Does radiation treatment cause CEA levels to rise?

jmaddox915
jmaddox915 Member Posts: 80 Member
I am Stage IV and just finished number 13 out of 22 radiation treatments. I am also taking Xeloda during this time.

My CEA level has risen at least 10pts since last week.

I know alot of different things can cause a person's CEA level to rise. Does anyone know if radiation can cause it as well?

Comments

  • glinka65
    glinka65 Member Posts: 132
    ???
    i do not think so, hope all goes well with your treatments!!!!
  • have2believe
    have2believe Member Posts: 134
    may rise and then go down
    I know people who have had their CEA level rise from radiation, and then eventually it went down as there was diminishing evidence of disease.
  • steved
    steved Member Posts: 834 Member
    Cea
    There is loads written here about how poor cea is as a marker of disease for many people. There is also a theoretical idea that dying cancer cells, killed by the radiation, may also leak cea so lead to a increase before it drops? Don't read too much into at this stage and take your rain the context of how you feel symptomatic ally and what the scans are showing.

    Steve
  • fatbob2010
    fatbob2010 Member Posts: 467 Member
    CEA Rising?
    I have been told the same thing about dying cells and rising CEA. I am not a real fan of CEA even though it is used as an indicator. However, CEA can be a trigger for possibly earlier scans and treatment option discussions. Art
  • John23
    John23 Member Posts: 2,122 Member
    (CEA) Monitoring of Radiation Therapy


    Re:
    "Does radiation treatment cause CEA levels to rise?"

    You'll find that it does both after radiation "treatments".


    (CEA) Monitoring of Radiation Therapy

    Rebound in CEA Production

    The decline in CEA level with increasing dose of irradiation
    was of limited duration. Patients 6, 1 0, and 1 2 regained
    their pretreatment levels 6-8 weeks after completion
    of therapy. If, indeed, serial CEA titers monitor changes in
    the mass of viable tumor, the maximum delay before proceeding
    with surgery after preoperative radiation therapy
    may be 2 months. This may be the time when there is
    maximum reduction of viable tumor tissue and when there
    is the least likelihood to disseminate viable tumor cells with
    surgicaltrauma [7].

    This rebound in CEA production strongly suggests that
    the initial decline in serial CEA titers does not correlate
    with long term disease control. Only persistently low CEA
    levels, as seen in patient 1 1 after a curative dose of irradiation
    or in patients 4, 5, and 1 0 after preoperative irradiation
    plus complete surgical resection, suggests continued
    disease control.

    Need for Caution

    Patient management decisions based on serial CEA
    levels must be made cautiously and only in conjunction
    with other clinical, laboratory, and radiological parameters
    since false positive or false negative results can occur in a
    number of clinical situations [4]. For example, patients 9,
    15, and 16 had negative CEA values despite recurrent or
    metastatic disease. Patient 9 presented an unusual but not
    unique serial CEA pattern. The primary tumor produced a
    significant circulating CEA level which fell to normal after
    control of the primary tumor by radiation therapy and
    after surgery failed to produce elevated circulating CEA
    levels. Only 6 months later as metastases enlarged did CEA
    levels become elevated.

    Nontumor CEA elevation frequently found in cirrhosis,
    heavy smoking, or gastrointestinal inflammatory processes
    was not encountered in these patients. Definitive
    therapy of rectal cancer should not be based solely on CEA
    titers ; however, serial CEA titers may be useful as an adjunct
    to other clinical, laboratory, and radiologic data in
    formulating patient management decisions.

    Credit: http://www.ajronline.org/content/127/4/641.full.pdf

    Best wishes,

    John