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  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member
    Roselvr said:

    I'm surprised to see the
    I'm surprised to see the comments by you guys. I have not come here much since whatever happened to my other user name; which the mod can't answer. I was never warned for anything. I have no clue if I'm supposed to be banned or not- the mod did not see anything. The board was having issues that week; since they have no support here for stuff like that; who knows how many other people were affected? I don't post unless I feel I can contribute something & I posted to 2 threads before; the other about peg tubes.

    I participated on my other account; do you remember the list of questions for doctors? I brought over the questions I wrote when my hub was diagnosed & you guys helped me write a better version. One reason I didn't participate much here is because I had a bad injury back in September where I couldn't sit long. I'm disabled to begin with; I'm not "needed" here. If you go to CC; you know Gardasil is not my only interest. Being disabled & in pain; I count on email replies to remind me where I have posted. I post on CC & Inspire as well as a few FB boards; then I have noncancer interests. There are a lot of knowledgeable people here to begin with; I send a LOT of people here via PM at CC because I actually prefer the help you guys give compared to some members there. You give helpful advice which is what they need. I stopped in today to grab Dawn's super thread link for the person at CC with the post titled surgery with no primary. I give the link to everyone that is new there. If you know CC; you know they moderate posts with links; everything is done via PM. Marine is familiar with me & my posts; message him & ask if Gardasil is the only thing I post to.

    As far as Gardasil; I scan the page- this post wasn't even about the vaccine- it's titled oral sex; which is something else I'm interested in reading because I have not found where they know it's caused by oral sex. I saw gardasil mentioned & wanted to give links for people to make their own mind up. I am not against the vaccine- I am against them giving it to people that should not have it. How do I know this? It was offered to MY daughter by 2 different doctors without asking specific questions. I told them I had to research it because that's what I do. We've all had our vaccines- my daughter did not have chicken pox vaccine because it had just come out in early 90's & I felt it was too new.

    I know people that have successfully gotten Gardasil with no side effects but I know a few that have side effects. I would never tell someone to run out & get any vaccine without looking it up.

    I don't even buy a coffee pot until I research it. I'm not putting any vaccines in my body before I read information. I was around toxic chemicals all of my life with my job (family business started helping at 11).. I was exposed to the same toxic chemicals that caused my dad's AML Leukemia.. so you're right; I'm a little picky about what I do now; even something as simple as a vaccine. Birth control freaks me out too; especially the depo since you're stuck for 3 months if your body rejects it. I just lost 3 weeks of my life due to Effexor antidepressant- which my hub took with no issues. My body is weird with medications; doesn't matter what it is. All I posted was for people to read as much info as they can. If I post to Gardasil again; I will tell them to google; which is what I started doing but felt I should post a few other links; like the 2 articles that you guys posted a few months ago. I will take out all of the information I posted; they can google. *Note- problem is that I feel like I'm being cold saying- gee; you have cancer; you don't have enough on your plate; so use google.

    And by the way... I'm actually interested in Gardasil for my husband; the oral cancer patient after seeing that some of you participated. I'm keeping my eyes on posts about that when I remember to come here

    Do not read any of this snotty because I'm not being snotty. Nothing is in all caps; I bolded a few words. I understand you guys don't know me because you don't go to CC & are not familiar with my posts.

    Edit- can't modify my posts because you guys reported it. Trust me; I will never post those links again

    Try Being A Little Open Minded...
    I have no problem at all if your approach is one of being open minded regardless of your own personal thoughts, comments or opinions. All of which you are entitled to express...

    My heartburn is the tone of the entire post which I have seen many times.

    To me it's not open minded, it seems (to me) as one of conspiracy theories, one sidedness, and leaves enough doubt that seems to be a scare tactic to force one to only see Gardasil as you.

    I'm neither PRO or CON concerning it, I just try to leave any treatments, methods and procedures up to the one considering. I mainly base my comments based from my own experiences and history, those of which I have personally endured.

    Do I have my own opinions and thoughts, of course. I also let those be known on heated topics. But I at least try to be open minded enough to not force anyone to my thinking and there are always options and special circumstances.

    You are totally correct in saying that people should research, and make their own informed and educated decisions on how they approach treatment/recovery.

    I flagged your post, not Charles...

    I apologise if I offended you.... I just don't like feeling that I'm having something shoved down my throat. That is how I feel everytime I see that post copy and pasted the numerous times that it has.

    John
  • Kent Cass
    Kent Cass Member Posts: 1,898 Member
    Skiffin16 said:

    Try Being A Little Open Minded...
    I have no problem at all if your approach is one of being open minded regardless of your own personal thoughts, comments or opinions. All of which you are entitled to express...

    My heartburn is the tone of the entire post which I have seen many times.

    To me it's not open minded, it seems (to me) as one of conspiracy theories, one sidedness, and leaves enough doubt that seems to be a scare tactic to force one to only see Gardasil as you.

    I'm neither PRO or CON concerning it, I just try to leave any treatments, methods and procedures up to the one considering. I mainly base my comments based from my own experiences and history, those of which I have personally endured.

    Do I have my own opinions and thoughts, of course. I also let those be known on heated topics. But I at least try to be open minded enough to not force anyone to my thinking and there are always options and special circumstances.

    You are totally correct in saying that people should research, and make their own informed and educated decisions on how they approach treatment/recovery.

    I flagged your post, not Charles...

    I apologise if I offended you.... I just don't like feeling that I'm having something shoved down my throat. That is how I feel everytime I see that post copy and pasted the numerous times that it has.

    John

    Roselvr
    I don't want to get involved in any ill feelings, and I think it's a very good thing that you refer people to this board for info and support. And, hope you continue to do so. I, personally, don't object to a subtle warning about side-effects, but one must keep it all in perspective.

    Thing is, medicine is an inexact science, and they deal in percentages of benefit, or the contrary. I see that Gardasil is believed to have lead to 4 deaths from adverse reactions, but for the vast majority there is no reported problem with side-effects. That's just the way it is with vaccines and medicines. Look at all the warnings on just about any medicine. Are all medicines off-limit? Not sure that'd be the right way to see things, you know. Lord knows what the poison that is chemo does to us, while it also stops the replication of C cells. It's called trade-offs, I reckon. And who among us would dare to go thru radiation treatment? There's news stories about the government warning against overuse of little old xrays amongst the young? And, it is known that the rad treatment, itself, can cause a secondary C down the road. When you compare the amount of rads we get in tx compared to just getting a couple xrays over a couple years- the comparison is so far off the charts different. And then add to that all the Pet Scans and CTs, post-tx.

    I am sorry if you've had a bad experience in your life with a vaccine, or med. Know it happens all the time, but the percentages make it acceptable. Just the way it is in an imperfect world.

    kcass
  • Irishgypsie
    Irishgypsie Member Posts: 333
    Kent Cass said:

    Roselvr
    I don't want to get involved in any ill feelings, and I think it's a very good thing that you refer people to this board for info and support. And, hope you continue to do so. I, personally, don't object to a subtle warning about side-effects, but one must keep it all in perspective.

    Thing is, medicine is an inexact science, and they deal in percentages of benefit, or the contrary. I see that Gardasil is believed to have lead to 4 deaths from adverse reactions, but for the vast majority there is no reported problem with side-effects. That's just the way it is with vaccines and medicines. Look at all the warnings on just about any medicine. Are all medicines off-limit? Not sure that'd be the right way to see things, you know. Lord knows what the poison that is chemo does to us, while it also stops the replication of C cells. It's called trade-offs, I reckon. And who among us would dare to go thru radiation treatment? There's news stories about the government warning against overuse of little old xrays amongst the young? And, it is known that the rad treatment, itself, can cause a secondary C down the road. When you compare the amount of rads we get in tx compared to just getting a couple xrays over a couple years- the comparison is so far off the charts different. And then add to that all the Pet Scans and CTs, post-tx.

    I am sorry if you've had a bad experience in your life with a vaccine, or med. Know it happens all the time, but the percentages make it acceptable. Just the way it is in an imperfect world.

    kcass

    1 of 6 cancer deaths worldwide caused by preventable infections!
    http://oralcancernews.org/wp/1-of-6-cancer-deaths-worldwide-caused-by-preventable-infections/

    Posted from the oral cancer foundation web-site!!
  • nwasen
    nwasen Member Posts: 235 Member

    1 of 6 cancer deaths worldwide caused by preventable infections!
    http://oralcancernews.org/wp/1-of-6-cancer-deaths-worldwide-caused-by-preventable-infections/

    Posted from the oral cancer foundation web-site!!

    Oral Sex
    My stage 4 cancer was caused from years of smoking (cigarettes) but also HPV was found in my cancer. So the good news was it gave me better survival chances.
    The bad news is the folks at the James who are all over head and neck cancer feel it is for sure on the rise and in a big way. If I had a young child, be it boy or girl, you can bet your booties they would be vaccinated.
    People having these fears about vaccinations are why some diseases that were thought to be long gone have reappeared.
    My mom had polio in the 40's and I shudder to think of anyone in these times having to endure what she went thru.
    Don't fall for some of the crap you read on the internet unless it comes from a reliable source!
    Peace, Nancy
  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member
    nwasen said:

    Oral Sex
    My stage 4 cancer was caused from years of smoking (cigarettes) but also HPV was found in my cancer. So the good news was it gave me better survival chances.
    The bad news is the folks at the James who are all over head and neck cancer feel it is for sure on the rise and in a big way. If I had a young child, be it boy or girl, you can bet your booties they would be vaccinated.
    People having these fears about vaccinations are why some diseases that were thought to be long gone have reappeared.
    My mom had polio in the 40's and I shudder to think of anyone in these times having to endure what she went thru.
    Don't fall for some of the crap you read on the internet unless it comes from a reliable source!
    Peace, Nancy

    Very Good Perspective...
    Especially on the re-appearance of diseases once vaccinated for, thought to be gone, now again on the rise.

    I've read numerous places that the thought concerning HPV derived H&N Cancer, will more than likely over take tobacco related H&N Cancer within the next ten years.

    Peace Out Nancy....

    ~JG
  • dsantor
    dsantor Member Posts: 19

    Good Subject!!
    This is a subject that unfortunately most people of the medical community and patients tend to ignore!! Instead they say don't smoke, don't drink alcohol anymore; they don't say don't have anymore oral sex!! Also,one that I have had trouble with from the beginning; since I'm single. (How do you meet someone and let alone tell them you are a cancer survivor and in addition, tell them you got this from a STD)??? :(

    This is why I stopped going to my support group because all the older people who didn't get tested for HPV and the clinicians don't want to talk about this subject!! :(

    Regardless of what we don't know the fact is it's a reality; though there isn't 100% certainty that this was caused by oral sex; all the research is leaning that way! I won't share my oral sex history, but as far as the research goes, I am definitley in the (more than 5 partners)high risk category!

    If this isn't caused by oral sex then why is HPV+ Oral Cancer low in african americans? From the african american men that I have made friends with over the years; they have mostly all stated that they don't partake in oral sex. Is this why there tumors are negative for HPV? who knows for sure, but it definitley makes sense!! In addition, those of you who are lucky to be in relationships; chances are if your spouse did have HPV; most likely there bodies cleared it like the rest of the majority of the population; so obviously the paps will be negative, but rememeber it's not just in the cervix; it can be on the genitals, hence vuvlar cancer, penile cancer etc!!! These areas are not tested in a PAP or male exam!!! In addition, people are not having there spouses oral cavities swabbed! Is HPV there? Afterall they performed oral sex as well most likely!! it's a viscious cycle, possibly being passed back and forth, like a viral ping-pong game :(!!! Maybe it's being spread from french kissing??? Who knows, but are we gonna stop kissing???? :(

    Yes we are unlucky at this cancer lottery; but like laralyn stated, "we are lucky it's HPV+) the bottom line is "life is short and you have to be happy"; we all know this too well being the ones on this side of the fence. I guess it just depends what you can live with. We can't say for certain if oral sex will continue to put us at risk; you can use a dental dam; but I know it's unnatural; I say go for it, life is short!!

    Yes, I have decided to get the vaccines; is this a waste of time? Who knows for sure, however some research is tending to show this may help with preventing HPV reaccurence, which can lead to cell dysplasia; which we know may lead to cancer reaccurence. In addition, Why get this?; because I believe that chances are if we are lucky enough to be alive 10,20,30 years from now an HPV outbreak is more than likely to reaccur again!!! :(


    This is such a good/Huge subject it probably should have a super thread of it's own!!!

    Charles

    I so agree with you!!!!!
    I

    I so agree with you!!!!!
    I recently was diagnosed with receurrent base of tongue cancer HPV related-- I had to travel from upstate new york to new york city for treatment, part of which consisted of a week in the hospital in isolation for brachytherapy treatment, before the city it was chemo and external radiation-- really sucked but i am optimistic that treatment helped. from what I understand from my radiation oncologist in NYC, HVP related head and neck cancer is now an epidemic in NYC!! This is a HUGE subject and definately deserves more recognition!!!!! I was also asked about the Gardasil injection after treatment, I am going to inquire when I go to the city for my follow up appointment.
  • DrMary
    DrMary Member Posts: 531 Member
    Skiffin16 said:

    Very Good Perspective...
    Especially on the re-appearance of diseases once vaccinated for, thought to be gone, now again on the rise.

    I've read numerous places that the thought concerning HPV derived H&N Cancer, will more than likely over take tobacco related H&N Cancer within the next ten years.

    Peace Out Nancy....

    ~JG

    Just happened to be at the OBGyn today
    He tested me last year for HPV - this involved collecting cervical tissues and looking for the active virus. He said that the virus can lay dormant for many years and then become active, and so testing "negative" does not mean you've not been exposed (we assume I have) or that it will not become active in the future - which is why I'll get Pap smears yearly and HPV tests every three years (forever, I guess).

    According to him, this is the schedule that is recommended for women who are known to have been exposed.

    Circling back to the original topic of oral sex - I don't think you can consider anyone who has been exposed but not currently testing positive to have "cleared" the virus. If it becomes active, it is because something in your system (stress seems to be one culprit) cause it to do so, not that you got re-infected. However, I think that is based on general knowledge of viruses and not on specific tests (how could you test that - it would take decades).

    Given the high numbers of people who have been exposed (my doctor suggested it could be over 80% of the population) work on how to prevent activation of the virus would seem useful.
  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member
    dsantor said:

    I so agree with you!!!!!
    I

    I so agree with you!!!!!
    I recently was diagnosed with receurrent base of tongue cancer HPV related-- I had to travel from upstate new york to new york city for treatment, part of which consisted of a week in the hospital in isolation for brachytherapy treatment, before the city it was chemo and external radiation-- really sucked but i am optimistic that treatment helped. from what I understand from my radiation oncologist in NYC, HVP related head and neck cancer is now an epidemic in NYC!! This is a HUGE subject and definately deserves more recognition!!!!! I was also asked about the Gardasil injection after treatment, I am going to inquire when I go to the city for my follow up appointment.

    Epidemic in NYC!!
    I believe statistics just has it as an epidemic in general.

    Studies show that it will overtake tobacco related H&N derived cancer within the next ten years or so...

    Like mentioned further down, it is believed that something like 75 - 80% of the population under 40 have been exposed.

    JG
  • CivilMatt
    CivilMatt Member Posts: 4,722 Member
    Oral what?
    Bkanter72

    After what I have read here and what my ENT went over with me I think I am hanging it all up and will be avoiding everyone. I was happier to believe I got the cancer from breathing in when I should have been breathing out, no such luck.

    My ENT told me about the increases in hpv+ HNC, about what he thought about the oral sex, vaccinating young kids, etc. I tell you, I don’t wish what I went through on anyone and if a vaccine (may) prevent it, then more power to the vaccine. Many vaccines do improve with continued research; I would hope that the powers to be use all available data to refine the vaccines to produce fewer side effects.

    Look at the difference between Tim6003 and myself, both using Erbitux with reactions 180 degrees apart. He got the heck kicked out of him and I only got punched in the stomach.

    Peace,

    Matt
  • tuffenuff
    tuffenuff Member Posts: 277
    I've asked two oncologists
    I've asked two oncologists (one is a gyn onc) if I should be concerned for my husbands health since I'm HPV+. Both have said things to the effect of don't worry about it, his body probably fought off the virus and it will be a nonissue. One also said most of us have contracted HPV by the time we reach high school. My husband says he doesn't care and whatever I've got, he will take. He may change his mind after seeing what I have to go through beginning this week.

    One thing that really caught me off guard... When I first met with my chemo doc he recommended I get tested for HIV since I've had now two HPV related cancers. I was very defensive, embarrassed, shocked at the notion. Of course, I said I would pass because who needs that kind of stress when you're already scheduled to start chemo/rads.
  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member
    tuffenuff said:

    I've asked two oncologists
    I've asked two oncologists (one is a gyn onc) if I should be concerned for my husbands health since I'm HPV+. Both have said things to the effect of don't worry about it, his body probably fought off the virus and it will be a nonissue. One also said most of us have contracted HPV by the time we reach high school. My husband says he doesn't care and whatever I've got, he will take. He may change his mind after seeing what I have to go through beginning this week.

    One thing that really caught me off guard... When I first met with my chemo doc he recommended I get tested for HIV since I've had now two HPV related cancers. I was very defensive, embarrassed, shocked at the notion. Of course, I said I would pass because who needs that kind of stress when you're already scheduled to start chemo/rads.

    HIV/HPV
    Your MD's are the first that I have ever heard relating HPV to HIV in any way....

    JG
  • tuffenuff
    tuffenuff Member Posts: 277
    Skiffin16 said:

    HIV/HPV
    Your MD's are the first that I have ever heard relating HPV to HIV in any way....

    JG

    he said something like "it's
    he said something like "it's not mandatory and there is no relation but you may want to consider..."

    other than that... i love him lol.
  • kingcole42005
    kingcole42005 Member Posts: 178
    Skiffin16 said:

    Try Being A Little Open Minded...
    I have no problem at all if your approach is one of being open minded regardless of your own personal thoughts, comments or opinions. All of which you are entitled to express...

    My heartburn is the tone of the entire post which I have seen many times.

    To me it's not open minded, it seems (to me) as one of conspiracy theories, one sidedness, and leaves enough doubt that seems to be a scare tactic to force one to only see Gardasil as you.

    I'm neither PRO or CON concerning it, I just try to leave any treatments, methods and procedures up to the one considering. I mainly base my comments based from my own experiences and history, those of which I have personally endured.

    Do I have my own opinions and thoughts, of course. I also let those be known on heated topics. But I at least try to be open minded enough to not force anyone to my thinking and there are always options and special circumstances.

    You are totally correct in saying that people should research, and make their own informed and educated decisions on how they approach treatment/recovery.

    I flagged your post, not Charles...

    I apologise if I offended you.... I just don't like feeling that I'm having something shoved down my throat. That is how I feel everytime I see that post copy and pasted the numerous times that it has.

    John

    Personally I don't think you should have flagged their post.
    We are all adults here and can make our own decisions. I have a teenage daughter and no she has not had the gardisil vaccine. I'm not against. I'm leaving it up to her, she is 18 now and can now decide for herself. Actually I was quite taken aback at the tone of this whole thread. The first post was too explicit for me, and I debated on whether flagging it as offensive myself. But as I said we are adults, and I do not control the content. It is almost as if you are shoving the pro gardisil argument down our throats. I understand you are for it. Some people may not be, and they are entitled to their opinion.
  • longtermsurvivor
    longtermsurvivor Member Posts: 1,842 Member
    tuffenuff said:

    he said something like "it's
    he said something like "it's not mandatory and there is no relation but you may want to consider..."

    other than that... i love him lol.

    it is good you have a sense of humor
    because frankly, this type of comment borders on completely inappropriate. Inappropriate in that 1) there is no evidence to link the two and 2) the general take on a comment like that is to be hurt and terrified. Just saying.

    Best to you.

    Pat
  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member

    Personally I don't think you should have flagged their post.
    We are all adults here and can make our own decisions. I have a teenage daughter and no she has not had the gardisil vaccine. I'm not against. I'm leaving it up to her, she is 18 now and can now decide for herself. Actually I was quite taken aback at the tone of this whole thread. The first post was too explicit for me, and I debated on whether flagging it as offensive myself. But as I said we are adults, and I do not control the content. It is almost as if you are shoving the pro gardisil argument down our throats. I understand you are for it. Some people may not be, and they are entitled to their opinion.

    No Problem ~
    I have no problem with your take on it....

    And I'm neither PRO or CON concerning the vaccine....., if you read my other posts explaining my feelings, you would have seen that.

    If I were absolutely for it, I would have gotten them for myself. But, I'm not against the idea... I just haven't really considered it.

    I'm not sure what lead you to believe that I am PRO and trying to shove it down anyone's throat. I have never said to get the vaccine, nor recommended them...nothing to stating anything close.

    That was my point specifically, she was and has been for several posts, including many under her other screen name against the vaccine...regardless of what she posted after the fact.

    If you have participated in the many of these threads, she has posted the same long reply on her thoughts that pretty much mirror those of Michele Bachmann.

    To me those types of comments are just a way of trying to scare someone into your way of thinking.

    I am all for someone researching and making an informed decision, their decision.

    I'm sorry if your take was that I was trying to pursuade someone to have the vaccine, I wasn't.

    It was merely to allow people to make their own choice without trying to scare them into making your choice.

    As for flagging the original topic, I suppose that is your decision. Although I do see it as part of lifestyle in many of the general population.

    JG
  • Jahnsart
    Jahnsart Member Posts: 41
    i couldnt care less
    Oral Sex is great, the genie is out of the bottle, and can't be put back in. What difference does it make how I got this cancer. I can't count how many times I have put myself in jeopardy, from the countless times driving high or drunk as a young man. The motorcycle racing, sky diving, scuba diving, flying, driving, running, walking, skiing and breathing. At 51 I have traveled to every continent except Antarctica, been on the tops of mountains and been through deserts, I have met many friends, eaten things I had no clue what they were, been exposed to trillions of different microbes, bacteria, and viruses and survived it all so far. Now people tell me about oral sex causing cancer and we should worry about it. Why? Is there definitive proof? Maybe I got it the first time I had Sex at 14 years old, now what could I have done about that. Frankly, I am not at all concerned about how or why, quality of life is my goal and I'll never give up my extracurricular activities...after all, the cats out of the bag.
  • soccerfreaks
    soccerfreaks Member Posts: 2,788 Member

    First of all, the
    First of all, the association may be just that, an association between HPV causing cervical cancer, and HPV causing oral cancer, rather than oral sex causing transmission of the virus. The road to hell is paved with good intent, and those that assume these two are causally related may or may not be right. At the moment this is interesting speculation, not proven fact.

    One thing that is for certain, if oral sex causes transmission of HPV fron genitals to throat, and if you have already had an HPV related throat cancer, the for you the genie is already out of the bottle, so to speak. If you personally chose to go down the road of testing for her to see if she is carrying the same HPV virus that you have had isolated from your tissue sample, then you have described the limits of your behavior set. No one really knows the answer to all of this, and anyone who claims they do, is merely trumpeting their ignorance. sorry I can't be of more help, but you won't find definitive answers.

    best to you


    pat

    Oral sex?
    I am for it.

    Take care,

    Joe
  • tuffenuff
    tuffenuff Member Posts: 277
    Jahnsart said:

    i couldnt care less
    Oral Sex is great, the genie is out of the bottle, and can't be put back in. What difference does it make how I got this cancer. I can't count how many times I have put myself in jeopardy, from the countless times driving high or drunk as a young man. The motorcycle racing, sky diving, scuba diving, flying, driving, running, walking, skiing and breathing. At 51 I have traveled to every continent except Antarctica, been on the tops of mountains and been through deserts, I have met many friends, eaten things I had no clue what they were, been exposed to trillions of different microbes, bacteria, and viruses and survived it all so far. Now people tell me about oral sex causing cancer and we should worry about it. Why? Is there definitive proof? Maybe I got it the first time I had Sex at 14 years old, now what could I have done about that. Frankly, I am not at all concerned about how or why, quality of life is my goal and I'll never give up my extracurricular activities...after all, the cats out of the bag.

    Every continent but
    Every continent but antarctica! Wow... I wish I had been that adventurous. It would make all of this a little easier to swallow, no pun intended.

    Being everyone here seems to be beyond legal age of consent, I think it would have been a travesty if the original post had been deleted. This is something we are discussing with our doctors so it should be fair game on the boards. There was nothing indelicate or pornographic in the way he phrased his post. And I'm sure at least 10 people were chomping at the bit to ask similar questions but are too embarrassed to do so. I'm sure the cervical cancer and anal cancer boards are overrun with this type of question and if they aren't, they should be. Oral sex should get the same attention.

    Birds don't do, bees don't don't do it but we do it. Or most of us anyway. Perfectly natural conversation and I commend the original poster for being brave enough to bring it up.
  • Crazymom
    Crazymom Member Posts: 339 Member
    Skiffin16 said:

    Gardasil Vaccine
    It is a vaccine that they have been offering to younger girls for a few years now..mainly three injections to help in preventing HPV derived Cervical Cancer.

    There have been a lot of studies and research if it is or would be benificial in boys as well.

    Just lately there are discussions going on about the possibility of recurrence reduction for individuals that have already had HPV derived H&N Cancer.

    OCF - HPV

    HPV Vaccine & Recurrences of Cervical Cancer


    Charles above (Irishgypsie) I believe has already had the injections, or looking into having them.

    He knows a lot more than I on the topic....

    JG

    Gardisil vaccine
    I am currently having the doctor give my 17 year old son the gardasil vaccine. However, are people who already have HPV cancer getting the Gardisil?

    Ann
  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member
    Crazymom said:

    Gardisil vaccine
    I am currently having the doctor give my 17 year old son the gardasil vaccine. However, are people who already have HPV cancer getting the Gardisil?

    Ann

    Irish Gypsie - Charles..
    I believe that Charles is and has some articles, studies and or links for reference concerning Gardasil post treatment of HPV derived cancer.

    JG