any recurrance since completing treatment. All my scans, exams, and labwork have been good.
  • Doc_Hawk
    Doc_Hawk Member Posts: 685
    Not sure
    Folfox is 5FU, is that correct? I've sort of lost track a little bit, but think I'm currently on treatment 34. After infusion and getting my pump hooked up, I'm pretty weak and tired, very unsteady on my feet and a very thick fog in the head. After the pump comes out, it's a physical battle to stay awake long enough to get home. I'm Stage IV.
  • westie66
    westie66 Member Posts: 642
    Doc_Hawk said:

    Not sure
    Folfox is 5FU, is that correct? I've sort of lost track a little bit, but think I'm currently on treatment 34. After infusion and getting my pump hooked up, I'm pretty weak and tired, very unsteady on my feet and a very thick fog in the head. After the pump comes out, it's a physical battle to stay awake long enough to get home. I'm Stage IV.

    Fourteen Treatments
    Hi: I had 14 treatments of folfirinox (irenotecan + oxaliplatin + 5Fu pump) and made it through not too badly (lots of diarrhea and fatigue)until I ended up in the hospital with a perforated bowel (3 months in hospital). I can't resume that treatment because of the
    diarrhea issue. I am now having a bit of neuropathy in hands primarily.
    Cheryl
  • pluckey
    pluckey Member Posts: 484 Member
    I just ended chemo last
    I just ended chemo last week.
    I made it through 6 Folfox treatments. Had allergic reactions on #^ and &. So did #& and * without Oxi, just the ironotecean and 5fu pump. Major fatigue, blurry viion, chemo brain.

    My feet are wonky from neuropathy. No clue if it will last.

    Peggy
  • steved
    steved Member Posts: 834 Member
    pluckey said:

    I just ended chemo last
    I just ended chemo last week.
    I made it through 6 Folfox treatments. Had allergic reactions on #^ and &. So did #& and * without Oxi, just the ironotecean and 5fu pump. Major fatigue, blurry viion, chemo brain.

    My feet are wonky from neuropathy. No clue if it will last.

    Peggy

    Allergy to folfox
    I had a swollen tongue on oxaliplatin with xeloda and avastin and they thought that was probably an allergy to oxaliplatin so stopped it. Had 4 cycles with it and hated it- had it through a peripheral iv line (no port) so got arm pain really badly for several days and started to get the cold intolerance and neuropathy coming on so was pleased to be given an excuse to stop it. Some nausea and tiredness but still able to work full time and only once vomited at the chemo unit.

    We are all individual and no one can predict how you will fair.

    steve

    PS I think Peggy above 'had an allergic reaction on 6 and 7. So did 7 and 8 without oxi' if I interpret her problems with the shift key right.
  • Sundanceh
    Sundanceh Member Posts: 4,392 Member
    Doc_Hawk said:

    Not sure
    Folfox is 5FU, is that correct? I've sort of lost track a little bit, but think I'm currently on treatment 34. After infusion and getting my pump hooked up, I'm pretty weak and tired, very unsteady on my feet and a very thick fog in the head. After the pump comes out, it's a physical battle to stay awake long enough to get home. I'm Stage IV.

    Ray
    Folfox = Oxaliplatin / 5fu / Leucovorin
  • Sundanceh
    Sundanceh Member Posts: 4,392 Member
    steved said:

    Allergy to folfox
    I had a swollen tongue on oxaliplatin with xeloda and avastin and they thought that was probably an allergy to oxaliplatin so stopped it. Had 4 cycles with it and hated it- had it through a peripheral iv line (no port) so got arm pain really badly for several days and started to get the cold intolerance and neuropathy coming on so was pleased to be given an excuse to stop it. Some nausea and tiredness but still able to work full time and only once vomited at the chemo unit.

    We are all individual and no one can predict how you will fair.

    steve

    PS I think Peggy above 'had an allergic reaction on 6 and 7. So did 7 and 8 without oxi' if I interpret her problems with the shift key right.

    "8"
    Began to get to a point where the platelet levels were damaged with Oxy...part of a condition called ITP.

    Cycles began to move further and further out as platelets levels halved with each infusion...got down to the low 50's and would not climb...so we discontinued and we stayed with Xeloda and Avastin to finish out the protocol.

    Recurred...etc. etc.

    Mostly recovered from the neuropathy, but still some tingling in hands and feet.
  • Doc_Hawk
    Doc_Hawk Member Posts: 685
    Sundanceh said:

    Ray
    Folfox = Oxaliplatin / 5fu / Leucovorin

    Folfox
    Thanks, Craig. My first onc took me off of Oxaliplatin after about 12 treatments due to the neuropathy. I don't recall when I went off Leucovorin, no later than April 2010 though.