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  • j_rod
    j_rod Member Posts: 125

    A bucket of warm water with salt and ginger
    Hi,
    This is a traditional Chinese home remedy way if you like to give it a try. My sister sent me a book of cancer survival expience from Asia. I thouught to share with anyone who will be interested.

    Boil a pot of hot water with a piece of unpeeled ginger (about your palm size) with 30 g of salt. When it's boiling, turn down the heat and let it comtinues to boil for another 30 min.

    Pour the hot water into a tall bucket, and adjust the water temperature by reducing to 42 degr C. by adding in some cold water. Keep some hot water in the pot for later use.

    The water level in the bucket needs to cover your legs below the knee high. Put in a ping pong ball, when the water is warm hot( can not be too cold), start using the ping pong ball to message your feet. Step your feet on the ping pong ball. This will circulate your feet and also help you to get rid of the cold by purified your body system.

    Sit there for 30 min. If the temperature of the water turns cold, please add in more hot water from the pot you have just boiled. You should be sweating after that. Drink a cup of warm beverage follow that.

    Beside the cold, there are so many cancer patients living prove in Asia has benefited from this method. This method can be used after surgery or at anytime. The best result is used it everyday.

    Sweating is one way to get rid of our 'waste' or 'poison' ( Chinese called it) from our body system. The more you sweat, and if the sweat is smelling, that means your body is reacting to the purity system, which will be a good thing. Therefore the temperature of the water is very important to start with.

    Since I am a cancer patient, I have started this process, and I see the benefit, beside the sweat, it relaxes my muscle, and help me to get a better sleep at night too.

    Hope this helps if you're interested to try.

    Amish
    I live in a very rural area. Lots of farmland. Small towns of 200 to 900 people scattered randomly 7 miles (give or take 2 miles) apart. We have a population of Amish and related sects in the area, as well. One day I was at the grocery store and saw an acquaitence putting bottle after bottle of hydrogen peroxide (about 20 bottles) in his grocery cart. I commented on this to him, making a joke. He replied, the Amish take a bath in it; they use it to make sure they don't get sick or have a cold. I asked him if it works - he said he has never been sick since he started doing it. I didn't ask him how often he does it, or if he does it just when he feels a cold coming on, but it can't hurt. And you can buy peroxide fairly cheap at megastores, drugstores, or dollar stores. Good luck.
  • Texas_wedge
    Texas_wedge Member Posts: 2,798
    j_rod said:

    Amish
    I live in a very rural area. Lots of farmland. Small towns of 200 to 900 people scattered randomly 7 miles (give or take 2 miles) apart. We have a population of Amish and related sects in the area, as well. One day I was at the grocery store and saw an acquaitence putting bottle after bottle of hydrogen peroxide (about 20 bottles) in his grocery cart. I commented on this to him, making a joke. He replied, the Amish take a bath in it; they use it to make sure they don't get sick or have a cold. I asked him if it works - he said he has never been sick since he started doing it. I didn't ask him how often he does it, or if he does it just when he feels a cold coming on, but it can't hurt. And you can buy peroxide fairly cheap at megastores, drugstores, or dollar stores. Good luck.

    Peroxide
    Is everyone in the community blond(e)?
    I hope he told you what level of dilution they use!?
  • livealive
    livealive Member Posts: 127

    Peroxide
    Is everyone in the community blond(e)?
    I hope he told you what level of dilution they use!?

    Peroxide
    Sorry, can't resist once this guys has tempted with the question - 100% :-)
  • j_rod
    j_rod Member Posts: 125

    Peroxide
    Is everyone in the community blond(e)?
    I hope he told you what level of dilution they use!?

    grocery store off the shelf peroxide. Nothing fancy. They claim peroxide gets rid of toxins. The guy I talked to uses about 20 bottles in a bathtub of water and soaks in it. The bottles were probably 12 oz. bottles. ? Anyway, I've never tried soaking in it. I myself use ahcc (shiitake mushroom extract) - and considering I worked in an elementary school with 500 germ ridden children with various forms and stages of illness, I have avoided any illness since I began using it.
  • Texas_wedge
    Texas_wedge Member Posts: 2,798
    j_rod said:

    grocery store off the shelf peroxide. Nothing fancy. They claim peroxide gets rid of toxins. The guy I talked to uses about 20 bottles in a bathtub of water and soaks in it. The bottles were probably 12 oz. bottles. ? Anyway, I've never tried soaking in it. I myself use ahcc (shiitake mushroom extract) - and considering I worked in an elementary school with 500 germ ridden children with various forms and stages of illness, I have avoided any illness since I began using it.

    peroxide
    Wow! I wonder if the Amish community is shrinking!

    Interestingly, apart from its use as a bleach and a rocket fuel, H2O2 has an important function in the immune system. Not only that, but how about this (in Cancer Letters, July 2007):-

    Dual role of hydrogen peroxide in cancer: Possible relevance to cancer chemoprevention and therapy

    Miguel López-Lázaro Department of Pharmacology, Faculty of Pharmacy, University of Seville, Spain

    Abstract
    Accumulating evidence suggests that hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) plays an important role in cancer development. Experimental data have shown that cancer cells produce high amounts of H2O2. An increase in the cellular levels of H2O2 has been linked to several key alterations in cancer, including DNA alterations, cell proliferation, apoptosis resistance, metastasis, angiogenesis and hypoxia-inducible factor 1 (HIF-1) activation. It has also been observed that the malignant phenotype of cancer cells can be reversed just by decreasing the cellular levels of H2O2. On the other hand, there is evidence that H2O2 can induce apoptosis in cancer cells selectively and that the activity of several anticancer drugs commonly used in the clinic is mediated, at least in part, by H2O2. The present report discusses that the high levels of H2O2 commonly observed in cancer cells may be essential for cancer development; these high levels, however, seem almost incompatible with cell survival and may make cancer cells more susceptible to H2O2-induced cell death than normal cells. An understanding of this dual role of H2O2 in cancer might be exploited for the development of cancer chemopreventive and therapeutic strategies.
  • livealive
    livealive Member Posts: 127

    peroxide
    Wow! I wonder if the Amish community is shrinking!

    Interestingly, apart from its use as a bleach and a rocket fuel, H2O2 has an important function in the immune system. Not only that, but how about this (in Cancer Letters, July 2007):-

    Dual role of hydrogen peroxide in cancer: Possible relevance to cancer chemoprevention and therapy

    Miguel López-Lázaro Department of Pharmacology, Faculty of Pharmacy, University of Seville, Spain

    Abstract
    Accumulating evidence suggests that hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) plays an important role in cancer development. Experimental data have shown that cancer cells produce high amounts of H2O2. An increase in the cellular levels of H2O2 has been linked to several key alterations in cancer, including DNA alterations, cell proliferation, apoptosis resistance, metastasis, angiogenesis and hypoxia-inducible factor 1 (HIF-1) activation. It has also been observed that the malignant phenotype of cancer cells can be reversed just by decreasing the cellular levels of H2O2. On the other hand, there is evidence that H2O2 can induce apoptosis in cancer cells selectively and that the activity of several anticancer drugs commonly used in the clinic is mediated, at least in part, by H2O2. The present report discusses that the high levels of H2O2 commonly observed in cancer cells may be essential for cancer development; these high levels, however, seem almost incompatible with cell survival and may make cancer cells more susceptible to H2O2-induced cell death than normal cells. An understanding of this dual role of H2O2 in cancer might be exploited for the development of cancer chemopreventive and therapeutic strategies.

    H2o2 good or bad?
    So that entire paragraph was lost on me, do I shower with it or not ? Sorry, the simple minded are here too.
  • garym
    garym Member Posts: 1,647

    Aspirin and cancer
    Given the significance of the topic, I make no apology for quoting this article which appeared on Tuesday, also in the Uk's Guardian newspaper:

    "In some people, such as pregnant women at risk of high blood pressure, the benefits of taking aspirin are said to outweigh the risks. However, to date, cancer has not been part of this calculation.

    Rothwell said it was time to think again. "It's certainly time to add prevention of cancer into the analysis of the balance of risk and benefits of aspirin. So far, all the guidelines have just been based on the prevention of strokes and heart attacks.

    "This research really shows that the cancer benefit is as large, if not larger, than the benefit in terms of preventing heart attacks and strokes. It does change the equation quite drastically."

    A spokeswoman for the Department of Health said: "We are currently considering how to ensure the public gets the best advice on this issue, given that there are risks as well as potential benefits from taking aspirin."

    Rothwell suggested that the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence, which issues treatment guidelines for the NHS, should issue advice on the use of aspirin to combat cancer.

    "I think it would be helpful in the fullness of time if a body like Nice, for example, would come up with an independent recommendation on the basis of all the evidence that has been gathered," he said. "That would give people confidence."

    Nice has never been asked by the department to develop guidance on aspirin and cancer prevention.

    But the drug is mentioned in the latest Nice guidance on colorectal cancer. It says that "regular use of non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs), notably aspirin, seems to reduce the risk of colorectal cancer".

    Two American experts commenting in The Lancet pointed out some limitations to the research. Dr Andrew Chan and Dr Nancy Cook, from Harvard Medical School in Boston, said the analysis did not include findings from two large US trials that failed to show an anti-cancer benefit from taking aspirin every other day. Some analyses were also limited by the quality of available data.

    However the US experts concluded: "These caveats notwithstanding, Rothwell and colleagues show quite convincingly that aspirin seems to reduce cancer incidence and death."

    Aspirin and cancer...
    T,

    Aspirin was never about cancer for me, didn't even know there was a connection until reading it here. I started taking it a lifetime ago when I was, believe it or not, a decent athlete and I learned that aspirin worked as well or better for me for pain relief than many stronger drugs, I used to chew it (for quicker results) during practice and games in my college football years. The more I competed as I aged the more I relied on it and wound up with the tinnitus as a result. A serious knee injury at 35 reduced my participation in competitive sports to golf and my dependance on aspirin waned as well. I started taking it daily as a preventative measure about 10-15 years ago and have found that if I take just one before a 5-6 mile walk I don't hurt nearly as much afterwards. One wonders, while it did not prevent my RCC, did it perhaps **** its progress until dx and thus factor into saving my life, hmmmmm?

    Gary
  • Texas_wedge
    Texas_wedge Member Posts: 2,798
    livealive said:

    H2o2 good or bad?
    So that entire paragraph was lost on me, do I shower with it or not ? Sorry, the simple minded are here too.

    Peroxide - implications
    Raj, I'd say don't worry about it. If the report j_rod gave us about the Amish intrigues you, ask your doc about it.

    I just found it fascinating that a deceptively simple-seeming chemical, familiar from youth as a domestic item in brown bottles, kept safely out of my reach as a child, has such a crucial role throughout the human body in innumerable processes. I'm not regarding it as something i need to experiment with.

    The key implication of the paper I cited seems to me to lie in the final sentence of the abstract which suggests that it should be the focus of attention of researchers rather than patients. I'm considering that hydrogen peroxide needs to be included in the list of chemicals that should be investigated by universities and governments (as possible agents in the war against cancer) because there's not enough money to be made from them to entice Big Pharma into doing so. The list of things the pharmaceutical industry might not be keen to see competing for our bucks may include aspirin, peroxide, DCA (dichloroacetic acid) IP6 ..... and doubtless quite a few more chemicals that could be helping some of us but have not been pursued appropriately as yet.